Guest Arturo Seis Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 It was some years ago now I made a joke when talking with Noel, here, on the subject of WMP series 9 beta, about having ripped Surrealistic Pillow which was being reported as 1000x larger than it was. I said something like not realizing I'd actually downloaded the band itself! The implication being, of course, the code of a Human being in the multi-gigabytes. Well now we have thousand gigabyte HDDs that fit the same bay as back then could (probably) only hold about 60. I only have 160G available (2 of them in a RAID 1 array) though this is plenty for my purposes - more than half of that space is dedicated for backup images (which are themselves duplicated in RAID 1) - and though I have XP in a 12G partition, it'll exist in a 4G one and quite comfortably in a 6G one (despite the claims of Microsoft - which they came out with for ME also - that the best disk configuration is to have the entire disk as one big C: drive). I still use PowerQuest DriveImage 2002. I have other - PATA - disks, which most of the time are not enabled in the bios, and what other OSes are installed to and, while DriveImage 2002 won't run from Vista/Server2008 - or anyway the x64 versions - it will certainly back them up fine run from the earlier OSes it does work in. The main issue with DI2002 is that to image the OS it's running from (or restore from DOS) it reboots and runs in Caldera DOS (not that the flavour of DOS matters), which means it doesn't complete when required to operate beyond 137G. The error it throws up refers to the image location being full - which is kind of right; even if said location has twice as much free space as the image requires, if the 137G boundary is crossed less than half way into that space, the image write fails. If the Backup location (and drive to be imaged) is entirely within the first 137G there is no problem. Anyhow, the first music I was *really* aware of, such that I have never forgotten it (that is, to *forget* being to have forgotten the organic file path to the memory - it would still be there, just buried) was "The Last Time", "It's All Over Now", "19th Nervous Breakdown", "Stoned Love", "Baby Love", "You Really got Me", "All Day and All of the Night", "Reach Out (I'll Be There)", "Ball Of Confusion", "Tears Of A Clown", "Woodstock" (Matthews Southern Comfort's version), "Big Yellow Taxi", "What Do You Get When You Fall In Love", "Last Train to Clarksville". Obviously I could go on. That's the thing: it is almost endless! You hear these tunes again and it all comes back, i.e. you are *not* hearing them as though for the first time: you are re-discovering the long lost file path to what is potentially a note-for-note copy in your memory - in my case about 40-45 years old! And I have currently about 8G - well over 1200 tracks worth - of computer disk space storing singles from my lifetime (and before - after all Buddy Holly snuffed it before I was born; but not a great many from the last 10/15 years, I'm afraid!). I have also virtually re-acquired the albums I used to have and along with music CDs ripped to the computer it all comes to about 30G. And the point is that *all* of that music was in my head all of the time! And those are just the music memories. What about the memories the music triggers? I vaguely remember seeing the view of the balcony, on the news, when the assassination of Martin Luther King was announced. I remember watching (the recording of) the Moon Landing (in the assembly hall at school the next day). On a black and white telly of course. And though it may be that these are composite images that *symbolise* the memories, nonetheless the entire perceived experience may still be there, intact, buried under a mountain of other superfluous archiving. Several gigabytes-worth of recordings of one brief period is précised into a single representation that imparts the flavour of the experience, the pertinent aspects of it, in an instant. Which is what symbolism is. And symbolism is, incidentally, I believe, what Emotion is. A kind of translation of the machine code of the brain into the visceral feeling that compels us to act; that all mental activity has a value on some sliding emotional scale. That like synaesthesia, it is the same stimuli, through a different filter. Machine Code is what the Central Nervous System works in. It is not so much *Unconscious* as unrecognised and so disregarded by the Conscious Mind. You can see it - like White Noise - if you try. And you can see something of it's pattern-recognition nature when under the influence of psychedelic drugs. The brain converts this basic data into symbols (Assembly) representing concepts, and of which our Conscious thought is composed. Many believe that we are entirely unconsciously-driven, while those who think they must be crazy simply do not understand. We are at least *largely* unconsciously-driven; but the Mind is a feedback mechanism. However, it takes pretty much a whole lifetime to acquire wisdom and thus to know, not just why others do what they do and why societies do what