Posting In The Future?

[Guest dadiOH]

Re: Posting In The Future?

 

DaffyD® wrote:

> I believe I've got it fixed now--how do the headers look?

 

Look for yourself...

 

1. right click on it

2. click "Properties"

3. click "Details"

 

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[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Posting In The Future?

 

Ctrl-F3 is one of my more well-used keystrokes.

 

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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:54:08 -0700, "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> put

> finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>>news:2hedd4d15hkkpmrem8i0oellgnk02heddj@4ax.com...

>

>>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:03:06 -0600, "Bill in Co."

>>> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>>>

>>> >Well, D4 is nice in that it keeps the system clock ON TIME (works fine

>>over

>>> >here), but if he can't find the problem there, I guess he's stuck with

>>> >that - as a "solution".

>>>

>>> I use WebTime 2000:

>>> http://www.gregorybraun.com/WebTime.html

>>>

>>> I manually synch my clock once a day. There is no executable running

>>> in the background to consume resources, however small.

>>

>>Wouldn't D4 and Web Time 2000 be very similar types of programs? Although

>>the picture of Merlin looks really cool. I might switch just for him.

>

> Yes, I only suggested Web Time because I've had no issues with it.

> However, Web Time does not have an automatic synch feature, so D4

> could be better from that point of view.

>

> BTW, why do you keep asking others if your headers look right? Doesn't

> OE allow you to see them for yourself?

>

> I don't use OE, but AIUI the following method displays your email

> message headers. Perhaps it works for newsgroup posts as well ???

>

> File -> Properties -> Details -> Message Source

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Posting In The Future?

 

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:ewQxM%237GJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:uax$jL6GJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:%23JOpvi2GJHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:ePg7xOtGJHA.3640@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> >

>> >> > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>> >> > news:ip26d4lqaltjfo8adt5ardbvv05rtoqdq5@4ax.com...

>> >> >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com>

> put

>> >> >> finger to keyboard and composed:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> >"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>> >> >> >news:a7p3d45r371bnvpsfnct9qpvu5iesf020r@4ax.com...

>> >> >>

>> >> >> >> These are your original headers as I see them:

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> ============================================================

>> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600

>> >> >> >> ============================================================

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas

>> > Pacific

>> >> >> >> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you

>> >> >> double-click the clock in the Systray?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> - Franc Zabkar

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

>> >> >

>> >> > (GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >> Which means your clock should read UTC -7. Because we're still on

>> >> Daylight

>> >> time. See my reply to Franc, at 2:27 Pacific Daylight Time, for a fix.

> Or

>> >> just go to my site and follow the trail.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> http://grystmill.com

>> >>

>> >> I did more fiddling around with TZ Edit and D4 and my system clock is

> now

>> > synch'd with my watch. Hopefully the headers for this message should be

>> > accurate.

>>

>> Looks fine to me. But it bothers me that using my update file didn't fix

> the

>> issue immediately, or didn't you try it without D4 in the mix? Without D4

>> being involved, the updater should have fixed the issue and I'd be very

>> interested to know if that wasn't the case. I don't know of any mechanism

> in

>> Win98 that would change that Registry key or its sub-keys.

>>

>> Turns out that the most recent update to the TZ info in WinXP and above

> was

>> released a month ago.

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951072/

>>

>> I'll be updating my files tomorrow, Sunday, but don't be surprised if

>> it's

>> Monday or even Tuesday before I upload everything. The very first and

>> only

>> monitor I ever bought for myself was a ViewSonic A75s, a CRT with "short

>> depth" dimensions. Spent the better part of its life powered up and

> serving

>> as my primary monitor. More recently it's been attached to whatever

> machine

>> happens to need it, usually my test machine. Well, when I cranked it up

> this

>> morning it started doing a snap, crackle, pop like it wanted to

> reincarnate

>> as an arc welder, so I've got to drag a used monitor out of the shed

>> tomorrow. Kinda sad, actually. that monitor had great color. IIRC,

>> there's

>> not much left in the shed that will work decently enough, or be "short"

>> enough to fit on my desk. Gotta see if any of my "clients" have any flat

>> panels that need to be "recycled". Might have to buy a new one. That's

>> revolting.

>

> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background, like D4,

> or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it works. Do I

> need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does your registry fix

> also

> negate the need for a time synchonization program?

