WMP9 beta

[Guest Arturo Seis]

It was some years ago now I made a joke when talking with Noel, here, on the

subject of WMP series 9 beta, about having ripped Surrealistic Pillow which

was being reported as 1000x larger than it was. I said something like not

realizing I'd actually downloaded the band itself! The implication being,

of course, the code of a Human being in the multi-gigabytes. Well now we

have thousand gigabyte HDDs that fit the same bay as back then could

(probably) only hold about 60.

 

I only have 160G available (2 of them in a RAID 1 array) though this is

plenty for my purposes - more than half of that space is dedicated for

backup images (which are themselves duplicated in RAID 1) - and though I

have XP in a 12G partition, it'll exist in a 4G one and quite comfortably in

a 6G one (despite the claims of Microsoft - which they came out with for ME

also - that the best disk configuration is to have the entire disk as one

big C: drive).

 

I still use PowerQuest DriveImage 2002. I have other - PATA - disks, which

most of the time are not enabled in the bios, and what other OSes are

installed to and, while DriveImage 2002 won't run from Vista/Server2008 - or

anyway the x64 versions - it will certainly back them up fine run from the

earlier OSes it does work in.

 

The main issue with DI2002 is that to image the OS it's running from (or

restore from DOS) it reboots and runs in Caldera DOS (not that the flavour

of DOS matters), which means it doesn't complete when required to operate

beyond 137G. The error it throws up refers to the image location being

full - which is kind of right; even if said location has twice as much free

space as the image requires, if the 137G boundary is crossed less than half

way into that space, the image write fails. If the Backup location (and

drive to be imaged) is entirely within the first 137G there is no problem.

 

Anyhow, the first music I was *really* aware of, such that I have never

forgotten it (that is, to *forget* being to have forgotten the organic file

path to the memory - it would still be there, just buried) was "The Last

Time", "It's All Over Now", "19th Nervous Breakdown", "Stoned Love", "Baby

Love", "You Really got Me", "All Day and All of the Night", "Reach Out

(I'll Be There)", "Ball Of Confusion", "Tears Of A Clown", "Woodstock"

(Matthews Southern Comfort's version), "Big Yellow Taxi", "What Do You Get

When You Fall In Love", "Last Train to Clarksville". Obviously I could go

on. That's the thing: it is almost endless!

 

You hear these tunes again and it all comes back, i.e. you are *not* hearing

them as though for the first time: you are re-discovering the long lost file

path to what is potentially a note-for-note copy in your memory - in my case

about 40-45 years old! And I have currently about 8G - well over 1200 tracks

worth - of computer disk space storing singles from my lifetime (and

before - after all Buddy Holly snuffed it before I was born; but not a great

many from the last 10/15 years, I'm afraid!). I have also virtually

re-acquired the albums I used to have and along with music CDs ripped to the

computer it all comes to about 30G. And the point is that *all* of that

music was in my head all of the time! And those are just the music memories.

What about the memories the music triggers?

 

I vaguely remember seeing the view of the balcony, on the news, when the

assassination of Martin Luther King was announced.

 

I remember watching (the recording of) the Moon Landing (in the assembly

hall at school the next day). On a black and white telly of course.

 

And though it may be that these are composite images that *symbolise* the

memories, nonetheless the entire perceived experience may still be there,

intact, buried under a mountain of other superfluous archiving. Several

gigabytes-worth of recordings of one brief period is précised into a single

representation that imparts the flavour of the experience, the pertinent

aspects of it, in an instant. Which is what symbolism is. And symbolism is,

incidentally, I believe, what Emotion is. A kind of translation of the

machine code of the brain into the visceral feeling that compels us to act;

that all mental activity has a value on some sliding emotional scale. That

like synaesthesia, it is the same stimuli, through a different filter.

 

Machine Code is what the Central Nervous System works in. It is not so much

*Unconscious* as unrecognised and so disregarded by the Conscious Mind. You

can see it - like White Noise - if you try. And you can see something of

it's pattern-recognition nature when under the influence of psychedelic

drugs.

 

The brain converts this basic data into symbols (Assembly) representing

concepts, and of which our Conscious thought is composed.

 

Many believe that we are entirely unconsciously-driven, while those who

think they must be crazy simply do not understand. We are at least *largely*

unconsciously-driven; but the Mind is a feedback mechanism. However, it

takes pretty much a whole lifetime to acquire wisdom and thus to know, not

just why others do what they do and why societies do what they do, but why

we make excuses to ourselves when we are young, to justify doing what we've

absorbed to be 'wrong' or to hide from ourselves what looks the Truth, but

which scares us to contemplate, and how we forget that these were (rumours

and lies and) stories we made up and adopt a world view in which *they* are

truths, and spend a lifetime justifying decisions apparently based on them.

