best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

September 26, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

Sunny wrote:

>I had a quick try at 1680 x 1050, didn't bother adjusting the "window" to

>fit the screen, when it looked like I needed a magnifying glass to read

>anything :-)

Fit it to the screen at 1680x1050, and live with it. Reading glassses

if needed.

Be glad you didn't get a 19" 1680x1050.

September 26, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

news:nqaqd4plhjv45oj03fj5hl0moib77sgvnl@4ax.com...

> Adam wrote:

>

> >> The dimensions of the Dell widescreen LCD Monitors are

> >> more square (which is good, I guess) than the Samsung.

> >> I'm not sure whether the dimensions include the case enclosure or not.

> >

> >- (W=19.9"; H=19.19") ViewSonic P815 21" CRT Monitor

>

> Umm.... 21" 4:3 (CRT) monitors have viewable screen dimensions of 16"

> x 12".

>

Yes, you're right. But, since my primary concern is space,

the physical (not viewable) dimensions are

what I'm most interested in.

September 26, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error

message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace burned

out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still too

limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will break a

piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so much

easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers as far

as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules and

graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help from

an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice because

the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10 dollars.

"Adam" wrote:

> Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.

> The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,

> which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with

> blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.

>

> My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,

> which left me with a bad after taste.

>

> My AMD CPU system has served me well.

> I might build an Intel CPU system one day.

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...

> > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size on my

> > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it was

> > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic

> > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung monitor but

> > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support it. I

> > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be really

> > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.

> > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or better

> > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon 9500 and

> > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since the

> > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then the

> > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card, I have

> > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to me as

> > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel CPU's

> > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to have a

> > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working with

> > their computers(s).

> >

> > "Adam" wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> > > > finger to keyboard and composed:

> > > >

> > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> > > > >

> > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.

> > > >

> > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> > > >

> > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> > > > resolution that was supported by my card.

> > > >

> > > > - Franc Zabkar

> > > > --

> > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

> > >

> > > I have the following video card ...

> > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

> > >

> > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

> > >

> > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about

> > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,

> > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or

> > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and

> > > destroying my farsighted vision.

> > >

>

September 26, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that

comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.

If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet, etc.,

I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.

No way, no how.

Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to

the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but

there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.

I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.

But, after the system goes into Win98SE,

no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!

Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,

might know what the problem might be.

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...

> My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error

> message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace burned

> out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still too

> limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will break a

> piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so much

> easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers as far

> as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules and

> graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help from

> an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice because

> the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10 dollars.

>

> "Adam" wrote:

>

> > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.

> > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,

> > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with

> > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.

> >

> > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,

> > which left me with a bad after taste.

> >

> > My AMD CPU system has served me well.

> > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.

> >

> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...

> > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size on my

> > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it was

> > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic

> > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung monitor

but

> > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support it.

I

> > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be

really

> > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.

> > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or

better

> > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon 9500

and

> > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since the

> > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then the

> > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card, I

have

> > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to me

as

> > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel

CPU's

> > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to have a

> > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working

with

> > > their computers(s).

> > >

> > > "Adam" wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:

> > > > >

> > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

LCD.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> > > > >

> > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.

> > > > >

> > > > > - Franc Zabkar

> > > > > --

> > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

> > > >

> > > > I have the following video card ...

> > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

> > > >

> > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

> > > >

> > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about

> > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,

> > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or

> > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and

> > > > destroying my farsighted vision.

> > > >

> >

September 27, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

Sure, I can ask. Please give me a few days. BTW, Adam, have you made sure

that you do not have any loose connections and the dust is clear from your

machine as well as all the connections in the right place for your computer,

right?

"Adam" wrote:

> It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that

> comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.

> If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet, etc.,

> I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.

> No way, no how.

>

> Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to

> the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but

> there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.

> I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.

> But, after the system goes into Win98SE,

> no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!

> Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,

> might know what the problem might be.

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...

> > My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error

> > message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace burned

> > out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still too

> > limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will break a

> > piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so much

> > easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers as far

> > as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules and

> > graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help from

> > an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice because

> > the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10 dollars.

> >

> > "Adam" wrote:

> >

> > > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.

> > > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,

> > > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with

> > > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.

