msconfig vs. Autoruns

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked about

unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them

from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a

point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm

guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't run

automatically at Startup--right?

 

Thank you!

 

Jo-Anne

[Guest Malke]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Jo-Anne wrote:

> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

> about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep

> them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is

> there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases,

> I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just

> don't run automatically at Startup--right?

 

Both msconfig and Autoruns merely show you what is running. It is always

better to stop programs from starting with Windows from within the programs

themselves, so look in their Options before changing anything with msconfig

or Autoruns. It doesn't matter whether you change anything in Autoruns or

msconfig; they are both pointing to the same registry items.

 

Again, in case I forgot to warn you:

 

Important - Do not use the System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop

processes. Instead, use Start>Run>services.msc [enter] and do not stop any

services unless you really, really know what you're doing.

 

Malke

--

MS-MVP

Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

[Guest JS]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Jo-Anne,

 

I believe you are using True Image correct.

If so make a new image backup and then you can always get back from whatever

in case you accidently uncheck (stop) the wrong item using msconfig or

Autoruns. This assumes you have created the 'Recovery CD' for True Image.

 

That said, Autoruns does provide the ability to 'Search Online' to better

identify each process.

Also don't forget (the 'Boot Execute' tab) and (the 'Logon' tab) in

AutoRuns.

Also unchecking an item in AutoRuns does not delete it, like msconfig it

just stops it the next time you boot.

 

JS

http://www.pagestart.com

 

 

"Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

news:uRIHUBzIJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

> about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep

> them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is

> there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases,

> I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just

> don't run automatically at Startup--right?

>

> Thank you!

>

> Jo-Anne

>

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Thank you for the reminder, Malke! I had forgotten. I'll print your

instruction now and use it when I stop anything--and I'll query here

beforehand to make sure I'm not stopping something important.

 

Jo-Anne

 

"Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

news:uBD0cFzIJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Jo-Anne wrote:

>

>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

>> about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep

>> them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is

>> there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases,

>> I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just

>> don't run automatically at Startup--right?

>

> Both msconfig and Autoruns merely show you what is running. It is always

> better to stop programs from starting with Windows from within the

> programs

> themselves, so look in their Options before changing anything with

> msconfig

> or Autoruns. It doesn't matter whether you change anything in Autoruns or

> msconfig; they are both pointing to the same registry items.

>

> Again, in case I forgot to warn you:

>

> Important - Do not use the System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop

> processes. Instead, use Start>Run>services.msc [enter] and do not stop any

> services unless you really, really know what you're doing.

>

> Malke

> --

> MS-MVP

> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

>

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Thank you, JS! Yes, I'm using True Image and I created (and tested) a

recovery CD--and my plan was not only to back everything up first but also

to create a System Restore Point. I've gotten into the habit of doing that

before intalling programs and before making major changes.

 

Jo-Anne

 

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23b0SUPzIJHA.4324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Jo-Anne,

>

> I believe you are using True Image correct.

> If so make a new image backup and then you can always get back from

> whatever in case you accidently uncheck (stop) the wrong item using

> msconfig or Autoruns. This assumes you have created the 'Recovery CD' for

> True Image.

>

> That said, Autoruns does provide the ability to 'Search Online' to better

> identify each process.

> Also don't forget (the 'Boot Execute' tab) and (the 'Logon' tab) in

> AutoRuns.

> Also unchecking an item in AutoRuns does not delete it, like msconfig it

> just stops it the next time you boot.

>

> JS

> http://www.pagestart.com

>

>

> "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

> news:uRIHUBzIJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

>> about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep

>> them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is

>> there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases,

>> I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just

>> don't run automatically at Startup--right?

>>

>> Thank you!

>>

>> Jo-Anne

>>

>

>

[Guest JS]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Very good habit!

 

JS

 

"Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

news:eOmpaozIJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Thank you, JS! Yes, I'm using True Image and I created (and tested) a

> recovery CD--and my plan was not only to back everything up first but also

> to create a System Restore Point. I've gotten into the habit of doing that

> before intalling programs and before making major changes.

>

> Jo-Anne

>

> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23b0SUPzIJHA.4324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Jo-Anne,

>>

>> I believe you are using True Image correct.

>> If so make a new image backup and then you can always get back from

>> whatever in case you accidently uncheck (stop) the wrong item using

>> msconfig or Autoruns. This assumes you have created the 'Recovery CD' for

>> True Image.