There does not seem to be a quick version of acquiring this wisdom; it is

more like a revelation or series of revelations reached at progressively

later stages of life, rather as we are unable to conceive of individuals

entirely outside of our own selves until about 5 years old. Like to some

extent the shoulders of the giants we stand on are our own.

 

But what use is it to become wise on or approaching our death bed when

no-one listens to us anymore? When they will keep making the same mistakes

living lives of greed, jealousy, selfishness and the rest, while pretending

to be essentially above reproach? And can Windows ME be reconfigured to

obviate this?

 

 

Arturo

[Guest webster72n]

Re: WMP9 beta

 

 

"Arturo Seis" <sixpencedearturo@googlemail.com> wrote in message

news:%23$489wuHJHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> It was some years ago now I made a joke when talking with Noel, here, on

the

> subject of WMP series 9 beta, about having ripped Surrealistic Pillow

which

> was being reported as 1000x larger than it was. I said something like not

> realizing I'd actually downloaded the band itself! The implication being,

> of course, the code of a Human being in the multi-gigabytes. Well now we

> have thousand gigabyte HDDs that fit the same bay as back then could

> (probably) only hold about 60.

>

> I only have 160G available (2 of them in a RAID 1 array) though this is

> plenty for my purposes - more than half of that space is dedicated for

> backup images (which are themselves duplicated in RAID 1) - and though I

> have XP in a 12G partition, it'll exist in a 4G one and quite comfortably

in

> a 6G one (despite the claims of Microsoft - which they came out with for

ME

> also - that the best disk configuration is to have the entire disk as one

> big C: drive).

>

> I still use PowerQuest DriveImage 2002. I have other - PATA - disks, which

> most of the time are not enabled in the bios, and what other OSes are

> installed to and, while DriveImage 2002 won't run from Vista/Server2008 -

or

> anyway the x64 versions - it will certainly back them up fine run from the

> earlier OSes it does work in.

>

> The main issue with DI2002 is that to image the OS it's running from (or

> restore from DOS) it reboots and runs in Caldera DOS (not that the flavour

> of DOS matters), which means it doesn't complete when required to operate

> beyond 137G. The error it throws up refers to the image location being

> full - which is kind of right; even if said location has twice as much

free

> space as the image requires, if the 137G boundary is crossed less than

half

> way into that space, the image write fails. If the Backup location (and

> drive to be imaged) is entirely within the first 137G there is no problem.

>

> Anyhow, the first music I was *really* aware of, such that I have never

> forgotten it (that is, to *forget* being to have forgotten the organic

file

> path to the memory - it would still be there, just buried) was "The Last

> Time", "It's All Over Now", "19th Nervous Breakdown", "Stoned Love", "Baby

> Love", "You Really got Me", "All Day and All of the Night", "Reach Out

> (I'll Be There)", "Ball Of Confusion", "Tears Of A Clown", "Woodstock"

> (Matthews Southern Comfort's version), "Big Yellow Taxi", "What Do You Get

> When You Fall In Love", "Last Train to Clarksville". Obviously I could go

> on. That's the thing: it is almost endless!

>

> You hear these tunes again and it all comes back, i.e. you are *not*

hearing

> them as though for the first time: you are re-discovering the long lost

file

> path to what is potentially a note-for-note copy in your memory - in my

case

> about 40-45 years old! And I have currently about 8G - well over 1200

tracks

> worth - of computer disk space storing singles from my lifetime (and

> before - after all Buddy Holly snuffed it before I was born; but not a

great

> many from the last 10/15 years, I'm afraid!). I have also virtually

> re-acquired the albums I used to have and along with music CDs ripped to

the

> computer it all comes to about 30G. And the point is that *all* of that

> music was in my head all of the time! And those are just the music

memories.

> What about the memories the music triggers?

>

> I vaguely remember seeing the view of the balcony, on the news, when the

> assassination of Martin Luther King was announced.

>

> I remember watching (the recording of) the Moon Landing (in the assembly

> hall at school the next day). On a black and white telly of course.