> > >

> > > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,

> > > which left me with a bad after taste.

> > >

> > > My AMD CPU system has served me well.

> > > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.

> > >

> > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...

> > > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size on my

> > > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it was

> > > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic

> > > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung monitor

> but

> > > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support it.

> I

> > > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be

> really

> > > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.

> > > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or

> better

> > > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon 9500

> and

> > > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since the

> > > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then the

> > > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card, I

> have

> > > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to me

> as

> > > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel

> CPU's

> > > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to have a

> > > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working

> with

> > > > their computers(s).

> > > >

> > > > "Adam" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> > > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> > > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

> LCD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm

> > > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> > > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Franc Zabkar

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have the following video card ...

> > > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

> > > > >

> > > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

> > > > >

> > > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about

> > > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,

> > > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or

> > > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and

> > > > > destroying my farsighted vision.

> > > > >

> > >

>

September 27, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

Thanks!

Yes, I believe that is the case but I can check again.

Also, I have tried ...

1) booting into safe mode with the suspected ATI video card

[which shows shower of bad pixel zoomed in]

2) using a different PCI video card instead

[no shower of bad pixel with a different PCI video card]

3) plug the monitor to another system (a laptop)

[no shower of bad pixel with another system so monitor is clear]

Everything seems to point to the suspected ATI video card.

FYI, when the factory fan was removed, I had to

clean off the old paste with rubbing alcohol before

applying new paste to attach the VGA cooler.

This was done as cautiously as possible but

it's only my first time removing/applying paste. So,

I'm not sure whether this might have caused the problem.

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:D2CFC1BE-320E-4D66-9B52-84566478B8C5@microsoft.com...

> Sure, I can ask. Please give me a few days. BTW, Adam, have you made sure

> that you do not have any loose connections and the dust is clear from your

> machine as well as all the connections in the right place for your computer,

> right?

>

> "Adam" wrote:

>

> > It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that

> > comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.

> > If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet, etc.,

> > I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.

> > No way, no how.

> >

> > Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to

> > the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but

> > there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.

> > I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.

> > But, after the system goes into Win98SE,

> > no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!

> > Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,

> > might know what the problem might be.

> >

> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...

> > > My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error

> > > message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace burned

> > > out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still too

> > > limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will break a

> > > piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so much

> > > easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers as

far

> > > as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules and

> > > graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help

from

> > > an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice

because

> > > the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10

dollars.

> > >

> > > "Adam" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.

> > > > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,

> > > > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with

> > > > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.

> > > >

> > > > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,

> > > > which left me with a bad after taste.

> > > >

> > > > My AMD CPU system has served me well.

> > > > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.

> > > >

> > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...

> > > > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size

on my

> > > > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it

was

> > > > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic

> > > > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung

monitor

> > but

> > > > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support

it.

> > I

> > > > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be

> > really

> > > > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.

> > > > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or

> > better

> > > > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon

9500

> > and

> > > > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since

the

> > > > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then

the

> > > > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card,

I

> > have

> > > > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to

me

> > as

> > > > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel

> > CPU's

> > > > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to

have a

> > > > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working

> > with

> > > > > their computers(s).

> > > > >

> > > > > "Adam" wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> > > > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>

put

> > > > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes

....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT

to

> > LCD.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and

I'm

> > > > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> > > > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Franc Zabkar

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have the following video card ...

> > > > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about

> > > > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,

> > > > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or

> > > > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and

> > > > > > destroying my farsighted vision.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> >

September 28, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:28:28 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to

>the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but

>there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.

>I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.

>But, after the system goes into Win98SE,

>no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!

It sounds like your card has a RAM fault that shows up at low

resolutions (eg 720 x 400 @ 70Hz) but not at 1024 x 768.

IME these pixel faults usually appear in regularly spaced vertical

lines.

Do you see the bad pixels if you go to a Windows DOS box and use

Alt-Enter to switch to full screen mode?

- Franc Zabkar

--

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

September 28, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

news:oc6td4dr65ue86slttmsv6f3t4lmi5os9n@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:28:28 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put

> finger to keyboard and composed:

>

> >Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to

> >the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but

> >there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.

> >I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.

> >But, after the system goes into Win98SE,

> >no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!

