Guest Jo-Anne Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't run automatically at Startup--right? Thank you! Jo-Anne
Guest Malke Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Jo-Anne wrote: > Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows > opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many > programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I > was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer > starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked > about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep > them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is > there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, > I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just > don't run automatically at Startup--right? Both msconfig and Autoruns merely show you what is running. It is always better to stop programs from starting with Windows from within the programs themselves, so look in their Options before changing anything with msconfig or Autoruns. It doesn't matter whether you change anything in Autoruns or msconfig; they are both pointing to the same registry items. Again, in case I forgot to warn you: Important - Do not use the System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use Start>Run>services.msc [enter] and do not stop any services unless you really, really know what you're doing. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Guest JS Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Jo-Anne, I believe you are using True Image correct. If so make a new image backup and then you can always get back from whatever in case you accidently uncheck (stop) the wrong item using msconfig or Autoruns. This assumes you have created the 'Recovery CD' for True Image. That said, Autoruns does provide the ability to 'Search Online' to better identify each process. Also don't forget (the 'Boot Execute' tab) and (the 'Logon' tab) in AutoRuns. Also unchecking an item in AutoRuns does not delete it, like msconfig it just stops it the next time you boot. JS http://www.pagestart.com "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message news:uRIHUBzIJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows > opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many > programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I > was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer > starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked > about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep > them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is > there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, > I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just > don't run automatically at Startup--right? > > Thank you! > > Jo-Anne >
Guest Jo-Anne Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Thank you for the reminder, Malke! I had forgotten. I'll print your instruction now and use it when I stop anything--and I'll query here beforehand to make sure I'm not stopping something important. Jo-Anne "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:uBD0cFzIJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Jo-Anne wrote: > >> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many >> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I >> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer >> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked >> about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep >> them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is >> there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, >> I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just >> don't run automatically at Startup--right? > > Both msconfig and Autoruns merely show you what is running. It is always > better to stop programs from starting with Windows from within the > programs > themselves, so look in their Options before changing anything with > msconfig > or Autoruns. It doesn't matter whether you change anything in Autoruns or > msconfig; they are both pointing to the same registry items. > > Again, in case I forgot to warn you: > > Important - Do not use the System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop > processes. Instead, use Start>Run>services.msc [enter] and do not stop any > services unless you really, really know what you're doing. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! > FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ >
Guest Jo-Anne Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Thank you, JS! Yes, I'm using True Image and I created (and tested) a recovery CD--and my plan was not only to back everything up first but also to create a System Restore Point. I've gotten into the habit of doing that before intalling programs and before making major changes. Jo-Anne "JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23b0SUPzIJHA.4324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Jo-Anne, > > I believe you are using True Image correct. > If so make a new image backup and then you can always get back from > whatever in case you accidently uncheck (stop) the wrong item using > msconfig or Autoruns. This assumes you have created the 'Recovery CD' for > True Image. > > That said, Autoruns does provide the ability to 'Search Online' to better > identify each process. > Also don't forget (the 'Boot Execute' tab) and (the 'Logon' tab) in > AutoRuns. > Also unchecking an item in AutoRuns does not delete it, like msconfig it > just stops it the next time you boot. > > JS > http://www.pagestart.com > > > "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message > news:uRIHUBzIJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many >> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I >> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer >> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked >> about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep >> them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is >> there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, >> I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just >> don't run automatically at Startup--right? >> >> Thank you! >> >> Jo-Anne >> > >
Guest JS Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Very good habit! JS "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message news:eOmpaozIJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Thank you, JS! Yes, I'm using True Image and I created (and tested) a > recovery CD--and my plan was not only to back everything up first but also > to create a System Restore Point. I've gotten into the habit of doing that > before intalling programs and before making major changes. > > Jo-Anne > > "JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23b0SUPzIJHA.4324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Jo-Anne, >> >> I believe you are using True Image correct. >> If so make a new image backup and then you can always get back from >> whatever in case you accidently uncheck (stop) the wrong item using >> msconfig or Autoruns. This assumes you have created the 'Recovery CD' for >> True Image. >> >> That said, Autoruns does provide the ability to 'Search Online' to better >> identify each process. >> Also don't forget (the 'Boot Execute' tab) and (the 'Logon' tab) in >> AutoRuns. >> Also unchecking an item in AutoRuns does not delete it, like msconfig it >> just stops it the next time you boot. >> >> JS >> http://www.pagestart.com >> >> >> "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message >> news:uRIHUBzIJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too >>> many programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that >>> issue, I was told that I could stop some programs from running when the >>> computer starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some >>> talked about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do >>> is keep them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in >>> msconfig? Is there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? >>> In both cases, I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the >>> computer; they just don't run automatically at Startup--right? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Jo-Anne >>> >> >> > >
