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Hi all,

 

I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume (Basic

Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2 partitions:

 

39MB Dell Utilities Partition

200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

 

For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated space

in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

 

1847.96GB Unallocated

2607.00 GB Unallocated

 

Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the remaining

unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

 

TIA!

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Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

 

Hello paramr@community.nospam,

 

See last entry from Morgan Che:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

 

Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB

Max Partition on a GPT disk is about 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are

some limitations.... which effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

 

Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

 

Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS Volumes

much larger than a single partions....

 

In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However, even if

there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that capacity,

there are other limitations to the maximum size of a volume.

 

One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,

partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another

limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is

typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the future, the

current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32 * 512

bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

 

The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

 

Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?

 

Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long to backup

? how long to restore ?

 

Would you not be better off having multiple smaller partitions/volumes ?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no rights.

** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

 

> Hi all,

>

> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume

> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2

> partitions:

>

> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition

> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated

> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

>

> 1847.96GB Unallocated

> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the

> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

>

> TIA!

>

Guest paramr@community.nospam

Guest paramr@community.nospam

Posted
Posted

Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

 

This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run BackupExec

and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I

eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as my

backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of volume/partition to

store my backup data.

 

What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk would that

do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not recommended.

 

TIA!

 

 

<Meinolf Weber> wrote in message

news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...

> Hello paramr@community.nospam,

>

> See last entry from Morgan Che:

> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is about

> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which effectively

> will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS Volumes

> much larger than a single partions....

> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However, even

> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that

> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a volume.

> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,

> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another

> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is

> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the future, the

> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32 * 512

> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?

> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long to

> backup ? how long to restore ?

> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller partitions/volumes

> ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>

>> Hi all,

>>

>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume

>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2

>> partitions:

>>

>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition

>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated

>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

>>

>> 1847.96GB Unallocated

>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the

>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

>>

>> TIA!

>>

>

>

Guest paramr@community.nospam

Guest paramr@community.nospam

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Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

 

OK, so situation #2:

 

I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to Dynamic

disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why? Here is what my

disk manager looks like:

 

39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)

C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)

1847.96GB Unallocated

2607.00 GB Unallocated

 

Any ideas?

 

<paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run BackupExec

> and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I

> eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as my

> backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of volume/partition to

> store my backup data.

>

> What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk would

> that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not recommended.

>

> TIA!

>

>

> <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message

> news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...

>> Hello paramr@community.nospam,

>>

>> See last entry from Morgan Che:

>> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

>>

>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

>> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is about

>> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which

>> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

>> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

>> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS Volumes

>> much larger than a single partions....

>> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However, even

>> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that

>> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a volume.

>> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,

>> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another

>> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is

>> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the future, the

>> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32 * 512

>> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

>> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

>> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?

>> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long to

>> backup ? how long to restore ?

>> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller partitions/volumes

>> ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>> Best regards

>>

>> Meinolf Weber

>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>> confers no rights.

>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>

>>> Hi all,

>>>

>>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume

>>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2

>>> partitions:

>>>

>>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition

>>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

>>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated

>>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

>>>

>>> 1847.96GB Unallocated

>>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

>>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the

>>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

>>>

>>> TIA!

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Edwin vMierlo [MVP]

Guest Edwin vMierlo [MVP]

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Posted

Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

 

 

<paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> OK, so situation #2:

>

> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to Dynamic

> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?

 

You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.

It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID card, and

presented it as one big disk.

This is where you get into trouble.

 

If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for the

boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present this as a

secondary disk to the OS.

At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT prior of

putting any partitions on.

 

You did not specify any of your storage hardware

- are you using RAID ? (specify)

- how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?

 

Rgds,

Edwin.

 

 

> Here is what my

> disk manager looks like:

>

> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)

> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)

> 1847.96GB Unallocated

> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

>

> Any ideas?

>

> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run

BackupExec

> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I

> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as my

> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of volume/partition

to

> > store my backup data.

> >

> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk would

> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not

recommended.

> >

> > TIA!

> >

> >

> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message

> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...

> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,

> >>

> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:

> >>

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

> >>

>

>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------

> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is about

> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which

> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS

Volumes

> >> much larger than a single partions....

> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However,

even

> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that

> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a volume.

> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,

> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another

> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is

> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the future,

the

> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32 *

512

> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?

> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long to

> >> backup ? how long to restore ?

> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller partitions/volumes

> >>

? --------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------

> >>

> >> Best regards

> >>

> >> Meinolf Weber

> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> >> confers no rights.

> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> >>

> >>> Hi all,

> >>>

> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume

> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2

> >>> partitions:

> >>>

> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition

> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated

> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

> >>>

> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated

> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the

> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

> >>>

> >>> TIA!

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

Guest paramr@community.nospam

Guest paramr@community.nospam

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Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

 

Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...

 

 

"Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>

> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> OK, so situation #2:

>>

>> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to

>> Dynamic

>> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?

>

> You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.

> It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID card, and

> presented it as one big disk.

> This is where you get into trouble.

>

> If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for the

> boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present this as a

> secondary disk to the OS.

> At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT prior of

> putting any partitions on.

>

> You did not specify any of your storage hardware

> - are you using RAID ? (specify)

> - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?

>

> Rgds,

> Edwin.

>

>

>

>> Here is what my

>> disk manager looks like:

>>

>> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)

>> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)

>> 1847.96GB Unallocated

>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

>>

>> Any ideas?

>>

>> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

>> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run

> BackupExec

>> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I

>> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as my

>> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of volume/partition

> to

>> > store my backup data.

>> >

>> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk would

>> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not

> recommended.

>> >

>> > TIA!

>> >

>> >

>> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message

>> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...

>> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,

>> >>

>> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:

>> >>

> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

>> >>

>>

>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

> ---------------------------------------------

>> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

>> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is

>> >> about

>> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which

>> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

>> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

>> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS

> Volumes

>> >> much larger than a single partions....

>> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However,

> even

>> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that

>> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a volume.

>> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,

>> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another

>> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is

>> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the future,

> the

>> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32 *

> 512

>> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

>> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

>> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?

>> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long to

>> >> backup ? how long to restore ?

>> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller partitions/volumes

>> >>

> ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------

> ----------------------------------------

>> >>

>> >> Best regards

>> >>

>> >> Meinolf Weber

>> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>> >> confers no rights.

>> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>> >>

>> >>> Hi all,

>> >>>

>> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume

>> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2

>> >>> partitions:

>> >>>

>> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition

>> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

>> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated

>> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

>> >>>

>> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated

>> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

>> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the

>> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

>> >>>

>> >>> TIA!

>> >>>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Edwin vMierlo [MVP]

Guest Edwin vMierlo [MVP]

Posted
Posted

Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

 

you should really break that out in a different raid config

 

- 2x1TB in RAID-1 -- 1TB for your system boot disk

- 4x1TB in RAID-5 -- 3TB for your data disk (after installing your OS on the

first disk, you can convert this to GPT and create a 3TB partition

 

rgds,

Edwin.

 

 

 

<paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

news:uuFmSAmGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...

>

>

> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >

> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> > news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> OK, so situation #2:

> >>

> >> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to

> >> Dynamic

> >> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?

> >

> > You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.

> > It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID card,

and

> > presented it as one big disk.

> > This is where you get into trouble.

> >

> > If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for the

> > boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present this as

a

> > secondary disk to the OS.

> > At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT prior

of

> > putting any partitions on.

> >

> > You did not specify any of your storage hardware

> > - are you using RAID ? (specify)

> > - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?

> >

> > Rgds,

> > Edwin.

> >

> >

> >

> >> Here is what my

> >> disk manager looks like:

> >>

> >> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)

> >> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)

> >> 1847.96GB Unallocated

> >> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

> >>

> >> Any ideas?

> >>

> >> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> >> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run

> > BackupExec

> >> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I

> >> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as

my

> >> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of

volume/partition

> > to

> >> > store my backup data.

> >> >

> >> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk

would

> >> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not

> > recommended.

> >> >

> >> > TIA!

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message

> >> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...