>

> It sounds like your card has a RAM fault that shows up at low

> resolutions (eg 720 x 400 @ 70Hz) but not at 1024 x 768.

>

> IME these pixel faults usually appear in regularly spaced vertical

> lines.

>

That's right ... they're vertical "shower-like" (not solid) lines.

> Do you see the bad pixels if you go to a Windows DOS box and use

> Alt-Enter to switch to full screen mode?

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

No, I do not see the shower of bad pixels when using ALT+ENTER to

switch the MS-DOS Prompt between a window and full screen.

October 5, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

I would buy a new ATI graphics card. The ATI Radeon 9800 XT that I have is a

great card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition and is still even

supported in Windows Vista and runs about $70 on Ebay. It cost me over $100

when I bought it on Ebay but it is still going strong. Please make sure you

have a strong enough power supply for it. I would suggest at least 300

watts. Anyway, you have heard my thoughts on it Adam and please keep us

informed with your decision and let the 98 general newsgroup walk you through

any steps that you have difficulty with if you decide to buy a new graphics

card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition.

"Adam" wrote:

> Thanks!

>

> Yes, I believe that is the case but I can check again.

> Also, I have tried ...

> 1) booting into safe mode with the suspected ATI video card

> [which shows shower of bad pixel zoomed in]

> 2) using a different PCI video card instead

> [no shower of bad pixel with a different PCI video card]

> 3) plug the monitor to another system (a laptop)

> [no shower of bad pixel with another system so monitor is clear]

>

> Everything seems to point to the suspected ATI video card.

>

> FYI, when the factory fan was removed, I had to

> clean off the old paste with rubbing alcohol before

> applying new paste to attach the VGA cooler.

> This was done as cautiously as possible but

> it's only my first time removing/applying paste. So,

> I'm not sure whether this might have caused the problem.

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:D2CFC1BE-320E-4D66-9B52-84566478B8C5@microsoft.com...

> > Sure, I can ask. Please give me a few days. BTW, Adam, have you made sure

> > that you do not have any loose connections and the dust is clear from your

> > machine as well as all the connections in the right place for your computer,

> > right?

> >

> > "Adam" wrote:

> >

> > > It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that

> > > comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.

> > > If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet, etc.,

> > > I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.

> > > No way, no how.

> > >

> > > Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to

> > > the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but

> > > there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.

> > > I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.

> > > But, after the system goes into Win98SE,

> > > no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!

> > > Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,

> > > might know what the problem might be.

> > >

> > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...

> > > > My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error

> > > > message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace burned

> > > > out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still too

> > > > limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will break a

> > > > piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so much

> > > > easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers as

> far

> > > > as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules and

> > > > graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help

> from

> > > > an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice

> because

> > > > the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10

> dollars.

> > > >

> > > > "Adam" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.

> > > > > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,

> > > > > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with

> > > > > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.

> > > > >

> > > > > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,

> > > > > which left me with a bad after taste.

> > > > >

> > > > > My AMD CPU system has served me well.

> > > > > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.

> > > > >

> > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...

> > > > > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size

> on my

> > > > > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it

> was

> > > > > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic

> > > > > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung

> monitor

> > > but

> > > > > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support

> it.

> > > I

> > > > > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be

> > > really

> > > > > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.

> > > > > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or

> > > better

> > > > > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon

> 9500

> > > and

> > > > > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since

> the

> > > > > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then

> the

> > > > > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card,

> I

> > > have

> > > > > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to

> me

> > > as

> > > > > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel

> > > CPU's

> > > > > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to

> have a

> > > > > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working

> > > with

> > > > > > their computers(s).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Adam" wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> > > > > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>

> put

> > > > > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes

> ....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT

> to

> > > LCD.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and

> I'm

> > > > > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native

> > > > > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - Franc Zabkar

> > > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have the following video card ...

> > > > > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about

> > > > > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,

> > > > > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or

> > > > > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and

> > > > > > > destroying my farsighted vision.

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

>

October 6, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

Thanks but I'll decide whether to buy or not when/if

my video card dies. ;-)

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:985BA943-A488-4C74-9DA9-7FED45FFB056@microsoft.com...

