Guest Meebers Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Winxp3, at bootup and after the "loading personal settings" is done, there is a 1 minute and 45 second blank screen before the desktop appears. What is the best way to find (log) what process is causing this delay? Starting in safe mode there is only a 8-10 second delay (normal??)
Guest JS Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: Start up delay Try Autoruns from the MS Windows SysInternals site: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx AutoRuns will show/list all apps/etc. that load/run when you first boot ... (the 'Boot Execute' tab), when you logon (the 'Logon' tab) and other programs that load (grouped by labeled tabs) for easy viewing. It also provides the ability to selectively allows you to stop (use with care) any program that you don't want to load. You can undo any changes you have made. Note: To get additional details on an item in the list you can't readily identify you may need to highlight the item (right click) and use the 'Search Online' option to get the details, especially useful for the more obscure items in the list. JS http://www.pagestart.com "Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message news:OqxrQvqHJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Winxp3, at bootup and after the "loading personal settings" is done, there > is a 1 minute and 45 second blank screen before the desktop appears. What > is the best way to find (log) what process is causing this delay? > Starting in safe mode there is only a 8-10 second delay (normal??) >
Guest Meebers Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: Start up delay Tx JS....will take me some time to go thru this, but very interesting. "JS" <@> wrote in message news:uA5Km7qHJHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Try Autoruns from the MS Windows SysInternals site: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx > > AutoRuns will show/list all apps/etc. that load/run when you first boot > ... > (the 'Boot Execute' tab), > when you logon (the 'Logon' tab) and other programs that load > (grouped by labeled tabs) for easy viewing. > > It also provides the ability to selectively allows you to stop > (use with care) any program that you don't want to load. > You can undo any changes you have made. > > Note: To get additional details on an item in the list you can't > readily identify you may need to highlight the item (right click) and use > the 'Search Online' option to get the details, > especially useful for the more obscure items in the list. > > JS > http://www.pagestart.com > > > "Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message > news:OqxrQvqHJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Winxp3, at bootup and after the "loading personal settings" is done, >> there is a 1 minute and 45 second blank screen before the desktop >> appears. What is the best way to find (log) what process is causing this >> delay? Starting in safe mode there is only a 8-10 second delay (normal??) >> > >
Guest Gerry Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: Start up delay What errors appear in Event Viewer? You need to post only copies of Warnings and Errors from the last boot in normal mode. Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer relating to the last boot in normal mode . No Information Reports or Duplicates please. Indicate which also appear in a previous boot. You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer. Meebers wrote: > Tx JS....will take me some time to go thru this, but very interesting. > > > "JS" <@> wrote in message > news:uA5Km7qHJHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Try Autoruns from the MS Windows SysInternals site: >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx >> >> AutoRuns will show/list all apps/etc. that load/run when you first >> boot ... >> (the 'Boot Execute' tab), >> when you logon (the 'Logon' tab) and other programs that load >> (grouped by labeled tabs) for easy viewing. >> >> It also provides the ability to selectively allows you to stop >> (use with care) any program that you don't want to load. >> You can undo any changes you have made. >> >> Note: To get additional details on an item in the list you can't >> readily identify you may need to highlight the item (right click) >> and use the 'Search Online' option to get the details, >> especially useful for the more obscure items in the list. >> >> JS >> http://www.pagestart.com >> >> >> "Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message >> news:OqxrQvqHJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Winxp3, at bootup and after the "loading personal settings" is done, >>> there is a 1 minute and 45 second blank screen before the desktop >>> appears. What is the best way to find (log) what process is >>> causing this delay? Starting in safe mode there is only a 8-10 >>> second delay (normal??)
