Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

September 26, 2008

Re: One Care Scanner

Re: One Care Scanner

another pa-troller

with little to offer.

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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message news:u6l5TI3HJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:

>> for microsofts vista cleaning and tuning,

>> use a microsoft tool:

>>

>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/whatsnew.htm#

>

> Another spammer, offering deliberately bad advise.

>

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>

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>

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>

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September 26, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

lol,

as you would know

otherwise...

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"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Oepw$B3HJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

LOL. You are funny or do not know what you are talking about

You should have written the fact that Failure to Boot from using a Registry Cleaner is one of the results of using one.

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" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uXU$2eyHJHA.4564@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> most registry cleaners

> may not be as you say.

>

> but you are dead wrong

> about microsoft registry

> cleaner and you should

> be ashamed of yourself

> for being a manipulator.

>

> tell us, where are your

> responses when people

> post issues regarding

> a failure to boot as a

> result of a corrupted

> registry.

>

> you are nowhere to be

> found as i have seen.

>

> --

>

> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>

> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:50and4ha7n41p0p1rtltiugthmbidp6nkb@4ax.com...

>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:16:18 -0700 (PDT), "voujnbwuotkd@yahoo.com"

>> <voujnbwuotkd@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>

>>> Windows Vista Registry Cleaner is one such service

>>> provider that is needed to maintain the operating system in good

>>> working conditions.

>>

>> Nope!

>>

>> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the

>> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and

>> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and

>> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,

>> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

>>

>> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously

>> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit

>> it may have.

>>

>> --

>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

September 26, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

actually, we all

know both of you

as being sad jokes.

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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message news:eEDivI3HJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> John John (MVP) wrote:

>> Yes, most of his posts are nothing but a joke...

>>

>

> But in a sad, sort of sick way....

>

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>

> Bruce Chambers

>

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>

> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

>

> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.

> ~ Denis Diderot

September 26, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.

I've been using it for several years now with good results.

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> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be

>>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>>

>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner.

September 26, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

HeyBub wrote:

> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be

>>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>>

>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest

>> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications

>> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and

>> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned

>> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making

>> it clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any

>> registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't

>> serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)

>

> Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS installation was

> the culprit...

>

Yes, of course I checked them; Wouldn't have been much of a test,

otherwise. They weren't remnants of the OS installation; all (dozens,

I'd noticed the trend by then) of the ones I checked were legitimate keys.

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September 26, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Nonsense...

>

> CCleaner is an:

>

> Excellent...

>

> Safe...

>

> Registry Cleaner.

>

There is *NO* such thing.

> I've been using it for several years now with good results.

Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure

they either been notarized or verified by an independent laboratory. In

other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific

evidence will I give such claims a lick of credence.

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

killed a great many philosophers.

~ Denis Diderot

September 26, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Look out. DSH /loves/ this. He made it into my Killfile Hall of Fame on

the first ballot.

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Bruce Chambers wrote:

> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> Nonsense...

>>

>> CCleaner is an:

>>

>> Excellent...

>>

>> Safe...

>>

>> Registry Cleaner.

>>

>

> There is *NO* such thing.

>

>> I've been using it for several years now with good results.

>

> Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure

> they either been notarized or verified by an independent laboratory. In

> other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific

> evidence will I give such claims a lick of credence.

>

September 26, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

tisk tisk tisk,

your wrong again.

you know good and

well that anyone with

due deligence can

compare the before

and after of registry

cleaning....

besides, you have

admitted on several

occassions that you

use cc cleaner.

don't you remember

i called you on it?

perhaps, you should

add into your quote

line: "do as i say and

not as i do"

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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message news:%236TsWuAIJHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> Nonsense...

>>

>> CCleaner is an:

>>

>> Excellent...

>>

>> Safe...

>>

>> Registry Cleaner.

>>

>

> There is *NO* such thing.

>

>> I've been using it for several years now with good results.

>

> Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure they either been notarized or verified by an independent

> laboratory. In other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific evidence will I give such claims a lick of

> credence.

>

> --

>

> Bruce Chambers

>

> Help us help you:

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

>

> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

>

> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

>

> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.

