Aero - cannot get it run

[Guest Thorsten Butz]

Has anyone ever tried to get Aero run from a TS-client? I do not speak

about "theory" - I mean: did you see it yourself?

 

From my point of view it should be possible to view

Aero-style-seamless-windows (or remoteapps) if you fullfill the

following requirements:

 

- Desktop Experience + Themes-service + Vista-Style at the Terminal Server

 

- Allow 32-bit color depth in the TS-Settings at the server

 

- Have aero enabled at the client and choose "Desktop composition" and

"Font smooting".

 

I tried it several times and never succeeded. I have an aero-capaple

(and of course enabled) WS 2008-Client, I see Vista-style-windows but no

transparency.

 

Did you get it run?

Thorsten

[Guest Miles Li [MSFT]]

RE: Aero - cannot get it run

 

 

Hello Thorsten,

 

Thank you for posting here.

 

According to your description, I understand that:

 

You have a concern about the Aero feature when connecting a Terminal server.

 

If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.

 

Based on my research, Windows Server 2008 has no support for Windows Aero

theme over TS.

 

The new desktop composition feature fundamentally changes the way

applications display pixels on the screen in Windows Vista and Windows

Server 2008. When desktop composition is enabled, individual windows no

longer draw directly to the screen or primary display device as they did in

previous versions of Microsoft Windows. Instead, their drawing is

redirected to off-screen surfaces in video memory, which are then rendered

into a desktop image and presented on the display.

 

Desktop composition is performed by the Desktop Window Manager (DWM).

Through desktop composition, DWM enables visual effects on the desktop as

well as various features, such as glass window frames, Aero.

 

However, as the Desktop Window Manager (DWM) is turned off when a TS

connection is started in Windows Server 2008 Aero is not supported through

Terminal Service.

 

Related information for your reference:

 

Create Special Effects With The Desktop Window Manager

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc163435.aspx

 

Desktop Window Manager

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa969540.aspx

 

Under the Hood of the Desktop Window Manager

http://blogs.msdn.com/greg_schechter/archive/2006/03/05/544314.aspx

 

Hope this helps. Also, if you have any questions or concerns, please do not

hesitate to let me know.

 

 

Best regards,

Miles Li

 

Microsoft Online Partner Support

Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

 

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[Guest jolteroli]

Re: Aero - cannot get it run

 

The desktop composition over RDP has been disabled since the RC0 build. It

was available in the beta 3 still, so the posts might be related to this

beta version.

 

-jolt

 

"Thorsten Butz" <thbutz@community.nospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

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> Has anyone ever tried to get Aero run from a TS-client? I do not speak

> about "theory" - I mean: did you see it yourself?

>

> From my point of view it should be possible to view

> Aero-style-seamless-windows (or remoteapps) if you fullfill the

> following requirements:

>

> - Desktop Experience + Themes-service + Vista-Style at the Terminal Server

>

> - Allow 32-bit color depth in the TS-Settings at the server

>

> - Have aero enabled at the client and choose "Desktop composition" and

> "Font smooting".

>

> I tried it several times and never succeeded. I have an aero-capaple

> (and of course enabled) WS 2008-Client, I see Vista-style-windows but no

> transparency.

>

> Did you get it run?

> Thorsten

[Guest Thorsten Butz]

Re: Aero - cannot get it run

 

Thanks to all of you for your support;

I will proove the scenarios, but I am sure, that I read 1000 times, that

this "feature" shoud be possible.

 

Thorsten

 

 

 

01.10.2008 11:20, Miles Li [MSFT]s Mail:

> Hello Thorsten,

>

> Thank you for posting here.

>

> According to your description, I understand that:

>

> You have a concern about the Aero feature when connecting a Terminal server.

>

> If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate to let me know.

>

> Based on my research, Windows Server 2008 has no support for Windows Aero

> theme over TS.

>

> The new desktop composition feature fundamentally changes the way

> applications display pixels on the screen in Windows Vista and Windows

> Server 2008. When desktop composition is enabled, individual windows no

> longer draw directly to the screen or primary display device as they did in

> previous versions of Microsoft Windows. Instead, their drawing is

> redirected to off-screen surfaces in video memory, which are then rendered

> into a desktop image and presented on the display.

