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Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost, that

will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk, or do

they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image, which runs

in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive visible in DOS.

 

I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after I

decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

 

TIA

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Kerneldebugger wrote:

> Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost, that

> will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk, or do

> they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image, which runs

> in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive visible in DOS.

>

> I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after I

> decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

>

> TIA

>

>

>

Yes, You can use Acronis to clone a laptop to a USB. You don't need a

CD or floppy, you simply install the program on the laptop.

However Acronis will allow you to make a CD boot disk (if that's what

you mean by 'using a cd'), and then you can boot and make the clone.

Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

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Kerneldebugger <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote:

> Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton

> Ghost, that will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using

> a CD disk, or do they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with

> Drive Image, which runs in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make

> a USB drive visible in DOS.

> I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and

> after I decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a

> clone.

> TIA

 

I am a big fan of Acronis. Get Workstation with the universal restore

option, to cover all your bases.

Guest Kerneldebugger

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I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow me to

clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB. I want something

like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any partition on on HDD and clone

it to another HDD (but not one on a USB port). Also, it requires a floppy

drive. I want to clone a primary partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of

80 GB by booting to a CD that has the cloning program.

 

 

"Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

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> Kerneldebugger wrote:

>> Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost,

>> that will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk,

>> or do they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image,

>> which runs in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive

>> visible in DOS.

>>

>> I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after I

>> decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

>>

>> TIA

>>

>>

>>

> Yes, You can use Acronis to clone a laptop to a USB. You don't need a CD

> or floppy, you simply install the program on the laptop.

> However Acronis will allow you to make a CD boot disk (if that's what you

> mean by 'using a cd'), and then you can boot and make the clone.

Guest John John (MVP)

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Kerneldebugger wrote:

> Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost, that

> will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk, or do

> they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image, which runs

> in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive visible in DOS.

>

> I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after I

> decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

 

If you add Zone Alarm you will be "recrapify" it... big time!

 

John

Guest Onsokumaru

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Try BootIT NG, http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/index.htm

 

Boot from the CD or flash drive, don't install the program , just go into

maintainence mode and you can create an image from there.

 

"Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

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>I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow me to

>clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB. I want something

>like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any partition on on HDD and

>clone it to another HDD (but not one on a USB port). Also, it requires a

>floppy drive. I want to clone a primary partition of about 80 GB to a USB

>drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD that has the cloning program.

>

>

> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

> news:uByovIsGJHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Kerneldebugger wrote:

>>> Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost,

>>> that will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk,

>>> or do they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image,

>>> which runs in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive

>>> visible in DOS.

>>>

>>> I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after

>>> I decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

>>>

>>> TIA

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> Yes, You can use Acronis to clone a laptop to a USB. You don't need a CD

>> or floppy, you simply install the program on the laptop.

>> However Acronis will allow you to make a CD boot disk (if that's what you

>> mean by 'using a cd'), and then you can boot and make the clone.

>

>

Guest Big_Al

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Kerneldebugger wrote:

> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow me to

> clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB. I want something

> like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any partition on on HDD and clone

> it to another HDD (but not one on a USB port). Also, it requires a floppy

> drive. I want to clone a primary partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of

> 80 GB by booting to a CD that has the cloning program.

>

>

> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

> news:uByovIsGJHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Kerneldebugger wrote:

>>> Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost,

>>> that will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk,

>>> or do they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image,

>>> which runs in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive

>>> visible in DOS.

>>>

>>> I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after I

>>> decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

>>>

>>> TIA

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> Yes, You can use Acronis to clone a laptop to a USB. You don't need a CD

>> or floppy, you simply install the program on the laptop.

>> However Acronis will allow you to make a CD boot disk (if that's what you

>> mean by 'using a cd'), and then you can boot and make the clone.

>

>

 

I have not tried the trial copy, but I have both 9 and 11 versions of

ATI and it WILL clone from a 80 gig to a 100 gig USB drive. And it

will make a boot CD. I have to wonder about your setup then, as I

never thought the trial software they gave out was crippled in any way.