> ~ Denis Diderot

September 27, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:03:11 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Nonsense...

>

> CCleaner is an:

>

> Excellent...

>

> Safe...

>

> Registry Cleaner.

>

> I've been using it for several years now with good results.

There is no such thing as a "safe" registry cleaner; except for the one not

used. "Clean" the wrong key from your registry, and your system is hosed.

--

Norman

~Oh Lord, why have you come

~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

September 27, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Twaddle.

I approve every single registry change that is made.

If I don't approve it, no change is made.

Perfectly safe.

--

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor

"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message

news:f5q5g3rjl83j.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:03:11 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>

>> Nonsense...

>>

>> CCleaner is an:

>>

>> Excellent...

>>

>> Safe...

>>

>> Registry Cleaner.

>>

>> I've been using it for several years now with good results.

>

> There is no such thing as a "safe" registry cleaner; except for the

> one not

> used. "Clean" the wrong key from your registry, and your system is

> hosed.

September 27, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:

> tisk tisk tisk,

> your wrong again.

>

> you know good and

> well that anyone with

> due deligence can

> compare the before

> and after of registry

> cleaning....

>

.... and find absolutely no change for the better. (Provided the

computer boots at all, that is.) If an one had ever found such

evidense, they'd surely have made it public it by now.

> besides, you have

> admitted on several

> occassions that you

> use cc cleaner.

>

Certainly, I've always conceded that CCleaner is quite useful help in

finding and cleaning up temporary files on the hard drive. We're not

discussing that function, but rather it's uselessness as a registry

cleaner, which I merely tested.

> don't you remember

> i called you on it?

>

I really don't think that your repeatedly demonstrating a lack of

reading comprehension can truly be considered as "calling" me on

anything, do you?

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

killed a great many philosophers.

~ Denis Diderot

September 27, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Twaddle.

>

> I approve every single registry change that is made.

>

> If I don't approve it, no change is made.

>

> Perfectly safe.

If the registry cleaner is so "perfectly safe," why do you feel the

need to approve each and every change? You do realize, don't you, that

you've just added weight to the position you're trying to argue against?

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

killed a great many philosophers.

~ Denis Diderot

September 27, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Balderdash...

Good software has checks and balances built in -- with full input by

the user.

CCleaner does an excellent job of cleaning the registry -- and

incorporating user input -- just as a good physician or attorney does.

Chambers seems to be the resident Village Idiot here.

Does he always provide Great Entertainment like this?

It's like having a pet kigme -- always ready to take a sharp, swift

kick to the derriere.

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Vires et Honor

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

news:#9zifVMIJHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> Twaddle.

>>

>> I approve every single registry change that is made.

>>

>> If I don't approve it, no change is made.

>>

>> Perfectly safe.

>

> If the registry cleaner is so "perfectly safe," why do you feel the

> need to approve each and every change? You do realize, don't you,

> that you've just added weight to the position you're trying to argue

> against?

September 27, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

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> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

....

Bruce, DNFTEC; you'll only get bitten. See

http://lcngarc.twoshakesofalambstail.com/1998/12/1998120729.html

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September 27, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Ildhund wrote:

> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

> news:#9zifVMIJHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> ...

>

> ...

> Bruce, DNFTEC; you'll only get bitten. See

> http://lcngarc.twoshakesofalambstail.com/1998/12/1998120729.html

I see your point, but my primary concern is to ensure that there's a

rebuttal to the deliberately harmful advice these people post, so that

newbies are at least warned of the dangers. If doing so also boosts the

sad little trolls' egos, I think it's a price I'll just have to accept.

Anyway, they generally make themselves look increasingly desperate and

pathetic with each new post.

--

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Help us help you:

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

killed a great many philosophers.

~ Denis Diderot

September 28, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com> wrote in message

news:e9nt9aMIJHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Balderdash...

>

> Good software has checks and balances built in -- with full input by the

> user.

>

> CCleaner does an excellent job of cleaning the registry -- and

> incorporating user input -- just as a good physician or attorney does.

>

>snip

What on earth have physicians and attorneys got to do with CCleaner. You are

a really strange person!

I use to be an advocate of Registry Cleaners. I use to try them all and was

quite convinced they were an essential for efficient computer management.

