Restricted account - OE will not open

September 27, 2008

Hi

I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and when I

click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same ( icons not

layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines, theirs are

splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook express. Switch

them back to administrator and click their name, icons all over the place

and can start outlook.

Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

Any Ideas ?

Cheers

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

"Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

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> Hi

>

> I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and when I

> click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same ( icons not

> layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines, theirs are

> splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook express. Switch

> them back to administrator and click their name, icons all over the place

> and can start outlook.

>

> Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

>

> Any Ideas ?

>

> Cheers

Since we cannot see your screen you need to tell us what exactly happens

when you double-click OE. Furthermore, an OE newsgroup might be a much

better place to post your question.

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

its not an OE problem.

OE doesn't start, you click it and nothing, egg timer for a second and

nothing, no splash screen no window, no error message. Checked processes and

no msimn.exe running.

I would ask how can it be an OE issue when the logged on account looks

different and OE will not run when I switch an administrator account to

restricted. Switch it back to administrator, you know configuring the OS, it

works as normal.

Thank you for your contribution.

p.s yes viruses scanned for, malware, trojan, spyware scans done also

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

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>

> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

> news:u6eZ3uNIJHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Hi

>>

>> I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and when I

>> click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same ( icons not

>> layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines, theirs are

>> splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook express. Switch

>> them back to administrator and click their name, icons all over the place

>> and can start outlook.

>>

>> Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

>>

>> Any Ideas ?

>>

>> Cheers

>

> Since we cannot see your screen you need to tell us what exactly happens

> when you double-click OE. Furthermore, an OE newsgroup might be a much

> better place to post your question.

>

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

Check the Event Logger for relevant messages (eventvwr.exe).

Temporarily promote the new account to be a member of the Administrators

group, then try again. If it works then the problem is caused by incorrect

permissions.

"Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

news:u73575NIJHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> its not an OE problem.

>

> OE doesn't start, you click it and nothing, egg timer for a second and

> nothing, no splash screen no window, no error message. Checked processes

> and no msimn.exe running.

>

> I would ask how can it be an OE issue when the logged on account looks

> different and OE will not run when I switch an administrator account to

> restricted. Switch it back to administrator, you know configuring the OS,

> it works as normal.

>

> Thank you for your contribution.

>

> p.s yes viruses scanned for, malware, trojan, spyware scans done also

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> news:uVu$JyNIJHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

>> news:u6eZ3uNIJHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi

>>>

>>> I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and when

>>> I click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same ( icons

>>> not layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines, theirs are

>>> splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook express. Switch

>>> them back to administrator and click their name, icons all over the

>>> place and can start outlook.

>>>

>>> Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

>>>

>>> Any Ideas ?

>>>

>>> Cheers

>>

>> Since we cannot see your screen you need to tell us what exactly happens

>> when you double-click OE. Furthermore, an OE newsgroup might be a much

>> better place to post your question.

>>

>

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

"Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

news:u6eZ3uNIJHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Hi

>

> I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and when I

> click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same ( icons not

> layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines, theirs are

> splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook express. Switch

> them back to administrator and click their name, icons all over the place

> and can start outlook.

>

> Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

>

> Any Ideas ?

>

> Cheers

Different accounts will use physically different folder structures.

A quick check to confirm it's the same account is to place a marker text

file on the desktop for a specific account - "Kids Account.TXT". It

doesn't matter if it has any contents. Be sure it exists *only* in the

Desktop folder for that account, and NOT in the "All Users" desktop folder.

Now restart with the altered priveliges. If the file is still there, it's

the same account.

What version of XP is this? Tools available in Pro are not available in

Home. And please do be more specific - Outlook is *not* Outlook Express,

though it does rely on OE for internet mail services.

HTH

-pk

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

Pegasus, is your first language English ? or are you playing with me as you

do not seem to understand my english.

This is a home pc, user is an administrator account, all work fine. I wanted

to stop kids installing software so looked at making them a restricted user

but then I hit these problems.

I think Ill goto MSDN just thought this would be a good place to start,

having this problem posted here incase anyone else gets the problem and

someone posts solution.

Thanks

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

news:%23XASHCOIJHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Check the Event Logger for relevant messages (eventvwr.exe).

>

> Temporarily promote the new account to be a member of the Administrators

> group, then try again. If it works then the problem is caused by incorrect

> permissions.