 

TZEdit is a simple wizard that allows you to edit the data in

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones. It does not run

in the background, it doesn't sync your clock.

 

My patch is likewise passive. It's intended purpose is to simply update

pre-XP Windows systems to account for changes in the onset and finish dates

of Daylight Savings Time. I only injected it here because I saw that it

could be useful for recovering from your specific (and AFAIK rare) issue. If

D4 had been uninstalled before using my patch, and if my patch actually

completed (I'd do it manually to be certain, using the REG file and

restarting the system,) I'm almost 100% sure that the clock would have been

restored to like-new (and updated) Time Zone info. It's almost certain that

D4 that gave you all the grief, and based upon this event, alone, I'd stop

using D4. Period. I haven't got the time, right now, to attempt repeating

your issue, but I suspect the addition of Windows 2K/XP/2003 support to D4

somehow left the 9x part in an unstable state. It's either that, or your

system was already unstable and/or overly tweaked.(?) Find another app to do

the job. If it doesn't have it's own scheduler running in the background,

see if it's a good candidate for Task Scheduler. Just have to know the

command-line switches.

 

--

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MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

[Guest PCR]

Re: Posting In The Future?

 

DaffyD® wrote:

| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| news:ewQxM%237GJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

|> news:uax$jL6GJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

|> >

|> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> > news:%23JOpvi2GJHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> >> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

|> >> news:ePg7xOtGJHA.3640@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> >> >

|> >> > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

|> >> > news:ip26d4lqaltjfo8adt5ardbvv05rtoqdq5@4ax.com...

|> >> >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®"

|> >> >> <daffyd@woohoo.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

|> >> >>

|> >> >> >"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

|> >> >> >news:a7p3d45r371bnvpsfnct9qpvu5iesf020r@4ax.com...

|> >> >>

|> >> >> >> These are your original headers as I see them:

|> >> >> >>

|> >> >> >> ============================================================

|> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600

|> >> >> >> ============================================================

|> >> >> >>

|> >> >> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?)

|> >> >> >> whereas Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).

|> >> >> >

|> >> >> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:

|> >> >>

|> >> >> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600

|> >> >>

|> >> >> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you

|> >> >> double-click the clock in the Systray?

|> >> >>

|> >> >> - Franc Zabkar

|> >> >> --

|> >> >> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

|> >> >

|> >> > (GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.

|> >> >

|> >>

|> >> Which means your clock should read UTC -7. Because we're still on

|> >> Daylight

|> >> time. See my reply to Franc, at 2:27 Pacific Daylight Time, for a

|> >> fix. Or just go to my site and follow the trail.

|> >>

|> >> --

|> >> Gary S. Terhune

|> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> >> http://grystmill.com

|> >>

|> >> I did more fiddling around with TZ Edit and D4 and my system

|> >> clock is

| now

|> > synch'd with my watch. Hopefully the headers for this message

|> > should be accurate.

|>

|> Looks fine to me. But it bothers me that using my update file didn't

|> fix the issue immediately, or didn't you try it without D4 in the

|> mix? Without D4 being involved, the updater should have fixed the

|> issue and I'd be very interested to know if that wasn't the case. I

|> don't know of any mechanism in Win98 that would change that Registry

|> key or its sub-keys.

|>

|> Turns out that the most recent update to the TZ info in WinXP and

|> above was released a month ago.

|> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951072/

|>

|> I'll be updating my files tomorrow, Sunday, but don't be surprised

|> if it's Monday or even Tuesday before I upload everything. The very

|> first and only monitor I ever bought for myself was a ViewSonic

|> A75s, a CRT with "short depth" dimensions. Spent the better part of

|> its life powered up and serving as my primary monitor. More recently

|> it's been attached to whatever machine happens to need it, usually

|> my test machine. Well, when I cranked it up this morning it started

|> doing a snap, crackle, pop like it wanted to reincarnate as an arc

|> welder, so I've got to drag a used monitor out of the shed tomorrow.

|> Kinda sad, actually. that monitor had great color. IIRC, there's not

|> much left in the shed that will work decently enough, or be "short"

|> enough to fit on my desk. Gotta see if any of my "clients" have any

|> flat panels that need to be "recycled". Might have to buy a new one.

|> That's revolting.

|>

|> --

|> Gary S. Terhune

|> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> http://grystmill.com

|>

|> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background,

|> like D4,

| or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it works.

| Do I need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does your

| registry fix also negate the need for a time synchonization program?

