Guest Twayne Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Crossposted to .general and .customize. Hi, Have a strange XP Pro SP2+ non-problem but an annoyance I'd like to ask about. In essence, Win Explorer is changing folder names. I know it'll do that with user accounts and depending on who's logged onto what account, but this is different and it recently caused a little more than simply annoyance in looking for a folder I not only knew existed, but even had the path for. It's hard to explain so I'll do it a few different ways<g>. If that fails, I can put it up on a web site for the asking to show what I mean. Emphasis added by me: In windows Exporer, the TITLE bar shows the file path a: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\*Documents*\NetObjects Fusion 11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip but ... If you look at the folder names in the left pane, it's actually in: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\*Shared Documents*\NetObjects Fusion 11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip Depending on whether you copy what you see in the Title Bar, or assemble the path mentally from the folders representation, you get two DIFFERENT paths to the same file! The reason it was an annoyance is because I was copy/pasting NOF's manual representation of the path, the first line above, and not finding my file. I don't use win explorer a lot, opting instead for PowerDesk instead, and interestingly enough, IT reads the path as: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion 11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip BUT.. in the left pane, instead of showing Shared Documents, shows instead just "Documents" as in the second line above. So if I mentally assemble the path from PD's panes, I get the same Title Path that windows explorer printed, BUT in windows explorer, that folde is names "Shared Documents" . Put another way, windows explorer, in the title bar and PowerDesk in both the title bar AND the folder list, show a folder named "Documents". In windows explorer however, in the left pane, the folder appears as "Shared Document", NOT as just "Documents". Or, stated another way: Windows title bar: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion 11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip PowerDesk title bar: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion 11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip Windows Folder List Pane: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\*Shared Documents*\NetObjects Fusion 11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip PowerDesk Folder List Pane: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion 11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip And yes, it is the EXACT same file each time; I've watched it be created. ---------------------------- One more piece to the story: I asked my sister to look at her machines. Her laptop shows "Shared Documents" . Hed desktop shows it as just "Documents" though. --------------------------- One more: History: -- I have moved My Documents to drive E:\. -- My main pagefile is on drive F:\. -- I've made no other changes to system files or folders that I'm aware of. -------------------------- From the Command prompt: -------------------------- C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion 11.0\Templates>dir Volume in drive C is C: Local Disk Volume Serial Number is 0454-9A41 Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\*Documents*\NetObjects Fusion 11.0\Templates 09/14/2008 11:14 AM <DIR> . 09/14/2008 11:14 AM <DIR> .. 09/14/2008 11:14 AM 0 010011 09/04/2008 09:11 PM <DIR> AutoSites 09/04/2008 09:11 PM <DIR> Forms 09/04/2008 09:11 PM <DIR> Pages 09/14/2008 10:52 AM 13,996,683 SPCA.zip 2 File(s) 13,996,683 bytes 5 Dir(s) 26,128,973,824 bytes free C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion 11.0\Templates> ------------------------ Sooo, where does "Shared Documents" come from then? Is it a real folder or another of XP's aberrations? TIA, Twayne
Guest Mantas Mikulėnas Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: Shared Document folder vs Document folder Twayne wrote: > Sooo, where does "Shared Documents" come from then? Is it a real > folder or another of XP's aberrations? The <C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents> folder has the System attribute set, so Explorer reads Desktop.ini inside the folder. -- Mantas Mikulėnas <email = base64.decode("Z3Jhd2l0eUBjbHVlbmV0Lm9yZyA=")> PGP/GPG: 0xCA07F3A91C9F7C03 <http://rootshell.be/~grawity/> ASCII ribbon - against HTML email <http://www.asciiribbon.org>
Guest Twayne Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: Shared Document folder vs Document folder > Twayne wrote: >> Sooo, where does "Shared Documents" come from then? Is it a real >> folder or another of XP's aberrations? > > The <C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents> folder has the > System attribute set, so Explorer reads Desktop.ini inside the folder. Huh! I never gave the *.ini's even a passing thought! Out of sight, out of mind, I guess. In my case at least. It was really starting to annoy me though. Thanks much! Twayne
Guest Anteaus Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: Shared Document folder vs Document folder Likewise I tend to avoid use of Explorer for the same reason - you can never trust what you see in it,. I use Altap Salamander, though there are several other good filemanagers out there. What I cannot understand is why Microsoft won't see reason and stop building all this silliness into Explorer. "Twayne" wrote: > > Twayne wrote: > >> Sooo, where does "Shared Documents" come from then? Is it a real > >> folder or another of XP's aberrations? > > > > The <C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents> folder has the > > System attribute set, so Explorer reads Desktop.ini inside the folder. > > Huh! I never gave the *.ini's even a passing thought! Out of sight, > out of mind, I guess. In my case at least. It was really starting to > annoy me though. > > Thanks much! > > Twayne > > >
Guest Twayne Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Re: Shared Document folder vs Document folder > Likewise I tend to avoid use of Explorer for the same reason - you > can never trust what you see in it,. I use Altap Salamander, though > there are several other good filemanagers out there. What I cannot > understand is why Microsoft won't see reason and stop building all > this silliness into Explorer. Agreed. I sort of see why they do it, esp in the case of so-called system files but I object to it also. It doesn't make sense to be calling apples oranges though, no matter how I look at it. I suspsect in way too many instance the code author was also the technical writer, and whoever had to vet those had no idea what it was about anyway, I normally use PowerDesk Pro which is very functional and useful; pretty well integrated into several things including the context menues. Have heard of Salamander but I'm quite happy with PD, but thanks. I have to keep using Explorer now and then because I have to be able to see things as others are going to see them; you can't depend on them having an alternate file manager. Evel looked at what happens if you have say three or four accounts and check around for My Documents? I STILL have a My Documents that shows alphabetically where TwaynesDocuments would be! So first I think it's missing a lot of times, and then, "Oh! It's down there!" in Explorer. PD shows it as it's actual name, in the right alphabetic position, but not Explorer<g>. It can get crazy. What really bugged me is I knew about desktop.ini but it never occurred to me inthis last instance. So much to remember sometimes<g>. Cheers, > > > "Twayne" wrote: > >>> Twayne wrote: >>>> Sooo, where does "Shared Documents" come from then? Is it a real >>>> folder or another of XP's aberrations? >>> >>> The <C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents> folder has the >>> System attribute set, so Explorer reads Desktop.ini inside the >>> folder. >> >> Huh! I never gave the *.ini's even a passing thought! Out of sight, >> out of mind, I guess. In my case at least. It was really starting >> to annoy me though. >> >> Thanks much! >> >> Twayne
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