Guest Terry R. Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns The date and time was 9/30/2008 12:11 PM, and on a whim, Jo-Anne pounded out on the keyboard: > Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows > opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many > programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I > was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer > starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked about > unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them > from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a > point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm > guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't run > automatically at Startup--right? > > Thank you! > > Jo-Anne > > Hi again Jo-Anne, Personally, I feel Autoruns is much better than msconfig. One, you don't get a nagging dialog box next time you restart like you do with msconfig (unless of course you remove the entry from Run in the registry which you can do afterward using Autoruns ;-) ). Two, you can delete entries if desired. Three, you can search entries online by right clicking the entry or using Ctrl-M. Four, it shows everything and can be broken out using the tabs if desired. But ultimately, each user has their preferences and if you like using msconfig better, that is your choice! -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!) Jo-Anne wrote: > Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows > opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many > programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I > was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer > starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked > about > unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them > from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a > point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm > guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't > run > automatically at Startup--right? > > Thank you! > > Jo-Anne
Guest Kayman Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:11:27 -0500, Jo-Anne wrote: > Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows > opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many > programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I > was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer > starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked about > unchecking them in msconfig. WRONG! Nobody suggested to DELETE programs! Unchecking a program (under the Login tab) in AutoRuns is merely DISABELING a particular application! This action can easily be reversed!
Guest Jo-Anne Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you. NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet to get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should hold off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three? Jo-Anne "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!) > > Jo-Anne wrote: >> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many >> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I >> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer >> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked >> about >> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them >> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a >> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm >> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't >> run >> automatically at Startup--right? >> >> Thank you! >> >> Jo-Anne >
Guest Jo-Anne Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns "Terry R." <F1Com@NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote in message news:uyy0YZ0IJHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > The date and time was 9/30/2008 12:11 PM, and on a whim, Jo-Anne pounded > out on the keyboard: > >> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many >> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I >> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer >> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked >> about unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep >> them from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is >> there a point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, >> I'm guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just >> don't run automatically at Startup--right? >> >> Thank you! >> >> Jo-Anne > > Hi again Jo-Anne, > > Personally, I feel Autoruns is much better than msconfig. > > One, you don't get a nagging dialog box next time you restart like you do > with msconfig (unless of course you remove the entry from Run in the > registry which you can do afterward using Autoruns ;-) ). > > Two, you can delete entries if desired. > > Three, you can search entries online by right clicking the entry or using > Ctrl-M. > > Four, it shows everything and can be broken out using the tabs if desired. > > But ultimately, each user has their preferences and if you like using > msconfig better, that is your choice! > > -- > Terry R. > > ***Reply Note*** > Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. > Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. Thank you, Terry! Malke says I should do any disabling through either the programs themselves or services.msc. I checked the two programs everyone says should definitely be disabled from Startup--Adobe Reader and Dell QuickSet--and neither one seems to offer a way of disabling it there. So I guess I'll go the other route. Jo-Anne
Guest Malke Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Jo-Anne wrote: > Thank you, Terry! Malke says I should do any disabling through either the > programs themselves or services.msc. I checked the two programs everyone > says should definitely be disabled from Startup--Adobe Reader and Dell > QuickSet--and neither one seems to offer a way of disabling it there. So I > guess I'll go the other route. Actually, that's not exactly what Malke said. Malke said that: 1. Yes, you should look first to the programs' preferences to see if you can stop them running at startup from there. Sometimes the preferences are found in the program's Control Panel applet (if there is one) like setting Java and Quicktime updating. 2. If there are no preferences - Adobe Reader is a good example - then use a tool like msconfig or Autoruns or manually work directly in the registry (not recommended for novices) to stop them from starting up with Windows. 3. Do not use msconfig to stop services because it will allow you to stop services that are essential to your operating system. Do not stop services willy-nilly. Only stop services if you know exactly what you're doing and if there is a pressing need for it. I understand that you are anxious to learn and to do everything correctly, but in a way you're making things far more complicated than they need to be. I don't know you or your situation, but based on your many posts I think having a computer professional come on-site and work with you might be a good idea. Of course, you have to find the right person - someone who doesn't mind training and explaining. This won't be a GeekSquad type of place. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns In reply to your entirely OT question: Yes. Jo-Anne wrote: > I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you. > > NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet to > get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should hold > off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I > checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec > programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical > Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three? > > Jo-Anne > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!) >> >> Jo-Anne wrote: >>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too >>> many >>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, >>> I >>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer >>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked >>> about >>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them >>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a >>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm >>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't >>> run >>> automatically at Startup--right? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Jo-Anne