Perhaps in the days pre WINXP they were useful. I read all the cautionary

advice given in the NGs and like you dismissed them. Everytime I

experienced a glitch, time to run a 'cleaner' and I use to have 'glitches'

at regular intervals. I then decided perhaps I should stop running these

Cleaners and see what happens. Now I no longer have these 'glitches' or any

need to restore the Registry (ERUNT) from time to time. My experience has

been sufficient for me to relate machine problems (glitches) with Registry

Cleaners. Before you comment, I do run programs like CCleaner, not the

Registry Cleaner component, and Disk Cleaner regularly to clear out the

'trash' . Actually I think Disk Cleaner is the better of the programs.

What I do question is that Registry Cleaners will or may corrupt the

Registry to the extent of preventing boot up. This statement I simply find

absurd. For a Registry Cleaner to do this it would need to remove/corrupt

Registry entries that are essential to the OS. Even with the most

rudimentary Quality Control the software designer would identify and correct

that before the program was issued. Registry Cleaners certainly do remove

entries that are required by some programs to operate (empty keys no doubt)

and this is where they fall down. I suppose the essential question is, in

what way does the removal of empty and redundant data in the Registry

improve machine performance and/or in what way do empty and redundant keys

impair machine performance. If the machine must read every Registry entry

to permit it to execute a command then the answer is self evident but that

is not the case.

Registry Cleaners are a con. There only value is to give the users of such

programs a 'feel good' feeling. These programs remove entries in the

Registry of entries that do not require removal and by doing so sometimes

'throws the baby out with the bath water'.

September 28, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Never happened to me...

Fact:

My system runs smoother and swifter since I started using the CCleaner

registry cleaner.

I'm not vouching for regcleaners in GENERAL.

So your post was one long non sequitur.

'Nuff Said.

--

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor

"Edward W. Thompson" <thomeduk1@btopenworld.com> wrote in message

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> Registry Cleaners are a con. There [sic] only value is to give the

> users of such programs a 'feel good' feeling. These programs remove

> entries in the Registry of entries that do not require removal and

> by doing so sometimes [sic] 'throws [sic] the baby out with the bath

> water'.

September 28, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> schreef in bericht

news:eLZBdUNIJHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Ildhund wrote:

>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

>> news:#9zifVMIJHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> ...

>>

>> ...

>> Bruce, DNFTEC; you'll only get bitten. See

>> http://lcngarc.twoshakesofalambstail.com/1998/12/1998120729.html

>

> I see your point, but my primary concern is to ensure that there's a

> rebuttal to the deliberately harmful advice these people post, so that

> newbies are at least warned of the dangers. If doing so also boosts the

> sad little trolls' egos, I think it's a price I'll just have to accept.

> Anyway, they generally make themselves look increasingly desperate and

> pathetic with each new post.

>

> --

>

> Bruce Chambers

>

> Help us help you:

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

>

> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

>

> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand

> Russell

>

> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

> killed a great many philosophers.

> ~ Denis Diderot

What a lot of crap I read here. cCleaner is not so good as some think. It

produces a lot of problems and there are far better programs available with

much less problems.

September 28, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Cleaning the registry does absolutely nothing to improve speed and

performance, any increase in performance is more likely due to CC

getting rid of temp files. Given the massive size of the registry,

cleaning it out and claiming that the computer runs faster is akin to

running the vacuum cleaner in your car and then claiming that the car

goes faster because you got rid of a pound of dust and dirt! Once in a

blue moon a registry cleaner may be of help to experienced users trying

to troubleshoot problems, othewise these tools are next to useless or

worse. These tools *do* cause problems but most of the people who use

them don't have enough experience to see the link to the damage done by

the cleaner.

John

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Never happened to me...

>

> Fact:

>

> My system runs smoother and swifter since I started using the CCleaner

> registry cleaner.

>

> I'm not vouching for regcleaners in GENERAL.

>

> So your post was one long non sequitur.

>

> 'Nuff Said.

September 29, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Bruce Chambers wrote:

>

> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> > Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be

> > clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>

> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest

> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications

> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and

> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned

> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it

> clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any registry

> cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't serve any

> *useful* purpose, to start with.)