>

> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

> news:u73575NIJHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> its not an OE problem.

>>

>> OE doesn't start, you click it and nothing, egg timer for a second and

>> nothing, no splash screen no window, no error message. Checked processes

>> and no msimn.exe running.

>>

>> I would ask how can it be an OE issue when the logged on account looks

>> different and OE will not run when I switch an administrator account to

>> restricted. Switch it back to administrator, you know configuring the OS,

>> it works as normal.

>>

>> Thank you for your contribution.

>>

>> p.s yes viruses scanned for, malware, trojan, spyware scans done also

>>

>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>> news:uVu$JyNIJHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

>>> news:u6eZ3uNIJHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hi

>>>>

>>>> I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and when

>>>> I click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same ( icons

>>>> not layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines, theirs

>>>> are splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook express.

>>>> Switch them back to administrator and click their name, icons all over

>>>> the place and can start outlook.

>>>>

>>>> Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

>>>>

>>>> Any Ideas ?

>>>>

>>>> Cheers

>>>

>>> Since we cannot see your screen you need to tell us what exactly happens

>>> when you double-click OE. Furthermore, an OE newsgroup might be a much

>>> better place to post your question.

>>>

>>

>

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

*** See below.

"Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

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> Pegasus, is your first language English ?

*** No

> or are you playing with me

*** No

> as you do not seem to understand my english.

*** I do understand you, and I happen to know that the word

*** "English" should be capitalised.

>

> This is a home pc, user is an administrator account, all work fine. I

> wanted to stop kids installing software so looked at making them a

> restricted user but then I hit these problems.

*** So far you don't know what's causing the problem. Temporarily

*** making the kids' account a member of the Admin group may prove

*** that you're dealing with a permission issue. Knowing this would allow

*** you to resolve the issue.

***

*** Since you seek answers here, you should allow yourself to be

*** guided (within certain limits). Snapping back at respondents

*** because you don't understand the reasons for their suggestions

*** won't get you anywhere.

> I think Ill goto MSDN just thought this would be a good place to start,

> having this problem posted here incase anyone else gets the problem and

> someone posts solution.

>

> Thanks

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> news:%23XASHCOIJHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Check the Event Logger for relevant messages (eventvwr.exe).

>>

>> Temporarily promote the new account to be a member of the Administrators

>> group, then try again. If it works then the problem is caused by

>> incorrect permissions.

>>

>> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

>> news:u73575NIJHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> its not an OE problem.

>>>

>>> OE doesn't start, you click it and nothing, egg timer for a second and

>>> nothing, no splash screen no window, no error message. Checked processes

>>> and no msimn.exe running.

>>>

>>> I would ask how can it be an OE issue when the logged on account looks

>>> different and OE will not run when I switch an administrator account to

>>> restricted. Switch it back to administrator, you know configuring the

>>> OS, it works as normal.

>>>

>>> Thank you for your contribution.

>>>

>>> p.s yes viruses scanned for, malware, trojan, spyware scans done also

>>>

>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>>> news:uVu$JyNIJHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:u6eZ3uNIJHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Hi

>>>>>

>>>>> I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and

>>>>> when I click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same

>>>>> ( icons not layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines,

>>>>> theirs are splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook

>>>>> express. Switch them back to administrator and click their name, icons

>>>>> all over the place and can start outlook.

>>>>>

>>>>> Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

>>>>>

>>>>> Any Ideas ?

>>>>>

>>>>> Cheers

>>>>

>>>> Since we cannot see your screen you need to tell us what exactly

>>>> happens when you double-click OE. Furthermore, an OE newsgroup might be

>>>> a much better place to post your question.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

Hi Patrick

Its XP pro, all updates including SP3.... hmmmm ? I wonder...

txt file appeared, so is same account. My typo it is OE definately.

Thanks for input.

"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message

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>

> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

> news:u6eZ3uNIJHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Hi

>>

>> I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and when I

>> click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same ( icons not

>> layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines, theirs are

>> splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook express. Switch

>> them back to administrator and click their name, icons all over the place

>> and can start outlook.

>>

>> Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

>>

>> Any Ideas ?

>>

>> Cheers

>

> Different accounts will use physically different folder structures.

