Guest Kenneth Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Howdy, I have a simple batch file that dumps 4000 contacts from my database to a TXT file, and then imports them to my Contacts. Recently, that last phase has been producing some errors indicating a problem with the command line text that does the import. This happens intermittently. The folks who support the importing software (Contact Genie) tell me that the command line text is fine (as I would assume because it usually works properly), and they believe that something is corrupting the command line text preventing their software from correctly interpreting it... I have experimented with the simple work-around of running the BAT file in Safe Mode with Networking, and this seems to work. So, with all that as introduction, here is my question: Is there a way for me to modify the BAT file so that it says, in effect, "re-boot into Safe Mode with Networking, run this routine, then re-boot into full XP?" Many thanks for any help on this, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
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Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? "Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message news:644jd4hue0ten96l4gcs4i2ovqg5at1has@4ax.com... > > Howdy, > > I have a simple batch file that dumps 4000 contacts from my > database to a TXT file, and then imports them to my > Contacts. > > Recently, that last phase has been producing some errors > indicating a problem with the command line text that does > the import. This happens intermittently. > > The folks who support the importing software (Contact Genie) > tell me that the command line text is fine (as I would > assume because it usually works properly), and they believe > that something is corrupting the command line text > preventing their software from correctly interpreting it... > > I have experimented with the simple work-around of running > the BAT file in Safe Mode with Networking, and this seems to > work. > > So, with all that as introduction, here is my question: > > Is there a way for me to modify the BAT file so that it > says, in effect, "re-boot into Safe Mode with Networking, > run this routine, then re-boot into full XP?" > > Many thanks for any help on this, > -- > Kenneth If a program works in Safe Mode but fails in Normal Mode then you have an agent running in Safe Mode that intereferes with your program. The usual method to resolve this problem is based on isolating and removing the interfering agent. To boot into safe mode, you need to maintain two versions of the hidden file c:\boot.ini, e.g. c:\boot.norm and c:\boot.safe. The file c:\boot.safe should have this line: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:minimal whereas the file c:\boot.norm lacks the /safeboot:minimal switch. You also need a batch file c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with these lines inside: @echo off if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini shutdown /.. /.. ) else ( copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini ) And here is how you put it all together: 1. Create a shortcut on your desktop. Call it "Boot into Safe Mode" and point it at c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with a parameter of "Safe" (without the double quotes!). 2. Create a scheduled task. It should invoke c:\windows\MyBoot.bat and it must run at boot time. That's all. Now each time you double-click "Boot into Safe Mode", the machine will reboot in Safe Mode. The next time it will boot normally. Enjoy!
Guest Kenneth Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:35:01 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >news:644jd4hue0ten96l4gcs4i2ovqg5at1has@4ax.com... >> >> Howdy, >> >> I have a simple batch file that dumps 4000 contacts from my >> database to a TXT file, and then imports them to my >> Contacts. >> >> Recently, that last phase has been producing some errors >> indicating a problem with the command line text that does >> the import. This happens intermittently. >> >> The folks who support the importing software (Contact Genie) >> tell me that the command line text is fine (as I would >> assume because it usually works properly), and they believe >> that something is corrupting the command line text >> preventing their software from correctly interpreting it... >> >> I have experimented with the simple work-around of running >> the BAT file in Safe Mode with Networking, and this seems to >> work. >> >> So, with all that as introduction, here is my question: >> >> Is there a way for me to modify the BAT file so that it >> says, in effect, "re-boot into Safe Mode with Networking, >> run this routine, then re-boot into full XP?" >> >> Many thanks for any help on this, >> -- >> Kenneth > >If a program works in Safe Mode but fails in Normal Mode then you have an >agent running in Safe Mode that intereferes with your program. The usual >method to resolve this problem is based on isolating and removing the >interfering agent. > >To boot into safe mode, you need to maintain two versions of the hidden file >c:\boot.ini, e.g. c:\boot.norm and c:\boot.safe. The file c:\boot.safe >should have this line: >multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP >Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:minimal >whereas the file c:\boot.norm lacks the /safeboot:minimal switch. > >You also need a batch file c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with these lines inside: >@echo off >if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( > copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini > shutdown /.. /.. >) else ( > copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini >) > >And here is how you put it all together: > >1. Create a shortcut on your desktop. Call it "Boot into Safe Mode" and >point it at c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with a parameter of "Safe" (without the >double quotes!). >2. Create a scheduled task. It should invoke c:\windows\MyBoot.bat and it >must run at boot time. > >That's all. Now each time you double-click "Boot into Safe Mode", the >machine will reboot in Safe Mode. The next time it will boot normally. > >Enjoy! > Hello again, Many thanks for the great help...! I realize now that I neglected to say that I need Safe Mode with Networking. What modification would I need for that? All the best, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Kenneth Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:34:29 -0400, Kenneth <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: >>SNIP<< Hi again, With some sniffing around, it seems that instead of: /safeboot:minimal I would use /safeboot:network Would that do the deed? Thanks again, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Kenneth Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:35:01 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >news:644jd4hue0ten96l4gcs4i2ovqg5at1has@4ax.com... >> >> Howdy, >> >> I have a simple batch file that dumps 4000 contacts from my >> database to a TXT file, and then imports them to my >> Contacts. >> >> Recently, that last phase has been producing some errors >> indicating a problem with the command line text that does >> the import. This happens intermittently. >> >> The folks who support the importing software (Contact Genie) >> tell me that the command line text is fine (as I would >> assume because it usually works properly), and they believe >> that something is corrupting the command line text >> preventing their software from correctly interpreting it... >> >> I have experimented with the simple work-around of running >> the BAT file in Safe Mode with Networking, and this seems to >> work. >> >> So, with all that as introduction, here is my question: >> >> Is there a way for me to modify the BAT file so that it >> says, in effect, "re-boot into Safe Mode with Networking, >> run this routine, then re-boot into full XP?" >> >> Many thanks for any help on this, >> -- >> Kenneth > >If a program works in Safe Mode but fails in Normal Mode then you have an >agent running in Safe Mode that intereferes with your program. The usual >method to resolve this problem is based on isolating and removing the >interfering agent. > >To boot into safe mode, you need to maintain two versions of the hidden file >c:\boot.ini, e.g. c:\boot.norm and c:\boot.safe. The file c:\boot.safe >should have this line: >multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP >Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:minimal >whereas the file c:\boot.norm lacks the /safeboot:minimal switch. > >You