Is there a way to detect published appplications?

[Guest John]

Hi all,

 

I am evaluating windows 2008 TS now. with Widows 2008 TS, clients need to

install applications through the packaged share (such as rdp or msi) or

through software group policy. Then the remote programs folder is shown in

the program folder. Is there a way which allow clients to get published

applications by just configuring the TS server settings or farm settings and

then published applications will show in the remote programs folder (just as

Citrix farm does, the published aplications shows in the program folder after

you configure the farm settings and users do not need to install packages

etc.)

 

Is this pssible?

[Guest Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Is there a way to detect published appplications?

 

From everything I know the answer is no.

 

--

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AB4F612E-A176-49CF-9521-5853B47D1340@microsoft.com...

> Hi all,

>

> I am evaluating windows 2008 TS now. with Widows 2008 TS, clients need to

> install applications through the packaged share (such as rdp or msi) or

> through software group policy. Then the remote programs folder is shown

> in

> the program folder. Is there a way which allow clients to get published

> applications by just configuring the TS server settings or farm settings

> and

> then published applications will show in the remote programs folder (just

> as

> Citrix farm does, the published aplications shows in the program folder

> after

> you configure the farm settings and users do not need to install packages

> etc.)

>

> Is this pssible?

>

>

[Guest John]

Re: Is there a way to detect published appplications?

 

Jeff,

 

Thank you for your reply.

So, With windows 2008 TS, we can not publish the apps to certain users as

Citrix.

With windows 2008 TS, users have to install apps locally. Right?

 

Can you name some functions that match with Citrix?

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> From everything I know the answer is no.

>

> --

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>

> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:AB4F612E-A176-49CF-9521-5853B47D1340@microsoft.com...

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I am evaluating windows 2008 TS now. with Widows 2008 TS, clients need to

> > install applications through the packaged share (such as rdp or msi) or

> > through software group policy. Then the remote programs folder is shown

> > in

> > the program folder. Is there a way which allow clients to get published

> > applications by just configuring the TS server settings or farm settings

> > and

> > then published applications will show in the remote programs folder (just

> > as

> > Citrix farm does, the published aplications shows in the program folder

> > after

> > you configure the farm settings and users do not need to install packages

> > etc.)

> >

> > Is this pssible?

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Is there a way to detect published appplications?

 

You can publish to certain users using Group Policy as you mentioned. You

cannot publish to certain users going through TSGateway. The users are NOT

installing the apps locally. They are, at its simplest, only copying the

rdp file down and possible registry entries for certain features.

 

As for functions, I'm not sure what your looking for. There aren't many

that match waht Citrix does which is where Citrix's value add comes from.

Things like remote app functionality, TSgateway, session based load

balancing, session diconnect/reconnect are a few things that MS does that

Citrix does as well.

 

--

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:550E1972-1A36-4A82-9EE8-967C9305995C@microsoft.com...

> Jeff,

>

> Thank you for your reply.

> So, With windows 2008 TS, we can not publish the apps to certain users as

> Citrix.

> With windows 2008 TS, users have to install apps locally. Right?

>

> Can you name some functions that match with Citrix?

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>

>> From everything I know the answer is no.

>>

>> --

>> Jeff Pitsch

>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>>

>> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:AB4F612E-A176-49CF-9521-5853B47D1340@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi all,

>> >

>> > I am evaluating windows 2008 TS now. with Widows 2008 TS, clients need

>> > to

>> > install applications through the packaged share (such as rdp or msi) or

>> > through software group policy. Then the remote programs folder is

>> > shown

>> > in

>> > the program folder. Is there a way which allow clients to get

>> > published

>> > applications by just configuring the TS server settings or farm

>> > settings

>> > and

>> > then published applications will show in the remote programs folder

>> > (just

>> > as

>> > Citrix farm does, the published aplications shows in the program folder

>> > after

>> > you configure the farm settings and users do not need to install

>> > packages

>> > etc.)

>> >

>> > Is this pssible?

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

[Guest John]

Re: Is there a way to detect published appplications?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Additional help:

Can you publish the apps to the farm? In Citrix, you can publish the apps

to several availabe servers. With Windows 2008 TS, from my test, I can only

publish apps to the local TS. If I have one more TS, I want to load-balanced

apps, how do I publish them with windows 2008?

 

thank you.

 

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> You can publish to certain users using Group Policy as you mentioned. You

> cannot publish to certain users going through TSGateway. The users are NOT

> installing the apps locally. They are, at its simplest, only copying the

> rdp file down and possible registry entries for certain features.

>

> As for functions, I'm not sure what your looking for. There aren't many

> that match waht Citrix does which is where Citrix's value add comes from.

> Things like remote app functionality, TSgateway, session based load

> balancing, session diconnect/reconnect are a few things that MS does that

> Citrix does as well.

>

> --

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>

> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:550E1972-1A36-4A82-9EE8-967C9305995C@microsoft.com...

> > Jeff,

> >

> > Thank you for your reply.

> > So, With windows 2008 TS, we can not publish the apps to certain users as

> > Citrix.

