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I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

I'm always on the computer (working) so I need a nice setup.

 

So far, I've found good reviews on the following LCD monitors ...

 

1) Samsung T220 Black/Red 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

2) Dell SP2208WFP Silver 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

 

However, a dual monitor setup would be nice if the price is right.

Not sure what's the best size for this setup though.

I'm thinking of a dual 19"-20" LCD monitor setup since

a dual 21"-22" LCD monitor setup might be too much?

Also, some widescreen LCD monitors can be rotated from

landscape to portrait view, which would be perfect for

a dual monitor setup. Any recommendations on 19"-20" LCD monitors?

 

Any other suggestions?

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Adam wrote:

> Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

>

> I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

> LCD. I'm always on the computer (working) so I need a nice setup.

>

> So far, I've found good reviews on the following LCD monitors ...

>

> 1) Samsung T220 Black/Red 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

> 2) Dell SP2208WFP Silver 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

 

An FYI...

 

If you get a 21" widescreen monitor you will have more area on the monitor

but the size of things will be smaller than they are on your 21" CRT. They

would be about the size they would be if you viewed them on a 17" CRT. To

get images the same size as on your 21" CRT, you'd need a widescreen monitor

that is 26"+ diagonally.

 

 

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dadiOH

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dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

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"dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message

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> Adam wrote:

> > Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> >

> > I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

> > LCD. I'm always on the computer (working) so I need a nice setup.

> >

> > So far, I've found good reviews on the following LCD monitors ...

> >

> > 1) Samsung T220 Black/Red 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

> > 2) Dell SP2208WFP Silver 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

>

>

> An FYI...

>

> If you get a 21" widescreen monitor you will have more area on the monitor

> but the size of things will be smaller than they are on your 21" CRT. They

> would be about the size they would be if you viewed them on a 17" CRT. To

> get images the same size as on your 21" CRT, you'd need a widescreen monitor

> that is 26"+ diagonally.

>

> --

>

> dadiOH

> ____________________________

>

> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

>

 

 

If you mean images appear zoomed in (or resolution is lower) on

widescreen LCD monitors, then that's a good point that slipped my mind.

In that case, it might be better to go with the following ...

> However, a dual monitor setup would be nice if the price is right.

> Not sure what's the best size for this setup though.

> I'm thinking of a dual 19"-20" LCD monitor setup since

> a dual 21"-22" LCD monitor setup might be too much?

> Also, some widescreen LCD monitors can be pivoted/rotated from

> landscape to portrait mode, which would be perfect for

> a dual monitor setup. Any recommendations on

> 19"-20" LCD monitors with pivot capability?

 

1) Dell UltraSharp 1908WFP 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor

2) Dell UltraSharp 2009W 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor

3) Dell UltraSharp 2208WFP 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

4) Samsung 2243BWX 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

 

Any opinions?

Guest Franc Zabkar

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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

>

>I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

 

I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

 

If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

resolution that was supported by my card.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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Guest Adam

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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> finger to keyboard and composed:

>

> >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> >

> >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

>

> I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

>

> If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> resolution that was supported by my card.

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

 

I have the following video card ...

- ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

 

It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

 

BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about

replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,

the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or

too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and

destroying my farsighted vision.

Guest Franc Zabkar

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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:10:48 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

>> finger to keyboard and composed:

>>

>> >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

>> >

>> >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

>>

>> I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

>> also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

>>

>> If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

>> resolution that was supported by my card.

>>

>> - Franc Zabkar

>

>I have the following video card ...

>- ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

>

>It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

 

I don't know, but here are the specs for your card:

http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/specs.html

 

See the bottom of the page for supported resolutions. Note that these

may be OS and driver dependent.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:10:48 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> finger to keyboard and composed:

>

> >

> >"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> >news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> >> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> >> finger to keyboard and composed:

> >>

> >> >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> >> >

> >> >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

> >>

> >> I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> >> also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> >>

> >> If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> >> resolution that was supported by my card.

> >>

> >> - Franc Zabkar

> >

> >I have the following video card ...

