Guest Jo Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 This is driving me nuts! I don't know if it's just SP3 in general or if it's this useless file indexing thing or what, but my computer runs MUCH slower, it sometimes hangs when a program is trying to read a directory, and often the thumbnails it shows are only a fraction of the regular thumbnail size and I have to click refresh to get the fill size. This is supposed to be an improvement how??? When I looked in Windows Help to see if I could shut it off, it tells me there should be a "Fast Find" or something in the control panel. Not! I did find "Indexing Options" but it only gives me options, not the ability to shut that feature down. I tried to unclick everything I could find, hoping that would do the trick, but when I tried to access a file from FrontPage, FP went into a loop taking up 99% of the CPU and I had to crash the thing to get out of the tailspin (an example of how it hangs my machine -- and I was luck I didn't have to crash the whole computer to get it to stop). This is insane. Can someone please tell me how I can get rid of this thing? Is there anything in SP3 worth keeping, or should I just try to roll it back to SP2? Is that even an option at this point?? Thanks for the help.
Guest JS Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: SP3 file indexing ARG!! You can "Stop" the Indexing service: Start/Run and then enter: services.msc Scroll down the list of service and click to highlight the Indexing Service Right click and select 'Properties' and set the 'Start type' to: Manual. Front Page: It's been a while since I've used Front Page but if doesn't mess up anything you have developed try uninstalling and reinstalling Front Page and any updates. And yes there is an option in Add/Remove to uninstall SP3. JS http://www.pagestart.com "Jo" <Jo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DF5F0264-09A3-4B73-8903-DF0CA1F760B2@microsoft.com... > This is driving me nuts! I don't know if it's just SP3 in general or if > it's > this useless file indexing thing or what, but my computer runs MUCH > slower, > it sometimes hangs when a program is trying to read a directory, and often > the thumbnails it shows are only a fraction of the regular thumbnail size > and > I have to click refresh to get the fill size. This is supposed to be an > improvement how??? > > When I looked in Windows Help to see if I could shut it off, it tells me > there should be a "Fast Find" or something in the control panel. Not! I > did > find "Indexing Options" but it only gives me options, not the ability to > shut > that feature down. I tried to unclick everything I could find, hoping that > would do the trick, but when I tried to access a file from FrontPage, FP > went > into a loop taking up 99% of the CPU and I had to crash the thing to get > out > of the tailspin (an example of how it hangs my machine -- and I was luck I > didn't have to crash the whole computer to get it to stop). This is > insane. > > Can someone please tell me how I can get rid of this thing? Is there > anything in SP3 worth keeping, or should I just try to roll it back to > SP2? > Is that even an option at this point?? > > Thanks for the help.
Guest Jo Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: SP3 file indexing ARG!! Thanks JS. However, when I looked it up, it was already set to Manual. ?? And yet, when I mouse-over the little search icon in the system tray, it tells me "indexing speed is reduced due to user activity." (Only Microsoft could complain because its user is interfering with its computing time!) So if this indexing is supposed to be "stopped" (its status in the properties window) and only activated when I tell it to (which I don't ...not that I'm aware of anyway), then why is it telling me it's indexing? And sometimes the icon glows and is apparently indexing. Do you have any idea why it seems to be so all over the place? Thx. "JS" wrote: > You can "Stop" the Indexing service: > Start/Run and then enter: services.msc > Scroll down the list of service and click to highlight the Indexing Service > Right click and select 'Properties' and set the 'Start type' to: Manual. > > Front Page: > It's been a while since I've used Front Page > but if doesn't mess up anything you have developed try > uninstalling and reinstalling Front Page and any updates. > > And yes there is an option in Add/Remove to uninstall SP3. > > JS > http://www.pagestart.com > > > "Jo" <Jo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:DF5F0264-09A3-4B73-8903-DF0CA1F760B2@microsoft.com... > > This is driving me nuts! I don't