> > With windows 2008 TS, users have to install apps locally. Right?

> >

> > Can you name some functions that match with Citrix?

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> > "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> >

> >> From everything I know the answer is no.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Jeff Pitsch

> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

> >>

> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:AB4F612E-A176-49CF-9521-5853B47D1340@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi all,

> >> >

> >> > I am evaluating windows 2008 TS now. with Widows 2008 TS, clients need

> >> > to

> >> > install applications through the packaged share (such as rdp or msi) or

> >> > through software group policy. Then the remote programs folder is

> >> > shown

> >> > in

> >> > the program folder. Is there a way which allow clients to get

> >> > published

> >> > applications by just configuring the TS server settings or farm

> >> > settings

> >> > and

> >> > then published applications will show in the remote programs folder

> >> > (just

> >> > as

> >> > Citrix farm does, the published aplications shows in the program folder

> >> > after

> >> > you configure the farm settings and users do not need to install

> >> > packages

> >> > etc.)

> >> >

> >> > Is this pssible?

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Is there a way to detect published appplications?

 

You would need the session broker and session based load balancing to do

this.

 

--

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C6166ABF-9FA5-4FB0-ACB3-DDB63C7CE952@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for your help.

>

> Additional help:

> Can you publish the apps to the farm? In Citrix, you can publish the apps

> to several availabe servers. With Windows 2008 TS, from my test, I can

> only

> publish apps to the local TS. If I have one more TS, I want to

> load-balanced

> apps, how do I publish them with windows 2008?

>

> thank you.

>

> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>

>> You can publish to certain users using Group Policy as you mentioned.

>> You

>> cannot publish to certain users going through TSGateway. The users are

>> NOT

>> installing the apps locally. They are, at its simplest, only copying the

>> rdp file down and possible registry entries for certain features.

>>

>> As for functions, I'm not sure what your looking for. There aren't many

>> that match waht Citrix does which is where Citrix's value add comes from.

>> Things like remote app functionality, TSgateway, session based load

>> balancing, session diconnect/reconnect are a few things that MS does that

>> Citrix does as well.

>>

>> --

>> Jeff Pitsch

>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>>

>> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:550E1972-1A36-4A82-9EE8-967C9305995C@microsoft.com...

>> > Jeff,

>> >

>> > Thank you for your reply.

>> > So, With windows 2008 TS, we can not publish the apps to certain users

>> > as

>> > Citrix.

>> > With windows 2008 TS, users have to install apps locally. Right?

>> >

>> > Can you name some functions that match with Citrix?

>> >

>> > Thank you.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>> >

>> >> From everything I know the answer is no.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Jeff Pitsch

>> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>> >>

>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:AB4F612E-A176-49CF-9521-5853B47D1340@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Hi all,

>> >> >

>> >> > I am evaluating windows 2008 TS now. with Widows 2008 TS, clients

>> >> > need

>> >> > to

>> >> > install applications through the packaged share (such as rdp or msi)

>> >> > or

>> >> > through software group policy. Then the remote programs folder is

>> >> > shown

>> >> > in

>> >> > the program folder. Is there a way which allow clients to get

>> >> > published

>> >> > applications by just configuring the TS server settings or farm

>> >> > settings

>> >> > and

>> >> > then published applications will show in the remote programs folder

>> >> > (just

>> >> > as

>> >> > Citrix farm does, the published aplications shows in the program

>> >> > folder

>> >> > after

>> >> > you configure the farm settings and users do not need to install

>> >> > packages

>> >> > etc.)

>> >> >

>> >> > Is this pssible?

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest John]

Re: Is there a way to detect published appplications?

 

Thank you for your knowledge and help.

 

In my test envir., I set up the session broker load balacing using DNS round

robin. It seems that I could not put the farm name in the terminal server

name of TS web Access's Configuration tab. I can only put the real terminal

server name there.

 

What am I missing?

 

Thank you.

 

 

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> You would need the session broker and session based load balancing to do

> this.

>

> --

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>

> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C6166ABF-9FA5-4FB0-ACB3-DDB63C7CE952@microsoft.com...

> > Thanks for your help.

> >

> > Additional help:

> > Can you publish the apps to the farm? In Citrix, you can publish the apps

> > to several availabe servers. With Windows 2008 TS, from my test, I can

> > only

> > publish apps to the local TS. If I have one more TS, I want to

> > load-balanced

> > apps, how do I publish them with windows 2008?

> >

> > thank you.

> >

> > "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> >

> >> You can publish to certain users using Group Policy as you mentioned.

> >> You

> >> cannot publish to certain users going through TSGateway. The users are

> >> NOT

> >> installing the apps locally. They are, at its simplest, only copying the

> >> rdp file down and possible registry entries for certain features.

> >>

> >> As for functions, I'm not sure what your looking for. There aren't many

> >> that match waht Citrix does which is where Citrix's value add comes from.

> >> Things like remote app functionality, TSgateway, session based load

> >> balancing, session diconnect/reconnect are a few things that MS does that

> >> Citrix does as well.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Jeff Pitsch

> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

> >>

> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:550E1972-1A36-4A82-9EE8-967C9305995C@microsoft.com...