> >> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,

> >> >>

> >> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:

> >> >>

> >

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

> >> >>

> >>

>

>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

-

> > ---------------------------------------------

> >> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

> >> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is

> >> >> about

> >> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which

> >> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

> >> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

> >> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS

> > Volumes

> >> >> much larger than a single partions....

> >> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However,

> > even

> >> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that

> >> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a

volume.

> >> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,

> >> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another

> >> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is

> >> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the

future,

> > the

> >> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32

*

> > 512

> >> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

> >> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

> >> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?

> >> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long

to

> >> >> backup ? how long to restore ?

> >> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller

partitions/volumes

> >> >>

> >

? --------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > ----------------------------------------

> >> >>

> >> >> Best regards

> >> >>

> >> >> Meinolf Weber

> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> >> >> confers no rights.

> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> >> >>

> >> >>> Hi all,

> >> >>>

> >> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume

> >> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has

2

> >> >>> partitions:

> >> >>>

> >> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition

> >> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

> >> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining

unallocated

> >> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

> >> >>>

> >> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated

> >> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

> >> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the

> >> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> TIA!

> >> >>>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

Guest paramr@community.nospam

Guest paramr@community.nospam

Posted
Posted

Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

 

Instead of doing it that way, could I do this:-

 

Raid 5 using all 6 drives

 

Create a 200GB raid volume using the raid controller for OS

The rest of the space will be an empty unused volume that I can convert to

GPT?

 

 

"Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:%23X$7HKmGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> you should really break that out in a different raid config

>

> - 2x1TB in RAID-1 -- 1TB for your system boot disk

> - 4x1TB in RAID-5 -- 3TB for your data disk (after installing your OS on

> the

> first disk, you can convert this to GPT and create a 3TB partition

>

> rgds,

> Edwin.

>

>

>

> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> news:uuFmSAmGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...

>>

>>

>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >

>> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

>> > news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >> OK, so situation #2:

>> >>

>> >> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to

>> >> Dynamic

>> >> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?

>> >

>> > You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.

>> > It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID card,

> and

>> > presented it as one big disk.

>> > This is where you get into trouble.

>> >

>> > If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for

>> > the

>> > boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present this

>> > as

> a

>> > secondary disk to the OS.

>> > At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT prior

> of

>> > putting any partitions on.

>> >

>> > You did not specify any of your storage hardware

>> > - are you using RAID ? (specify)

>> > - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?

>> >

>> > Rgds,

>> > Edwin.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >> Here is what my

>> >> disk manager looks like:

>> >>

>> >> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)

>> >> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)

>> >> 1847.96GB Unallocated

>> >> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

>> >>

>> >> Any ideas?

>> >>

>> >> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

>> >> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run

>> > BackupExec

>> >> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I

>> >> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as

> my

>> >> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of

> volume/partition

>> > to

>> >> > store my backup data.

>> >> >

>> >> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk

> would

>> >> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not

>> > recommended.

>> >> >

>> >> > TIA!

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message

>> >> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...

>> >> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,

>> >> >>

>> >> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:

>> >> >>

>> >

> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

>> >> >>

>> >>

>>

>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> -

>> > ---------------------------------------------

>> >> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

>> >> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is

>> >> >> about

>> >> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which

>> >> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

>> >> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

>> >> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS

>> > Volumes

>> >> >> much larger than a single partions....

>> >> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters.

>> >> >> However,

>> > even

>> >> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that

>> >> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a

> volume.

>> >> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry

>> >> >> standards,

>> >> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size,

>> >> >> another

>> >> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and

>> >> >> is

>> >> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the

> future,

>> > the

>> >> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32

> *

>> > 512

>> >> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

>> >> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

>> >> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?

>> >> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long

> to

>> >> >> backup ? how long to restore ?

>> >> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller

> partitions/volumes

>> >> >>

>> >

> ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> > ----------------------------------------

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Best regards

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Meinolf Weber

>> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> confers no rights.

>> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>> >> >>

>> >> >>> Hi all,

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume

>> >> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It

>> >> >>> has

> 2

>> >> >>> partitions:

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition

>> >> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

>> >> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining

> unallocated

>> >> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated

>> >> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

>> >> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the

>> >> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> TIA!