know if it's just SP3 in general or if > > it's > > this useless file indexing thing or what, but my computer runs MUCH > > slower, > > it sometimes hangs when a program is trying to read a directory, and often > > the thumbnails it shows are only a fraction of the regular thumbnail size > > and > > I have to click refresh to get the fill size. This is supposed to be an > > improvement how??? > > > > When I looked in Windows Help to see if I could shut it off, it tells me > > there should be a "Fast Find" or something in the control panel. Not! I > > did > > find "Indexing Options" but it only gives me options, not the ability to > > shut > > that feature down. I tried to unclick everything I could find, hoping that > > would do the trick, but when I tried to access a file from FrontPage, FP > > went > > into a loop taking up 99% of the CPU and I had to crash the thing to get > > out > > of the tailspin (an example of how it hangs my machine -- and I was luck I > > didn't have to crash the whole computer to get it to stop). This is > > insane. > > > > Can someone please tell me how I can get rid of this thing? Is there > > anything in SP3 worth keeping, or should I just try to roll it back to > > SP2? > > Is that even an option at this point?? > > > > Thanks for the help. > > >
Guest Doug W. Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: SP3 file indexing ARG!! You can also set it to "disable". That should "fix" it. - "JS" <@> wrote in message news:OSXHF7RIJHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > You can "Stop" the Indexing service: > Start/Run and then enter: services.msc > Scroll down the list of service and click to highlight the > Indexing Service > Right click and select 'Properties' and set the 'Start type' > to: Manual. > > Front Page: > It's been a while since I've used Front Page > but if doesn't mess up anything you have developed try > uninstalling and reinstalling Front Page and any updates. > > And yes there is an option in Add/Remove to uninstall SP3. > > JS > http://www.pagestart.com > > > "Jo" <Jo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:DF5F0264-09A3-4B73-8903-DF0CA1F760B2@microsoft.com... >> This is driving me nuts! I don't know if it's just SP3 in >> general or if it's >> this useless file indexing thing or what, but my computer >> runs MUCH slower, >> it sometimes hangs when a program is trying to read a >> directory, and often >> the thumbnails it shows are only a fraction of the regular >> thumbnail size and >> I have to click refresh to get the fill size. This is >> supposed to be an >> improvement how??? >> >> When I looked in Windows Help to see if I could shut it off, >> it tells me >> there should be a "Fast Find" or something in the control >> panel. Not! I did >> find "Indexing Options" but it only gives me options, not the >> ability to shut >> that feature down. I tried to unclick everything I could >> find, hoping that >> would do the trick, but when I tried to access a file from >> FrontPage, FP went >> into a loop taking up 99% of the CPU and I had to crash the >> thing to get out >> of the tailspin (an example of how it hangs my machine -- and >> I was luck I >> didn't have to crash the whole computer to get it to stop). >> This is insane. >> >> Can someone please tell me how I can get rid of this thing? >> Is there >> anything in SP3 worth keeping, or should I just try to roll >> it back to SP2? >> Is that even an option at this point?? >> >> Thanks for the help. > >
Guest Jo Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: SP3 file indexing ARG!! Thanks Doug, I'll give that a try and see if it helps. "Doug W." wrote: > You can also set it to "disable". That should "fix" it. > - > > "JS" <@> wrote in message > news:OSXHF7RIJHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > You can "Stop" the Indexing service: > > Start/Run and then enter: services.msc > > Scroll down the list of service and click to highlight the > > Indexing Service > > Right click and select 'Properties' and set the 'Start type' > > to: Manual. > > > > Front Page: > > It's been a while since I've used Front Page > > but if doesn't mess up anything you have developed try > > uninstalling and reinstalling Front Page and any updates. > > > > And yes there is an option in Add/Remove to uninstall SP3. > > > > JS > > http://www.pagestart.com > > > > > > "Jo" <Jo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:DF5F0264-09A3-4B73-8903-DF0CA1F760B2@microsoft.com... > >> This is driving me nuts! I don't know if it's just SP3 in > >> general or if it's > >> this useless file indexing thing or what, but