also need a batch file c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with these lines inside: >@echo off >if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( > copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini > shutdown /.. /.. >) else ( > copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini >) > >And here is how you put it all together: > >1. Create a shortcut on your desktop. Call it "Boot into Safe Mode" and >point it at c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with a parameter of "Safe" (without the >double quotes!). >2. Create a scheduled task. It should invoke c:\windows\MyBoot.bat and it > run at boot time. > >That's all. Now each time you double-click "Boot into Safe Mode", the >machine will reboot in Safe Mode. The next time it will boot normally. > >Enjoy! > Hi Pegasus, There is one thing in your suggestion that I don't understand... You wrote: 1. Create a shortcut on your desktop. Call it "Boot into Safe Mode" and point it at c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with a parameter of "Safe" >double quotes!). but I don't know how to add the Safe parameter. Also, I need Safe with Networking, so in any case I need a bit more information. Many thanks, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? "Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message news:il8ld4p7vp8krr1loks2hltsg0bo6bf4cc@4ax.com... > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:35:01 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" > <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >> >>"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >>news:644jd4hue0ten96l4gcs4i2ovqg5at1has@4ax.com... >>> >>> Howdy, >>> >>> I have a simple batch file that dumps 4000 contacts from my >>> database to a TXT file, and then imports them to my >>> Contacts. >>> >>> Recently, that last phase has been producing some errors >>> indicating a problem with the command line text that does >>> the import. This happens intermittently. >>> >>> The folks who support the importing software (Contact Genie) >>> tell me that the command line text is fine (as I would >>> assume because it usually works properly), and they believe >>> that something is corrupting the command line text >>> preventing their software from correctly interpreting it... >>> >>> I have experimented with the simple work-around of running >>> the BAT file in Safe Mode with Networking, and this seems to >>> work. >>> >>> So, with all that as introduction, here is my question: >>> >>> Is there a way for me to modify the BAT file so that it >>> says, in effect, "re-boot into Safe Mode with Networking, >>> run this routine, then re-boot into full XP?" >>> >>> Many thanks for any help on this, >>> -- >>> Kenneth >> >>If a program works in Safe Mode but fails in Normal Mode then you have an >>agent running in Safe Mode that intereferes with your program. The usual >>method to resolve this problem is based on isolating and removing the >>interfering agent. >> >>To boot into safe mode, you need to maintain two versions of the hidden >>file >>c:\boot.ini, e.g. c:\boot.norm and c:\boot.safe. The file c:\boot.safe >>should have this line: >>multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP >>Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:minimal >>whereas the file c:\boot.norm lacks the /safeboot:minimal switch. >> >>You also need a batch file c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with these lines inside: >>@echo off >>if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( >> copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini >> shutdown /.. /.. >>) else ( >> copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini >>) >> >>And here is how you put it all together: >> >>1. Create a shortcut on your desktop. Call it "Boot into Safe Mode" and >>point it at c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with a parameter of "Safe" (without the >>double quotes!). >>2. Create a scheduled task. It should invoke c:\windows\MyBoot.bat and it >> run at boot time. >> >>That's all. Now each time you double-click "Boot into Safe Mode", the >>machine will reboot in Safe Mode. The next time it will boot normally. >> >>Enjoy! >> > > Hi Pegasus, > > There is one thing in your suggestion that I don't > understand... > > You wrote: > > 1. Create a shortcut on your desktop. Call it "Boot into > Safe Mode" and point it at c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with a > parameter of "Safe" >>double quotes!). > > but I don't know how to add the Safe parameter. > > Also, I need Safe with Networking, so in any case I need a > bit more information. > > Many thanks, > -- > Kenneth > After creating the shortcut, right-click it, then click "Properties". Now add a space to the far end in the "Target" box and type "Safe". It's as simple as that! You previously wrote that you found the switch "/safeboot:network" after some sniffing about. This sounds quite reasonable. I suggest you try it out. If it does not work, do some more sniffing and report the result here - I would have to do the same thing too!
Guest Kenneth Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:50:26 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >news:il8ld4p7vp8krr1loks2hltsg0bo6bf4cc@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:35:01 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" >> <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >>>news:644jd4hue0ten96l4gcs4i2ovqg5at1has@4ax.com... >>>> >>>> Howdy, >>>> >>>> I have a simple batch file that dumps 4000 contacts from my >>>> database to a TXT file, and then imports them to my >>>> Contacts. >>>> >>>> Recently, that last phase has been producing some errors >>>> indicating a problem with the command line text that does >>>> the import. This happens intermittently. >>>> >>>> The folks who support the importing software (Contact Genie) >>>> tell me that the command line text is fine (as I would >>>> assume because it usually works properly), and they believe >>>> that something is corrupting the command line text >>>> preventing their software from correctly interpreting it... >>>> >>>> I have experimented with the simple work-around of running >>>> the BAT file in Safe Mode with Networking, and this seems to >>>> work. >>>> >>>> So, with all that as introduction, here is my question: >>>> >>>> Is there a way for me to modify the BAT file so that it >>>> says, in effect, "re-boot into Safe Mode with Networking, >>>> run this routine, then re-boot into full XP?" >>>> >>>> Many thanks for any help on this, >>>> -- >>>> Kenneth >>> >>>If a program works in Safe Mode but fails in Normal Mode then you have an >>>agent running in Safe Mode that intereferes with your program. The usual >>>method to resolve this problem is based on isolating and removing the >>>interfering agent. >>> >>>To boot into safe mode, you need to maintain two versions of the hidden >>>file >>>c:\boot.ini, e.g. c:\boot.norm and c:\boot.safe. The file c:\boot.safe >>>should have this line: >>>multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP >>>Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:minimal >>>whereas the file c:\boot.norm lacks the /safeboot:minimal switch. >>> >>>You also need a batch file c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with these lines inside: >>>@echo off >>>if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( >>> copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini >>> shutdown /.. /.. >>>) else ( >>> copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini >>>) >>> >>>And here is how you put it all together: >>> >>>1. Create a shortcut on your desktop. Call it "Boot into Safe Mode" and >>>point it at c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with a parameter of "Safe" (without the >>>double quotes!). >>>2. Create a scheduled task. It should invoke c:\windows\MyBoot.bat and it >>> run at boot time. >>> >>>That's all. Now each time you double-click "Boot into Safe Mode", the >>>machine will reboot in Safe Mode. The next time it will boot normally. >>> >>>Enjoy! >>> >> >> Hi Pegasus, >> >> There is one thing in your suggestion that I don't >> understand... >> >> You wrote: >> >> 1. Create a shortcut on your desktop. Call it "Boot into >> Safe Mode" and point it at c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with a >> parameter of "Safe" >>>double quotes!). >> >> but I don't know how to add the Safe parameter. >> >> Also, I need Safe with Networking, so in any case I need a >> bit more information. >> >> Many thanks, >> -- >> Kenneth >> > >After creating the