they do, but why we make excuses to ourselves when we are young, to justify doing what we've absorbed to be 'wrong' or to hide from ourselves what looks the Truth, but which scares us to contemplate, and how we forget that these were (rumours and lies and) stories we made up and adopt a world view in which *they* are truths, and spend a lifetime justifying decisions apparently based on them. There does not seem to be a quick version of acquiring this wisdom; it is more like a revelation or series of revelations reached at progressively later stages of life, rather as we are unable to conceive of individuals entirely outside of our own selves until about 5 years old. Like to some extent the shoulders of the giants we stand on are our own. But what use is it to become wise on or approaching our death bed when no-one listens to us anymore? When they will keep making the same mistakes living lives of greed, jealousy, selfishness and the rest, while pretending to be essentially above reproach? And can Windows ME be reconfigured to obviate this? Arturo
Guest webster72n Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: WMP9 beta "Arturo Seis" <sixpencedearturo@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:%23$489wuHJHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > It was some years ago now I made a joke when talking with Noel, here, on the > subject of WMP series 9 beta, about having ripped Surrealistic Pillow which > was being reported as 1000x larger than it was. I said something like not > realizing I'd actually downloaded the band itself! The implication being, > of course, the code of a Human being in the multi-gigabytes. Well now we > have thousand gigabyte HDDs that fit the same bay as back then could > (probably) only hold about 60. > > I only have 160G available (2 of them in a RAID 1 array) though this is > plenty for my purposes - more than half of that space is dedicated for > backup images (which are themselves duplicated in RAID 1) - and though I > have XP in a 12G partition, it'll exist in a 4G one and quite comfortably in > a 6G one (despite the claims of Microsoft - which they came out with for ME > also - that the best disk configuration is to have the entire disk as one > big C: drive). > > I still use PowerQuest DriveImage 2002. I have other - PATA - disks, which > most of the time are not enabled in the bios, and what other OSes are > installed to and, while DriveImage 2002 won't run from Vista/Server2008 - or > anyway the x64 versions - it will certainly back them up fine run from the > earlier OSes it does work in. > > The main issue with DI2002 is that to image the OS it's running from (or > restore from DOS) it reboots and runs in Caldera DOS (not that the flavour > of DOS matters), which means it doesn't complete when required to operate > beyond 137G. The error it throws up refers to the image location being > full - which is kind of right; even if said location has twice as much free > space as the image requires, if the 137G boundary is crossed less than half > way into that space, the image write fails. If the Backup location (and > drive to be imaged) is entirely within the first 137G there is no problem. > > Anyhow, the first music I was *really* aware of, such that I have never > forgotten it (that is, to *forget* being to have forgotten the organic file > path to the memory - it would still be there, just buried) was "The Last > Time", "It's All Over Now", "19th Nervous Breakdown", "Stoned Love", "Baby > Love", "You Really got Me", "All Day and All of the Night", "Reach Out > (I'll Be There)", "Ball Of Confusion", "Tears Of A Clown", "Woodstock" > (Matthews Southern Comfort's version), "Big Yellow Taxi", "What Do You Get > When You Fall In Love", "Last Train to Clarksville". Obviously I could go > on. That's the thing: it is almost endless! > > You hear these tunes again and it all comes back, i.e. you are *not* hearing > them as though for the first time: you are re-discovering the long lost file > path to what is potentially a note-for-note copy in your memory - in my case > about 40-45 years old! And I have currently about 8G - well over 1200 tracks > worth - of computer disk space storing singles from my lifetime (and > before - after all Buddy Holly snuffed it before I was born; but not a great > many from the last 10/15 years, I'm afraid!). I have also virtually > re-acquired the albums I used to have and along with music CDs ripped to the > computer it all comes to about 30G. And the point is that *all* of that > music was in my head all of the time! And those are just the music memories. > What about the memories the music triggers? > > I vaguely remember seeing the view of the balcony, on the news, when the > assassination of Martin Luther King was announced. > > I remember watching (the recording of) the Moon Landing (in the assembly > hall at school the next day). On a black and white telly of course. > > And though it may be that these are composite images that *symbolise* the > memories, nonetheless the entire perceived experience may still be there, > intact, buried under a mountain