Guest daviddschool Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 I have done the research to try and fix the missing hal.dll (google and have seen a lot of fixes). Here is the issue : when I boot, it stops before XP comes up and gives me the error that the hal.dll is corrupt or missing, please reboot. I have tried to reboot several times. 1) I put the hard drive on another computer, but it wouldn't read it properly (using an USB 2.0 external bay) 2) I have tried the windows recovery CD (booted with the XP CD) and did the bootcfg /rebuild but I get an error and it won't let me - and tells me I must do a chkdsk. So I am trying that, but it is taking forever (on an 80 gig drive). I am hoping this fixes the issue ,but I can't understand why it wasn't recognized on the other computer (I have tried administrative tools, and it sees it, but it won't let me read it from windows explorer. When trying to look at it from another computer (external drive), it tells me something about "error on NPAGE operation?" I have done a backup at the beginning of September, but that doesn't help me with all of the work I did today on it (which was 8 hours or so). I am hoping I don't have to reformat or I can at least get the files to another computer before I do. Does anyone know a way of booting to the DOS prompt so I can see the directory at least? Safemode does not work. Last BEST known config. does not work either.
Guest daviddschool Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! > So I am trying that, but it is taking forever (on an 80 gig drive). I > am hoping this fixes the issue Tried to fix the issue, tells me at 32% that there are one or more irrecoverable errors on the drive. I hope there is a way around this problem. That really is going to put me back...
Guest daviddschool Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! I have the UNMOUNTABLE BOOT VOLUME error when I go into window recovery console. This is getting worse and worse. Is there a fix to that without reformating?
Guest sandy58 Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! On Sep 14, 11:07 pm, daviddschool <daviddsch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So I am trying that, but it is taking forever (on an 80 gig drive). I > > am hoping this fixes the issue > > Tried to fix the issue, tells me at 32% that there are one or more > irrecoverable errors on the drive. I hope there is a way around this > problem. That really is going to put me back... Boot with a Windows 98 Start Up disk Insert the Windows 98 CD into the CD reader Run smartdrv.exe from the Win98 directory on the windows 98 CD (file caching) Type cd.. to back up to the root directory Insert Windows XP CD into the CD reader Copy the i386 folder to C:\ Go into C:\i386 folder on C: and type winnt.exe to launch the setup from the hard drive. PS. http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?hal Download hal.dll here. Good luck, daviddschool
Guest daviddschool Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! I don't have a floppy drive connection on the motherboard, so no floppy. What is the workaround for this? On Sep 14, 6:24 pm, sandy58 <alecki...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Sep 14, 11:07 pm, daviddschool <daviddsch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > So I am trying that, but it is taking forever (on an 80 gig drive). I > > > am hoping this fixes the issue > > > Tried to fix the issue, tells me at 32% that there are one or more > > irrecoverable errors on the drive. I hope there is a way around this > > problem. That really is going to put me back... > > Boot with a Windows 98 Start Up disk > Insert the Windows 98 CD into the CD reader > Run smartdrv.exe from the Win98 directory on the windows 98 CD (file > caching) > Type cd.. to back up to the root directory > Insert Windows XP CD into the CD reader > Copy the i386 folder to C:\ > Go into C:\i386 folder on C: and type winnt.exe to launch the setup > from the hard drive. > PS.http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?hal > Download hal.dll here. > Good luck, daviddschool
Guest daviddschool Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! Ok, I found the place where it goes on the motherboard for the A: drive, trying what you said now. On Sep 14, 6:33 pm, daviddschool <daviddsch...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't have a floppy drive connection on the motherboard, so no > floppy. What is the workaround for this?
Guest daviddschool Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! Ok, it is telling me "Cannot make directory entry 85S12gg.fo" Is that a HARDDRIVE space issue? Why wouldn't that work? I have tried 2 XP cd and the same thing happens. On Sep 14, 6:39 pm, daviddschool <daviddsch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, I found the place where it goes on the motherboard for the A: > drive, trying what you said now. > > On Sep 14, 6:33 pm, daviddschool <daviddsch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I don't have a floppy drive connection on the motherboard, so no > > floppy. What is the workaround for this?