 

I think I STILL see a problem somewhere, DaffyD®, looking at your last

post to Terhune...!...

 

OE "sent" date/time..... 9/23/08 1:46 AM

Your post's properties... Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:46:54 -0700

 

Those don't match by a lot! Did you write it online & post it

immediately or wait a day? (But I doubt that should matter.) Although it

looks worse than a time zone problem, what are you seeing when you run

TZEdit? Does it show the 2007 implementation...?...

 

.....Quote..........

The 2006 implementation is as follows:

• Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on April 2, 2006.

• Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on October 29, 2006.

 

The 2007 implementation is as follows:

• Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on March 11, 2007.

• Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on November 4, 2007

.....EOQ............

 

 

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[Guest PCR]

Re: Posting In The Future?

 

PCR wrote:

| DaffyD® wrote:

 

....snip

||> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background,

||> like D4,

|| or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it works.

|| Do I need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does your

|| registry fix also negate the need for a time synchonization program?

|

| I think I STILL see a problem somewhere, DaffyD®, looking at your last

| post to Terhune...!...

|

| OE "sent" date/time..... 9/23/08 1:46 AM

| Your post's properties... Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:46:54 -0700

|

| Those don't match by a lot! Did you write it online & post it

| immediately or wait a day? (But I doubt that should matter.) Although

| it looks worse than a time zone problem, what are you seeing when you

| run TZEdit? Does it show the 2007 implementation...?...

|

| ....Quote..........

| The 2006 implementation is as follows:

| • Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on April 2, 2006.

| • Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on October 29, 2006.

|

| The 2007 implementation is as follows:

| • Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on March 11, 2007.

| • Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on November 4, 2007

| ....EOQ............

 

Wait a minute! I think you are OK! There's a 3 hour difference between

what I see in your header & what I see in my OE display of your post.

You probably see those times as the same, as I see mine to be the same.

OE must be applying the time differential equalizer equation between us

(adding 3 hours to your header) before showing it to me! Sheesh! (I

might Chauvin an apology too.)

 

OK, good work-- you & Terhune. OK, bye.

 

| --

| Thanks or Good Luck,

| There may be humor in this post, and,

| Naturally, you will not sue,

| Should things get worse after this,

| PCR

| pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

--

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There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

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pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest DaffyD®]

Re: Posting In The Future?

 

 

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:54:08 -0700, "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> put

> finger to keyboard and composed:

>

> >"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> >news:2hedd4d15hkkpmrem8i0oellgnk02heddj@4ax.com...

>

> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:03:06 -0600, "Bill in Co."

> >> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

> >>

> >> >Well, D4 is nice in that it keeps the system clock ON TIME (works fine

> >over

> >> >here), but if he can't find the problem there, I guess he's stuck with

> >> >that - as a "solution".

> >>

> >> I use WebTime 2000:

> >> http://www.gregorybraun.com/WebTime.html

> >>

> >> I manually synch my clock once a day. There is no executable running

> >> in the background to consume resources, however small.

> >

> >Wouldn't D4 and Web Time 2000 be very similar types of programs? Although

> >the picture of Merlin looks really cool. I might switch just for him.

>

> Yes, I only suggested Web Time because I've had no issues with it.

> However, Web Time does not have an automatic synch feature, so D4

> could be better from that point of view.

>

> BTW, why do you keep asking others if your headers look right? Doesn't

> OE allow you to see them for yourself?

>

> I don't use OE, but AIUI the following method displays your email

> message headers. Perhaps it works for newsgroup posts as well ???

>

> File -> Properties -> Details -> Message Source

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

The problem was that the headers looked fine on my computer--I know how to

check them in Properties--but others in this newsgroup commented that I was

posting in the future based on the headers that they saw. Thankfully the

problem has been solved.

[Guest DaffyD®]

Re: Posting In The Future?

 

Please see my earlier posts for a description of the issue and its

resolution.

 

"dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message

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> DaffyD® wrote:

>

> > I believe I've got it fixed now--how do the headers look?

>

> Look for yourself...

>

> 1. right click on it

> 2. click "Properties"

> 3. click "Details"

>

> --

>

> dadiOH

> ____________________________

>

> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

>

>

>

[Guest DaffyD®]

Re: Posting In The Future?