> >> > Jeff,

> >> >

> >> > Thank you for your reply.

> >> > So, With windows 2008 TS, we can not publish the apps to certain users

> >> > as

> >> > Citrix.

> >> > With windows 2008 TS, users have to install apps locally. Right?

> >> >

> >> > Can you name some functions that match with Citrix?

> >> >

> >> > Thank you.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> From everything I know the answer is no.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Jeff Pitsch

> >> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

> >> >>

> >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:AB4F612E-A176-49CF-9521-5853B47D1340@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > Hi all,

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I am evaluating windows 2008 TS now. with Widows 2008 TS, clients

> >> >> > need

> >> >> > to

> >> >> > install applications through the packaged share (such as rdp or msi)

> >> >> > or

> >> >> > through software group policy. Then the remote programs folder is

> >> >> > shown

> >> >> > in

> >> >> > the program folder. Is there a way which allow clients to get

> >> >> > published

> >> >> > applications by just configuring the TS server settings or farm

> >> >> > settings

> >> >> > and

> >> >> > then published applications will show in the remote programs folder

> >> >> > (just

> >> >> > as

> >> >> > Citrix farm does, the published aplications shows in the program

> >> >> > folder

> >> >> > after

> >> >> > you configure the farm settings and users do not need to install

> >> >> > packages

> >> >> > etc.)

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Is this pssible?

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Is there a way to detect published appplications?

 

You point at one server and that server talks to the session broker who then

assigns the user to a server. It's similar to what Citrix does with ZDC's

just not nearly as advanced. I'm not 100% sure this will work with

remoteapps but I don't see why it wouldn't.

 

--

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7BBF0CA8-97A0-4D0D-A8FA-58294B505C6C@microsoft.com...

> Thank you for your knowledge and help.

>

> In my test envir., I set up the session broker load balacing using DNS

> round

> robin. It seems that I could not put the farm name in the terminal server

> name of TS web Access's Configuration tab. I can only put the real

> terminal

> server name there.

>

> What am I missing?

>

> Thank you.

>

>

> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>

>> You would need the session broker and session based load balancing to do

>> this.

>>

>> --

>> Jeff Pitsch

>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>>

>> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C6166ABF-9FA5-4FB0-ACB3-DDB63C7CE952@microsoft.com...

>> > Thanks for your help.

>> >

>> > Additional help:

>> > Can you publish the apps to the farm? In Citrix, you can publish the

>> > apps

>> > to several availabe servers. With Windows 2008 TS, from my test, I

>> > can

>> > only

>> > publish apps to the local TS. If I have one more TS, I want to

>> > load-balanced

>> > apps, how do I publish them with windows 2008?

>> >

>> > thank you.

>> >

>> > "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>> >

>> >> You can publish to certain users using Group Policy as you mentioned.

>> >> You

>> >> cannot publish to certain users going through TSGateway. The users

>> >> are

>> >> NOT

>> >> installing the apps locally. They are, at its simplest, only copying

>> >> the

>> >> rdp file down and possible registry entries for certain features.

>> >>

>> >> As for functions, I'm not sure what your looking for. There aren't

>> >> many

>> >> that match waht Citrix does which is where Citrix's value add comes

>> >> from.

>> >> Things like remote app functionality, TSgateway, session based load

>> >> balancing, session diconnect/reconnect are a few things that MS does

>> >> that

>> >> Citrix does as well.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Jeff Pitsch

>> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>> >>

>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:550E1972-1A36-4A82-9EE8-967C9305995C@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Jeff,

>> >> >

>> >> > Thank you for your reply.

>> >> > So, With windows 2008 TS, we can not publish the apps to certain

>> >> > users

>> >> > as

>> >> > Citrix.

>> >> > With windows 2008 TS, users have to install apps locally. Right?

>> >> >

>> >> > Can you name some functions that match with Citrix?

>> >> >

>> >> > Thank you.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> From everything I know the answer is no.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Jeff Pitsch

>> >> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:AB4F612E-A176-49CF-9521-5853B47D1340@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > Hi all,

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I am evaluating windows 2008 TS now. with Widows 2008 TS,

>> >> >> > clients

>> >> >> > need

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > install applications through the packaged share (such as rdp or

>> >> >> > msi)

>> >> >> > or

>> >> >> > through software group policy. Then the remote programs folder

>> >> >> > is

>> >> >> > shown

>> >> >> > in

>> >> >> > the program folder. Is there a way which allow clients to get

>> >> >> > published

>> >> >> > applications by just configuring the TS server settings or farm

>> >> >> > settings

>> >> >> > and

>> >> >> > then published applications will show in the remote programs

>> >> >> > folder

>> >> >> > (just

>> >> >> > as

>> >> >> > Citrix farm does, the published aplications shows in the program

>> >> >> > folder

>> >> >> > after

>> >> >> > you configure the farm settings and users do not need to install

>> >> >> > packages

>> >> >> > etc.)

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Is this pssible?

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

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