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Edwin vMierlo [MVP]

Guest Edwin vMierlo [MVP]

Posted
Posted

Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

 

 

> Instead of doing it that way, could I do this:-

>

> Raid 5 using all 6 drives

>

> Create a 200GB raid volume using the raid controller for OS

> The rest of the space will be an empty unused volume that I can convert to

> GPT?

 

no, you convert disks to GPT, not volumes.

 

Why everything in 1 disk ?

 

 

>

>

> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message news:%23X$7HKmGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > you should really break that out in a different raid config

> >

> > - 2x1TB in RAID-1 -- 1TB for your system boot disk

> > - 4x1TB in RAID-5 -- 3TB for your data disk (after installing your OS on

> > the

> > first disk, you can convert this to GPT and create a 3TB partition

> >

> > rgds,

> > Edwin.

> >

> >

> >

> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> > news:uuFmSAmGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...

> >>

> >>

> >> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >> message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >

> >> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> >> > news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> >> OK, so situation #2:

> >> >>

> >> >> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to

> >> >> Dynamic

> >> >> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?

> >> >

> >> > You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.

> >> > It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID

card,

> > and

> >> > presented it as one big disk.

> >> > This is where you get into trouble.

> >> >

> >> > If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for

> >> > the

> >> > boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present this

> >> > as

> > a

> >> > secondary disk to the OS.

> >> > At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT

prior

> > of

> >> > putting any partitions on.

> >> >

> >> > You did not specify any of your storage hardware

> >> > - are you using RAID ? (specify)

> >> > - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?

> >> >

> >> > Rgds,

> >> > Edwin.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >> Here is what my

> >> >> disk manager looks like:

> >> >>

> >> >> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)

> >> >> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)

> >> >> 1847.96GB Unallocated

> >> >> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

> >> >>

> >> >> Any ideas?

> >> >>

> >> >> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> >> >> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> >> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run

> >> > BackupExec

> >> >> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I

> >> >> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server

as

> > my

> >> >> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of

> > volume/partition

> >> > to

> >> >> > store my backup data.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk

> > would

> >> >> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not

> >> > recommended.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > TIA!

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message

> >> >> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:

> >> >> >>

> >> >

> >

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

> >> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

>

>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

-

> > -

> >> > ---------------------------------------------

> >> >> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

> >> >> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is

> >> >> >> about

> >> >> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which

> >> >> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

> >> >> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

> >> >> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS

> >> > Volumes

> >> >> >> much larger than a single partions....

> >> >> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters.

> >> >> >> However,

> >> > even

> >> >> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of

that

> >> >> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a

> > volume.

> >> >> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry

> >> >> >> standards,

> >> >> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size,

> >> >> >> another

> >> >> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and

> >> >> >> is

> >> >> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the

> > future,

> >> > the

> >> >> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^

32

> > *

> >> > 512

> >> >> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

> >> >> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

> >> >> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume

?

> >> >> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how

long

> > to

> >> >> >> backup ? how long to restore ?

> >> >> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller

> > partitions/volumes

> >> >> >>

> >> >

> >

? --------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >> > ----------------------------------------

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Best regards

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Meinolf Weber

> >> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

> >> >> >> and

> >> >> >> confers no rights.

> >> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> >> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!

http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>> Hi all,

> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5

volume

> >> >> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It

> >> >> >>> has

> > 2

> >> >> >>> partitions:

> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition

> >> >> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

> >> >> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining

> > unallocated

> >> >> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated

> >> >> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

> >> >> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the

> >> >> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >>> TIA!

> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

Guest paramr@community.nospam

Guest paramr@community.nospam

Posted
Posted

Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

 

FYI, my raid controller let me do what is called "Raid splicing". So I was

able to splice up my Raid 5 into 1 200GB volume and 1 4.4TB volume. Both

those were presented as 2 disks to windows. So i installed the OS on the

200GB and I converted the other one to a GPT and then was able to partition

it all the way...

 

 

"Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:uTwit3IHJHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>

>> Instead of doing it that way, could I do this:-

>>

>> Raid 5 using all 6 drives

>>

>> Create a 200GB raid volume using the raid controller for OS

>> The rest of the space will be an empty unused volume that I can convert

>> to

>> GPT?