Guest daviddschool Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! I am now trying the REPAIR option with the XP cd. I think I can repair the installation, but I am stuck at the PARTITION page. I don't want to overwrite the partition, I just want to get to the repair screen - this quote I got from the internet when searching for an answer: "Boot to the install CD. Do NOT use the initial repair option of the first screen, but go to the install option (ONLY on this first screen). If you have to press [F8] to accept the give-your-rights-away screen, you are doing the right thing. It will look for previous installations (and tell you it is doing so as well). Choose/press "R" to re[ait the installation. "
Guest daviddschool Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! Ok, I guess I am at the end here : I have tried a repair ® using the windows and then tried to copy the ntldr and ntdetect to the C drive and it said "failed". When I tried to get a directory of the C drive, it says : "an error occured during directory enumeration."
Guest daviddschool Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! Lastly before I wait for a response : chkdsk does not work. It tells me : use Scandisk instead. I don't know what it does this and doesn't even attempt to use the chkdsk on the drive.
Guest John Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! On 2008-09-14, daviddschool <daviddschool@gmail.com> wrote: > I have the UNMOUNTABLE BOOT VOLUME error when I go into window > recovery console. This is getting worse and worse. Is there a fix to > that without reformating? > I am far from an expert but here is what I would do (note: I am not going to recommend converting to Linux) a) See if you can beg, borrow or steal a USB drive (not a key) and plug it in. Better yet, buy one.. you can get 250GB external for less than 100$ b) find a Linux (ie. knoppix) live CD and boot from it. c) copy any of your data onto the USB drive so that its saved. d) reformat the HD and reload XP. by saving your data, you shouldn't lose anything. And when you get back up and running, set up some sort of backup schedule. I'm not sure what else I'd do if I were you aside from taking the box into a shop. Good Luck! -- Do you twitter? http://twitter.com Do you want to be a cranky geek? http://www.crankygeeks.com/ Improving the usenet experience: http://improve-usenet.org/ (I score GG down to 8999) RLU #451587 http://counter.li.org/estimates.php
Guest daviddschool Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! I tried using Linux from Knoppix - and it runs but drags at the point where it says : PROBING LOADING AGP MODULES. It does not go anywhere from there...so I wait. > > I am far from an expert but here is what I would do (note: I am not > going to recommend converting to Linux) > a) See if you can beg, borrow or steal a USB drive (not a key) and plug > it in. Better yet, buy one.. you can get 250GB external for less than > 100$ > b) find a Linux (ie. knoppix) live CD and boot from it. > c) copy any of your data onto the USB drive so that its saved. > d) reformat the HD and reload XP. > > by saving your data, you shouldn't lose anything. > And when you get back up and running, set up some sort of backup > schedule. > > I'm not sure what else I'd do if I were you aside from taking the box > into a shop. > > Good Luck! >
Guest Telstar Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! "daviddschool" <daviddschool@gmail.com> wrote in message news:b51cc942-7a62-4ad0-bd3e-bb0605201427@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >I tried using Linux from Knoppix - and it runs but drags at the point > where it says : This is why you buy, the now very cheap, Acronis Drive Image 11 Home. It creates a functioning Linux boot disc and browser and runs from it. It works brilliantly in these situations.