shortcut, right-click it, then click "Properties". Now >add a space to the far end in the "Target" box and type "Safe". It's as >simple as that! > >You previously wrote that you found the switch "/safeboot:network" after >some sniffing about. This sounds quite reasonable. I suggest you try it out. >If it does not work, do some more sniffing and report the result here - I >would have to do the same thing too! > Hi again, I modified the Target as per your description, and the shortcut points to: @echo off if /i "%1"=="Safe" (copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini shutdown /.. /..) else (copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini) I have the other bat files just as you have described. But, when I fire up the shortcut, all that happens is a momentary flash of the command line. The system does not reboot. That is true whether I set the shortcut target parameter to safe, or to safe:network. In the hope that you might spot the problem, I will include everything I have done. C:\boot.norm consists of: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect (I just pasted in my present boot.ini. Was that what you intended?) C:\boot.safe consists of: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:network c:\windows\MyBoot.bat consists of: @echo off if /i "%1"=="Safe" (copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini shutdown /.. /..) else (copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini) (Does the above need the [boot loader] line?) and finally, I have a scheduled task that calls c:\windows\MyBoot.bat and runs at boot. Sincere thanks for any further help, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? "Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message news:4odld4tjb8a4g76634b53n962br968pi5h@4ax.com... > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:50:26 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" > <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >> >>"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >>news:il8ld4p7vp8krr1loks2hltsg0bo6bf4cc@4ax.com... >>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:35:01 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" >>> <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >>>>news:644jd4hue0ten96l4gcs4i2ovqg5at1has@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> Howdy, >>>>> >>>>> I have a simple batch file that dumps 4000 contacts from my >>>>> database to a TXT file, and then imports them to my >>>>> Contacts. >>>>> >>>>> Recently, that last phase has been producing some errors >>>>> indicating a problem with the command line text that does >>>>> the import. This happens intermittently. >>>>> >>>>> The folks who support the importing software (Contact Genie) >>>>> tell me that the command line text is fine (as I would >>>>> assume because it usually works properly), and they believe >>>>> that something is corrupting the command line text >>>>> preventing their software from correctly interpreting it... >>>>> >>>>> I have experimented with the simple work-around of running >>>>> the BAT file in Safe Mode with Networking, and this seems to >>>>> work. >>>>> >>>>> So, with all that as introduction, here is my question: >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way for me to modify the BAT file so that it >>>>> says, in effect, "re-boot into Safe Mode with Networking, >>>>> run this routine, then re-boot into full XP?" >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks for any help on this, >>>>> -- >>>>> Kenneth >>>> >>>>If a program works in Safe Mode but fails in Normal Mode then you have >>>>an >>>>agent running in Safe Mode that intereferes with your program. The usual >>>>method to resolve this problem is based on isolating and removing the >>>>interfering agent. >>>> >>>>To boot into safe mode, you need to maintain two versions of the hidden >>>>file >>>>c:\boot.ini, e.g. c:\boot.norm and c:\boot.safe. The file c:\boot.safe >>>>should have this line: >>>>multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP >>>>Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:minimal >>>>whereas the file c:\boot.norm lacks the /safeboot:minimal switch. >>>> >>>>You also need a batch file c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with these lines >>>>inside: >>>>@echo off >>>>if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( >>>> copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini >>>> shutdown /.. /.. >>>>) else ( >>>> copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini >>>>) >>>> >>>>And here is how you put it all together: >>>> >>>>1. Create a shortcut on your desktop. Call it "Boot into Safe Mode" and >>>>point it at c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with a parameter of "Safe" (without >>>>the >>>>double quotes!). >>>>2. Create a scheduled task. It should invoke c:\windows\MyBoot.bat and >>>>it >>>> run at boot time. >>>> >>>>That's all. Now each time you double-click "Boot into Safe Mode", the >>>>machine will reboot in Safe Mode. The next time it will boot normally. >>>> >>>>Enjoy! >>>> >>> >>> Hi Pegasus, >>> >>> There is one thing in your suggestion that I don't >>> understand... >>> >>> You wrote: >>> >>> 1. Create a shortcut on your desktop. Call it "Boot into >>> Safe Mode" and point it at c:\windows\MyBoot.bat with a >>> parameter of "Safe" >>>>double quotes!). >>> >>> but I don't know how to add the Safe parameter. >>> >>> Also, I need Safe with Networking, so in any case I need a >>> bit more information. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> -- >>> Kenneth >>> >> >>After creating the shortcut, right-click it, then click "Properties". Now >>add a space to the far end in the "Target" box and type "Safe". It's as >>simple as that! >> >>You previously wrote that you found the switch "/safeboot:network" after >>some sniffing about. This sounds quite reasonable. I suggest you try it >>out. >>If it does not work, do some more sniffing and report the result here - I >>would have to do the same thing too! >> > > Hi again, > > I modified the Target as per your description, and the > shortcut points to: > > @echo off if /i "%1"=="Safe" (copy /y c:\boot.safe > c:\boot.ini shutdown /.. /..) else > (copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini) > > > I have the other bat files just as you have described. > > But, when I fire up the shortcut, all that happens is a > momentary flash of the command line. The system does not > reboot. > > That is true whether I set the shortcut target parameter to > safe, or to safe:network. > > In the hope that you might spot the problem, I will include > everything I have done. > > C:\boot.norm consists of: > > [boot loader] > timeout=30 > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS > [operating systems] > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft > Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect > > (I just pasted in my present boot.ini. Was that what you > intended?) > > > > C:\boot.safe consists of: > > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin > /safeboot:network > > > > > c:\windows\MyBoot.bat consists of: > > @echo off if /i "%1"=="Safe" (copy /y c:\boot.safe > c:\boot.ini shutdown /.. /..) else > (copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini) > > (Does the above need the [boot loader] line?) > > > and finally, I have a scheduled task that calls > c:\windows\MyBoot.bat and runs at boot. > > Sincere thanks for any further help, > -- > Kenneth > > If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." I can see a few problems in your approach. Firstly, your batch file has the lines broken up differently from the way I put them. Here is what I wrote: @echo off if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini shutdown /.. /.. ) else ( copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini ) You must not take liberties when copying & pasting this file. Secondly, the file c:\boot.safe must be an exact copy of the file c:\boot.norm, with this switch added to the last line: /safeboot:network. After making these changes, you MUST test your batch file. You do it in a Command Prompt so that you can see what's going on. Here is how it's done: 1. Click Start/Run/cmd{OK} 2. Type the following commands: type c:\boot.ini{Enter} (Examine what you see on the screen) MyBoot.bat Safe {Enter} type c:\boot.ini(Enter) (Examine the screen again. You should see the "/safeboot" switch.) MyBoot.bat{Enter} type c:\boot.ini{Enter} (Examine the screen again. There should be no "/safeboot" switch.) If there are error messages then you must make a note of them.
