Guest SammyBar Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Hi all, I have the following problem: I have the following share on a Windows 2003 R2 server : \\netserver2003\d Now I need to shutdown the netserver2003 server. It will be susbstituted by a new server with a new name. But I need to preserve the above mentioned share because it is used by many computers. Can Dfs do that? For a short time both server will coexists. Can I move the share to dfs transparently without clients notice the move? If this can not be done, what else do you suggest? Any hint is welcomed Thanks in advance Sammy
Guest Phillip Windell Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Re: Can I move a UNC share to DFS? "SammyBar" <sammybar@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uIjVL4lHJHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi all, > > I have the following problem: I have the following share on a Windows 2003 > R2 server > : \\netserver2003\d > Now I need to shutdown the netserver2003 server. It will be susbstituted > by a new server with a new name. But I need to preserve the above > mentioned share because it is used by many computers. > Can Dfs do that? No. > For a short time both server will coexists. ....an even bigger NO. You create a CNAME in your DNS that uses the Old Name. The CNAME then points to the A Record of the "new" Server. The CNAME and the old server cannot co-exist at the same time. What you should have done from the beginning was create a CNAME called "fileserver" or something equally generic. Access the resources with the "generic" name. If the file server ever gets replaced you just repoint the CNAME. Even if you never use the CNAME you can still use a Shortcut and then rename the Shortcut to whatever you want it to be. If the server gets replaced you just delete and recreate the Shortcut and name it back to the correct name. -- Phillip Windell http://www.wandtv.com The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. -----------------------------------------------------
Guest bubslg Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Re: Can I move a UNC share to DFS? OK, first off we're talking about DFS here. I don't know what CNAMEs have to do with DFS. Sammy, theoretically, yes you can use DFS to do what you want. However, your going to have to make some changes BEFORE you start moving things around. So the first thing you're going to need to do is set up a DFS namespace. This is where you'l probably run into your first problem. Your currently connecting to \\netserver2003\d. It's giong to be difficult for you to use the current servername in your namespace. One of the big points to DFS is getting away from directly addressing servers when connecting to shares. Essentially what your doing is setting up a share of shares. So you'll need to creat a namespace with a more generic name. So it'll be something like \ \yourdomainname\Data. Now you have a namespace, you can start linking actual data shares to that namespace. In this example the d share on netserver2003 would be linked to \\yourdomain\Data crating a new unc path \\yourdomain\Data\d. Unfortunately you will have to point all those other computers to the new DFS path. Once you have that done, you can set up dfs replication to sync \\netserver2003\d to some other location. Once that is done you should be able to turn off \ \netserver2003 and your clients will be redirected to wherever the valid link is. Bit of a pain to set up initially, but once your there makes moving data around seamless. Dean On Sep 24, 2:36 pm, "Phillip Windell" <philwind...@hotmail.com> wrote: > "SammyBar" <sammy...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:uIjVL4lHJHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > Hi all, > > > I have the following problem: I have the following share on a Windows 2003 > > R2 server > > : \\netserver2003\d > > Now I need to shutdown the netserver2003 server. It will be susbstituted > > by a new server with a new name. But I need to preserve the above > > mentioned share because it is used by many computers. > > Can Dfs do that? > > No. > > > For a short time both server will coexists. > > ...an even bigger NO. > > You create a CNAME in your DNS that uses the Old Name. The CNAME then > points to the A Record of the "new" Server. The CNAME and the old server > cannot co-exist at the same time. > > What you should have done from the beginning was create a CNAME called > "fileserver" or something equally generic. Access the resources with the > "generic" name. If the file server ever gets replaced you just repoint the > CNAME. > > Even if you never use the CNAME you can still use a Shortcut and then rename > the Shortcut to whatever you want it to be. If the server gets replaced you > just delete and recreate the Shortcut and name it back to the correct name. > > -- > Phillip Windellwww.wandtv.com > > The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, > or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. > -----------------------------------------------------
Guest Phillip Windell Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: Can I move a UNC share to DFS? "bubslg" <bubslg@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d3ae401a-4c3c-4ad4-a594-6a2b14d9c01f@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... >OK, first off we're talking about DFS here. I don't know what CNAMEs >have to do with DFS. No we are talking about replacing an old file server with a new one, and we should not be talking about DFS. DFS was only suggested as an option,...and I don't think it was a correct suggestion. The goal is to get the new server to respond to the same UNC Path the the old one resonded to in order to avoid reconfiguration on the Clients or re-training of the "humans".,...which is what the CNAME does. DFS isn't going to make that happen, and the old server is not going to be able to participate when it no longer exists. -- Phillip Windell http://www.wandtv.com
Guest bubslg Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: Can I move a UNC share to DFS? If the requirement is that both servers coexist for some period of time, I don't see any other way. DFS is the only real solution. BUT, it will require setting up the namespaces and remapping the clients ahead of time. The added benefit is once you have DFS set up, it makes any future server swaps easy. You can make one server look like another with aliases, but they can't both be up at the same time and aliasing does have other negative side effects. On Sep 25, 8:56 am, "Phillip Windell" <philwind...@hotmail.com> wrote: > "bubslg" <bub...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:d3ae401a-4c3c-4ad4-a594-6a2b14d9c01f@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > > >OK, first off we're talking about DFS here. I don't know what CNAMEs > >have to do with DFS. > > No we are talking about replacing an old file server with a new one, and we > should not be talking about DFS. DFS was only suggested as an option,....and > I don't think it was a correct suggestion. > > The goal is to get the new server to respond to the same UNC Path the the > old one resonded to in order to avoid reconfiguration on the Clients or > re-training of the "humans".,...which is what the CNAME does. DFS isn't > going to make that happen, and the old server is not going to be able to > participate when it no longer exists. > > -- > Phillip Windellwww.wandtv.com
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