 

I see everything in OE in Pacific Time--Standard or Daylight.

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

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> PCR wrote:

> | DaffyD® wrote:

>

> ...snip

> ||> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background,

> ||> like D4,

> || or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it works.

> || Do I need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does your

> || registry fix also negate the need for a time synchonization program?

> |

> | I think I STILL see a problem somewhere, DaffyD®, looking at your last

> | post to Terhune...!...

> |

> | OE "sent" date/time..... 9/23/08 1:46 AM

> | Your post's properties... Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:46:54 -0700

> |

> | Those don't match by a lot! Did you write it online & post it

> | immediately or wait a day? (But I doubt that should matter.) Although

> | it looks worse than a time zone problem, what are you seeing when you

> | run TZEdit? Does it show the 2007 implementation...?...

> |

> | ....Quote..........

> | The 2006 implementation is as follows:

> | . Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on April 2, 2006.

> | . Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on October 29, 2006.

> |

> | The 2007 implementation is as follows:

> | . Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on March 11, 2007.

> | . Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on November 4, 2007

> | ....EOQ............

>

> Wait a minute! I think you are OK! There's a 3 hour difference between

> what I see in your header & what I see in my OE display of your post.

> You probably see those times as the same, as I see mine to be the same.

> OE must be applying the time differential equalizer equation between us

> (adding 3 hours to your header) before showing it to me! Sheesh! (I

> might Chauvin an apology too.)

>

> OK, good work-- you & Terhune. OK, bye.

>

> | --

> | Thanks or Good Luck,

> | There may be humor in this post, and,

> | Naturally, you will not sue,

> | Should things get worse after this,

> | PCR

> | pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

Per my OE, you posted at 4:07 PM but your headers show 19:07 PM. So you're

right about the 3 hr difference.

--

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If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.

>

[Guest PCR]

Re: Posting In The Future?

 

DaffyD® wrote:

| I see everything in OE in Pacific Time--Standard or Daylight.

 

Yea. Good work with that. I hope from now on they leave these start/stop

days alone for that!

 

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:eG5jhEdHJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

|> PCR wrote:

|> | DaffyD® wrote:

|>

|> ...snip

|> ||> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background,

|> ||> like D4,

|> || or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it

|> || works. Do I need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does

|> || your registry fix also negate the need for a time synchonization

|> || program?

|> |

|> | I think I STILL see a problem somewhere, DaffyD®, looking at your

|> | last post to Terhune...!...

|> |

|> | OE "sent" date/time..... 9/23/08 1:46 AM

|> | Your post's properties... Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:46:54 -0700

|> |

|> | Those don't match by a lot! Did you write it online & post it

|> | immediately or wait a day? (But I doubt that should matter.)

|> | Although it looks worse than a time zone problem, what are you

|> | seeing when you run TZEdit? Does it show the 2007

|> | implementation...?...

|> |

|> | ....Quote..........

|> | The 2006 implementation is as follows:

|> | . Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on April 2, 2006.

|> | . Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on October 29, 2006.

|> |

|> | The 2007 implementation is as follows:

|> | . Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on March 11, 2007.

|> | . Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on November 4, 2007

|> | ....EOQ............

|>

|> Wait a minute! I think you are OK! There's a 3 hour difference

|> between what I see in your header & what I see in my OE display of

|> your post. You probably see those times as the same, as I see mine

|> to be the same. OE must be applying the time differential equalizer

|> equation between us (adding 3 hours to your header) before showing

|> it to me! Sheesh! (I might Chauvin an apology too.)

|>

|> OK, good work-- you & Terhune. OK, bye.

 

....snip of extraneous signatures...

| Per my OE, you posted at 4:07 PM but your headers show 19:07 PM. So

| you're right about the 3 hr difference.

 

Yep, as it finally struck me: OE is putting the sender's local time in

the header & the reader's time in the OE display. Thanks for the

confirmation. You must be near Terhune in California. So, careful you

don't fall on his head in the next earthquake. I hope your other problem

about Win98 vrs. W2K & drivers for the USB also will be solved. I'm

staying out of that one until the last minute.

 

| --

| DaffyD®

|

| If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.

 

That was funny what remo said about that! Remember...?...

 

"take one thing to heart mister duck,, at least you are now 12hours

ahead of yourself, and hence, you dont need your sig/logo anymore. tee

hee."

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

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