> >- ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

> >

> >It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

>

> I don't know, but here are the specs for your card:

> http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/specs.html

>

> See the bottom of the page for supported resolutions. Note that these

> may be OS and driver dependent.

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

 

Oh yeah, my video card should be able to

handle any 22" (or less) LCD monitor under consideration.

It might not be able to handle some larger (or higher resolution)

LCD monitors though.

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Adam wrote:

> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:eB0w3f0HJHA.1088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Adam wrote:

>>> Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

>>>

>>> I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

>>> LCD. I'm always on the computer (working) so I need a nice setup.

>>>

>>> So far, I've found good reviews on the following LCD monitors ...

>>>

>>> 1) Samsung T220 Black/Red 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

>>> 2) Dell SP2208WFP Silver 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

>>

>>

>> An FYI...

>>

>> If you get a 21" widescreen monitor you will have more area on the

>> monitor but the size of things will be smaller than they are on your

>> 21" CRT. They would be about the size they would be if you viewed

>> them on a 17" CRT. To get images the same size as on your 21" CRT,

>> you'd need a widescreen monitor that is 26"+ diagonally.

>>

>> --

>>

>> dadiOH

>> ____________________________

> If you mean images appear zoomed in (or resolution is lower) on

> widescreen LCD monitors, then that's a good point that slipped my

> mind. In that case, it might be better to go with the following ...

 

No, I am talking about the vertical dimension of the screen. A 21" wide

screen monitor will have a smaller vertical dimension than a 21"

non-widescreen monitor.

 

 

--

 

dadiOH

____________________________

 

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

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"dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message

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> Adam wrote:

> > "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message

> > news:eB0w3f0HJHA.1088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> Adam wrote:

> >>> Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> >>>

> >>> I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

> >>> LCD. I'm always on the computer (working) so I need a nice setup.

> >>>

> >>> So far, I've found good reviews on the following LCD monitors ...

> >>>

> >>> 1) Samsung T220 Black/Red 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

> >>> 2) Dell SP2208WFP Silver 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

> >>

> >>

> >> An FYI...

> >>

> >> If you get a 21" widescreen monitor you will have more area on the

> >> monitor but the size of things will be smaller than they are on your

> >> 21" CRT. They would be about the size they would be if you viewed

> >> them on a 17" CRT. To get images the same size as on your 21" CRT,

> >> you'd need a widescreen monitor that is 26"+ diagonally.

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >> dadiOH

> >> ____________________________

>

> > If you mean images appear zoomed in (or resolution is lower) on

> > widescreen LCD monitors, then that's a good point that slipped my

> > mind. In that case, it might be better to go with the following ...

>

> No, I am talking about the vertical dimension of the screen. A 21" wide

> screen monitor will have a smaller vertical dimension than a 21"

> non-widescreen monitor.

>

>

> --

>

> dadiOH

> ____________________________

>

> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

>

 

 

Oh, yes, I'm actually comparing the dimensions right now.

CRT monitors are more square while

widescreen LCD monitors tend to be more rectangular.

But, even within widescreen LCD monitors,

the difference can be significant. For example ...

 

1) (W=17.43"; H=17.3") Dell UltraSharp 1908WFP 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor

2) (W=18.62"; H=17.08") Dell UltraSharp 2009W 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor

3) (W=20.13"; H=18.12") Dell UltraSharp 2208WFP 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

4) (W=19.9"; H=14.78") Samsung 2243BWX 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

 

The dimensions of the Dell widescreen LCD Monitors are

more square (which is good, I guess) than the Samsung.

I'm not sure whether the dimensions include the case enclosure or not.

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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>>Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

>>

>>I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

>

> I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

>

> If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> resolution that was supported by my card.

 

2 Days ago I replaced my wife's 19" monitor and my 21" monitor

(HitachiCM771 and Hitachi CM813)

with :

a. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - 2243BWX, and

b. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - T220

 

The 2243BWX is running WinXP with a NVIDIA MX440 at 1024x768

The T220 is running WinXP and Win98SE with a NVIDIA 8500GT at 1024x768

(also Win98SE, using a 64Mb Voodoo V5 video card (KVM switch)

 

The LCD screens are actually the same vertical size as the 21" CRT

monitor.