> I would buy a new ATI graphics card. The ATI Radeon 9800 XT that I have is a

> great card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition and is still even

> supported in Windows Vista and runs about $70 on Ebay. It cost me over $100

> when I bought it on Ebay but it is still going strong. Please make sure you

> have a strong enough power supply for it. I would suggest at least 300

> watts. Anyway, you have heard my thoughts on it Adam and please keep us

> informed with your decision and let the 98 general newsgroup walk you through

> any steps that you have difficulty with if you decide to buy a new graphics

> card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition.

>

> "Adam" wrote:

>

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Yes, I believe that is the case but I can check again.

> > Also, I have tried ...

> > 1) booting into safe mode with the suspected ATI video card

> > [which shows shower of bad pixel zoomed in]

> > 2) using a different PCI video card instead

> > [no shower of bad pixel with a different PCI video card]

> > 3) plug the monitor to another system (a laptop)

> > [no shower of bad pixel with another system so monitor is clear]

> >

> > Everything seems to point to the suspected ATI video card.

> >

> > FYI, when the factory fan was removed, I had to

> > clean off the old paste with rubbing alcohol before

> > applying new paste to attach the VGA cooler.

> > This was done as cautiously as possible but

> > it's only my first time removing/applying paste. So,

> > I'm not sure whether this might have caused the problem.

> >

> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:D2CFC1BE-320E-4D66-9B52-84566478B8C5@microsoft.com...

> > > Sure, I can ask. Please give me a few days. BTW, Adam, have you made

sure

> > > that you do not have any loose connections and the dust is clear from your

> > > machine as well as all the connections in the right place for your

computer,

> > > right?

> > >

> > > "Adam" wrote:

> > >

> > > > It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that

> > > > comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.

> > > > If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet,

etc.,

> > > > I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.

> > > > No way, no how.

> > > >

> > > > Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to

> > > > the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but

> > > > there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.

> > > > I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.

> > > > But, after the system goes into Win98SE,

> > > > no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!

> > > > Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,

> > > > might know what the problem might be.

> > > >

> > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...

> > > > > My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error

> > > > > message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace

burned

> > > > > out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still

too

> > > > > limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will

break a

> > > > > piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so

much

> > > > > easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers

as

> > far

> > > > > as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules

and

> > > > > graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help

> > from

> > > > > an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice

> > because

> > > > > the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10

> > dollars.

> > > > >

> > > > > "Adam" wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.

> > > > > > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,

> > > > > > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with

> > > > > > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,

> > > > > > which left me with a bad after taste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My AMD CPU system has served me well.

> > > > > > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...

> > > > > > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen

size

> > on my

> > > > > > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because

it

> > was

> > > > > > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a

Viewsonic

> > > > > > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung

> > monitor

> > > > but

> > > > > > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could

support

> > it.

> > > > I

> > > > > > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to

be

> > > > really

> > > > > > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the

future.

> > > > > > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500

or

> > > > better

> > > > > > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are

Radeon

> > 9500

> > > > and

> > > > > > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever

since

> > the

> > > > > > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and

then

> > the

> > > > > > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon

card,

> > I

> > > > have

> > > > > > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be

helpful to

> > me

> > > > as

> > > > > > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like

Intel

> > > > CPU's

> > > > > > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is

to

> > have a

> > > > > > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys

working

> > > > with

> > > > > > > their computers(s).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Adam" wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> > > > > > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam"

<adam@no_thanks.com>

> > put

> > > > > > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here

goes

> > ....

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from

CRT

> > to

> > > > LCD.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box,

and

> > I'm

> > > > > > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and

greatest.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a

native

> > > > > > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > - Franc Zabkar

> > > > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have the following video card ...

> > > > > > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about

> > > > > > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,

> > > > > > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward

or

> > > > > > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and

> > > > > > > > destroying my farsighted vision.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> >

October 6, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in

news:xFeGk.1814$Ei5.839@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com:

> Thanks but I'll decide whether to buy or not when/if

> my video card dies. ;-)

While you're at it, oh appreciative-of-helpful-suggestions-Adam,

why don't you try deciding how to achieve the oh-so-difficult

task of moving your computer desk/setup/monitor so it does not

cause you any problems?

(BTW, your monitor is NOT destroying your vision, nothing short

of prolonged direct XRay or 100% paint thinner or a sewing

needle "application" can actually HURT your eyes. You're just

getting old. Welcome to the club.)