>>

>> That said, Autoruns does provide the ability to 'Search Online' to better

>> identify each process.

>> Also don't forget (the 'Boot Execute' tab) and (the 'Logon' tab) in

>> AutoRuns.

>> Also unchecking an item in AutoRuns does not delete it, like msconfig it

>> just stops it the next time you boot.

>>

>> JS

>> http://www.pagestart.com

>>

>>

>> "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

>> news:uRIHUBzIJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too

>>> many programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that

>>> issue, I was told that I could stop some programs from running when the

>>> computer starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some

>>> talked about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do

>>> is keep them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in

>>> msconfig? Is there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns?

>>> In both cases, I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the

>>> computer; they just don't run automatically at Startup--right?

>>>

>>> Thank you!

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Terry R.]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

The date and time was 9/30/2008 12:11 PM, and on a whim, Jo-Anne pounded

out on the keyboard:

> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked about

> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them

> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a

> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm

> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't run

> automatically at Startup--right?

>

> Thank you!

>

> Jo-Anne

>

>

 

Hi again Jo-Anne,

 

Personally, I feel Autoruns is much better than msconfig.

 

One, you don't get a nagging dialog box next time you restart like you

do with msconfig (unless of course you remove the entry from Run in the

registry which you can do afterward using Autoruns ;-) ).

 

Two, you can delete entries if desired.

 

Three, you can search entries online by right clicking the entry or

using Ctrl-M.

 

Four, it shows everything and can be broken out using the tabs if desired.

 

But ultimately, each user has their preferences and if you like using

msconfig better, that is your choice!

 

--

Terry R.

 

***Reply Note***

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Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!)

 

Jo-Anne wrote:

> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

> about

> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them

> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a

> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm

> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't

> run

> automatically at Startup--right?

>

> Thank you!

>

> Jo-Anne

[Guest Kayman]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:11:27 -0500, Jo-Anne wrote:

> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked about

> unchecking them in msconfig.

 

WRONG! Nobody suggested to DELETE programs!

Unchecking a program (under the Login tab) in AutoRuns is merely DISABELING

a particular application! This action can easily be reversed!

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you.

 

NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet to

get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should hold

off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I

checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec

programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical

Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three?

 

Jo-Anne

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!)

>

> Jo-Anne wrote:

>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

>> about

>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them

>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a

>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm

>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't

>> run

>> automatically at Startup--right?

>>

>> Thank you!

>>

>> Jo-Anne

>

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

"Terry R." <F1Com@NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message

news:uyy0YZ0IJHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> The date and time was 9/30/2008 12:11 PM, and on a whim, Jo-Anne pounded

> out on the keyboard:

>

>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

>> about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep

>> them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is

>> there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases,

>> I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just

>> don't run automatically at Startup--right?

>>

>> Thank you!

>>

>> Jo-Anne

>

> Hi again Jo-Anne,

>

> Personally, I feel Autoruns is much better than msconfig.

>

> One, you don't get a nagging dialog box next time you restart like you do

> with msconfig (unless of course you remove the entry from Run in the

> registry which you can do afterward using Autoruns ;-) ).

>

> Two, you can delete entries if desired.

>

> Three, you can search entries online by right clicking the entry or using

> Ctrl-M.

>

> Four, it shows everything and can be broken out using the tabs if desired.

>

> But ultimately, each user has their preferences and if you like using

> msconfig better, that is your choice!

>

> --

> Terry R.

>

> ***Reply Note***

> Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.

> Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.

 

Thank you, Terry! Malke says I should do any disabling through either the

programs themselves or services.msc. I checked the two programs everyone

says should definitely be disabled from Startup--Adobe Reader and Dell

QuickSet--and neither one seems to offer a way of disabling it there. So I

guess I'll go the other route.

 

Jo-Anne

[Guest Malke]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Jo-Anne wrote:

> Thank you, Terry! Malke says I should do any disabling through either the

> programs themselves or services.msc. I checked the two programs everyone

> says should definitely be disabled from Startup--Adobe Reader and Dell

> QuickSet--and neither one seems to offer a way of disabling it there. So I

> guess I'll go the other route.

 

Actually, that's not exactly what Malke said. Malke said that:

 

1. Yes, you should look first to the programs' preferences to see if you can

stop them running at startup from there. Sometimes the preferences are

found in the program's Control Panel applet (if there is one) like setting

Java and Quicktime updating.

 

2. If there are no preferences - Adobe Reader is a good example - then use a

tool like msconfig or Autoruns or manually work directly in the registry

(not recommended for novices) to stop them from starting up with Windows.