 

Out of the two the T220 seems better, although the stand only has a tilt

function not swivel like the 2243BWX.

 

The T220 has no difficulty swapping between WinXP and Win98SE computers,

as it auto adjusts each time and the 2ms response time is far better for

flight sims than the 5ms of the 2243BWX.

 

Actually installing the monitor driver was far easier on the Win98SE box,

as it detected "new hardware" and three mouse clicks all was finished.

(The WinXP driver had to be installed as "change monitor driver", after

the XP auto installed a plug and play monitor with no on screen

notification) :-)

 

Overall, so far, the T220 is brilliant IMHO.

Guest Adam

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"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

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>

> "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> > finger to keyboard and composed:

> >

> >>Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> >>

> >>I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

> >

> > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> >

> > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> > resolution that was supported by my card.

>

> 2 Days ago I replaced my wife's 19" monitor and my 21" monitor

> (HitachiCM771 and Hitachi CM813)

> with :

> a. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - 2243BWX, and

> b. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - T220

>

> The 2243BWX is running WinXP with a NVIDIA MX440 at 1024x768

> The T220 is running WinXP and Win98SE with a NVIDIA 8500GT at 1024x768

> (also Win98SE, using a 64Mb Voodoo V5 video card (KVM switch)

>

> The LCD screens are actually the same vertical size as the 21" CRT

> monitor.

>

> Out of the two the T220 seems better, although the stand only has a tilt

> function not swivel like the 2243BWX.

>

> The T220 has no difficulty swapping between WinXP and Win98SE computers,

> as it auto adjusts each time and the 2ms response time is far better for

> flight sims than the 5ms of the 2243BWX.

>

> Actually installing the monitor driver was far easier on the Win98SE box,

> as it detected "new hardware" and three mouse clicks all was finished.

> (The WinXP driver had to be installed as "change monitor driver", after

> the XP auto installed a plug and play monitor with no on screen

> notification) :-)

>

> Overall, so far, the T220 is brilliant IMHO.

>

 

 

That's great info! Thanks!

 

I'm finding that the pivot (rotation) feature might make more sense for

the more rectangular LCD monitors.

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"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

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>

> "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> > finger to keyboard and composed:

> >

> >>Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> >>

> >>I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

> >

> > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> >

> > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> > resolution that was supported by my card.

>

> 2 Days ago I replaced my wife's 19" monitor and my 21" monitor

> (HitachiCM771 and Hitachi CM813)

> with :

> a. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - 2243BWX, and

> b. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - T220

>

> The 2243BWX is running WinXP with a NVIDIA MX440 at 1024x768

> The T220 is running WinXP and Win98SE with a NVIDIA 8500GT at 1024x768

> (also Win98SE, using a 64Mb Voodoo V5 video card (KVM switch)

>

> The LCD screens are actually the same vertical size as the 21" CRT

> monitor.

>

> Out of the two the T220 seems better, although the stand only has a tilt

> function not swivel like the 2243BWX.

>

> The T220 has no difficulty swapping between WinXP and Win98SE computers,

> as it auto adjusts each time and the 2ms response time is far better for

> flight sims than the 5ms of the 2243BWX.

>

> Actually installing the monitor driver was far easier on the Win98SE box,

> as it detected "new hardware" and three mouse clicks all was finished.

> (The WinXP driver had to be installed as "change monitor driver", after

> the XP auto installed a plug and play monitor with no on screen

> notification) :-)

>

> Overall, so far, the T220 is brilliant IMHO.

>

 

 

Regarding height/vertical size, I just realize that

the stand is included in the measurement.

This makes it tough to calculate which monitors will work best for

the dual monitor setup in the space that I have (~24" width is the limiting

factor).