>

> no, you convert disks to GPT, not volumes.

>

> Why everything in 1 disk ?

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> message news:%23X$7HKmGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > you should really break that out in a different raid config

>> >

>> > - 2x1TB in RAID-1 -- 1TB for your system boot disk

>> > - 4x1TB in RAID-5 -- 3TB for your data disk (after installing your OS

>> > on

>> > the

>> > first disk, you can convert this to GPT and create a 3TB partition

>> >

>> > rgds,

>> > Edwin.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

>> > news:uuFmSAmGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

>> >> in

>> >> message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >

>> >> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

>> >> > news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> OK, so situation #2:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to

>> >> >> Dynamic

>> >> >> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?

>> >> >

>> >> > You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.

>> >> > It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID

> card,

>> > and

>> >> > presented it as one big disk.

>> >> > This is where you get into trouble.

>> >> >

>> >> > If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for

>> >> > the

>> >> > boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present

>> >> > this

>> >> > as

>> > a

>> >> > secondary disk to the OS.

>> >> > At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT

> prior

>> > of

>> >> > putting any partitions on.

>> >> >

>> >> > You did not specify any of your storage hardware

>> >> > - are you using RAID ? (specify)

>> >> > - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?

>> >> >

>> >> > Rgds,

>> >> > Edwin.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >> Here is what my

>> >> >> disk manager looks like:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)

>> >> >> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)

>> >> >> 1847.96GB Unallocated

>> >> >> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Any ideas?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run

>> >> > BackupExec

>> >> >> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk.

>> >> >> > I

>> >> >> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server

> as

>> > my

>> >> >> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of

>> > volume/partition

>> >> > to

>> >> >> > store my backup data.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk

>> > would

>> >> >> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not

>> >> > recommended.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > TIA!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message

>> >> >> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >

> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>>

>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

> -

>> > -

>> >> > ---------------------------------------------

>> >> >> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

>> >> >> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk

>> >> >> >> is

>> >> >> >> about

>> >> >> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which

>> >> >> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

>> >> >> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

>> >> >> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS

>> >> > Volumes

>> >> >> >> much larger than a single partions....

>> >> >> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters.

>> >> >> >> However,

>> >> > even

>> >> >> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of

> that

>> >> >> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a

>> > volume.

>> >> >> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry

>> >> >> >> standards,

>> >> >> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size,

>> >> >> >> another

>> >> >> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards,

>> >> >> >> and

>> >> >> >> is

>> >> >> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the

>> > future,

>> >> > the

>> >> >> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^

> 32

>> > *

>> >> > 512

>> >> >> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

>> >> >> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

>> >> >> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE

>> >> >> >> volume

> ?

>> >> >> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how

> long

>> > to

>> >> >> >> backup ? how long to restore ?

>> >> >> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller

>> > partitions/volumes

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >

> ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> >> > ----------------------------------------

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Best regards

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Meinolf Weber

>> >> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

>> >> >> >> and

>> >> >> >> confers no rights.

>> >> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> >> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!

> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >>> Hi all,

>> >> >> >>>

>> >> >> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5

> volume

>> >> >> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It

>> >> >> >>> has

>> > 2

>> >> >> >>> partitions:

>> >> >> >>>

>> >> >> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition

>> >> >> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

>> >> >> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining

>> > unallocated

>> >> >> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

>> >> >> >>>

>> >> >> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated

>> >> >> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

>> >> >> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all

>> >> >> >>> the

>> >> >> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

>> >> >> >>>

>> >> >> >>> TIA!

>> >> >> >>>

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>

>

  • 2 weeks later...
Guest Edwin vMierlo [MVP]

Guest Edwin vMierlo [MVP]

Posted
Posted

Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

 

 

<paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

news:uLIq8ZNHJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> FYI, my raid controller let me do what is called "Raid splicing". So I was

> able to splice up my Raid 5 into 1 200GB volume and 1 4.4TB volume. Both

> those were presented as 2 disks to windows. So i installed the OS on the

> 200GB and I converted the other one to a GPT and then was able to

partition

> it all the way...