Guest JS Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns You might want to consider using the Norton Removal Tool "The Norton Removal Tool uninstalls all Norton 2009/2008/2007/2006/2005/2004/2003 products and Norton 360 from your computer. If you use ACT! or WinFAX, back up those databases before you proceed." In addition be aware when it says "all" it does means all Norton/Symantec products will be removed from your PC. If NIS is the only Symantec product on your PC then the removal tool makes it easy and removes most registry entries that are left behind when using the Add/Remove programs option in the Control Panel. Download and run the Norton Removal Tool: http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039 JS http://www.pagestart.com "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message news:ujVkgK5IJHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you. > > NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet to > get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should hold > off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I > checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec > programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical > Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three? > > Jo-Anne > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!) >> >> Jo-Anne wrote: >>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too >>> many >>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, >>> I >>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer >>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked >>> about >>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep them >>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there a >>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm >>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't >>> run >>> automatically at Startup--right? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Jo-Anne >> > >
Guest Jo-Anne Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Thank you, JS! Far as I know, NIS is the only Norton product I have on the computer, so doing a complete removal should be OK. Jo-Anne "JS" <@> wrote in message news:efQYt59IJHA.1060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > You might want to consider using the Norton Removal Tool > "The Norton Removal Tool uninstalls all Norton > 2009/2008/2007/2006/2005/2004/2003 products > and Norton 360 from your computer. > If you use ACT! or WinFAX, back up those databases > before you proceed." > > In addition be aware when it says "all" it does means all > Norton/Symantec products will be removed from your PC. > > If NIS is the only Symantec product on your PC then the > removal tool makes it easy and removes most registry entries > that are left behind when using the Add/Remove programs option > in the Control Panel. > > Download and run the Norton Removal Tool: > http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039 > > JS > http://www.pagestart.com > > > "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message > news:ujVkgK5IJHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you. >> >> NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet to >> get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should hold >> off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I >> checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec >> programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical >> Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three? >> >> Jo-Anne >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!) >>> >>> Jo-Anne wrote: >>>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >>>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too >>>> many >>>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, >>>> I >>>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer >>>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked >>>> about >>>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep >>>> them >>>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there >>>> a >>>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm >>>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't >>>> run >>>> automatically at Startup--right? >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Jo-Anne >>> >> >> > >
Guest Jo-Anne Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:OGDNcB8IJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Jo-Anne wrote: > >> Thank you, Terry! Malke says I should do any disabling through either the >> programs themselves or services.msc. I checked the two programs everyone >> says should definitely be disabled from Startup--Adobe Reader and Dell >> QuickSet--and neither one seems to offer a way of disabling it there. So >> I >> guess I'll go the other route. > > Actually, that's not exactly what Malke said. Malke said that: > > 1. Yes, you should look first to the programs' preferences to see if you > can > stop them running at startup from there. Sometimes the preferences are > found in the program's Control Panel applet (if there is one) like setting > Java and Quicktime updating. > > 2. If there are no preferences - Adobe Reader is a good example - then use > a > tool like msconfig or Autoruns or manually work directly in the registry > (not recommended for novices) to stop them from starting up with Windows. > > 3. Do not use msconfig to stop services because it will allow you to stop > services that are essential to your operating system. Do not stop services > willy-nilly. Only stop services if you know exactly what you're doing and > if there is a pressing need for it. > > I understand that you are anxious to learn and to do everything correctly, > but in a way you're making things far more complicated than they need to > be. > > I don't know you or your situation, but based on your many posts I think > having a computer professional come on-site and work with you might be a > good idea. Of course, you have to find the right person - someone who > doesn't mind training and explaining. This won't be a GeekSquad type of > place. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! > FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use the System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either msconfig or autoruns? I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I live in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the Geek Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also does computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately, the company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many of the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do. They've screwed up several times with a friend's computer. Thank you, as always, Jo-Anne