>

> A quick check to confirm it's the same account is to place a marker text

> file on the desktop for a specific account - "Kids Account.TXT". It

> doesn't matter if it has any contents. Be sure it exists *only* in the

> Desktop folder for that account, and NOT in the "All Users" desktop

> folder.

>

> Now restart with the altered priveliges. If the file is still there,

> it's the same account.

>

> What version of XP is this? Tools available in Pro are not available in

> Home. And please do be more specific - Outlook is *not* Outlook Express,

> though it does rely on OE for internet mail services.

>

> HTH

> -pk

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

[Crossposted to OE General]

Please do NOT refer to Outlook Express as "Outlook".

If your kids are using their own User Profile, the functionality of OE in

your User Profile is moot.

See the section "When OE crashes or won't start" here:

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:CUwK4WprPHcJ:www.insideoe.com/problems/errors.htm+insideoe.com/problems/errors.htm%23crash&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

[The page http://www.insideoe.com/problems/errors.htm is not available at

the moment so we must rely on Google's cache of the page for now.]

General OE Caveats:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local

folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working

offline". More at

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:dfjc8_Bv0hQJ:www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm+insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm.&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

[http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm]

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown

your machine if Automatic Compacting is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause

corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional protection,

and even Symantec says it's not necessary:

<QP>

Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that

are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans

incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and

email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To

make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep

Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have

the most recent virus definitions.

</QP>

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP

Teneo wrote:

> I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and when I

> click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same ( icons not

> layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines, theirs are

> splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook express. Switch

> them back to administrator and click their name, icons all over the place

> and can start outlook.

>

> Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

If you understood me then why say make them a member of the admin group ?

Is this something different to being an administrator ?

Yes you are correct, words derived from proper nouns should be capitalised.

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

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> *** See below.

>

> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

> news:OHoABHOIJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Pegasus, is your first language English ?

> *** No

>> or are you playing with me

> *** No

>> as you do not seem to understand my english.

> *** I do understand you, and I happen to know that the word

> *** "English" should be capitalised.

>>

>> This is a home pc, user is an administrator account, all work fine. I

>> wanted to stop kids installing software so looked at making them a

>> restricted user but then I hit these problems.

> *** So far you don't know what's causing the problem. Temporarily

> *** making the kids' account a member of the Admin group may prove

> *** that you're dealing with a permission issue. Knowing this would allow

> *** you to resolve the issue.

> ***

> *** Since you seek answers here, you should allow yourself to be

> *** guided (within certain limits). Snapping back at respondents

> *** because you don't understand the reasons for their suggestions

> *** won't get you anywhere.

>

>> I think Ill goto MSDN just thought this would be a good place to start,

>> having this problem posted here incase anyone else gets the problem and

>> someone posts solution.

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>> news:%23XASHCOIJHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Check the Event Logger for relevant messages (eventvwr.exe).

>>>

>>> Temporarily promote the new account to be a member of the Administrators

>>> group, then try again. If it works then the problem is caused by

>>> incorrect permissions.

>>>

>>> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

>>> news:u73575NIJHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> its not an OE problem.

>>>>

>>>> OE doesn't start, you click it and nothing, egg timer for a second and

>>>> nothing, no splash screen no window, no error message. Checked

>>>> processes and no msimn.exe running.

>>>>

>>>> I would ask how can it be an OE issue when the logged on account looks

>>>> different and OE will not run when I switch an administrator account to

>>>> restricted. Switch it back to administrator, you know configuring the

>>>> OS, it works as normal.

>>>>

>>>> Thank you for your contribution.

>>>>

>>>> p.s yes viruses scanned for, malware, trojan, spyware scans done also

>>>>

>>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>>>> news:uVu$JyNIJHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:u6eZ3uNIJHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Hi

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and

>>>>>> when I click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same

>>>>>> ( icons not layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines,

>>>>>> theirs are splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook

>>>>>> express. Switch them back to administrator and click their name,

>>>>>> icons all over the place and can start outlook.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Any Ideas ?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Cheers

>>>>>

>>>>> Since we cannot see your screen you need to tell us what exactly

>>>>> happens when you double-click OE. Furthermore, an OE newsgroup might

>>>>> be a much better place to post your question.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

PA Bear, thank you for your contribution and link.

I do not think it is applicable fully as I do not get any of these messages

quoted also it works when they are an administrator not when I put them as a

user i.e delete member of administrator.