 

Brilliant, you should be all set then !

 

Thanks for posting back

rgds,

Edwin.

 

>

>

> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message news:uTwit3IHJHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >

> >

> >> Instead of doing it that way, could I do this:-

> >>

> >> Raid 5 using all 6 drives

> >>

> >> Create a 200GB raid volume using the raid controller for OS

> >> The rest of the space will be an empty unused volume that I can convert

> >> to

> >> GPT?

> >

> > no, you convert disks to GPT, not volumes.

> >

> > Why everything in 1 disk ?

> >

> >

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >> message news:%23X$7HKmGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> > you should really break that out in a different raid config

> >> >

> >> > - 2x1TB in RAID-1 -- 1TB for your system boot disk

> >> > - 4x1TB in RAID-5 -- 3TB for your data disk (after installing your OS

> >> > on

> >> > the

> >> > first disk, you can convert this to GPT and create a 3TB partition

> >> >

> >> > rgds,

> >> > Edwin.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> >> > news:uuFmSAmGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> >> Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> >> >> in

> >> >> message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >

> >> >> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> >> >> > news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> OK, so situation #2:

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert

to

> >> >> >> Dynamic

> >> >> >> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.

> >> >> > It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID

> > card,

> >> > and

> >> >> > presented it as one big disk.

> >> >> > This is where you get into trouble.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them,

for

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present

> >> >> > this

> >> >> > as

> >> > a

> >> >> > secondary disk to the OS.

> >> >> > At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT

> > prior

> >> > of

> >> >> > putting any partitions on.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > You did not specify any of your storage hardware

> >> >> > - are you using RAID ? (specify)

> >> >> > - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Rgds,

> >> >> > Edwin.

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> Here is what my

> >> >> >> disk manager looks like:

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)

> >> >> >> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)

> >> >> >> 1847.96GB Unallocated

> >> >> >> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Any ideas?

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run

> >> >> > BackupExec

> >> >> >> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to

disk.

> >> >> >> > I

> >> >> >> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this

server

> > as

> >> > my

> >> >> >> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of

> >> > volume/partition

> >> >> > to

> >> >> >> > store my backup data.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic

disk

> >> > would

> >> >> >> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not

> >> >> > recommended.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > TIA!

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message

> >> >> >> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >

> >

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/winserverfiles/thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

>

>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

-

> > -

> >> > -

> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------

> >> >> >> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

> >> >> >> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk

> >> >> >> >> is

> >> >> >> >> about

> >> >> >> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which

> >> >> >> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

> >> >> >> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

> >> >> >> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create

NTFS

> >> >> > Volumes

> >> >> >> >> much larger than a single partions....

> >> >> >> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters.

> >> >> >> >> However,

> >> >> > even

> >> >> >> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of

> > that

> >> >> >> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a

> >> > volume.

> >> >> >> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry

> >> >> >> >> standards,

> >> >> >> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size,

> >> >> >> >> another

> >> >> >> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards,

> >> >> >> >> and

> >> >> >> >> is

> >> >> >> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the

> >> > future,

> >> >> > the

> >> >> >> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2

^

> > 32

> >> > *

> >> >> > 512

> >> >> >> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

> >> >> >> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

> >> >> >> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE

> >> >> >> >> volume

> > ?

> >> >> >> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how

> > long

> >> > to

> >> >> >> >> backup ? how long to restore ?

> >> >> >> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller

> >> > partitions/volumes

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >

> >

? --------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >> >> > ----------------------------------------

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Best regards

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Meinolf Weber

> >> >> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no

warranties,

> >> >> >> >> and

> >> >> >> >> confers no rights.

> >> >> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> >> >> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!

> > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >>> Hi all,

> >> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5

> > volume

> >> >> >> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB.

It

> >> >> >> >>> has

> >> > 2

> >> >> >> >>> partitions:

> >> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition

> >> >> >> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

> >> >> >> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining

> >> > unallocated

> >> >> >> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

> >> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated

> >> >> >> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated

> >> >> >> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all

> >> >> >> >>> the

> >> >> >> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

> >> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >> >>> TIA!

> >> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

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