>

> Desktop composition is performed by the Desktop Window Manager (DWM).

> Through desktop composition, DWM enables visual effects on the desktop as

> well as various features, such as glass window frames, Aero.

>

> However, as the Desktop Window Manager (DWM) is turned off when a TS

> connection is started in Windows Server 2008 Aero is not supported through

> Terminal Service.

>

> Related information for your reference:

>

> Create Special Effects With The Desktop Window Manager

> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc163435.aspx

>

> Desktop Window Manager

> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa969540.aspx

>

> Under the Hood of the Desktop Window Manager

> http://blogs.msdn.com/greg_schechter/archive/2006/03/05/544314.aspx

>

> Hope this helps. Also, if you have any questions or concerns, please do not

> hesitate to let me know.

>

>

> Best regards,

> Miles Li

>

> Microsoft Online Partner Support

> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

>

> Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security

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> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.

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>

[Guest Hank Arnold (MVP)]

Re: Aero - cannot get it run

 

Thorsten Butz wrote:

> Has anyone ever tried to get Aero run from a TS-client? I do not speak

> about "theory" - I mean: did you see it yourself?

>

> From my point of view it should be possible to view

> Aero-style-seamless-windows (or remoteapps) if you fullfill the

> following requirements:

>

> - Desktop Experience + Themes-service + Vista-Style at the Terminal Server

>

> - Allow 32-bit color depth in the TS-Settings at the server

>

> - Have aero enabled at the client and choose "Desktop composition" and

> "Font smooting".

>

> I tried it several times and never succeeded. I have an aero-capaple

> (and of course enabled) WS 2008-Client, I see Vista-style-windows but no

> transparency.

>

> Did you get it run?

> Thorsten

 

I'd be very reluctant to run *anything* on a TS server like that. I'd

lump it int he same box as screen savers, wallpaper, etc.. Resource

drains with not much benefit...

 

--

 

Regards,

Hank Arnold

Microsoft MVP

Windows Server - Directory Services

[Guest Miles Li [MSFT]]

Re: Aero - cannot get it run

 

Hello Thorsten,

 

Yes, as Jolt mentioned, this feature is no longer available in the Windows

Server 2008 RTM. I have performed a test on the Windows Server 2008

Enterprise RTM and can't enable the Aero over the terminal service.

 

If you have any concerns on this issue, please do not hesitate to let us

know.

 

 

Best regards,

Miles Li

 

Microsoft Online Partner Support

Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

 

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[Guest jolteroli]

Re: Aero - cannot get it run

 

Since no rasterization takes place on the TS, how rendering the

Aero-Desktop/Themes could drain resources on the server?

 

-jolt

 

.. The GDI calls gets transmitted to the client and therer, depending on the

available GDI backend, the client will use rasterize the calls with more or

less hardware support. Why rendering the Aero desktop should stress the

server?

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

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> Thorsten Butz wrote:

>> Has anyone ever tried to get Aero run from a TS-client? I do not speak

>> about "theory" - I mean: did you see it yourself?

>>

>> From my point of view it should be possible to view

>> Aero-style-seamless-windows (or remoteapps) if you fullfill the

>> following requirements:

>>

>> - Desktop Experience + Themes-service + Vista-Style at the Terminal

>> Server

>>

>> - Allow 32-bit color depth in the TS-Settings at the server

>>

>> - Have aero enabled at the client and choose "Desktop composition" and

>> "Font smooting".

>>

>> I tried it several times and never succeeded. I have an aero-capaple

>> (and of course enabled) WS 2008-Client, I see Vista-style-windows but no

>> transparency.

>>

>> Did you get it run?

>> Thorsten

>

> I'd be very reluctant to run *anything* on a TS server like that. I'd lump

> it int he same box as screen savers, wallpaper, etc.. Resource drains with

> not much benefit...

>

> --

>

> Regards,

> Hank Arnold

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Server - Directory Services