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"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message

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>

> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:ehY7wx1HJHA.2492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Adam wrote:

> > > "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message

> > > news:eB0w3f0HJHA.1088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > >> Adam wrote:

> > >>> Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> > >>>

> > >>> I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

> > >>> LCD. I'm always on the computer (working) so I need a nice setup.

> > >>>

> > >>> So far, I've found good reviews on the following LCD monitors ...

> > >>>

> > >>> 1) (W=20.5"; H=20.5") Samsung T220 Black/Red 22" Widescreen LCD

Monitor

> > >>> 2) (W=20.2"; H=16.3") Dell SP2208WFP Silver 22" Widescreen LCD

Monitor

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> An FYI...

> > >>

> > >> If you get a 21" widescreen monitor you will have more area on the

> > >> monitor but the size of things will be smaller than they are on your

> > >> 21" CRT. They would be about the size they would be if you viewed

> > >> them on a 17" CRT. To get images the same size as on your 21" CRT,

> > >> you'd need a widescreen monitor that is 26"+ diagonally.

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >>

> > >> dadiOH

> > >> ____________________________

> >

> > > If you mean images appear zoomed in (or resolution is lower) on

> > > widescreen LCD monitors, then that's a good point that slipped my

> > > mind. In that case, it might be better to go with the following ...

> >

> > No, I am talking about the vertical dimension of the screen. A 21" wide

> > screen monitor will have a smaller vertical dimension than a 21"

> > non-widescreen monitor.

> >

> >

> > --

> >

> > dadiOH

> > ____________________________

> >

> > dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

> > ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

> > LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

> > Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

> >

>

>

> Oh, yes, I'm actually comparing the dimensions right now.

> CRT monitors are more square while

> widescreen LCD monitors tend to be more rectangular.

> But, even within widescreen LCD monitors,

> the difference can be significant. For example ...

>

> 1) (W=17.43"; H=17.3") Dell UltraSharp 1908WFP 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor

> 2) (W=18.62"; H=17.08") Dell UltraSharp 2009W 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor

> 3) (W=20.13"; H=18.12") Dell UltraSharp 2208WFP 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

> 4) (W=19.9"; H=14.78") Samsung 2243BWX 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

>

> The dimensions of the Dell widescreen LCD Monitors are

> more square (which is good, I guess) than the Samsung.

> I'm not sure whether the dimensions include the case enclosure or not.

>

 

 

- (W=19.9"; H=19.19") ViewSonic P815 21" CRT Monitor

Guest Jeff Richards

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You do not have to worry about how square or wide the monitor is, provided

that your display adapter card provides a mode that supports the monitor.

For instance, the common format of 1152x864 is 4/3 (nearly square) whilst a

display of 1280x720 is about 9/5 and distinctly rectangular. Matching the

adapter card abilities to the natural resolution of the screen is more

important than whether it's square or wide.

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MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

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>

> snip <

>

> Oh, yes, I'm actually comparing the dimensions right now.

> CRT monitors are more square while

> widescreen LCD monitors tend to be more rectangular.

> But, even within widescreen LCD monitors,

> the difference can be significant. For example ...

>

> 1) (W=17.43"; H=17.3") Dell UltraSharp 1908WFP 19" Widescreen LCD

> Monitor

> 2) (W=18.62"; H=17.08") Dell UltraSharp 2009W 20" Widescreen LCD

> Monitor

> 3) (W=20.13"; H=18.12") Dell UltraSharp 2208WFP 22" Widescreen LCD

> Monitor

> 4) (W=19.9"; H=14.78") Samsung 2243BWX 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

>

> The dimensions of the Dell widescreen LCD Monitors are

> more square (which is good, I guess) than the Samsung.

> I'm not sure whether the dimensions include the case enclosure or not.

>

>

Guest Adam

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Due to space limitations (width-wise), I need to worry about

the width and height (side-to-side) of the monitor(s).

 

 

"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

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> You do not have to worry about how square or wide the monitor is, provided

> that your display adapter card provides a mode that supports the monitor.

> For instance, the common format of 1152x864 is 4/3 (nearly square) whilst a

> display of 1280x720 is about 9/5 and distinctly rectangular. Matching the

> adapter card abilities to the natural resolution of the screen is more

> important than whether it's square or wide.