Guest ju.c Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: Start up delay Most likely, your icon cache is corrupt, you can rebuild it either automatically by installing Iconoid or manually using TweakUI (install, open, under "Repair" select "Rebuild Icons" and click the "Repair Now" button. Iconoid 3.8.5 602 KB Freeware Info: http://www.sillysot.com/download.htm Download: http://www.sillysot.com/iconoid.zip Quote/ What is Iconoid? - Save and Restore Icon positions for each (or every) screen resolution - Transparent icon backgrounds or use any color - Select any color for icon text - Automatically hide icons when you don't need them and show them when you do - Automatically or manually select the best color for the text background - Quickly minimize all windows so that you can see your desktop wallpaper. - See the help files (which include screen shots) for even more information. /Quote or Tweak UI 2.10 147 KB Freeware Info: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx Download: http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/c/a/fca6767b-9ed9-45a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe "/ This PowerToy gives you access to system settings that are not exposed in the Windows XP default user interface, including mouse settings, Explorer settings, taskbar settings, and more. Requires Windows XP Service Pack 1 or Windows Server 2003. /" ju.c "Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message news:OqxrQvqHJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Winxp3, at bootup and after the "loading personal settings" is done, there > is a 1 minute and 45 second blank screen before the desktop appears. What > is the best way to find (log) what process is causing this delay? Starting > in safe mode there is only a 8-10 second delay (normal??) > >
Guest JS Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: Start up delay You're welcome. It's a powerful tool so use with care. Research what you want to stop from loading as killing/stopping the wrong one could make for a grand headache. JS "Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message news:%23GQoeBrHJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Tx JS....will take me some time to go thru this, but very interesting. > > > "JS" <@> wrote in message news:uA5Km7qHJHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Try Autoruns from the MS Windows SysInternals site: >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx >> >> AutoRuns will show/list all apps/etc. that load/run when you first boot >> ... >> (the 'Boot Execute' tab), >> when you logon (the 'Logon' tab) and other programs that load >> (grouped by labeled tabs) for easy viewing. >> >> It also provides the ability to selectively allows you to stop >> (use with care) any program that you don't want to load. >> You can undo any changes you have made. >> >> Note: To get additional details on an item in the list you can't >> readily identify you may need to highlight the item (right click) and use >> the 'Search Online' option to get the details, >> especially useful for the more obscure items in the list. >> >> JS >> http://www.pagestart.com >> >> >> "Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message >> news:OqxrQvqHJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Winxp3, at bootup and after the "loading personal settings" is done, >>> there is a 1 minute and 45 second blank screen before the desktop >>> appears. What is the best way to find (log) what process is causing >>> this delay? Starting in safe mode there is only a 8-10 second delay >>> (normal??) >>> >> >> > >
Guest Meebers Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: Start up delay Gerry...here is what I got. Nothing in the Application area at all but in the system there are two events (errors) that are there at boot up time for the last several days. The HP CUE error I will try a remove and re-install of the printer software, no clue on SessionLauncher, google says Roxio.. Event Type: Error Event Source: Service Control Manager Event Category: None Event ID: 7000 Date: 9/25/2008 Time: 7:03:35 PM User: N/A Computer: WINXPMEDIA Description: The SessionLauncher service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the path specified. Event Type: Error Event Source: Service Control Manager Event Category: None Event ID: 7022 Date: 9/25/2008 Time: 7:04:56 PM User: N/A Computer: WINXPMEDIA Description: The HP CUE DeviceDiscovery Service service hung on starting. "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:%23krQE$tHJHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > What errors appear in Event Viewer? You need to post only copies of > Warnings and Errors from the last boot > in normal mode. > > Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in the > System and Application logs in Event Viewer relating to the last boot in > normal mode . No Information Reports or Duplicates please. Indicate > which also appear in a previous boot. > > You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel, > Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning > of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description > are important. > > A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double > click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a > button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event > Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of > the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from > Event Viewer. > > Meebers wrote: >> Tx JS....will take me some time to go thru this, but very interesting. >> >> >> "JS" <@> wrote in message >> news:uA5Km7qHJHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Try Autoruns from the MS Windows SysInternals site: >>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx >>> >>> AutoRuns will show/list all apps/etc. that load/run when you first >>> boot ... >>> (the 'Boot