 

Then go get drive image 2002.

Guest Kerneldebugger

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And your an MVP?

 

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

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>

>

> Kerneldebugger wrote:

>

>> Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost,

>> that will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk,

>> or do they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image,

>> which runs in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive

>> visible in DOS.

>>

>> I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after I

>> decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

>

> If you add Zone Alarm you will be "recrapify" it... big time!

>

> John

Guest John John (MVP)

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Take your pick and read amongst the 69,000 posts here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=zone+alarm+problem&num=100&scoring=r&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=microsoft.public.*&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=20&as_maxm=9&as_maxy=2008&safe=off

 

It's your computer, do as you please, but as far as I am concerned the

application is not worth bothering with, we see posts here all the time

about problems that it causes.

 

John

 

Kerneldebugger wrote:

> And your an MVP?

>

> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

> news:eTmW7nuGJHA.468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

>>

>>Kerneldebugger wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost,

>>>that will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk,

>>>or do they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image,

>>>which runs in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive

>>>visible in DOS.

>>>

>>>I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after I

>>>decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

>>

>>If you add Zone Alarm you will be "recrapify" it... big time!

>>

>>John

>

>

>

Guest Kerneldebugger

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John John, if you think that's a list of problems, you ought to look at the

Microsoft.Pubic.windowsxp.general group...there are a gazillion problems

posted AND COUNTING. As for my computer, I built it, I loaded the operating

system, I turned off Microsoft's so called firewall, I loaded a free

anti-virus since Microsoft apparently doesn't think we need one with their

"new secure XP Professional" operating system, I installed Zone Alarm, and

this little beauty has been purring like a kitten for several years. I've

loaded Zone Alarm in many computers, never had or observed a problem until

Microsoft came out with SP-3, and it caused Zone Alarm to put out a patch.

You would do well to recommend a better firewall, if you indeed wish to be

VALUABLE, and that is assuming you can name a better one.

 

Also, this thread is about cloning a laptop, not firewalls. If I could find

a good cloning program that worked half as well as Zone Alarm, or Drive

Image 2002 for that matter, I wouldn't have posted my question to this

group. I'm beginning to wonder, if you aren't Carey Frisch in disguise!

 

 

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

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> Take your pick and read amongst the 69,000 posts here:

> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=zone+alarm+problem&num=100&scoring=r&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=microsoft.public.*&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=20&as_maxm=9&as_maxy=2008&safe=off

>

> It's your computer, do as you please, but as far as I am concerned the

> application is not worth bothering with, we see posts here all the time

> about problems that it causes.

>

> John

>

> Kerneldebugger wrote:

>

>> And your an MVP?

>>

>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

>> news:eTmW7nuGJHA.468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>

>>>

>>>Kerneldebugger wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost,

>>>>that will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk,

>>>>or do they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image,

>>>>which runs in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive

>>>>visible in DOS.

>>>>

>>>>I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after

>>>>I decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

>>>

>>>If you add Zone Alarm you will be "recrapify" it... big time!

>>>

>>>John

>>

>>

Guest Jason

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how?

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

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>

>

> Kerneldebugger wrote:

>

>> Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost,

>> that will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk,

>> or do they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image,

>> which runs in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive

>> visible in DOS.

>>

>> I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after I

>> decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

>

> If you add Zone Alarm you will be "recrapify" it... big time!

>

> John

Guest Daave

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"Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

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> I loaded a free anti-virus since Microsoft apparently doesn't think

> we need one with their "new secure XP Professional" operating system

 

Where did you get this idea?

Guest Daave

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"Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

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> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow

> me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

> I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

> partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

> USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a

> primary

> partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

> that has the cloning program.

 

My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire hard

drive, but not just one partition. I believe Casper XP can do what you

are describing.

 

But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another

step to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it will

work in a pinch.