> --

> Jeff Richards

> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message

> news:nAUCk.1770$c45.349@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...

> >

> > snip <

> >

> > Oh, yes, I'm actually comparing the dimensions right now.

> > CRT monitors are more square while

> > widescreen LCD monitors tend to be more rectangular.

> > But, even within widescreen LCD monitors,

> > the difference can be significant. For example ...

> >

> > 1) (W=17.43"; H=17.3") Dell UltraSharp 1908WFP 19" Widescreen LCD

> > Monitor

> > 2) (W=18.62"; H=17.08") Dell UltraSharp 2009W 20" Widescreen LCD

> > Monitor

> > 3) (W=20.13"; H=18.12") Dell UltraSharp 2208WFP 22" Widescreen LCD

> > Monitor

> > 4) (W=19.9"; H=14.78") Samsung 2243BWX 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor

> >

> > The dimensions of the Dell widescreen LCD Monitors are

> > more square (which is good, I guess) than the Samsung.

> > I'm not sure whether the dimensions include the case enclosure or not.

> >

> >

>

>

Guest Franc Zabkar

Guest Franc Zabkar

Posted
Posted

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

 

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:10:44 +1000, "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

>> finger to keyboard and composed:

>>

>>>Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

>>>

>>>I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

>>

>> I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

>> also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

>>

>> If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

>> resolution that was supported by my card.

>

>2 Days ago I replaced my wife's 19" monitor and my 21" monitor

> (HitachiCM771 and Hitachi CM813)

>with :

>a. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - 2243BWX, and

>b. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - T220

>

>The 2243BWX is running WinXP with a NVIDIA MX440 at 1024x768

>The T220 is running WinXP and Win98SE with a NVIDIA 8500GT at 1024x768

>(also Win98SE, using a 64Mb Voodoo V5 video card (KVM switch)

 

Both monitors have a 1680x1050 native resolution, ie an aspect ratio

of 16:10. However, your card's aspect ratio is 4:3, ie 16:12.

 

It seems to me that you are missing out on a lot. For one thing, I

don't believe you can take advantage of XP's ClearType at non-native

resolutions.

 

Secondly, if your image is filling the screen, then the monitor must

be stretching the horizontal. This means that human figures would look

shorter and fatter.

 

- Franc Zabkar

--

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Guest Dan

Guest Dan

Posted
Posted

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

 

I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size on my

old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it was

wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic

monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung monitor but

decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support it. I

currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be really

awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.

Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or better

since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon 9500 and

better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since the

failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then the

successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card, I have

been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to me as

well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel CPU's

better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to have a

fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working with

their computers(s).

 

"Adam" wrote:

>

> "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> > finger to keyboard and composed:

> >

> > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> > >

> > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

> >

> > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> >

> > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> > resolution that was supported by my card.

> >

> > - Franc Zabkar

> > --

> > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

>

>

> I have the following video card ...

> - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

>

> It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

>

> BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about

> replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,

> the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or

> too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and

> destroying my farsighted vision.

>

>

>

Guest Sunny

Guest Sunny

Posted
Posted

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

 

 

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

news:9ibod49cgpuih8vsuhul51udglg99imhn6@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:10:44 +1000, "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au>

> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>>

>>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>>news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

>>> finger to keyboard and composed:

>>>

>>>>Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

>>>>

>>>>I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

>>>>LCD.

>>>

>>> I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

>>> also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

>>>

>>> If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

>>> resolution that was supported by my card.

>>

>>2 Days ago I replaced my wife's 19" monitor and my 21" monitor

>> (HitachiCM771 and Hitachi CM813)

>>with :

>>a. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - 2243BWX, and

>>b. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - T220

>>

>>The 2243BWX is running WinXP with a NVIDIA MX440 at 1024x768

>>The T220 is running WinXP and Win98SE with a NVIDIA 8500GT at 1024x768

>>(also Win98SE, using a 64Mb Voodoo V5 video card (KVM switch)

>

> Both monitors have a 1680x1050 native resolution, ie an aspect ratio

> of 16:10. However, your card's aspect ratio is 4:3, ie 16:12.