my computer > >> runs MUCH slower, > >> it sometimes hangs when a program is trying to read a > >> directory, and often > >> the thumbnails it shows are only a fraction of the regular > >> thumbnail size and > >> I have to click refresh to get the fill size. This is > >> supposed to be an > >> improvement how??? > >> > >> When I looked in Windows Help to see if I could shut it off, > >> it tells me > >> there should be a "Fast Find" or something in the control > >> panel. Not! I did > >> find "Indexing Options" but it only gives me options, not the > >> ability to shut > >> that feature down. I tried to unclick everything I could > >> find, hoping that > >> would do the trick, but when I tried to access a file from > >> FrontPage, FP went > >> into a loop taking up 99% of the CPU and I had to crash the > >> thing to get out > >> of the tailspin (an example of how it hangs my machine -- and > >> I was luck I > >> didn't have to crash the whole computer to get it to stop). > >> This is insane. > >> > >> Can someone please tell me how I can get rid of this thing? > >> Is there > >> anything in SP3 worth keeping, or should I just try to roll > >> it back to SP2? > >> Is that even an option at this point?? > >> > >> Thanks for the help. > > > > > >
Guest JS Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: SP3 file indexing ARG!! Was the service running, if so then something started it. Do as Doug mentioned and set it to "Disabled". You can reboot at this point as see if the problem goes away. JS "Jo" <Jo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:73E3EADC-3FCF-4DB8-8623-2898EFAEC542@microsoft.com... > Thanks JS. However, when I looked it up, it was already set to Manual. ?? > And > yet, when I mouse-over the little search icon in the system tray, it tells > me > "indexing speed is reduced due to user activity." (Only Microsoft could > complain because its user is interfering with its computing time!) So if > this > indexing is supposed to be "stopped" (its status in the properties window) > and only activated when I tell it to (which I don't ...not that I'm aware > of > anyway), then why is it telling me it's indexing? And sometimes the icon > glows and is apparently indexing. Do you have any idea why it seems to be > so > all over the place? Thx. > > "JS" wrote: > >> You can "Stop" the Indexing service: >> Start/Run and then enter: services.msc >> Scroll down the list of service and click to highlight the Indexing >> Service >> Right click and select 'Properties' and set the 'Start type' to: Manual. >> >> Front Page: >> It's been a while since I've used Front Page >> but if doesn't mess up anything you have developed try >> uninstalling and reinstalling Front Page and any updates. >> >> And yes there is an option in Add/Remove to uninstall SP3. >> >> JS >> http://www.pagestart.com >> >> >> "Jo" <Jo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:DF5F0264-09A3-4B73-8903-DF0CA1F760B2@microsoft.com... >> > This is driving me nuts! I don't know if it's just SP3 in general or if >> > it's >> > this useless file indexing thing or what, but my computer runs MUCH >> > slower, >> > it sometimes hangs when a program is trying to read a directory, and >> > often >> > the thumbnails it shows are only a fraction of the regular thumbnail >> > size >> > and >> > I have to click refresh to get the fill size. This is supposed to be an >> > improvement how??? >> > >> > When I looked in Windows Help to see if I could shut it off, it tells >> > me >> > there should be a "Fast Find" or something in the control panel. Not! I >> > did >> > find "Indexing Options" but it only gives me options, not the ability >> > to >> > shut >> > that feature down. I tried to unclick everything I could find, hoping >> > that >> > would do the trick, but when I tried to access a file from FrontPage, >> > FP >> > went >> > into a loop taking up 99% of the CPU and I had to crash the thing to >> > get >> > out >> > of the tailspin (an example of how it hangs my machine -- and I was >> > luck I >> > didn't have to crash the whole computer to get it to stop). This is >> > insane. >> > >> > Can someone please tell me how I can get rid of this thing? Is there >> > anything in SP3 worth keeping, or should I just try to roll it back to >> > SP2? >> > Is that even an option at this point?? >> > >> > Thanks for the help. >> >> >>