Execute' tab), >>> when you logon (the 'Logon' tab) and other programs that load >>> (grouped by labeled tabs) for easy viewing. >>> >>> It also provides the ability to selectively allows you to stop >>> (use with care) any program that you don't want to load. >>> You can undo any changes you have made. >>> >>> Note: To get additional details on an item in the list you can't >>> readily identify you may need to highlight the item (right click) >>> and use the 'Search Online' option to get the details, >>> especially useful for the more obscure items in the list. >>> >>> JS >>> http://www.pagestart.com >>> >>> >>> "Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message >>> news:OqxrQvqHJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Winxp3, at bootup and after the "loading personal settings" is done, >>>> there is a 1 minute and 45 second blank screen before the desktop >>>> appears. What is the best way to find (log) what process is >>>> causing this delay? Starting in safe mode there is only a 8-10 >>>> second delay (normal??) > >
Guest Meebers Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 Re: Start up delay Tx for the suggestion on Icon rebuild. I used TweakUI, did the rebuild, but got the same results "ju.c" <bibidybubidyboop@mailnator.com> wrote in message news:%23iGg43uHJHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Most likely, your icon cache is corrupt, you can rebuild it either > automatically by installing Iconoid or manually using TweakUI > (install, open, under "Repair" select "Rebuild Icons" and click > the "Repair Now" button. > > > Iconoid 3.8.5 602 KB Freeware > Info: http://www.sillysot.com/download.htm > Download: http://www.sillysot.com/iconoid.zip > > Quote/ > What is Iconoid? > > - Save and Restore Icon positions for each (or every) screen > resolution > - Transparent icon backgrounds or use any color > - Select any color for icon text > - Automatically hide icons when you don't need them and > show them when you do > - Automatically or manually select the best color for the text > background > - Quickly minimize all windows so that you can see your > desktop wallpaper. > - See the help files (which include screen shots) for even > more information. > /Quote > > or > > Tweak UI 2.10 147 KB Freeware > Info: > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx > Download: > http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/c/a/fca6767b-9ed9-45a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe > > "/ > This PowerToy gives you access to system settings that are > not exposed in the Windows XP default user interface, > including mouse settings, Explorer settings, taskbar settings, > and more. > Requires Windows XP Service Pack 1 or Windows Server 2003. > /" > > > ju.c > > > "Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message > news:OqxrQvqHJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Winxp3, at bootup and after the "loading personal settings" is done, >> there is a 1 minute and 45 second blank screen before the desktop >> appears. What is the best way to find (log) what process is causing this >> delay? Starting in safe mode there is only a 8-10 second delay >> (normal??)
Guest ju.c Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 Re: Start up delay Too bad, that was an easy fix. You'll need to enable boot logging and examine the C:\WINDOWS\ntbtlog.txt file. How To Enable Boot Logging For Fixing Startup Problems in Windows http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-enable-boot-logging-for-fixing-startup-problems-in-windows.html A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222 ju.c "Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message news:#MMZc32HJHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Tx for the suggestion on Icon rebuild. I used TweakUI, did the rebuild, but > got the same results > > "ju.c" <bibidybubidyboop@mailnator.com> wrote in message > news:%23iGg43uHJHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Most likely, your icon cache is corrupt, you can rebuild it either >> automatically by installing Iconoid or manually using TweakUI >> (install, open, under "Repair" select "Rebuild Icons" and click >> the "Repair Now" button. >> >> >> Iconoid 3.8.5 602 KB Freeware >> Info: http://www.sillysot.com/download.htm >> Download: http://www.sillysot.com/iconoid.zip >> >> Quote/ >> What is Iconoid? >> >> - Save and Restore Icon positions for each (or every) screen >> resolution >> - Transparent icon backgrounds or use any color >> - Select any color for icon text >> - Automatically hide icons when you don't need them and >> show them when you do >> - Automatically or manually select the best color for the text >> background >> - Quickly minimize all windows so that you can see your >> desktop wallpaper. >> - See the help files (which include screen shots) for even >> more information. >> /Quote >> >> or >> >> Tweak UI 2.10 147 KB Freeware >> Info: >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx >> Download: >> http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/c/a/fca6767b-9ed9-45a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe >> >> "/ >> This PowerToy gives you access to system settings that are >> not exposed in the Windows XP default user interface, >> including mouse settings, Explorer settings, taskbar settings, >> and more. >> Requires Windows XP Service Pack 1 or Windows Server 2003. >> /" >> >> >> ju.c >> >> >> "Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message >> news:OqxrQvqHJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Winxp3, at bootup and after the "loading personal settings" is done, >>> there is a 1 minute and 45 second blank screen before the desktop >>> appears. What is the best way to find (log) what process is causing this >>> delay? Starting in safe mode there is only a 8-10 second delay >>> (normal??) > >
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