It must be a permission problem somewhere and will be experimenting with

other groups.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> [Crossposted to OE General]

>

> Please do NOT refer to Outlook Express as "Outlook".

>

> If your kids are using their own User Profile, the functionality of OE in

> your User Profile is moot.

>

> See the section "When OE crashes or won't start" here:

> http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:CUwK4WprPHcJ:www.insideoe.com/problems/errors.htm+insideoe.com/problems/errors.htm%23crash&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

>

> [The page http://www.insideoe.com/problems/errors.htm is not available at

> the moment so we must rely on Google's cache of the page for now.]

>

> General OE Caveats:

>

> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local

> folders created for this purpose.

>

> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

>

> - Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working

> offline". More at

> http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:dfjc8_Bv0hQJ:www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm+insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm.&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

> [http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm]

>

> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown

> your machine if Automatic Compacting is taking place.

>

> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause

> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional protection,

> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:

>

> <QP>

> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses

> that are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect

> scans incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email

> and email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of

> this. To make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection,

> keep Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you

> have the most recent virus definitions.

> </QP>

> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106

> --

> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP

>

> Teneo wrote:

>> I put my kids logon account on restricted, from administrator, and when I

>> click their name and login the desktop is not quite the same ( icons not

>> layed out the way they have it but all nice and in lines, theirs are

>> splattered all over the place ) and cannot start outlook express. Switch

>> them back to administrator and click their name, icons all over the place

>> and can start outlook.

>>

>> Its as if it is a different account when in restricted mode.

>

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

"Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

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> If you understood me then why say make them a member of the admin group ?

>

> Is this something different to being an administrator ?

The account you created for your kids could be flawed. If it is then

including it in the Administrator's group won't fix the problem but you'll

know that the account is damaged.

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

Can I explain again...

The kids were always a member of the administrator group. I took them out so

just a member of 'users' and when they login apart from icons in a different

layout OE will not start. Put them back in member of administrators and

works fine.

I put them in power users and all is ok. Icons in there normal layout for

the kids and OE starts. Its only if they are just a member of users, funny

things happen.

I just need to look up what a power user can do, looks like they can still

install software... :-(

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

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>

> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

> news:u0M$daOIJHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> If you understood me then why say make them a member of the admin group ?

>>

>> Is this something different to being an administrator ?

>

> The account you created for your kids could be flawed. If it is then

> including it in the Administrator's group won't fix the problem but you'll

> know that the account is damaged.

>

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

"Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

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> Can I explain again...

>

> The kids were always a member of the administrator group. I took them out

> so just a member of 'users' and when they login apart from icons in a

> different layout OE will not start. Put them back in member of

> administrators and works fine.

>

> I put them in power users and all is ok. Icons in there normal layout for

> the kids and OE starts. Its only if they are just a member of users, funny

> things happen.

>

> I just need to look up what a power user can do, looks like they can still

> install software... :-(

I would now check the permissions of the following files:

- C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe

- The various OE .dbx files

If you run WinXP Professional then you can do this with Windows Explore. If

you run WinXP Home then you need to use cacls.exe while in Normal Mode.

September 27, 2008

Re: Restricted account - OE will not open

It may be simpler just to (1) create a new User Profile for the kids (w/out

Administrative privileges), (2) copy the old User Profile's data to the new

User Profile (cf. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811151), (3) backup &

import the old User Profile's OE data into the new User Profile's OE

identity (http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx), and then (4) Delete the old

User Profile.

More suggestions for keeping your kids (and your computer) safe are

discussed here: http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=30095

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Teneo wrote:

> Can I explain again...

>

> The kids were always a member of the administrator group. I took them out

> so

> just a member of 'users' and when they login apart from icons in a

> different

> layout OE will not start. Put them back in member of administrators and

> works fine.

>

> I put them in power users and all is ok. Icons in there normal layout for

> the kids and OE starts. Its only if they are just a member of users, funny

> things happen.

>

> I just need to look up what a power user can do, looks like they can still

> install software... :-(

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> news:uNw6IeOIJHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Teneo" <not@here.com> wrote in message

>> news:u0M$daOIJHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> If you understood me then why say make them a member of the admin group

>>> ?

>>>

>>> Is this something different to being an administrator ?

>>

>> The account you created for your kids could be flawed. If it is then

>> including it in the Administrator's group won't fix the problem but

>> you'll

>> know that the account is damaged.

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