Guest John John (MVP) Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: SP3 file indexing ARG!! It was set to Manual but was it started? You can disable the service if you want. I think the problem is with Office Find Fast, it is probably starting the Indexing Service, you have to go in the Office setup options and remove Find Fast. OFFXP: Hard Disk Runs Continuously After You Install Office XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282106/EN-US/ John Jo wrote: > Thanks JS. However, when I looked it up, it was already set to Manual. ?? And > yet, when I mouse-over the little search icon in the system tray, it tells me > "indexing speed is reduced due to user activity." (Only Microsoft could > complain because its user is interfering with its computing time!) So if this > indexing is supposed to be "stopped" (its status in the properties window) > and only activated when I tell it to (which I don't ...not that I'm aware of > anyway), then why is it telling me it's indexing? And sometimes the icon > glows and is apparently indexing. Do you have any idea why it seems to be so > all over the place? Thx. > > "JS" wrote: > > >>You can "Stop" the Indexing service: >>Start/Run and then enter: services.msc >>Scroll down the list of service and click to highlight the Indexing Service >>Right click and select 'Properties' and set the 'Start type' to: Manual. >> >>Front Page: >>It's been a while since I've used Front Page >>but if doesn't mess up anything you have developed try >>uninstalling and reinstalling Front Page and any updates. >> >>And yes there is an option in Add/Remove to uninstall SP3. >> >>JS >>http://www.pagestart.com >> >> >>"Jo" <Jo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>news:DF5F0264-09A3-4B73-8903-DF0CA1F760B2@microsoft.com... >> >>>This is driving me nuts! I don't know if it's just SP3 in general or if >>>it's >>>this useless file indexing thing or what, but my computer runs MUCH >>>slower, >>>it sometimes hangs when a program is trying to read a directory, and often >>>the thumbnails it shows are only a fraction of the regular thumbnail size >>>and >>>I have to click refresh to get the fill size. This is supposed to be an >>>improvement how??? >>> >>>When I looked in Windows Help to see if I could shut it off, it tells me >>>there should be a "Fast Find" or something in the control panel. Not! I >>>did >>>find "Indexing Options" but it only gives me options, not the ability to >>>shut >>>that feature down. I tried to unclick everything I could find, hoping that >>>would do the trick, but when I tried to access a file from FrontPage, FP >>>went >>>into a loop taking up 99% of the CPU and I had to crash the thing to get >>>out >>>of the tailspin (an example of how it hangs my machine -- and I was luck I >>>didn't have to crash the whole computer to get it to stop). This is >>>insane. >>> >>>Can someone please tell me how I can get rid of this thing? Is there >>>anything in SP3 worth keeping, or should I just try to roll it back to >>>SP2? >>>Is that even an option at this point?? >>> >>>Thanks for the help. >> >> >>
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: SP3 file indexing ARG!! Is Windows Search v4.0 installed? How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 3 from your computer: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950249 WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada. Go to http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select "Windows XP" then select "Windows XP Service Pack 3" -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ Jo wrote: > This is driving me nuts! I don't know if it's just SP3 in general or if > it's > this useless file indexing thing or what, but my computer runs MUCH > slower, > it sometimes hangs when a program is trying to read a directory, and often > the thumbnails it shows are only a fraction of the regular thumbnail size > and I have to click refresh to get the fill size. This is supposed to be > an > improvement how??? > > When I looked in Windows Help to see if I could shut it off, it tells me > there should be a "Fast Find" or something in the control panel. Not! I > did > find "Indexing Options" but it only gives me options, not the ability to > shut that feature down. I tried to unclick everything I could find, hoping > that would do the trick, but when I tried to access a file from FrontPage, > FP went into a loop taking up 99% of the CPU and I had to crash the thing > to get out of the tailspin (an example of how it hangs my machine -- and I > was luck I didn't have to crash the whole computer to get it to stop). > This > is insane. > > Can someone please tell me how I can get rid of this thing? Is there > anything in SP3 worth keeping, or should I just try to roll it back to > SP2? > Is that even an option at this point?? > > Thanks for the help.