Guest Big_Al

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Daave wrote:

> "Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

> news:uVp7v8sGJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow

>> me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

>> I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

>> partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

>> USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a

>> primary

>> partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

>> that has the cloning program.

>

> My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire hard

> drive, but not just one partition. I believe Casper XP can do what you

> are describing.

>

> But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another

> step to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it will

> work in a pinch.

>

>

Acronis will do partitions of a drive.

Guest Kerneldebugger

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"Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

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> Daave wrote:

>> "Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

>> news:uVp7v8sGJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow

>>> me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

>>> I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

>>> partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

>>> USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a primary

>>> partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

>>> that has the cloning program.

>>

>> My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire hard

>> drive, but not just one partition. I believe Casper XP can do what you

>> are describing.

>>

>> But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another step

>> to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it will work

>> in a pinch.

> Acronis will do partitions of a drive.

 

Will Home version 11 do that?

Guest Daave

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"Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

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> Daave wrote:

>> "Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

>> news:uVp7v8sGJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't

>>> allow

>>> me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

>>> I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

>>> partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

>>> USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a

>>> primary

>>> partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

>>> that has the cloning program.

>>

>> My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire

>> hard drive, but not just one partition. I believe Casper XP can do

>> what you are describing.

>>

>> But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another

>> step to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it

>> will work in a pinch.

> Acronis will do partitions of a drive.

 

I have ATI Home 9.0. Although it lets me resize the partitions during

the cloning of an entire hard drive, I'm pretty sure there's no way to

select just *one* of the partitions to clone. Googling confirms this

(even in Version 11). If you are able to point me to information to the

contrary, I certainly welcome it. I would imagine more expensive

versions of Acronis (Workstation or Enterprise) have this capability. Or

if I am wrong or if there is a tweak or hack to make this work, I would

certainly like to know about it.

Guest Frank-FL

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"Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message news:%23eDYlrrGJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost, that

> will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk, or do

> they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image, which runs

> in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive visible in DOS.

>

> I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after I

> decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

 

Why would anyone want to clone 15 GB to an 80 GB drive? A backup

image would do the trick using ATI. Also ZA is probably causing problems.

Guest Kerneldebugger

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You are correct Daave. I contacted Acronis and they confirmed that Acronis

Home 11 will not clone a partition, only the complete drive. Bummer, eh?

Drive Image 2002 was so sweet, copying each partition as you choose, in

Caldera DOS, and copying at 2,100 MB/Min.

 

Also, Acronis advised me that it does not clone a drive in DOS. And, that

they do not recommend cloning to an external USB drive because of the

possibility of boot problems. Woe is me.

 

Thanks to everyone for their replies.

 

 

"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

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> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

> news:ejg7Qn$GJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Daave wrote:

>>> "Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

>>> news:uVp7v8sGJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow

>>>> me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

>>>> I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

>>>> partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

>>>> USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a

>>>> primary

>>>> partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

>>>> that has the cloning program.

>>>

>>> My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire hard

>>> drive, but not just one partition. I believe Casper XP can do what you

>>> are describing.

>>>

>>> But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another

>>> step to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it will

>>> work in a pinch.

>> Acronis will do partitions of a drive.

>

> I have ATI Home 9.0. Although it lets me resize the partitions during the

> cloning of an entire hard drive, I'm pretty sure there's no way to select

> just *one* of the partitions to clone. Googling confirms this (even in

> Version 11). If you are able to point me to information to the contrary, I

> certainly welcome it. I would imagine more expensive versions of Acronis

> (Workstation or Enterprise) have this capability. Or if I am wrong or if

> there is a tweak or hack to make this work, I would certainly like to know

> about it.

>

Guest Kerneldebugger

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The reason I did it is because I wanted to test the Trial Version of Acronis

True Image, and I wanted to clone a 15 GB partition to an external USB HDD

that was clean and just happened to be sitting there running. It was a

test, it was only a test, if it had been a real emergency it wouldn't have

been a test. Bye yall.