--

Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the

votes decide everything.

- Josef Stalin

October 6, 2008

Re: best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

It is your choice of course.

"Adam" wrote:

> Thanks but I'll decide whether to buy or not when/if

> my video card dies. ;-)

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:985BA943-A488-4C74-9DA9-7FED45FFB056@microsoft.com...

> > I would buy a new ATI graphics card. The ATI Radeon 9800 XT that I have is a

> > great card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition and is still even

> > supported in Windows Vista and runs about $70 on Ebay. It cost me over $100

> > when I bought it on Ebay but it is still going strong. Please make sure you

> > have a strong enough power supply for it. I would suggest at least 300

> > watts. Anyway, you have heard my thoughts on it Adam and please keep us

> > informed with your decision and let the 98 general newsgroup walk you through

> > any steps that you have difficulty with if you decide to buy a new graphics

> > card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition.

> >

> > "Adam" wrote:

> >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > Yes, I believe that is the case but I can check again.

> > > Also, I have tried ...

> > > 1) booting into safe mode with the suspected ATI video card

> > > [which shows shower of bad pixel zoomed in]

> > > 2) using a different PCI video card instead

> > > [no shower of bad pixel with a different PCI video card]

> > > 3) plug the monitor to another system (a laptop)

> > > [no shower of bad pixel with another system so monitor is clear]

> > >

> > > Everything seems to point to the suspected ATI video card.

> > >

> > > FYI, when the factory fan was removed, I had to

> > > clean off the old paste with rubbing alcohol before

> > > applying new paste to attach the VGA cooler.

> > > This was done as cautiously as possible but

> > > it's only my first time removing/applying paste. So,

> > > I'm not sure whether this might have caused the problem.

> > >

> > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:D2CFC1BE-320E-4D66-9B52-84566478B8C5@microsoft.com...

> > > > Sure, I can ask. Please give me a few days. BTW, Adam, have you made

> sure

> > > > that you do not have any loose connections and the dust is clear from your

> > > > machine as well as all the connections in the right place for your

> computer,

> > > > right?

> > > >

> > > > "Adam" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that

> > > > > comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.

> > > > > If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet,

> etc.,

> > > > > I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.

> > > > > No way, no how.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to

> > > > > the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but

> > > > > there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.

> > > > > I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.

> > > > > But, after the system goes into Win98SE,

> > > > > no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!

> > > > > Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,

> > > > > might know what the problem might be.

> > > > >

> > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > > news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...

> > > > > > My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error

> > > > > > message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace

> burned

> > > > > > out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still

> too

> > > > > > limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will

> break a

> > > > > > piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so

> much

> > > > > > easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers

> as

> > > far

> > > > > > as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules

> and

> > > > > > graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help

> > > from

> > > > > > an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice

> > > because

> > > > > > the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10

> > > dollars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Adam" wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.

> > > > > > > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,

> > > > > > > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with

> > > > > > > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,

> > > > > > > which left me with a bad after taste.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My AMD CPU system has served me well.

> > > > > > > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...

> > > > > > > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen

> size

> > > on my

> > > > > > > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because

> it

> > > was

> > > > > > > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a

> Viewsonic

> > > > > > > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung

> > > monitor

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could

> support

> > > it.

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to

> be

> > > > > really

> > > > > > > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the

> future.

> > > > > > > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500

> or

> > > > > better

> > > > > > > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are

> Radeon

> > > 9500

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever

> since

> > > the

> > > > > > > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and

> then

> > > the

> > > > > > > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon

> card,

> > > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be

> helpful to

> > > me

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like

> Intel

> > > > > CPU's

> > > > > > > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is

> to

> > > have a

> > > > > > > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys

> working

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > their computers(s).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "Adam" wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

> > > > > > > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...

> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam"

> <adam@no_thanks.com>

> > > put

> > > > > > > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here

> goes

> > > ....

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from

> CRT

> > > to

> > > > > LCD.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box,

> and

> > > I'm

> > > > > > > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and

> greatest.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a

> native

> > > > > > > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > - Franc Zabkar

> > > > > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have the following video card ...

> > > > > > > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about

> > > > > > > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,

> > > > > > > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward

> or

> > > > > > > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and

> > > > > > > > > destroying my farsighted vision.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

>

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