Guest Telstar Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! "daviddschool" <daviddschool@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e0ca01d9-7c8f-4e30-b1c7-7f9e4786fd75@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > Lastly before I wait for a response : > > chkdsk does not work. It tells me : use Scandisk instead. I don't > know what it does this and doesn't even attempt to use the chkdsk on > the drive. > Run Scandisk /f
Guest sgopus Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! Since the directory info is hosed on the HD, it's not an issue with a missing HAL, it's only telling you that as the HD its self is hosed, ie partition info is missing on the HD, it's dead, I'm afraid you will have to get a new hd, sorry to say, but a good backup program, including cloning your HD would have helped greatly. I not only do backups of data, but also external disk cloning of my primary OS HD. I tell ya, external drives are very affordable these days. "daviddschool" wrote: > Lastly before I wait for a response : > > chkdsk does not work. It tells me : use Scandisk instead. I don't > know what it does this and doesn't even attempt to use the chkdsk on > the drive. > >
Guest daviddschool Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! I made a backup at the beginning of Sept, it is just what I did today that I wanted - 8 hours down the drain. I am trying a few recovery programs, but nothing seems to be working. I was going to try FIXBOOT or the like, but I don't know if this will destroy everything on the drive? On Sep 14, 7:58 pm, sgopus <sgo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Since the directory info is hosed on the HD, it's not an issue with a missing > HAL, it's only telling you that as the HD its self is hosed, ie partition > info is missing on the HD, it's dead, I'm afraid you will have to get a new > hd, sorry to say, but a good backup program, including cloning your HD would > have helped greatly. > > I not only do backups of data, but also external disk cloning of my primary > OS HD. > I tell ya, external drives are very affordable these days. > > "daviddschool" wrote: > > Lastly before I wait for a response : > > > chkdsk does not work. It tells me : use Scandisk instead. I don't > > know what it does this and doesn't even attempt to use the chkdsk on > > the drive.
Guest daviddschool Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! When I plug it in, it tries the AUTOPLAY, so it is recognizing it, and it even lists it in the windows explorer (F drive), but when I try to access it, it says, no dice, and gives the error. You are probably right that it is gone, but I have to think there is a way of recovering some of the info on it before I go and reformat... > > Since the directory info is hosed on the HD, it's not an issue with a missing > > HAL, it's only telling you that as the HD its self is hosed, ie partition > > info is missing on the HD, it's dead, I'm afraid you will have to get a new > > hd, sorry to say, but a good backup program, including cloning your HD would > > have helped greatly. > > > I not only do backups of data, but also external disk cloning of my primary > > OS HD. > > I tell ya, external drives are very affordable these days. > > > "daviddschool" wrote: > > > Lastly before I wait for a response : > > > > chkdsk does not work. It tells me : use Scandisk instead. I don't > > > know what it does this and doesn't even attempt to use the chkdsk on > > > the drive.
Guest daviddschool Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! I have a feeling it is the partition that is acting up because when I ran a diagnostic program, it said there is a partition error. Now, I guess I need to find a partition program to fix it and hopefully something that won't make me lose all the data...
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! "sandy58" <aleckie68@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:0debdeb6-b269-42a0-ac9c-bae90ced6cc6@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com... On Sep 14, 11:07 pm, daviddschool <daviddsch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So I am trying that, but it is taking forever (on an 80 gig drive). I > > am hoping this fixes the issue > > Tried to fix the issue, tells me at 32% that there are one or more > irrecoverable errors on the drive. I hope there is a way around this > problem. That really is going to put me back... Boot with a Windows 98 Start Up disk Insert the Windows 98 CD into the CD reader Run smartdrv.exe from the Win98 directory on the windows 98 CD (file caching) Type cd.. to back up to the root directory Insert Windows XP CD into the CD reader Copy the i386 folder to C:\ Go into C:\i386 folder on C: and type winnt.exe to launch the setup from the hard drive. PS. http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?hal Download hal.dll here. Good luck, daviddschool ================== it's extremely likely that this procedure will not work, because Win9x boot disks cannot read NTFS volumes. If the target hard disk is over 40 gig, it is almost certain to be NTFS. HTH -pk