>

> It seems to me that you are missing out on a lot. For one thing, I

> don't believe you can take advantage of XP's ClearType at non-native

> resolutions.

>

> Secondly, if your image is filling the screen, then the monitor must

> be stretching the horizontal. This means that human figures would look

> shorter and fatter.

 

I had a quick try at 1680 x 1050, didn't bother adjusting the "window" to

fit the screen, when it looked like I needed a magnifying glass to read

anything :-)

 

The Win98SE Flight Sims I play use 600 x 800 (a couple use 640 x ?) and

are actually Win95/DOS etc.

 

Have kept away from LCD monitors so far, because they were not fast

enough, however the 2ms Samsung seems OK.

 

Typing is as clear as the old monitor, and the "stretching is not really

apparent to my (old) eyes :-)

Guest Sunny

Guest Sunny

Posted
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Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

 

 

"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message

news:PJVCk.1613$YU2.1363@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...

> - (W=19.9"; H=19.19") ViewSonic P815 21" CRT Monitor

 

Just went out and measured the old 21" monitor

Hitachi CM813 :

Dimensions : W 19" x H 20.5"

Screen : W 16" x H 12"

Samsung T220 :

Dimensions : W 20.5" x H 17.5"

Screen : W 18.7" x H 11.5"

 

The big difference is 5" deep instead of 19" and a vast drop in weight

:-)

Guest Dan

Guest Dan

Posted
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Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

 

640x480 <?> for the games, Sunny

 

"Sunny" wrote:

>

> "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> news:9ibod49cgpuih8vsuhul51udglg99imhn6@4ax.com...

> > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:10:44 +1000, "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au>

> > put finger to keyboard and composed:

> >

> >>

> >>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> >>news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> >>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> >>> finger to keyboard and composed:

> >>>

> >>>>Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> >>>>

> >>>>I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

> >>>>LCD.

> >>>

> >>> I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> >>> also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> >>>

> >>> If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> >>> resolution that was supported by my card.

> >>

> >>2 Days ago I replaced my wife's 19" monitor and my 21" monitor

> >> (HitachiCM771 and Hitachi CM813)

> >>with :

> >>a. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - 2243BWX, and

> >>b. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - T220

> >>

> >>The 2243BWX is running WinXP with a NVIDIA MX440 at 1024x768

> >>The T220 is running WinXP and Win98SE with a NVIDIA 8500GT at 1024x768

> >>(also Win98SE, using a 64Mb Voodoo V5 video card (KVM switch)

> >

> > Both monitors have a 1680x1050 native resolution, ie an aspect ratio

> > of 16:10. However, your card's aspect ratio is 4:3, ie 16:12.

> >

> > It seems to me that you are missing out on a lot. For one thing, I

> > don't believe you can take advantage of XP's ClearType at non-native

> > resolutions.

> >

> > Secondly, if your image is filling the screen, then the monitor must

> > be stretching the horizontal. This means that human figures would look

> > shorter and fatter.

>

> I had a quick try at 1680 x 1050, didn't bother adjusting the "window" to

> fit the screen, when it looked like I needed a magnifying glass to read

> anything :-)

>

> The Win98SE Flight Sims I play use 600 x 800 (a couple use 640 x ?) and

> are actually Win95/DOS etc.

>

> Have kept away from LCD monitors so far, because they were not fast

> enough, however the 2ms Samsung seems OK.

>

> Typing is as clear as the old monitor, and the "stretching is not really

> apparent to my (old) eyes :-)

>

>

>

>

Guest Sunny

Guest Sunny

Posted
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Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

 

 

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> 640x480 <?> for the games, Sunny

Ta.