Guest Kenneth Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:27:43 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >I can see a few problems in your approach. Firstly, your batch file has the >lines broken up differently from the way I put them. Here is what I wrote: >@echo off >if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( > copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini > shutdown /.. /.. >) else ( > copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini >) >You must not take liberties when copying & pasting this file. > >Secondly, the file c:\boot.safe must be an exact copy of the file >c:\boot.norm, with this switch added to the last line: /safeboot:network. > >After making these changes, you MUST test your batch file. You do it in a >Command Prompt so that you can see what's going on. Here is how it's done: >1. Click Start/Run/cmd{OK} >2. Type the following commands: > type c:\boot.ini{Enter} > (Examine what you see on the screen) > MyBoot.bat Safe {Enter} > type c:\boot.ini(Enter) > (Examine the screen again. You should see the "/safeboot" switch.) > MyBoot.bat{Enter} > type c:\boot.ini{Enter} > (Examine the screen again. There should be no "/safeboot" switch.) >If there are error messages then you must make a note of them. > Hi again Pegasus, Many thanks for hangin' in there with me on this... Indeed I had taken "liberties" with the text. I (incorrectly) thought I was seeing some wrapping oddities. I will redo it shortly. All the best, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Kenneth Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:27:43 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >I can see a few problems in your approach. Firstly, your batch file has the >lines broken up differently from the way I put them. Here is what I wrote: >@echo off >if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( > copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini > shutdown /.. /.. >) else ( > copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini >) >You must not take liberties when copying & pasting this file. > >Secondly, the file c:\boot.safe must be an exact copy of the file >c:\boot.norm, with this switch added to the last line: /safeboot:network. > >After making these changes, you MUST test your batch file. You do it in a >Command Prompt so that you can see what's going on. Here is how it's done: >1. Click Start/Run/cmd{OK} >2. Type the following commands: > type c:\boot.ini{Enter} > (Examine what you see on the screen) > MyBoot.bat Safe {Enter} > type c:\boot.ini(Enter) > (Examine the screen again. You should see the "/safeboot" switch.) > MyBoot.bat{Enter} > type c:\boot.ini{Enter} > (Examine the screen again. There should be no "/safeboot" switch.) >If there are error messages then you must make a note of them. > Hi Pegasus, I have made the modifications you describe (and this time, strictly with cut & paste...) When, at the command line, I enter C:\boot.ini, it displays properly. But, when, at the command line, I enter "MyBoot.bat Safe" (without quotes), I get an access denied error. I experimented with entering "MyBoot.bat", "MyBoot.bat Safe:network" and got the same access denied error. I also tried it these will full path as "C:\Windows\MyBoot.bat Safe" but again, always have the same result. Thanks for any further help, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Kenneth Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:31:38 -0400, Kenneth <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: >On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:27:43 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" ><I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >> >>I can see a few problems in your approach. Firstly, your batch file has the >>lines broken up differently from the way I put them. Here is what I wrote: >>@echo off >>if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( >> copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini >> shutdown /.. /.. >>) else ( >> copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini >>) >>You must not take liberties when copying & pasting this file. >> >>Secondly, the file c:\boot.safe must be an exact copy of the file >>c:\boot.norm, with this switch added to the last line: /safeboot:network. >> >>After making these changes, you MUST test your batch file. You do it in a >>Command Prompt so that you can see what's going on. Here is how it's done: >>1. Click Start/Run/cmd{OK} >>2. Type the following commands: >> type c:\boot.ini{Enter} >> (Examine what you see on the screen) >> MyBoot.bat Safe {Enter} >> type c:\boot.ini(Enter) >> (Examine the screen again. You should see the "/safeboot" switch.) >> MyBoot.bat{Enter} >> type c:\boot.ini{Enter} >> (Examine the screen again. There should be no "/safeboot" switch.) >>If there are error messages then you must make a note of them. >> > >Hi Pegasus, > >I have made the modifications you describe (and this time, >strictly with cut & paste...) > >When, at the command line, I enter C:\boot.ini, it displays >properly. > >But, when, at the command line, I enter "MyBoot.bat Safe" >(without quotes), I get an access denied error. > >I experimented with entering "MyBoot.bat", "MyBoot.bat >Safe:network" and got the same access denied error. I also >tried it these will full path as "C:\Windows\MyBoot.bat >Safe" but again, always have the same result. > >Thanks for any further help, Hi again Pegasus, This might be of interest... As I thought about this further, I decided to look at my present boot.ini. I could not find it in C:\ and so ran a Search (yes, my hidden files are visible.) The only instance found is in C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth\Recent. The system boots fine, but it would appear that the bat files are pointing to a boot.ini that does not exist. Thanks again, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? "Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message news:3i8nd4lsket5e8l5rkj06c6u6dkpf569qd@4ax.com... > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:31:38 -0400, Kenneth > <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:27:43 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" >><I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >>> >>>I can see a few problems in your approach. Firstly, your batch file has >>>the >>>lines broken up