 

 

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"Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

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> Is there a cloning program, such as Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost,

> that

> will clone a laptop hard drive to a USB hard drive using a CD disk, or do

> they require a floppy drive? I'm very familiar with Drive Image, which

> runs

> in Caldera DOS, but I don't know how to make a USB drive visible in DOS.

>

> I've ordered a Lenovo r61 for a college student, with XP Pro, and after I

> decrapify it, add SP-3, Avast and ZA, etc, I'd like to make a clone.

 

Why would anyone want to clone 15 GB to an 80 GB drive? A backup

image would do the trick using ATI. Also ZA is probably causing problems.

Guest Big_Al

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Kerneldebugger wrote:

> You are correct Daave. I contacted Acronis and they confirmed that Acronis

> Home 11 will not clone a partition, only the complete drive. Bummer, eh?

> Drive Image 2002 was so sweet, copying each partition as you choose, in

> Caldera DOS, and copying at 2,100 MB/Min.

>

> Also, Acronis advised me that it does not clone a drive in DOS. And, that

> they do not recommend cloning to an external USB drive because of the

> possibility of boot problems. Woe is me.

>

> Thanks to everyone for their replies.

>

>

> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

> news:uFAS1nHHJHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

>> news:ejg7Qn$GJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Daave wrote:

>>>> "Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

>>>> news:uVp7v8sGJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow

>>>>> me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

>>>>> I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

>>>>> partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

>>>>> USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a

>>>>> primary

>>>>> partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

>>>>> that has the cloning program.

>>>> My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire hard

>>>> drive, but not just one partition. I believe Casper XP can do what you

>>>> are describing.

>>>>

>>>> But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another

>>>> step to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it will

>>>> work in a pinch.

>>> Acronis will do partitions of a drive.

>> I have ATI Home 9.0. Although it lets me resize the partitions during the

>> cloning of an entire hard drive, I'm pretty sure there's no way to select

>> just *one* of the partitions to clone. Googling confirms this (even in

>> Version 11). If you are able to point me to information to the contrary, I

>> certainly welcome it. I would imagine more expensive versions of Acronis

>> (Workstation or Enterprise) have this capability. Or if I am wrong or if

>> there is a tweak or hack to make this work, I would certainly like to know

>> about it.

>>

>

>

I think the issue is the word Clone. I do an image backup of just a

partition and have no issue. But clone, no, I have not done it this

way. Just one time I "cloned" the entire 2 partition drive.

But on the other side of the coin, can you create an image of one

partition, then just restore that image to a newly create partition of

the right size? Granted you have to do the partition manually.

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"Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

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> Kerneldebugger wrote:

>> You are correct Daave. I contacted Acronis and they confirmed that

>> Acronis Home 11 will not clone a partition, only the complete drive.

>> Bummer, eh? Drive Image 2002 was so sweet, copying each partition as you

>> choose, in Caldera DOS, and copying at 2,100 MB/Min.

>>

>> Also, Acronis advised me that it does not clone a drive in DOS. And,

>> that they do not recommend cloning to an external USB drive because of

>> the possibility of boot problems. Woe is me.

>>

>> Thanks to everyone for their replies.

>>

>>

>> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:uFAS1nHHJHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

>>> news:ejg7Qn$GJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> Daave wrote:

>>>>> "Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uVp7v8sGJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow

>>>>>> me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

>>>>>> I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

>>>>>> partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

>>>>>> USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a

>>>>>> primary

>>>>>> partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

>>>>>> that has the cloning program.

>>>>> My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire

>>>>> hard drive, but not just one partition. I believe Casper XP can do

>>>>> what you are describing.

>>>>>

>>>>> But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another

>>>>> step to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it

>>>>> will work in a pinch.

>>>> Acronis will do partitions of a drive.