Guest Jo Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Re: SP3 file indexing ARG!! Thanks for the referral John, but unfortunately that article seems to be misleading or not always accurate. It says to select Add/Remove programs and another window is supposed to come up letting you selectively add or remove program features. The problem was that this didn't come up and I wound up inadvertently uninstalling my whole Office package and having to reinstall it again. Not exactly the way I wanted to spend my Sunday afternoon. In any case, when I checked Office before that, to turn off the indexing in Office as the article says, it already showed as disabled. Maybe that was because I had disabled it in Windows Services last night, I don't know. I still see the icon in the system tray (which was added since SP3 was installed) and it still says "indexing speed is reduced due to user activity," suggesting that it at least *thinks* it's still indexing. Anyway, I guess I'll just see what happens and try to live with it if I can. I appreciate you trying to help, though. "John John (MVP)" wrote: > It was set to Manual but was it started? You can disable the service if > you want. I think the problem is with Office Find Fast, it is probably > starting the Indexing Service, you have to go in the Office setup > options and remove Find Fast. > > OFFXP: Hard Disk Runs Continuously After You Install Office XP > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282106/EN-US/ > > John > > Jo wrote: > > > Thanks JS. However, when I looked it up, it was already set to Manual. ?? And > > yet, when I mouse-over the little search icon in the system tray, it tells me > > "indexing speed is reduced due to user activity." (Only Microsoft could > > complain because its user is interfering with its computing time!) So if this > > indexing is supposed to be "stopped" (its status in the properties window) > > and only activated when I tell it to (which I don't ...not that I'm aware of > > anyway), then why is it telling me it's indexing? And sometimes the icon > > glows and is apparently indexing. Do you have any idea why it seems to be so > > all over the place? Thx. > > > > "JS" wrote: > > > > > >>You can "Stop" the Indexing service: > >>Start/Run and then enter: services.msc > >>Scroll down the list of service and click to highlight the Indexing Service > >>Right click and select 'Properties' and set the 'Start type' to: Manual. > >> > >>Front Page: > >>It's been a while since I've used Front Page > >>but if doesn't mess up anything you have developed try > >>uninstalling and reinstalling Front Page and any updates. > >> > >>And yes there is an option in Add/Remove to uninstall SP3. > >> > >>JS > >>http://www.pagestart.com > >> > >> > >>"Jo" <Jo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>news:DF5F0264-09A3-4B73-8903-DF0CA1F760B2@microsoft.com... > >> > >>>This is driving me nuts! I don't know if it's just SP3 in general or if > >>>it's > >>>this useless file indexing thing or what, but my computer runs MUCH > >>>slower, > >>>it sometimes hangs when a program is trying to read a directory, and often > >>>the thumbnails it shows are only a fraction of the regular thumbnail size > >>>and > >>>I have to click refresh to get the fill size. This is supposed to be an > >>>improvement how??? > >>> > >>>When I looked in Windows Help to see if I could shut it off, it tells me > >>>there should be a "Fast Find" or something in the control panel. Not! I > >>>did > >>>find "Indexing Options" but it only gives me options, not the ability to > >>>shut > >>>that feature down. I tried to unclick everything I could find, hoping that > >>>would do the trick, but when I tried to access a file from FrontPage, FP > >>>went > >>>into a loop taking up 99% of the CPU and I had to crash the thing to get > >>>out > >>>of the tailspin (an example of how it hangs my machine -- and I was luck I > >>>didn't have to crash the whole computer to get it to stop). This is > >>>insane. > >>> > >>>Can someone please tell me how I can get rid of this thing? Is there > >>>anything in SP3 worth keeping, or should I just try to roll it back to > >>>SP2? > >>>Is that even an option at this point?? > >>> > >>>Thanks for the help. > >> > >> > >> >
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