differently from the way I put them. Here is what I >>>wrote: >>>@echo off >>>if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( >>> copy /y c:\boot.safe c:\boot.ini >>> shutdown /.. /.. >>>) else ( >>> copy /y c:\boot.norm c:\boot.ini >>>) >>>You must not take liberties when copying & pasting this file. >>> >>>Secondly, the file c:\boot.safe must be an exact copy of the file >>>c:\boot.norm, with this switch added to the last line: /safeboot:network. >>> >>>After making these changes, you MUST test your batch file. You do it in a >>>Command Prompt so that you can see what's going on. Here is how it's >>>done: >>>1. Click Start/Run/cmd{OK} >>>2. Type the following commands: >>> type c:\boot.ini{Enter} >>> (Examine what you see on the screen) >>> MyBoot.bat Safe {Enter} >>> type c:\boot.ini(Enter) >>> (Examine the screen again. You should see the "/safeboot" switch.) >>> MyBoot.bat{Enter} >>> type c:\boot.ini{Enter} >>> (Examine the screen again. There should be no "/safeboot" switch.) >>>If there are error messages then you must make a note of them. >>> >> >>Hi Pegasus, >> >>I have made the modifications you describe (and this time, >>strictly with cut & paste...) >> >>When, at the command line, I enter C:\boot.ini, it displays >>properly. >> >>But, when, at the command line, I enter "MyBoot.bat Safe" >>(without quotes), I get an access denied error. >> >>I experimented with entering "MyBoot.bat", "MyBoot.bat >>Safe:network" and got the same access denied error. I also >>tried it these will full path as "C:\Windows\MyBoot.bat >>Safe" but again, always have the same result. >> >>Thanks for any further help, > > Hi again Pegasus, > > This might be of interest... > > As I thought about this further, I decided to look at my > present boot.ini. > > I could not find it in C:\ and so ran a Search (yes, my > hidden files are visible.) > > The only instance found is in C:\Documents and > Settings\Kenneth\Recent. > > The system boots fine, but it would appear that the bat > files are pointing to a boot.ini that does not exist. > > Thanks again, > -- > Kenneth > > If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." The file c:\boot.ini is a hidden file. You must unhide it and remove its read-only attribute before you can run my batch file. And no, don't believe your search results. The file DOES exist in the root folder of drive C:. If you cannot get Windows Explorer to show you where it is, use the administrator's method: Open a Command Prompt (see my previous reply), then type this command: attrib -r -h -s c:\boot.ini {Enter}
Guest Kenneth Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:57:23 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >The file c:\boot.ini is a hidden file. You must unhide it and remove its >read-only attribute before you can run my batch file. And no, don't believe >your search results. The file DOES exist in the root folder of drive C:. If >you cannot get Windows Explorer to show you where it is, use the >administrator's method: Open a Command Prompt (see my previous reply), then >type this command: > >attrib -r -h -s c:\boot.ini {Enter} > Hi again Pegasus, Well, it appears that we are almost there... I have run the attrib, and now the bat file is working properly in the sense that it modifies the boot.ini in the intended ways. If I run MyBoot.bat, and then manually re-boot the box, it comes up in safe mode. If I then run MyBoot.bat again, and re-boot, it comes up in normal mode. But, when I attempt to run the shortcut to start the whole process, I see only a very brief flash of a command screen and nothing further happens, that is, there is no reboot. Here is everything I have at this point: On my desktop, I have a shortcut pointing to: C:\WINDOWS\MyBoot.bat safe:network MyBoot.bat is: @echo off if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( copy /y c:\boot.SAFE c:\boot.ini shutdown /.. /.. ) else ( copy /y c:\boot.NORM c:\boot.ini ) boot.SAFE is: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /safeboot:network boot.NORM is: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect and I have a scheduled task that runs MyBoot.bat at startup. I saw that in Myboot.bat the criterion is "Safe" but I am attempting to run "Safe:Network." I tried switching it, but still had the same result: brief flash, but no reboot. Many thanks as before, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Kenneth Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:59:52 -0400, Kenneth <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: Hi again, A few minutes ago, I wrote: > >If I run MyBoot.bat, and then manually re-boot the box, it >comes up in safe mode. If I then run MyBoot.bat again, and >re-boot, it comes up in normal mode. but since then, I have tried it again. Now, if I run MyBoot.bat, it shows 1 file copied, but does not modify boot.ini, which remains in its normal mode. If I repeat, exactly the same thing happens. Sincere thanks, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? "Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message news:1iind4d8tnd6k7q8tar57vbu777sb34u1v@4ax.com... > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:59:52 -0400, Kenneth > <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: > > Hi again, > > A few minutes ago, I wrote: > >> >>If I run MyBoot.bat, and then manually re-boot the box, it >>comes up in safe mode. If I then run MyBoot.bat again, and >>re-boot, it comes up in normal mode. > > > but since then, I have tried it again. > > Now, if I run MyBoot.bat, it shows 1 file copied, but does > not modify boot.ini, which remains in its normal mode. > > If I repeat, exactly the same thing happens. > > Sincere thanks, > -- > Kenneth > > If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." You need to acquire a better understanding of the process in order to debug it. Consider the following points: - MyBoot.bat does NOT modify c:\boot.ini. It replaces it. - When you run "MyBoot.bat safe" then c:\boot.ini gets replaced by c:\boot.safe. - When you run "MyBoot.bat" then c:\boot.ini gets replaced by c:\boot.norm. During the debugging phase, change the line "shutdown /.. /.." in MyBoot.bat to "rem shutdown /.. /.." so that the machine does not reboot all the time. Armed with the above knowledge you should be able to find out what's wrong. The whole thing is not "black magic" but rather a "substitution racket" . . ..