of other superfluous archiving. Several > gigabytes-worth of recordings of one brief period is précised into a single > representation that imparts the flavour of the experience, the pertinent > aspects of it, in an instant. Which is what symbolism is. And symbolism is, > incidentally, I believe, what Emotion is. A kind of translation of the > machine code of the brain into the visceral feeling that compels us to act; > that all mental activity has a value on some sliding emotional scale. That > like synaesthesia, it is the same stimuli, through a different filter. > > Machine Code is what the Central Nervous System works in. It is not so much > *Unconscious* as unrecognised and so disregarded by the Conscious Mind. You > can see it - like White Noise - if you try. And you can see something of > it's pattern-recognition nature when under the influence of psychedelic > drugs. > > The brain converts this basic data into symbols (Assembly) representing > concepts, and of which our Conscious thought is composed. > > Many believe that we are entirely unconsciously-driven, while those who > think they must be crazy simply do not understand. We are at least *largely* > unconsciously-driven; but the Mind is a feedback mechanism. However, it > takes pretty much a whole lifetime to acquire wisdom and thus to know, not > just why others do what they do and why societies do what they do, but why > we make excuses to ourselves when we are young, to justify doing what we've > absorbed to be 'wrong' or to hide from ourselves what looks the Truth, but > which scares us to contemplate, and how we forget that these were (rumours > and lies and) stories we made up and adopt a world view in which *they* are > truths, and spend a lifetime justifying decisions apparently based on them. > There does not seem to be a quick version of acquiring this wisdom; it is > more like a revelation or series of revelations reached at progressively > later stages of life, rather as we are unable to conceive of individuals > entirely outside of our own selves until about 5 years old. Like to some > extent the shoulders of the giants we stand on are our own. > > But what use is it to become wise on or approaching our death bed when > no-one listens to us anymore? When they will keep making the same mistakes > living lives of greed, jealousy, selfishness and the rest, while pretending > to be essentially above reproach? And can Windows ME be reconfigured to > obviate this? There's no doubt it could be, but mighty slim chance that it would be, unless you'd give it a try. I stand ready to help, 'Arturo', as one of a 'Last of the Mohicans'. Harry. > > > Arturo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest Corday Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Re: WMP9 beta Look out Arturo, ASCAP and BMI will be visiting you shortly for their royalties. -- I mastered Wordstar graphics! "webster72n" wrote: > > "Arturo Seis" <sixpencedearturo@googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:%23$489wuHJHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > It was some years ago now I made a joke when talking with Noel, here, on > the > > subject of WMP series 9 beta, about having ripped Surrealistic Pillow > which > > was being reported as 1000x larger than it was. I said something like not > > realizing I'd actually downloaded the band itself! The implication being, > > of course, the code of a Human being in the multi-gigabytes. Well now we > > have thousand gigabyte HDDs that fit the same bay as back then could > > (probably) only hold about 60. > > > > I only have 160G available (2 of them in a RAID 1 array) though this is > > plenty for my purposes - more than half of that space is dedicated for > > backup images (which are themselves duplicated in RAID 1) - and though I > > have XP in a 12G partition, it'll exist in a 4G one and quite comfortably > in > > a 6G one (despite the claims of Microsoft - which they came out with for > ME > > also - that the best disk configuration is to have the entire disk as one > > big C: drive). > > > > I still use PowerQuest DriveImage 2002. I have other - PATA - disks, which > > most of the time are not enabled in the bios, and what other OSes are > > installed to and, while DriveImage 2002 won't run from Vista/Server2008 - > or > > anyway the x64 versions - it will certainly back them up fine run from the > > earlier OSes it does work in. > > > > The main issue with DI2002 is that to image the OS it's running from (or > > restore from DOS) it reboots and runs in Caldera DOS (not that the flavour > > of DOS matters), which means it doesn't complete when required to operate > > beyond 137G. The error it throws up refers to the image location being > > full - which is kind of right; even if said location has twice as much > free > > space as the image requires, if the 137G boundary is crossed less than > half > > way into that space, the image write fails. If the Backup location (and > > drive to be imaged) is entirely within the first 137G there is no problem. > > > > Anyhow, the first music I was *really* aware of, such that I