I upped the resolution in WinXP to 1152 x 864, and that is as far as I can

go without using a pair of binoculars :-)

Guest Patrick Vervoorn

Guest Patrick Vervoorn

Posted
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Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

 

In article <udug2P2HJHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

Sunny <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>2 Days ago I replaced my wife's 19" monitor and my 21" monitor

> (HitachiCM771 and Hitachi CM813)

>with :

>a. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - 2243BWX, and

>b. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - T220

>

>The 2243BWX is running WinXP with a NVIDIA MX440 at 1024x768

>The T220 is running WinXP and Win98SE with a NVIDIA 8500GT at 1024x768

>(also Win98SE, using a 64Mb Voodoo V5 video card (KVM switch)

 

[snip]

 

This is a terrible waste of these monitors. Both should be able to do

1680x1050, and I have an old P2-400, with an NVidia RIVA TNT which also

does 1680x1050. While I understand further on in this thread you have

eyesight related limitations which apparently prompted you to set these

resolutions, your eyes will probably thank you more if you drive these

displays at their native resolutions, and perhaps play with the font-size

a bit...?

 

The other unfortunate part is that in my experience, Samsung's support for

other scaling-options than 'fill screen' (i.e. stretch all input until

they fill the screen). This will distort all signals you provide. More

'mature' displays allow you at least 'Fill to aspect' (which means they

stretch the input until they hit an edge, and then keep it like that,

filling up any left-over space with black bars. Finally, there's also 1:1,

which maps the input, on a pixel-per-pixel basis, to the screen, but at

low resolutions, you will end up with a post-stamp sized image.

 

Anyway, if you're happy with your setup, all the power to you, but be

aware there are probably other, and better solutions which let you use the

full resolution of the monitor, and provide less eye-strain.

 

Regards,

 

Patrick.

Guest Adam

Guest Adam

Posted
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Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

 

Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.

The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,

which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with

blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.

 

My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,

which left me with a bad after taste.

 

My AMD CPU system has served me well.

I might build an Intel CPU system one day.

 

 

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...

> I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size on my

> old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it was

> wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic

> monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung monitor but

> decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support it. I

> currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be really

> awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.

> Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or better

> since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon 9500 and

> better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since the

> failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then the

> successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card, I have

> been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to me as

> well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel CPU's

> better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to have a

> fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working with

> their computers(s).

>

>

> "Adam" wrote:

>

> >

> > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> > > finger to keyboard and composed:

> > >

> > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> > > >

> > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

> > >

> > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> > >

> > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> > > resolution that was supported by my card.

> > >

> > > - Franc Zabkar

> > > --

> > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

> >

> >

> > I have the following video card ...

> > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

> >

> > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

> >

> > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about

> > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,

> > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or

> > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and

> > destroying my farsighted vision.

> >

Guest Adam

Guest Adam

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Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

 

 

"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

news:uoctlK6HJHA.1364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>

> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message

> news:PJVCk.1613$YU2.1363@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...

> > - (W=19.9"; H=19.19") ViewSonic P815 21" CRT Monitor

>

> Just went out and measured the old 21" monitor

> Hitachi CM813 :

> Dimensions : W 19" x H 20.5"

> Screen : W 16" x H 12"

> Samsung T220 :

> Dimensions : W 20.5" x H 17.5"

> Screen : W 18.7" x H 11.5"

>

> The big difference is 5" deep instead of 19" and a vast drop in weight

> :-)

>

 

 

Thanks!

 

The T220 does not pivot so I'm considering

it's bigger brother (listed in the PDF in the following URL) ...

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/spec.do?group=computersperipherals&typ

e=monitors&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LS22TWHSUV/ZA

 

The PDF is really nice since it also shows dimensions without the stand also.

Guest chrisv

Guest chrisv

Posted
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Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

 

Adam wrote:

>> The dimensions of the Dell widescreen LCD Monitors are

>> more square (which is good, I guess) than the Samsung.

>> I'm not sure whether the dimensions include the case enclosure or not.

>

>- (W=19.9"; H=19.19") ViewSonic P815 21" CRT Monitor

 

Umm.... 21" 4:3 (CRT) monitors have viewable screen dimensions of 16"

x 12".

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