Guest Kenneth Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:04:55 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >news:1iind4d8tnd6k7q8tar57vbu777sb34u1v@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:59:52 -0400, Kenneth >> <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: >> >> Hi again, >> >> A few minutes ago, I wrote: >> >>> >>>If I run MyBoot.bat, and then manually re-boot the box, it >>>comes up in safe mode. If I then run MyBoot.bat again, and >>>re-boot, it comes up in normal mode. >> >> >> but since then, I have tried it again. >> >> Now, if I run MyBoot.bat, it shows 1 file copied, but does >> not modify boot.ini, which remains in its normal mode. >> >> If I repeat, exactly the same thing happens. >> >> Sincere thanks, >> -- >> Kenneth >> >> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." > >You need to acquire a better understanding of the process in order to debug >it. Consider the following points: >- MyBoot.bat does NOT modify c:\boot.ini. It replaces it. >- When you run "MyBoot.bat safe" then c:\boot.ini gets replaced by >c:\boot.safe. >- When you run "MyBoot.bat" then c:\boot.ini gets replaced by c:\boot.norm. > >During the debugging phase, change the line "shutdown /.. /.." in MyBoot.bat >to "rem shutdown /.. /.." so that the machine does not reboot all the time. > >Armed with the above knowledge you should be able to find out what's wrong. >The whole thing is not "black magic" but rather a "substitution racket" . . >. > Hi Pegasus, My wording was poor, but I did understand that MyBoot.bat copies the appropriate version into boot.ini, that is, replaces it. You responded as if I had said that MyBoot.bat was causing rebooting while I was attempting to debug. The problem I am having now is that when I run MyBoot.bat, it does NOT reboot the system at all. Many thanks, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? "Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message news:ib0od457969gh293dm70a70n5enb2uib9l@4ax.com... > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:04:55 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" > <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >> >>"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >>news:1iind4d8tnd6k7q8tar57vbu777sb34u1v@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:59:52 -0400, Kenneth >>> <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi again, >>> >>> A few minutes ago, I wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>If I run MyBoot.bat, and then manually re-boot the box, it >>>>comes up in safe mode. If I then run MyBoot.bat again, and >>>>re-boot, it comes up in normal mode. >>> >>> >>> but since then, I have tried it again. >>> >>> Now, if I run MyBoot.bat, it shows 1 file copied, but does >>> not modify boot.ini, which remains in its normal mode. >>> >>> If I repeat, exactly the same thing happens. >>> >>> Sincere thanks, >>> -- >>> Kenneth >>> >>> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." >> >>You need to acquire a better understanding of the process in order to >>debug >>it. Consider the following points: >>- MyBoot.bat does NOT modify c:\boot.ini. It replaces it. >>- When you run "MyBoot.bat safe" then c:\boot.ini gets replaced by >>c:\boot.safe. >>- When you run "MyBoot.bat" then c:\boot.ini gets replaced by >>c:\boot.norm. >> >>During the debugging phase, change the line "shutdown /.. /.." in >>MyBoot.bat >>to "rem shutdown /.. /.." so that the machine does not reboot all the >>time. >> >>Armed with the above knowledge you should be able to find out what's >>wrong. >>The whole thing is not "black magic" but rather a "substitution racket" . >>. >>. >> > > Hi Pegasus, > > My wording was poor, but I did understand that MyBoot.bat > copies the appropriate version into boot.ini, that is, > replaces it. > > You responded as if I had said that MyBoot.bat was causing > rebooting while I was attempting to debug. > > The problem I am having now is that when I run MyBoot.bat, > it does NOT reboot the system at all. > > Many thanks, > -- > Kenneth Sorry - can't tell. I left the exact composition of the "shutdown" command to you and I get the impression that you never filled in the missing bits. This command has a number of switches and you need to familiarise yourself with them by typing shutdown /? at the Command Prompt.
Guest Kenneth Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:36:43 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >news:ib0od457969gh293dm70a70n5enb2uib9l@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:04:55 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" >> <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message >>>news:1iind4d8tnd6k7q8tar57vbu777sb34u1v@4ax.com... >>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:59:52 -0400, Kenneth >>>> <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi again, >>>> >>>> A few minutes ago, I wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>If I run MyBoot.bat, and then manually re-boot the box, it >>>>>comes up in safe mode. If I then run MyBoot.bat again, and >>>>>re-boot, it comes up in normal mode. >>>> >>>> >>>> but since then, I have tried it again. >>>> >>>> Now, if I run MyBoot.bat, it shows 1 file copied, but does >>>> not modify boot.ini, which remains in its normal mode. >>>> >>>> If I repeat, exactly the same thing happens. >>>> >>>> Sincere thanks, >>>> -- >>>> Kenneth >>>> >>>> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." >>> >>>You need to acquire a better understanding of the process in order to >>>debug >>>it. Consider the following points: >>>- MyBoot.bat does NOT modify c:\boot.ini. It replaces it. >>>- When you run "MyBoot.bat safe" then c:\boot.ini gets replaced by >>>c:\boot.safe. >>>- When you run "MyBoot.bat" then c:\boot.ini gets replaced by >>>c:\boot.norm. >>> >>>During the debugging phase, change the line "shutdown /.. /.." in >>>MyBoot.bat >>>to "rem shutdown /.. /.." so that the machine does not reboot all the >>>time. >>> >>>Armed with the above knowledge you should be able to find out what's >>>wrong. >>>The whole thing is not "black magic" but rather a "substitution racket" . >>>. >>>. >>> >> >> Hi Pegasus, >> >> My wording was poor, but I did understand that MyBoot.bat >> copies the appropriate version into boot.ini, that is, >> replaces it. >> >> You responded as if I had said that MyBoot.bat was causing >> rebooting while I was attempting to debug. >> >> The problem I am having now is that when I run MyBoot.bat, >> it does NOT reboot the system at all. >> >> Many thanks, >> -- >> Kenneth > >Sorry - can't tell. I left the exact composition of the "shutdown" command >to you and I get the impression that you never filled in the missing bits. >This command has a number of switches and you need to familiarise yourself >with them by typing shutdown /? at the Command Prompt. > Hello again, Indeed, I did not fill in the "missing bits" as I did not know that there were any to be filled in. I'll get on it, and will let you know. Many thanks, as before, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Kenneth Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:13:31 -0400, Kenneth <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: >> >>Sorry - can't tell. I left the exact composition of the "shutdown" command >>to you