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! "daviddschool" <daviddschool@gmail.com> wrote in message news:34cf6b39-b575-4992-8781-47db0c541af2@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >I made a backup at the beginning of Sept, it is just what I did today > that I wanted - 8 hours down the drain. > I am trying a few recovery programs, but nothing seems to be working. > I was going to try FIXBOOT or the like, but I don't know if this will > destroy everything on the drive? You should *not bother*. Your drive is failing, and spending more time running it will only make the problem worse, not to mention just waste your time. Remove the existing hard disk. Set it aside. Get a new drive and do a new install to it. Once XP is installed and running and all appropriate drivetrs are installed, attach the old disk as a slave or using a USB2 drive case and attempt to copy the data to a folder on the new hard disk. HTH -pk > > On Sep 14, 7:58 pm, sgopus <sgo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> Since the directory info is hosed on the HD, it's not an issue with a >> missing >> HAL, it's only telling you that as the HD its self is hosed, ie partition >> info is missing on the HD, it's dead, I'm afraid you will have to get a >> new >> hd, sorry to say, but a good backup program, including cloning your HD >> would >> have helped greatly. >> >> I not only do backups of data, but also external disk cloning of my >> primary >> OS HD. >> I tell ya, external drives are very affordable these days. >> >> "daviddschool" wrote: >> > Lastly before I wait for a response : >> >> > chkdsk does not work. It tells me : use Scandisk instead. I don't >> > know what it does this and doesn't even attempt to use the chkdsk on >> > the drive. >
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! "daviddschool" <daviddschool@gmail.com> wrote in message news:71cd4344-db98-4e60-b0bc-773e2550e634@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > When I plug it in, it tries the AUTOPLAY, so it is recognizing it, and > it even lists it in the windows explorer (F drive), but when I try to > access it, it says, no dice, and gives the error. > You are probably right that it is gone, but I have to think there is a > way of recovering some of the info on it before I go and reformat... If the drive is failing, reformatting won't help. It's like putting new carpet on a rotten floor. The structure is compromised and needs to be replaced, refinishing it won't help you; it will fail again, and soon. Replace the drive, new drives are cheap; where I am, 500 gig drives are around CDN$70. Once the new drive is properly installed with the OS and drives, simply attach the old drive and copy your data over. HTH -pk > >> > Since the directory info is hosed on the HD, it's not an issue with a >> > missing >> > HAL, it's only telling you that as the HD its self is hosed, ie >> > partition >> > info is missing on the HD, it's dead, I'm afraid you will have to get a >> > new >> > hd, sorry to say, but a good backup program, including cloning your HD >> > would >> > have helped greatly. >> >> > I not only do backups of data, but also external disk cloning of my >> > primary >> > OS HD. >> > I tell ya, external drives are very affordable these days. >> >> > "daviddschool" wrote: >> > > Lastly before I wait for a response : >> >> > > chkdsk does not work. It tells me : use Scandisk instead. I don't >> > > know what it does this and doesn't even attempt to use the chkdsk on >> > > the drive. >
Guest Mick Murphy Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! Go to the Hard Drive Manufacturer's site, and download their diagnostic software to check the state of your HD, and see if it is shafted or not. -- Mick Murphy - Qld (Sunshine State) - Australia "daviddschool" wrote: > I have a feeling it is the partition that is acting up because when I > ran a diagnostic program, it said there is a partition error. Now, I > guess I need to find a partition program to fix it and hopefully > something that won't make me lose all the data... > >
Guest daviddschool Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! Ok, I have gone and got the diagnostic tool and it says that is cannot read the drive. I was going to trash it but instead tried some recovery software and engineer friend of mine had and it works. I managed to see the entire drive, although taking all of the info from it will take weeks, I am instead going to just pick the most recent files and important ones and forgo the rest. I think the drive is still good and I might use it for a secondary backup storage, but not as my main drive. I will have to repartition and reformat this thing though. Interestingly, I am getting the 'tick tick' directional signal noise as the recovery software works and it did take a long time (3 hours), but it did find the entire drive. I am only hoping my backup software works (because I haven't tried to recover since I have been backing up my machine). Thanks for all the help. I am still going to try the SCANDISK /f , which I haven't tried because CHKDSK did not seem to work (and that was really throwing me off). On Sep 15, 2:28 am, Mick Murphy <MickMur...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Go to the Hard Drive Manufacturer's site, and download their diagnostic > software to check the state of your HD, and see if it is shafted or not. > -- > Mick Murphy - Qld (Sunshine State) - Australia
Guest Plato Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! =?Utf-8?B?TWljayBNdXJwaHk=?= wrote: > http://www.bootdisk.com/housecall/0036.htm#2
Guest daviddschool Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Re: missing HAL.DLL - but that's not it - more issues pls help! Plato, As I said, I can't get to the files to change them. On the recovery software is letting me look at the files - so I can't change the boot.ini On Sep 16, 1:45 am, Plato <|@|.|> wrote: > =?Utf-8?B?TWljayBNdXJwaHk=?= wrote: > > http://www.bootdisk.com/housecall/0036.htm#2
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