 

3. Do not use msconfig to stop services because it will allow you to stop

services that are essential to your operating system. Do not stop services

willy-nilly. Only stop services if you know exactly what you're doing and

if there is a pressing need for it.

 

I understand that you are anxious to learn and to do everything correctly,

but in a way you're making things far more complicated than they need to

be.

 

I don't know you or your situation, but based on your many posts I think

having a computer professional come on-site and work with you might be a

good idea. Of course, you have to find the right person - someone who

doesn't mind training and explaining. This won't be a GeekSquad type of

place.

 

Malke

--

MS-MVP

Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

In reply to your entirely OT question: Yes.

 

Jo-Anne wrote:

> I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you.

>

> NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet to

> get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should hold

> off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I

> checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec

> programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical

> Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three?

>

> Jo-Anne

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!)

>>

>> Jo-Anne wrote:

>>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too

>>> many

>>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue,

>>> I

>>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

>>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

>>> about

>>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them

>>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a

>>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm

>>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't

>>> run

>>> automatically at Startup--right?

>>>

>>> Thank you!

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne

[Guest JS]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

You might want to consider using the Norton Removal Tool

"The Norton Removal Tool uninstalls all Norton

2009/2008/2007/2006/2005/2004/2003 products

and Norton 360 from your computer.

If you use ACT! or WinFAX, back up those databases

before you proceed."

 

In addition be aware when it says "all" it does means all

Norton/Symantec products will be removed from your PC.

 

If NIS is the only Symantec product on your PC then the

removal tool makes it easy and removes most registry entries

that are left behind when using the Add/Remove programs option

in the Control Panel.

 

Download and run the Norton Removal Tool:

http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

 

JS

http://www.pagestart.com

 

 

"Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

news:ujVkgK5IJHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you.

>

> NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet to

> get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should hold

> off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I

> checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec

> programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical

> Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three?

>

> Jo-Anne

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!)

>>

>> Jo-Anne wrote:

>>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too

>>> many

>>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue,

>>> I

>>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

>>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

>>> about

>>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them

>>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a

>>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm

>>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't

>>> run

>>> automatically at Startup--right?

>>>

>>> Thank you!

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne

>>

>

>

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Thank you, JS! Far as I know, NIS is the only Norton product I have on the

computer, so doing a complete removal should be OK.

 

Jo-Anne

 

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:efQYt59IJHA.1060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> You might want to consider using the Norton Removal Tool

> "The Norton Removal Tool uninstalls all Norton

> 2009/2008/2007/2006/2005/2004/2003 products

> and Norton 360 from your computer.

> If you use ACT! or WinFAX, back up those databases

> before you proceed."

>

> In addition be aware when it says "all" it does means all

> Norton/Symantec products will be removed from your PC.

>

> If NIS is the only Symantec product on your PC then the

> removal tool makes it easy and removes most registry entries

> that are left behind when using the Add/Remove programs option

> in the Control Panel.

>

> Download and run the Norton Removal Tool:

> http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

>

> JS

> http://www.pagestart.com

>

>

> "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

> news:ujVkgK5IJHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you.

>>

>> NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet to

>> get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should hold

>> off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I

>> checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec

>> programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical

>> Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three?

>>

>> Jo-Anne

>>

>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!)

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne wrote:

>>>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>>>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too

>>>> many

>>>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue,

>>>> I

>>>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

>>>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

>>>> about

>>>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep

>>>> them

>>>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there

>>>> a

>>>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm

>>>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't

>>>> run

>>>> automatically at Startup--right?

>>>>

>>>> Thank you!

>>>>

>>>> Jo-Anne

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

"Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

news:OGDNcB8IJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Jo-Anne wrote:

>

>> Thank you, Terry! Malke says I should do any disabling through either the

>> programs themselves or services.msc. I checked the two programs everyone

>> says should definitely be disabled from Startup--Adobe Reader and Dell

>> QuickSet--and neither one seems to offer a way of disabling it there. So

>> I

>> guess I'll go the other route.

>

> Actually, that's not exactly what Malke said. Malke said that:

>

> 1. Yes, you should look first to the programs' preferences to see if you

> can

> stop them running at startup from there. Sometimes the preferences are

> found in the program's Control Panel applet (if there is one) like setting

> Java and Quicktime updating.

