jnjani Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Packard Bell Desktop with Intel Dual-Core motherboard shuts down in two seconds. CPU fan and PSU fan starts and shuts down immediately. Checked with spare PSU - No change Edited May 14, 2012 by jnjani Quote
KenB Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Hi and welcome to ExTS This could be a number of things - but it does sound like hardware to me. Switch off at the wall but leave the plug in. This maintains the earth connection to the motherboard. Try taking the RAM out. Switch on with the RAM out of the system. You should get POST beeps - if you do this is good :) If you do get beeps then put just one RAM module back and try booting again. If the problem returns - swap the RAM over. Don't forget to switch off at the wall if you are going inside the case again. Let me know the results in a little detail please. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
KenB Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Right - no beeps indicates that there is possibly a problem with the motherboard or Power Supply Unit. ( this assumes that you were getting a single beep before ?? ) I have a tutorial that explains whet to do next - assuming that you have an internal speaker connected. http://kenspchelp.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=172 If you don't have an internal speaker still follow the tutorial - but you need to check that the system is stable and not shutting down. If it is stable with all of the hardware and connections removed then putting them back one at a time and testing after each is the way to go. The system should run the fans etc without restarting. Adding the hardware etc one at a time ( testing after each addition ) will [ hopefully ] indicate the problem when the system crashes again. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
jnjani Posted May 16, 2012 Author Posted May 16, 2012 First of all THANKS for superb tutorial. If I could't fix this PC, this tutorial will always be informative and helpful. Now coming to issue, I assume that "internal speaker" refers to Buzzer on board (normally of black colour). If it is true, there is no single beep even. There is no extra hardware. What ever is there is on-board. System is not stable. There is no chance to check anything as it shuts down almost instantly. All I can see is PSU and CPU fan starts for two seconds only. I haven't made any change in hardware of software before this issue. I am sure there is no problem with power supply unit as same power supply works fine in other PC. Just to cross check I have tried other power supply unit with this PC and there is no change. Quote
KenB Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 If you have removed all of the hardware and connections ( re Tutorial ) and you know the PSU is good - the only possible thing it can be is the motherboard. You could try removing everything ( except the 20 way power connection ) unscrew the m/board and sit it on a piece of card or newspaper to insulate it from the case. Switch on. If it doesn't shut down then there was a short between the m/board and the case. Internal Speaker ( 2 types ) [ATTACH=CONFIG]743.vB5-legacyid=1521[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]744.vB5-legacyid=1522[/ATTACH] Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
jnjani Posted May 16, 2012 Author Posted May 16, 2012 Well, this time there IS a change. Removed motherboard from case and started with only 20/24 pin socket. It doesn't shut down - But when I attached 12 volt it again shuts down as previously. There is no beep. Quote
KenB Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 But when I attached 12 volt it again shuts down Which 12v are you referring to ? Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
jnjani Posted May 17, 2012 Author Posted May 17, 2012 Four pin socket with two yellow and two black wire Quote
timez Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Make sure the 4 pin connector isnt the +4 pin from the 20+4 pin connector - if you can clip it onto the 20 pin connector then its the wrong one. There should be an extra 4 pin connector that doesnt clip onto the 20 pin one. This assumes your PSU has a 20+4 pin connector - and not just a 20 pin one (as i say - test this by seeing if you can get the 4 pin one to go onto and stay on the 20 pin connector. Timez Quote
jnjani Posted December 24, 2012 Author Posted December 24, 2012 Its a 12 volt square plug usually with two yellow and two black wire and entirely different from ATX 20 or 24 pin plug. Quote
KenB Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 Hi It seems that we have not kept this thread going - started in May :) Is this the connection you are referring to ? http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/12v4pinindex.jpg This is the 20 (4) connection - it has a red wire on the 4 pin connection http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/main20plus4index.jpg Where on the motherboard are you connecting it ? Will the system boot up if you leave it off ? Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
jnjani Posted December 26, 2012 Author Posted December 26, 2012 YES, I'm referring to this connection (first photograph of white connector). I am connecting this connector at 'ATX 12 V' (located exactly opposite to 24 pin 'ATX POWER' connector) . System will not boot up if I leave it off. Quote
KenB Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 System will not boot up if I leave it off. If it is this one ( see pic below ) it is powering the Central Processor. [ATTACH=CONFIG]927.vB5-legacyid=1810[/ATTACH] In your first post you said that you had tried a spare PSU - no change. It therefore looks like either the motherboard or CPU are at fault. You could phone a local tech ( small one man business is usually best ) and ask if they can test them for you. Also ask how much. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
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