and I get the impression that you never filled in the missing bits. >>This command has a number of switches and you need to familiarise yourself >>with them by typing shutdown /? at the Command Prompt. >> > >Hello again, > >Indeed, I did not fill in the "missing bits" as I did not >know that there were any to be filled in. > >I'll get on it, and will let you know. > >Many thanks, as before, Hi again, I entered the appropriate shutdown switches, and not the shortcut causes the reboot into safe mode with networking. Unfortunately, running it a second time leaves it in safe mode, but before asking anything about that issue, I have another question: I had hoped to do all this because I have a BAT file that invokes a process that often fails when run in normal mode. If running in safe mode, it always runs properly. I wanted to create a routine that would boot into safe mode, run my BAT file, and when it finished, would re-boot back into normal mode. In all this, I had neglected the fact that when I enter safe mode, I have to log in again, and have to enter my password. Am I correct that there is no way that I could "bypass" that part of the process? That is, am I correct that even if I get this working correctly, I will still have to enter that password manually? Please let me know, and that will help me to decide if I should pursue this further. Many thanks, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? "Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message news:33bod41694apcenstqerlnjb5rqlpbtt0i@4ax.com... > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:13:31 -0400, Kenneth > <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: >>> >>>Sorry - can't tell. I left the exact composition of the "shutdown" >>>command >>>to you and I get the impression that you never filled in the missing >>>bits. >>>This command has a number of switches and you need to familiarise >>>yourself >>>with them by typing shutdown /? at the Command Prompt. >>> >> >>Hello again, >> >>Indeed, I did not fill in the "missing bits" as I did not >>know that there were any to be filled in. >> >>I'll get on it, and will let you know. >> >>Many thanks, as before, > > Hi again, > > I entered the appropriate shutdown switches, and not the > shortcut causes the reboot into safe mode with networking. > > Unfortunately, running it a second time leaves it in safe > mode, but before asking anything about that issue, I have > another question: > > I had hoped to do all this because I have a BAT file that > invokes a process that often fails when run in normal mode. > If running in safe mode, it always runs properly. > > I wanted to create a routine that would boot into safe mode, > run my BAT file, and when it finished, would re-boot back > into normal mode. > > In all this, I had neglected the fact that when I enter safe > mode, I have to log in again, and have to enter my password. > > Am I correct that there is no way that I could "bypass" that > part of the process? That is, am I correct that even if I > get this working correctly, I will still have to enter that > password manually? > > Please let me know, and that will help me to decide if I > should pursue this further. > > Many thanks, > -- > Kenneth > > If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." It is possible to fully automate the logon process and to force a specific process to run after the automatic logon process, either unconditionally or conditional upon the current mode (Safe Mode / Normal Mode).
Guest Kenneth Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:59:42 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >> Hi again, >> >> I entered the appropriate shutdown switches, and not the >> shortcut causes the reboot into safe mode with networking. >> >> Unfortunately, running it a second time leaves it in safe >> mode, but before asking anything about that issue, I have >> another question: >> >> I had hoped to do all this because I have a BAT file that >> invokes a process that often fails when run in normal mode. >> If running in safe mode, it always runs properly. >> >> I wanted to create a routine that would boot into safe mode, >> run my BAT file, and when it finished, would re-boot back >> into normal mode. >> >> In all this, I had neglected the fact that when I enter safe >> mode, I have to log in again, and have to enter my password. >> >> Am I correct that there is no way that I could "bypass" that >> part of the process? That is, am I correct that even if I >> get this working correctly, I will still have to enter that >> password manually? >> >> Please let me know, and that will help me to decide if I >> should pursue this further. >> >> Many thanks, >> -- >> Kenneth >> >> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." > >It is possible to fully automate the logon process and to force a specific >process to run after the automatic logon process, either unconditionally or >conditional upon the current mode (Safe Mode / Normal Mode). > Hi Pegasus, Thanks for that info... I will pursue this further, and very much appreciate all your kind help. All the best, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Kenneth Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:07:42 -0400, Kenneth <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: >On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:59:42 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" ><I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: > >>> Hi again, >>> >>> I entered the appropriate shutdown switches, and not the >>> shortcut causes the reboot into safe mode with networking. >>> >>> Unfortunately, running it a second time leaves it in safe >>> mode, but before asking anything about that issue, I have >>> another question: >>> >>> I had hoped to do all this because I have a BAT file that >>> invokes a process that often fails when run in normal mode. >>> If running in safe mode, it always runs properly. >>> >>> I wanted to create a routine that would boot into safe mode, >>> run my BAT file, and when it finished, would re-boot back >>> into normal mode. >>> >>> In all this, I had neglected the fact that when I enter safe >>> mode, I have to log in again, and have to enter my password. >>> >>> Am I correct that there is no way that I could "bypass" that >>> part of the process? That is, am I correct that even if I >>> get this working correctly, I will still have to enter that >>> password manually? >>> >>> Please let me know, and that will help me to decide if I >>> should pursue this further. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> -- >>> Kenneth >>> >>> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." >> >>It is possible to fully automate the logon process and to force a specific >>process to run after the automatic logon process, either unconditionally or >>conditional upon the current mode (Safe Mode / Normal Mode). >> > >Hi Pegasus, > >Thanks for that info... > >I will pursue this further, and very much appreciate all >your kind help. > >All the best, Hi again, I remain perplexed, and despite some help from folks in a batch file group, can't get the routine to work properly. If I launch the desktop shortcut, the system reboots into Safe Mode with Networking as I wanted. But then, if I reboot, it boots again into Safe Mode with Networking. If, instead of rebooting, I first run myboot.bat manually, then when I do reboot, the system boots into Normal Mode. So, it appears that either myboot.bat is not running when the system boots, (even though is displays in Scheduled Tasks as "run at system startup,") or, it does run at boot, but finds "Safe" to be true, and so keeps the system in Safe Mode. Here is the current myboot.bat: @echo off if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( attrib -r -a -s -h c:\boot.ini copy /y c:\boot.SAFE c:\boot.ini shutdown -r -t 00 ) else ( attrib -r -a -s -h c:\boot.ini copy /y c:\boot.NORM c:\boot.ini ) Can you spot the problem? Many thanks, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? "Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message news:lpdvd4de14bolr3n67f4fmr9732qckr0j2@4ax.com... > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:07:42 -0400, Kenneth > <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote: > >>On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:59:42 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" >><I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >> >>>> Hi again, >>>> >>>> I entered the appropriate shutdown switches, and not the >>>> shortcut causes the reboot into safe mode with networking. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, running it a second time leaves it in safe >>>> mode, but before asking anything about that issue, I have >>>> another question: >>>> >>>> I had hoped to do all this because I have a BAT file that >>>> invokes a process that often fails when run in normal mode. >>>> If running in safe mode, it always runs properly. >>>> >>>> I wanted to create a routine that would boot into safe mode, >>>> run my BAT file, and when it finished, would re-boot back >>>> into normal mode. >>>> >>>> In all this, I had neglected the fact that when I enter safe >>>> mode, I have to log in again, and have to enter my password. >>>> >>>> Am I correct that there is no way that I could "bypass" that >>>> part of the process? That is, am I correct that even if I >>>> get this working correctly, I will still have to enter that >>>> password manually? >>>> >>>> Please let me know, and that will help me to decide if I >>>> should pursue this further. >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> -- >>>> Kenneth >>>> >>>> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." >>> >>>It is possible to fully automate the logon process and to force a >>>specific >>>process to run after the automatic logon process, either unconditionally >>>or >>>conditional upon the current mode (Safe Mode / Normal Mode). >>> >> >>Hi Pegasus, >> >>Thanks for that info... >> >>I will pursue this further, and very much appreciate all >>your kind help. >> >>All the best, > > Hi again, > > I remain perplexed, and despite some help from folks in a > batch file group, can't get the routine to work properly. > > If I launch the desktop shortcut, the system reboots into > Safe Mode with Networking as I wanted. > > But then, if I reboot, it boots again into Safe Mode with > Networking. > > If, instead of rebooting, I first run myboot.bat manually, > then when I do reboot, the system boots into Normal Mode. > > So, it appears that either myboot.bat is not running when > the system boots, (even though is displays in Scheduled > Tasks as "run at system startup,") or, it does run at boot, > but finds "Safe" to be true, and so keeps the system in Safe > Mode. > > Here is the current myboot.bat: > > @echo off > if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( > attrib -r -a -s -h c:\boot.ini > copy /y c:\boot.SAFE c:\boot.ini > shutdown -r -t 00 > ) else ( > attrib -r -a -s -h c:\boot.ini > copy /y c:\boot.NORM c:\boot.ini > ) > > > Can you spot the problem? > > Many thanks, > -- > Kenneth Since you now have a good understanding how the whole thing holds together, it should be easy to work out where things get off the rails. We agreed before that the file c:\boot.ini get replaced by c:\boot.norm or by c:\boot.safe. We now have this simple fact: => At boot time (any boot!) c:\boot.ini should replaced by c:\boot.norm. You must therefore check if this is the case. 1. Force a safe boot with your newly created shortcut. 2. Wait until the system has rebooted to Safe Mode. 3. Check c:\boot.ini. What does it look like? If it does not like right, you must check if and when your batch file ran. This is just as simple - modify it like so and examine c:\test.txt after the reboot: @echo off if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( attrib -r -a -s -h c:\boot.ini echo Safe boot on %date% at %time% >> c:\test.txt copy /y c:\boot.SAFE c:\boot.ini shutdown -r -t 00 ) else ( echo Normal boot on %date% at %time% >> c:\test.txt attrib -r -a -s -h c:\boot.ini copy /y c:\boot.NORM c:\boot.ini ) No magic to this one either! By the way, the -a switch in your attrib command servers no purpose whatsoever. Omit it - it only confuses the issue!
Guest Kenneth Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: BAT file to re-start in Safe Mode...? On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:03:07 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote: >We now have this simple fact: > >=> At boot time (any boot!) c:\boot.ini should replaced by c:\boot.norm. > >You must therefore check if this is the case. >1. Force a safe boot with your newly created shortcut. >2. Wait until the system has rebooted to Safe Mode. >3. Check c:\boot.ini. What does it look like? > >If it does not like right, you must check if and when your batch file ran. >This is just as simple - modify it like so and examine c:\test.txt after the >reboot: >@echo off >if /i "%1"=="Safe" ( > attrib -r -a -s -h c:\boot.ini > echo Safe boot on %date% at %time% >> c:\test.txt > copy /y c:\boot.SAFE c:\boot.ini > shutdown -r -t 00 >) else ( > echo Normal boot on %date% at %time% >> c:\test.txt > attrib -r -a -s -h c:\boot.ini > copy /y c:\boot.NORM c:\boot.ini >) > >No magic to this one either! By the way, the -a switch in your attrib >command servers no purpose whatsoever. Omit it - it only confuses the issue! > Hi again, Here are the steps I have taken and the results: I replaced the earlier myboot.bat with your modified version (with the echo statements for date and time.) I removed the "-a" from the attrib command. I launched the shortcut that starts the process. There was visible a brief flash of the command screen displaying "one file copied" and then the system rebooted into Safe Mode with Networking. After the boot completed, I checked boot.ini, and it displayed with the Safe:Network version, that is, boot.ini had been replaced by boot.safe. No date or time information ever displayed, but perhaps that was not the function of the Echo lines you had added. Next, I looked at my Scheduled tasks and in the summary I see the Name "MyBoot" (without quotes, and without the extension "bat"). Its schedule field says: "Run at system startup." Finally, I manually ran myboot, to copy boot.norm into boot.ini. I checked boot.ini, and it was the boot.norm version, so myboot had done that part of its work. I then rebooted into Normal Mode. That's the status to this point. Thanks for any further thoughts, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
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