>

> 2. If there are no preferences - Adobe Reader is a good example - then use

> a

> tool like msconfig or Autoruns or manually work directly in the registry

> (not recommended for novices) to stop them from starting up with Windows.

>

> 3. Do not use msconfig to stop services because it will allow you to stop

> services that are essential to your operating system. Do not stop services

> willy-nilly. Only stop services if you know exactly what you're doing and

> if there is a pressing need for it.

>

> I understand that you are anxious to learn and to do everything correctly,

> but in a way you're making things far more complicated than they need to

> be.

>

> I don't know you or your situation, but based on your many posts I think

> having a computer professional come on-site and work with you might be a

> good idea. Of course, you have to find the right person - someone who

> doesn't mind training and explaining. This won't be a GeekSquad type of

> place.

>

> Malke

> --

> MS-MVP

> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

 

I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use the

System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use

Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to uncheck

Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either msconfig or

autoruns?

 

I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I live in

a small town and the only help that's available (other than the Geek Squad,

which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also does computer

repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately, the company has

expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many of the new tech

support people know not a whole lot more than I do. They've screwed up

several times with a friend's computer.

 

Thank you, as always,

 

Jo-Anne

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Thank you, Robear--but you brought up NIS...

 

Jo-Anne

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:eepALr9IJHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> In reply to your entirely OT question: Yes.

>

> Jo-Anne wrote:

>> I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you.

>>

>> NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet to

>> get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should hold

>> off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I

>> checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec

>> programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical

>> Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three?

>>

>> Jo-Anne

>>

>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!)

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne wrote:

>>>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>>>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too

>>>> many

>>>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue,

>>>> I

>>>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

>>>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

>>>> about

>>>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep

>>>> them

>>>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there

>>>> a

>>>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm

>>>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't

>>>> run

>>>> automatically at Startup--right?

>>>>

>>>> Thank you!

>>>>

>>>> Jo-Anne

>

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Thank you, Kayman! I think someone else used the word "delete" in an earlier

response, but I do understood that the idea is simply to disable by

unchecking...

 

Jo-Anne

 

"Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message

news:uzV2Tx1IJHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:11:27 -0500, Jo-Anne wrote:

>

>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many

>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I

>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer

>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

>> about

>> unchecking them in msconfig.

>

> WRONG! Nobody suggested to DELETE programs!

> Unchecking a program (under the Login tab) in AutoRuns is merely

> DISABELING

> a particular application! This action can easily be reversed!

>

>

>

[Guest Malke]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Jo-Anne wrote:

> I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use the

> System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use

> Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to

> uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either msconfig

> or autoruns?

 

Yes. BTW, to disable Quickset from running, right-click on its icon in the

taskbar and choose "Exit". You should get a dialog box that allows you to

not have Quickset run at startup. If you don't get the box, use whichever

tool you like.

> I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I live

> in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the Geek

> Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also does

> computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately, the

> company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many of

> the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do. They've

> screwed up several times with a friend's computer.

 

Ah, that's too bad. And you're right to stay away from those "experts". I

hope you didn't take my suggestion as chasing you away; I certainly didn't

mean it that way. It's just that having one-on-one personal training is

better than newsgroups but if you can't have it, you can't have it. :-)

 

Malke

--

MS-MVP

Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

 

"Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

news:ufBUE%23%23IJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Jo-Anne wrote:

>

>> I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use the

>> System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use

>> Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to

>> uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either msconfig

>> or autoruns?

>

> Yes. BTW, to disable Quickset from running, right-click on its icon in the

> taskbar and choose "Exit". You should get a dialog box that allows you to

> not have Quickset run at startup. If you don't get the box, use whichever

> tool you like.

>> I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I live

>> in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the Geek

>> Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also

>> does

>> computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately, the

>> company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many of

>> the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do. They've

>> screwed up several times with a friend's computer.

>

> Ah, that's too bad. And you're right to stay away from those "experts". I

> hope you didn't take my suggestion as chasing you away; I certainly didn't

> mean it that way. It's just that having one-on-one personal training is

> better than newsgroups but if you can't have it, you can't have it. :-)

>

> Malke

> --

> MS-MVP

> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

>

 

Thank you again, Malke! That worked for Quickset. I should have tried it

yesterday; I didn't because in the past when I clicked Exit on Dell taskbar

items, they disappeared only for that session and came back the next time I

started the computer. This time there was indeed the dialog box. When I

restarted, there was only a slight stutter, so I went ahead and disabled

Adobe Reader Speed Launch and restarted. No more stutter.