>

> And though it may be that these are composite images that *symbolise* the

> memories, nonetheless the entire perceived experience may still be there,

> intact, buried under a mountain of other superfluous archiving. Several

> gigabytes-worth of recordings of one brief period is précised into a

single

> representation that imparts the flavour of the experience, the pertinent

> aspects of it, in an instant. Which is what symbolism is. And symbolism

is,

> incidentally, I believe, what Emotion is. A kind of translation of the

> machine code of the brain into the visceral feeling that compels us to

act;

> that all mental activity has a value on some sliding emotional scale. That

> like synaesthesia, it is the same stimuli, through a different filter.

>

> Machine Code is what the Central Nervous System works in. It is not so

much

> *Unconscious* as unrecognised and so disregarded by the Conscious Mind.

You

> can see it - like White Noise - if you try. And you can see something of

> it's pattern-recognition nature when under the influence of psychedelic

> drugs.

>

> The brain converts this basic data into symbols (Assembly) representing

> concepts, and of which our Conscious thought is composed.

>

> Many believe that we are entirely unconsciously-driven, while those who

> think they must be crazy simply do not understand. We are at least

*largely*

> unconsciously-driven; but the Mind is a feedback mechanism. However, it

> takes pretty much a whole lifetime to acquire wisdom and thus to know, not

> just why others do what they do and why societies do what they do, but why

> we make excuses to ourselves when we are young, to justify doing what

we've

> absorbed to be 'wrong' or to hide from ourselves what looks the Truth, but

> which scares us to contemplate, and how we forget that these were (rumours

> and lies and) stories we made up and adopt a world view in which *they*

are

> truths, and spend a lifetime justifying decisions apparently based on

them.

> There does not seem to be a quick version of acquiring this wisdom; it is

> more like a revelation or series of revelations reached at progressively

> later stages of life, rather as we are unable to conceive of individuals

> entirely outside of our own selves until about 5 years old. Like to some

> extent the shoulders of the giants we stand on are our own.

>

> But what use is it to become wise on or approaching our death bed when

> no-one listens to us anymore? When they will keep making the same mistakes

> living lives of greed, jealousy, selfishness and the rest, while

pretending

> to be essentially above reproach? And can Windows ME be reconfigured to

> obviate this?

 

There's no doubt it could be, but mighty slim chance that it would be,

unless you'd give it a try. I stand ready to help, 'Arturo', as one of a

'Last of the Mohicans'.

 

Harry.

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[Guest Corday]

Re: WMP9 beta

 

Look out Arturo, ASCAP and BMI will be visiting you shortly for their

royalties.

--

I mastered Wordstar graphics!

 

 

"webster72n" wrote:

>

> "Arturo Seis" <sixpencedearturo@googlemail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23$489wuHJHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > It was some years ago now I made a joke when talking with Noel, here, on

> the

> > subject of WMP series 9 beta, about having ripped Surrealistic Pillow

> which

> > was being reported as 1000x larger than it was. I said something like not

> > realizing I'd actually downloaded the band itself! The implication being,

> > of course, the code of a Human being in the multi-gigabytes. Well now we

> > have thousand gigabyte HDDs that fit the same bay as back then could

> > (probably) only hold about 60.

> >

> > I only have 160G available (2 of them in a RAID 1 array) though this is

> > plenty for my purposes - more than half of that space is dedicated for

> > backup images (which are themselves duplicated in RAID 1) - and though I

> > have XP in a 12G partition, it'll exist in a 4G one and quite comfortably

> in

> > a 6G one (despite the claims of Microsoft - which they came out with for

> ME

> > also - that the best disk configuration is to have the entire disk as one

> > big C: drive).

> >

> > I still use PowerQuest DriveImage 2002. I have other - PATA - disks, which

> > most of the time are not enabled in the bios, and what other OSes are

> > installed to and, while DriveImage 2002 won't run from Vista/Server2008 -

> or

> > anyway the x64 versions - it will certainly back them up fine run from the

> > earlier OSes it does work in.

> >

> > The main issue with DI2002 is that to image the OS it's running from (or

> > restore from DOS) it reboots and runs in Caldera DOS (not that the flavour

> > of DOS matters), which means it doesn't complete when required to operate

> > beyond 137G. The error it throws up refers to the image location being

> > full - which is kind of right; even if said location has twice as much

> free

> > space as the image requires, if the 137G boundary is crossed less than

> half

> > way into that space, the image write fails. If the Backup location (and

> > drive to be imaged) is entirely within the first 137G there is no problem.