I rarely start a pc from scratch just to test out an opinion I read

here, but in this case I believe I will. I will just take a guess that

on a fresh install Windows itself adds "useless" aka "currently

unneeded" entries that do not point to anything useful. Or, perhaps,

Windows adds entries that may come in handy in the future to help

install hardware and software.

Reference:

http://www.bootdisk.com/housecall/0035.htm#3

--

http://www.bootdisk.com/

September 29, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Bruce Chambers wrote:

>

> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> > Nonsense...

> > CCleaner is an:

> > Excellent...

> > Safe...

> > Registry Cleaner.

>

> Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure

> they either been notarized or verified by an independent laboratory. In

> other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific

> evidence will I give such claims a lick of credence.

Sounds like the advice from that guy in the movie

"Thank You For Smoking"

I'd suggest limiting your crossposting BTW

September 29, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:50:57 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Twaddle.

>

> I approve every single registry change that is made.

>

> If I don't approve it, no change is made.

>

> Perfectly safe.

I don't need a registry cleaner to recommend changes which I then have to

approve. Unless I have some indication that there is a registry change

needed, I don't make changes. I've got a few "dead" keys. I don't see how

they make any difference.

Any tool which offers suggested changes is dangerous in the hands of those

who don't know what the tool does. Anybody who does know what the registry

cleaner is recommending, probably doesn't even need the cleaner.

--

Norman

~Oh Lord, why have you come

~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

September 29, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

If you're really planning on erasing your hard disk and reinstalling Windows from scratch, here's a fun exercise to try:

Once Windows is up and running, run a registry cleaner. You'll be amazed at the "errors" it finds. Can you imagine the nerve of Microsoft - to deliver an operating system that has errors right out of the box!

For even more fun, run a few different registry cleaners, and see if they all come up with the same errors. They don't? So which one is right?

Come to think of it, if all these registry cleaner developers understand Windows so well - better than Microsoft, apparently - why don't they get together and write an error-free operating system! Windows would be out of business in no time, don't ya think?

;-)

Daddy

"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message news:48e03314$1$9716$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...

> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>>

>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> > Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be

>> > clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>>

>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest

>> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications

>> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and

>> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned

>> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it

>> clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any registry

>> cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't serve any

>> *useful* purpose, to start with.)

>

> I rarely start a pc from scratch just to test out an opinion I read

> here, but in this case I believe I will. I will just take a guess that

> on a fresh install Windows itself adds "useless" aka "currently

> unneeded" entries that do not point to anything useful. Or, perhaps,

> Windows adds entries that may come in handy in the future to help

> install hardware and software.

>

> Reference:

> http://www.bootdisk.com/housecall/0035.htm#3

>

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September 29, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Those who want to dumb every piece of software down to the point that

even the most rank newbie can NEVER get in trouble with it should be

condemned to use ONLY that software.

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September 29, 2008

Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Why do you call them errors? They are not errors.

"Daddy" <daddy@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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If you're really planning on erasing your hard disk and reinstalling Windows

from scratch, here's a fun exercise to try:

Once Windows is up and running, run a registry cleaner. You'll be amazed at

the "errors" it finds. Can you imagine the nerve of Microsoft - to deliver

an operating system that has errors right out of the box!

For even more fun, run a few different registry cleaners, and see if they

all come up with the same errors. They don't? So which one is right?

Come to think of it, if all these registry cleaner developers understand

Windows so well - better than Microsoft, apparently - why don't they get

together and write an error-free operating system! Windows would be out of

business in no time, don't ya think?

;-)

Daddy

"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message

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> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>>

>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> > Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be

>> > clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>>

>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest

>> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications

>> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and

>> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned

>> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it

>> clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any registry

>> cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't serve any

>> *useful* purpose, to start with.)

>

> I rarely start a pc from scratch just to test out an opinion I read

> here, but in this case I believe I will. I will just take a guess that

> on a fresh install Windows itself adds "useless" aka "currently

> unneeded" entries that do not point to anything useful. Or, perhaps,

> Windows adds entries that may come in handy in the future to help

> install hardware and software.

>

> Reference:

> http://www.bootdisk.com/housecall/0035.htm#3

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