>>> I have ATI Home 9.0. Although it lets me resize the partitions during

>>> the cloning of an entire hard drive, I'm pretty sure there's no way to

>>> select just *one* of the partitions to clone. Googling confirms this

>>> (even in Version 11). If you are able to point me to information to the

>>> contrary, I certainly welcome it. I would imagine more expensive

>>> versions of Acronis (Workstation or Enterprise) have this capability. Or

>>> if I am wrong or if there is a tweak or hack to make this work, I would

>>> certainly like to know about it.

>>>

>>

>>

> I think the issue is the word Clone. I do an image backup of just a

> partition and have no issue. But clone, no, I have not done it this way.

> Just one time I "cloned" the entire 2 partition drive.

> But on the other side of the coin, can you create an image of one

> partition, then just restore that image to a newly create partition of the

> right size? Granted you have to do the partition manually.

 

Take a look at Casper at http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/

It will clone a whole drive or a partition

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"olfart" <olfart65@excite.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

> news:uDbJ%23YZHJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Kerneldebugger wrote:

>>> You are correct Daave. I contacted Acronis and they confirmed that

>>> Acronis Home 11 will not clone a partition, only the complete drive.

>>> Bummer, eh? Drive Image 2002 was so sweet, copying each partition as you

>>> choose, in Caldera DOS, and copying at 2,100 MB/Min.

>>>

>>> Also, Acronis advised me that it does not clone a drive in DOS. And,

>>> that they do not recommend cloning to an external USB drive because of

>>> the possibility of boot problems. Woe is me.

>>>

>>> Thanks to everyone for their replies.

>>>

>>>

>>> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

>>> news:uFAS1nHHJHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:ejg7Qn$GJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Daave wrote:

>>>>>> "Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uVp7v8sGJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't

>>>>>>> allow

>>>>>>> me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

>>>>>>> I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

>>>>>>> partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

>>>>>>> USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a

>>>>>>> primary

>>>>>>> partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

>>>>>>> that has the cloning program.

>>>>>> My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire

>>>>>> hard drive, but not just one partition. I believe Casper XP can do

>>>>>> what you are describing.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another

>>>>>> step to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it

>>>>>> will work in a pinch.

>>>>> Acronis will do partitions of a drive.

>>>> I have ATI Home 9.0. Although it lets me resize the partitions during

>>>> the cloning of an entire hard drive, I'm pretty sure there's no way to

>>>> select just *one* of the partitions to clone. Googling confirms this

>>>> (even in Version 11). If you are able to point me to information to the

>>>> contrary, I certainly welcome it. I would imagine more expensive

>>>> versions of Acronis (Workstation or Enterprise) have this capability.

>>>> Or if I am wrong or if there is a tweak or hack to make this work, I

>>>> would certainly like to know about it.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>> I think the issue is the word Clone. I do an image backup of just a

>> partition and have no issue. But clone, no, I have not done it this way.

>> Just one time I "cloned" the entire 2 partition drive.

>> But on the other side of the coin, can you create an image of one

>> partition, then just restore that image to a newly create partition of

>> the right size? Granted you have to do the partition manually.

>

> Take a look at Casper at http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/

> It will clone a whole drive or a partition

>

 

I did, I don't like the price.

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If you insist on using DOS then do a net search for Motto Hairu.

 

John

 

Kerneldebugger wrote:

> You are correct Daave. I contacted Acronis and they confirmed that Acronis

> Home 11 will not clone a partition, only the complete drive. Bummer, eh?

> Drive Image 2002 was so sweet, copying each partition as you choose, in

> Caldera DOS, and copying at 2,100 MB/Min.

>

> Also, Acronis advised me that it does not clone a drive in DOS. And, that

> they do not recommend cloning to an external USB drive because of the

> possibility of boot problems. Woe is me.

>

> Thanks to everyone for their replies.

>

>

> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

> news:uFAS1nHHJHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>

>>"Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

>>news:ejg7Qn$GJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>

>>>Daave wrote:

>>>

>>>>"Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

>>>>news:uVp7v8sGJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>>I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow

>>>>>me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

>>>>>I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

>>>>>partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

>>>>>USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a

>>>>>primary

>>>>>partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

>>>>>that has the cloning program.