 

Don't worry about my being chased away from the newsgroups. I've learned

infinitely more here in the last couple months than I've learned in the 22

years I've been using computers (my first one was a Kaypro with a 30

megabyte hard drive). I'm getting better too at going to "manuals" and

Google for information before asking here.

 

Thank you,

 

Jo-Anne

[Guest JS]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

A Kaypro with CPM Operating System by any chance?

 

JS

 

"Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

news:usLzJi$IJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>

> "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

> news:ufBUE%23%23IJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Jo-Anne wrote:

>>

>>> I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use the

>>> System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use

>>> Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to

>>> uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either msconfig

>>> or autoruns?

>>

>> Yes. BTW, to disable Quickset from running, right-click on its icon in

>> the

>> taskbar and choose "Exit". You should get a dialog box that allows you to

>> not have Quickset run at startup. If you don't get the box, use whichever

>> tool you like.

>

>>> I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I

>>> live

>>> in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the Geek

>>> Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also

>>> does

>>> computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately,

>>> the

>>> company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many of

>>> the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do. They've

>>> screwed up several times with a friend's computer.

>>

>> Ah, that's too bad. And you're right to stay away from those "experts". I

>> hope you didn't take my suggestion as chasing you away; I certainly

>> didn't

>> mean it that way. It's just that having one-on-one personal training is

>> better than newsgroups but if you can't have it, you can't have it. :-)

>>

>> Malke

>> --

>> MS-MVP

>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

>> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

>>

>

> Thank you again, Malke! That worked for Quickset. I should have tried it

> yesterday; I didn't because in the past when I clicked Exit on Dell

> taskbar items, they disappeared only for that session and came back the

> next time I started the computer. This time there was indeed the dialog

> box. When I restarted, there was only a slight stutter, so I went ahead

> and disabled Adobe Reader Speed Launch and restarted. No more stutter.

>

> Don't worry about my being chased away from the newsgroups. I've learned

> infinitely more here in the last couple months than I've learned in the 22

> years I've been using computers (my first one was a Kaypro with a 30

> megabyte hard drive). I'm getting better too at going to "manuals" and

> Google for information before asking here.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Jo-Anne

>

>

>

[Guest Jo-Anne]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

No, it was a DOS computer--the Kaypro 286I--and cost a bundle (I still have

the receipt): over $4,200, not including the printer.

 

Jo-Anne

 

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23ucx7v$IJHA.5872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>A Kaypro with CPM Operating System by any chance?

>

> JS

>

> "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

> news:usLzJi$IJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:ufBUE%23%23IJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Jo-Anne wrote:

>>>

>>>> I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use the

>>>> System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use

>>>> Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to

>>>> uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either

>>>> msconfig

>>>> or autoruns?

>>>

>>> Yes. BTW, to disable Quickset from running, right-click on its icon in

>>> the

>>> taskbar and choose "Exit". You should get a dialog box that allows you

>>> to

>>> not have Quickset run at startup. If you don't get the box, use

>>> whichever

>>> tool you like.

>>

>>>> I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I

>>>> live

>>>> in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the Geek

>>>> Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also

>>>> does

>>>> computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately,

>>>> the

>>>> company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many

>>>> of

>>>> the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do.

>>>> They've

>>>> screwed up several times with a friend's computer.

>>>

>>> Ah, that's too bad. And you're right to stay away from those "experts".

>>> I

>>> hope you didn't take my suggestion as chasing you away; I certainly

>>> didn't

>>> mean it that way. It's just that having one-on-one personal training is

>>> better than newsgroups but if you can't have it, you can't have it. :-)

>>>

>>> Malke

>>> --

>>> MS-MVP

>>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

>>> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

>>>

>>

>> Thank you again, Malke! That worked for Quickset. I should have tried it

>> yesterday; I didn't because in the past when I clicked Exit on Dell

>> taskbar items, they disappeared only for that session and came back the

>> next time I started the computer. This time there was indeed the dialog

>> box. When I restarted, there was only a slight stutter, so I went ahead

>> and disabled Adobe Reader Speed Launch and restarted. No more stutter.

>>

>> Don't worry about my being chased away from the newsgroups. I've learned

>> infinitely more here in the last couple months than I've learned in the

>> 22 years I've been using computers (my first one was a Kaypro with a 30

>> megabyte hard drive). I'm getting better too at going to "manuals" and

>> Google for information before asking here.