have never > > forgotten it (that is, to *forget* being to have forgotten the organic > file > > path to the memory - it would still be there, just buried) was "The Last > > Time", "It's All Over Now", "19th Nervous Breakdown", "Stoned Love", "Baby > > Love", "You Really got Me", "All Day and All of the Night", "Reach Out > > (I'll Be There)", "Ball Of Confusion", "Tears Of A Clown", "Woodstock" > > (Matthews Southern Comfort's version), "Big Yellow Taxi", "What Do You Get > > When You Fall In Love", "Last Train to Clarksville". Obviously I could go > > on. That's the thing: it is almost endless! > > > > You hear these tunes again and it all comes back, i.e. you are *not* > hearing > > them as though for the first time: you are re-discovering the long lost > file > > path to what is potentially a note-for-note copy in your memory - in my > case > > about 40-45 years old! And I have currently about 8G - well over 1200 > tracks > > worth - of computer disk space storing singles from my lifetime (and > > before - after all Buddy Holly snuffed it before I was born; but not a > great > > many from the last 10/15 years, I'm afraid!). I have also virtually > > re-acquired the albums I used to have and along with music CDs ripped to > the > > computer it all comes to about 30G. And the point is that *all* of that > > music was in my head all of the time! And those are just the music > memories. > > What about the memories the music triggers? > > > > I vaguely remember seeing the view of the balcony, on the news, when the > > assassination of Martin Luther King was announced. > > > > I remember watching (the recording of) the Moon Landing (in the assembly > > hall at school the next day). On a black and white telly of course. > > > > And though it may be that these are composite images that *symbolise* the > > memories, nonetheless the entire perceived experience may still be there, > > intact, buried under a mountain of other superfluous archiving. Several > > gigabytes-worth of recordings of one brief period is précised into a > single > > representation that imparts the flavour of the experience, the pertinent > > aspects of it, in an instant. Which is what symbolism is. And symbolism > is, > > incidentally, I believe, what Emotion is. A kind of translation of the > > machine code of the brain into the visceral feeling that compels us to > act; > > that all mental activity has a value on some sliding emotional scale. That > > like synaesthesia, it is the same stimuli, through a different filter. > > > > Machine Code is what the Central Nervous System works in. It is not so > much > > *Unconscious* as unrecognised and so disregarded by the Conscious Mind. > You > > can see it - like White Noise - if you try. And you can see something of > > it's pattern-recognition nature when under the influence of psychedelic > > drugs. > > > > The brain converts this basic data into symbols (Assembly) representing > > concepts, and of which our Conscious thought is composed. > > > > Many believe that we are entirely unconsciously-driven, while those who > > think they must be crazy simply do not understand. We are at least > *largely* > > unconsciously-driven; but the Mind is a feedback mechanism. However, it > > takes pretty much a whole lifetime to acquire wisdom and thus to know, not > > just why others do what they do and why societies do what they do, but why > > we make excuses to ourselves when we are young, to justify doing what > we've > > absorbed to be 'wrong' or to hide from ourselves what looks the Truth, but > > which scares us to contemplate, and how we forget that these were (rumours > > and lies and) stories we made up and adopt a world view in which *they* > are > > truths, and spend a lifetime justifying decisions apparently based on > them. > > There does not seem to be a quick version of acquiring this wisdom; it is > > more like a revelation or series of revelations reached at progressively > > later stages of life, rather as we are unable to conceive of individuals > > entirely outside of our own selves until about 5 years old. Like to some > > extent the shoulders of the giants we stand on are our own. > > > > But what use is it to become wise on or approaching our death bed when > > no-one listens to us anymore? When they will keep making the same mistakes > > living lives of greed, jealousy, selfishness and the rest, while > pretending > > to be essentially above reproach? And can Windows ME be reconfigured to > > obviate this? > > There's no doubt it could be, but mighty slim chance that it would be, > unless you'd give it a try. I stand ready to help, 'Arturo', as one of a > 'Last of the Mohicans'. > > Harry. > > > > > > Arturo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest Arturo Seis Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: WMP9 beta "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message news:D2557A12-F862-4E52-BE87-15EC421955DD@microsoft.com... > Look out Arturo, ASCAP and BMI will be visiting you shortly for their > royalties. That'll be fun! Arturo
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