>>>>

>>>>My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire hard

>>>>drive, but not just one partition. I believe Casper XP can do what you

>>>>are describing.

>>>>

>>>>But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another

>>>>step to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it will

>>>>work in a pinch.

>>>

>>>Acronis will do partitions of a drive.

>>

>>I have ATI Home 9.0. Although it lets me resize the partitions during the

>>cloning of an entire hard drive, I'm pretty sure there's no way to select

>>just *one* of the partitions to clone. Googling confirms this (even in

>>Version 11). If you are able to point me to information to the contrary, I

>>certainly welcome it. I would imagine more expensive versions of Acronis

>>(Workstation or Enterprise) have this capability. Or if I am wrong or if

>>there is a tweak or hack to make this work, I would certainly like to know

>>about it.

>>

>

>

>

Guest Galen Somerville

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"Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

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> Kerneldebugger wrote:

>> You are correct Daave. I contacted Acronis and they confirmed that

>> Acronis Home 11 will not clone a partition, only the complete drive.

>> Bummer, eh? Drive Image 2002 was so sweet, copying each partition as you

>> choose, in Caldera DOS, and copying at 2,100 MB/Min.

>>

>> Also, Acronis advised me that it does not clone a drive in DOS. And,

>> that they do not recommend cloning to an external USB drive because of

>> the possibility of boot problems. Woe is me.

>>

>> Thanks to everyone for their replies.

>>

>>

>> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:uFAS1nHHJHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message

>>> news:ejg7Qn$GJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> Daave wrote:

>>>>> "Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uVp7v8sGJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow

>>>>>> me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

>>>>>> I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

>>>>>> partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

>>>>>> USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a

>>>>>> primary

>>>>>> partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

>>>>>> that has the cloning program.

>>>>> My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire

>>>>> hard drive, but not just one partition. I believe Casper XP can do

>>>>> what you are describing.

>>>>>

>>>>> But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another

>>>>> step to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it

>>>>> will work in a pinch.

>>>> Acronis will do partitions of a drive.

>>> I have ATI Home 9.0. Although it lets me resize the partitions during

>>> the cloning of an entire hard drive, I'm pretty sure there's no way to

>>> select just *one* of the partitions to clone. Googling confirms this

>>> (even in Version 11). If you are able to point me to information to the

>>> contrary, I certainly welcome it. I would imagine more expensive

>>> versions of Acronis (Workstation or Enterprise) have this capability. Or

>>> if I am wrong or if there is a tweak or hack to make this work, I would

>>> certainly like to know about it.

>>>

>>

>>

> I think the issue is the word Clone. I do an image backup of just a

> partition and have no issue. But clone, no, I have not done it this way.

> Just one time I "cloned" the entire 2 partition drive.

> But on the other side of the coin, can you create an image of one

> partition, then just restore that image to a newly create partition of the

> right size? Granted you have to do the partition manually.

 

I think the real clue is, the OP was using a "Trial" copy. It doesn't have

all the features of a purchased copy.

 

Galen

Guest Patrick Keenan

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"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message

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> "Kerneldebugger" <krnldebuggr@anonrem.gov> wrote in message

> news:uVp7v8sGJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> I just tried the free trial version of Acronis, and it wouldn't allow

>> me to clone a C partition of 15 GB to a blank USB HDD of 80 GB.

>> I want something like Drive Image 2002 wherein I can select any

>> partition on on HDD and clone it to another HDD (but not one on a

>> USB port). Also, it requires a floppy drive. I want to clone a primary

>> partition of about 80 GB to a USB drive of 80 GB by booting to a CD

>> that has the cloning program.

>

> My understanding is that Acronis will allow you to clone the entire hard

> drive, but not just one partition.

 

TrueImage can absolutely do this.

 

-pk

> I believe Casper XP can do what you are describing.

>

> But why not make an image of your C: partiton? Granted, it's another step

> to restore this image to your USB external hard drive, but it will work in

> a pinch.

>

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