>>

>> Thank you,

>>

>> Jo-Anne

>>

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Malke]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Jo-Anne wrote:

 

Thank you again, Malke! That worked for Quickset. I should have tried it

> yesterday; I didn't because in the past when I clicked Exit on Dell

> taskbar items, they disappeared only for that session and came back the

> next time I started the computer. This time there was indeed the dialog

> box. When I restarted, there was only a slight stutter, so I went ahead

> and disabled Adobe Reader Speed Launch and restarted. No more stutter.

>

> Don't worry about my being chased away from the newsgroups. I've learned

> infinitely more here in the last couple months than I've learned in the 22

> years I've been using computers (my first one was a Kaypro with a 30

> megabyte hard drive). I'm getting better too at going to "manuals" and

> Google for information before asking here.

 

Super, super! So you learned a bunch of stuff *and* fixed the original

problem! Excellent.

 

See you around,

 

Malke

--

MS-MVP

Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

[Guest JS]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

Yep, we bought about ten Kaypro computers with CPM and a couple more with

DOS for use with automated software/hardware test systems years ago.

 

JS

 

"Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

news:O545JEAJJHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> No, it was a DOS computer--the Kaypro 286I--and cost a bundle (I still

> have the receipt): over $4,200, not including the printer.

>

> Jo-Anne

>

> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23ucx7v$IJHA.5872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>A Kaypro with CPM Operating System by any chance?

>>

>> JS

>>

>> "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message

>> news:usLzJi$IJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

>>> news:ufBUE%23%23IJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Jo-Anne wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use

>>>>> the

>>>>> System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead,

>>>>> use

>>>>> Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to

>>>>> uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either

>>>>> msconfig

>>>>> or autoruns?

>>>>

>>>> Yes. BTW, to disable Quickset from running, right-click on its icon in

>>>> the

>>>> taskbar and choose "Exit". You should get a dialog box that allows you

>>>> to

>>>> not have Quickset run at startup. If you don't get the box, use

>>>> whichever

>>>> tool you like.

>>>

>>>>> I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I

>>>>> live

>>>>> in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the

>>>>> Geek

>>>>> Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also

>>>>> does

>>>>> computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately,

>>>>> the

>>>>> company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many

>>>>> of

>>>>> the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do.

>>>>> They've

>>>>> screwed up several times with a friend's computer.

>>>>

>>>> Ah, that's too bad. And you're right to stay away from those "experts".

>>>> I

>>>> hope you didn't take my suggestion as chasing you away; I certainly

>>>> didn't

>>>> mean it that way. It's just that having one-on-one personal training is

>>>> better than newsgroups but if you can't have it, you can't have it. :-)

>>>>

>>>> Malke

>>>> --

>>>> MS-MVP

>>>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

>>>> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

>>>>

>>>

>>> Thank you again, Malke! That worked for Quickset. I should have tried it

>>> yesterday; I didn't because in the past when I clicked Exit on Dell

>>> taskbar items, they disappeared only for that session and came back the

>>> next time I started the computer. This time there was indeed the dialog

>>> box. When I restarted, there was only a slight stutter, so I went ahead

>>> and disabled Adobe Reader Speed Launch and restarted. No more stutter.

>>>

>>> Don't worry about my being chased away from the newsgroups. I've learned

>>> infinitely more here in the last couple months than I've learned in the

>>> 22 years I've been using computers (my first one was a Kaypro with a 30

>>> megabyte hard drive). I'm getting better too at going to "manuals" and

>>> Google for information before asking here.

>>>

>>> Thank you,

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns

 

You didn't specify which machine you were posting about! <eg>

 

Jo-Anne wrote:

> Thank you, Robear--but you brought up NIS...

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:eepALr9IJHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> In reply to your entirely OT question: Yes.

>>

>> Jo-Anne wrote:

>>> I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you.

>>>

>>> NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet

>>> to

>>> get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should

>>> hold

>>> off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I

>>> checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec

>>> programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical

>>> Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three?

>>>

>>> Jo-Anne

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!)

>>>>

>>>> Jo-Anne wrote:

>>>>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows

>>>>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too

>>>>> many

>>>>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that

>>>>> issue,

>>>>> I

>>>>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the

>>>>> computer

>>>>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked

>>>>> about

>>>>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep

>>>>> them

>>>>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there

>>>>> a

>>>>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm

>>>>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just

>>>>> don't

>>>>> run

>>>>> automatically at Startup--right?

>>>>>

>>>>> Thank you!

>>>>>

>>>>> Jo-Anne