> >

> > Anyhow, the first music I was *really* aware of, such that I have never

> > forgotten it (that is, to *forget* being to have forgotten the organic

> file

> > path to the memory - it would still be there, just buried) was "The Last

> > Time", "It's All Over Now", "19th Nervous Breakdown", "Stoned Love", "Baby

> > Love", "You Really got Me", "All Day and All of the Night", "Reach Out

> > (I'll Be There)", "Ball Of Confusion", "Tears Of A Clown", "Woodstock"

> > (Matthews Southern Comfort's version), "Big Yellow Taxi", "What Do You Get

> > When You Fall In Love", "Last Train to Clarksville". Obviously I could go

> > on. That's the thing: it is almost endless!

> >

> > You hear these tunes again and it all comes back, i.e. you are *not*

> hearing

> > them as though for the first time: you are re-discovering the long lost

> file

> > path to what is potentially a note-for-note copy in your memory - in my

> case

> > about 40-45 years old! And I have currently about 8G - well over 1200

> tracks

> > worth - of computer disk space storing singles from my lifetime (and

> > before - after all Buddy Holly snuffed it before I was born; but not a

> great

> > many from the last 10/15 years, I'm afraid!). I have also virtually

> > re-acquired the albums I used to have and along with music CDs ripped to

> the

> > computer it all comes to about 30G. And the point is that *all* of that

> > music was in my head all of the time! And those are just the music

> memories.

> > What about the memories the music triggers?

> >

> > I vaguely remember seeing the view of the balcony, on the news, when the

> > assassination of Martin Luther King was announced.

> >

> > I remember watching (the recording of) the Moon Landing (in the assembly

> > hall at school the next day). On a black and white telly of course.

> >

> > And though it may be that these are composite images that *symbolise* the

> > memories, nonetheless the entire perceived experience may still be there,

> > intact, buried under a mountain of other superfluous archiving. Several

> > gigabytes-worth of recordings of one brief period is précised into a

> single

> > representation that imparts the flavour of the experience, the pertinent

> > aspects of it, in an instant. Which is what symbolism is. And symbolism

> is,

> > incidentally, I believe, what Emotion is. A kind of translation of the

> > machine code of the brain into the visceral feeling that compels us to

> act;

> > that all mental activity has a value on some sliding emotional scale. That

> > like synaesthesia, it is the same stimuli, through a different filter.

> >

> > Machine Code is what the Central Nervous System works in. It is not so

> much

> > *Unconscious* as unrecognised and so disregarded by the Conscious Mind.

> You

> > can see it - like White Noise - if you try. And you can see something of

> > it's pattern-recognition nature when under the influence of psychedelic

> > drugs.

> >

> > The brain converts this basic data into symbols (Assembly) representing

> > concepts, and of which our Conscious thought is composed.

> >

> > Many believe that we are entirely unconsciously-driven, while those who

> > think they must be crazy simply do not understand. We are at least

> *largely*

> > unconsciously-driven; but the Mind is a feedback mechanism. However, it

> > takes pretty much a whole lifetime to acquire wisdom and thus to know, not

> > just why others do what they do and why societies do what they do, but why

> > we make excuses to ourselves when we are young, to justify doing what

> we've

> > absorbed to be 'wrong' or to hide from ourselves what looks the Truth, but

> > which scares us to contemplate, and how we forget that these were (rumours

> > and lies and) stories we made up and adopt a world view in which *they*

> are

> > truths, and spend a lifetime justifying decisions apparently based on

> them.

> > There does not seem to be a quick version of acquiring this wisdom; it is

> > more like a revelation or series of revelations reached at progressively

> > later stages of life, rather as we are unable to conceive of individuals

> > entirely outside of our own selves until about 5 years old. Like to some

> > extent the shoulders of the giants we stand on are our own.

> >

> > But what use is it to become wise on or approaching our death bed when

> > no-one listens to us anymore? When they will keep making the same mistakes

> > living lives of greed, jealousy, selfishness and the rest, while

> pretending

> > to be essentially above reproach? And can Windows ME be reconfigured to

> > obviate this?

>

> There's no doubt it could be, but mighty slim chance that it would be,

> unless you'd give it a try. I stand ready to help, 'Arturo', as one of a

> 'Last of the Mohicans'.

>

> Harry.

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> > Arturo

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[Guest Arturo Seis]

Re: WMP9 beta

 

 

"Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message

news:D2557A12-F862-4E52-BE87-15EC421955DD@microsoft.com...

> Look out Arturo, ASCAP and BMI will be visiting you shortly for their

> royalties.

 

That'll be fun!

 

Arturo