Guest Jo-Anne Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Thank you, Robear--but you brought up NIS... Jo-Anne "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eepALr9IJHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > In reply to your entirely OT question: Yes. > > Jo-Anne wrote: >> I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you. >> >> NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet to >> get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should hold >> off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I >> checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec >> programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical >> Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three? >> >> Jo-Anne >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!) >>> >>> Jo-Anne wrote: >>>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >>>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too >>>> many >>>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, >>>> I >>>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer >>>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked >>>> about >>>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep >>>> them >>>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there >>>> a >>>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm >>>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just don't >>>> run >>>> automatically at Startup--right? >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Jo-Anne >
Guest Jo-Anne Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Thank you, Kayman! I think someone else used the word "delete" in an earlier response, but I do understood that the idea is simply to disable by unchecking... Jo-Anne "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message news:uzV2Tx1IJHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:11:27 -0500, Jo-Anne wrote: > >> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too many >> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that issue, I >> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the computer >> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked >> about >> unchecking them in msconfig. > > WRONG! Nobody suggested to DELETE programs! > Unchecking a program (under the Login tab) in AutoRuns is merely > DISABELING > a particular application! This action can easily be reversed! > > >
Guest Malke Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Jo-Anne wrote: > I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use the > System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use > Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to > uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either msconfig > or autoruns? Yes. BTW, to disable Quickset from running, right-click on its icon in the taskbar and choose "Exit". You should get a dialog box that allows you to not have Quickset run at startup. If you don't get the box, use whichever tool you like. > I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I live > in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the Geek > Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also does > computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately, the > company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many of > the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do. They've > screwed up several times with a friend's computer. Ah, that's too bad. And you're right to stay away from those "experts". I hope you didn't take my suggestion as chasing you away; I certainly didn't mean it that way. It's just that having one-on-one personal training is better than newsgroups but if you can't have it, you can't have it. :-) Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Guest Jo-Anne Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:ufBUE%23%23IJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Jo-Anne wrote: > >> I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use the >> System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use >> Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to >> uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either msconfig >> or autoruns? > > Yes. BTW, to disable Quickset from running, right-click on its icon in the > taskbar and choose "Exit". You should get a dialog box that allows you to > not have Quickset run at startup. If you don't get the box, use whichever > tool you like. >> I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I live >> in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the Geek >> Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also >> does >> computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately, the >> company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many of >> the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do. They've >> screwed up several times with a friend's computer. > > Ah, that's too bad. And you're right to stay away from those "experts". I > hope you didn't take my suggestion as chasing you away; I certainly didn't > mean it that way. It's just that having one-on-one personal training is > better than newsgroups but if you can't have it, you can't have it. :-) > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! > FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ > Thank you again, Malke! That worked for Quickset. I should have tried it yesterday; I didn't because in the past when I clicked Exit on Dell taskbar items, they disappeared only for that session and came back the next time I started the computer. This time there was indeed the dialog box. When I restarted, there was only a slight stutter, so I went ahead and disabled Adobe Reader Speed Launch and restarted. No more stutter. Don't worry about my being chased away from the newsgroups. I've learned infinitely more here in the last couple months than I've learned in the 22 years I've been using computers (my first one was a Kaypro with a 30 megabyte hard drive). I'm getting better too at going to "manuals" and Google for information before asking here. Thank you, Jo-Anne
Guest JS Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns A Kaypro with CPM Operating System by any chance? JS "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message news:usLzJi$IJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:ufBUE%23%23IJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Jo-Anne wrote: >> >>> I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use the >>> System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use >>> Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to >>> uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either msconfig >>> or autoruns? >> >> Yes. BTW, to disable Quickset from running, right-click on its icon in >> the >> taskbar and choose "Exit". You should get a dialog box that allows you to >> not have Quickset run at startup. If you don't get the box, use whichever >> tool you like. > >>> I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I >>> live >>> in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the Geek >>> Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also >>> does >>> computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately, >>> the >>> company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many of >>> the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do. They've >>> screwed up several times with a friend's computer. >> >> Ah, that's too bad. And you're right to stay away from those "experts". I >> hope you didn't take my suggestion as chasing you away; I certainly >> didn't >> mean it that way. It's just that having one-on-one personal training is >> better than newsgroups but if you can't have it, you can't have it. :-) >> >> Malke >> -- >> MS-MVP >> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! >> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ >> > > Thank you again, Malke! That worked for Quickset. I should have tried it > yesterday; I didn't because in the past when I clicked Exit on Dell > taskbar items, they disappeared only for that session and came back the > next time I started the computer. This time there was indeed the dialog > box. When I restarted, there was only a slight stutter, so I went ahead > and disabled Adobe Reader Speed Launch and restarted. No more stutter. > > Don't worry about my being chased away from the newsgroups. I've learned > infinitely more here in the last couple months than I've learned in the 22 > years I've been using computers (my first one was a Kaypro with a 30 > megabyte hard drive). I'm getting better too at going to "manuals" and > Google for information before asking here. > > Thank you, > > Jo-Anne > > >
Guest Jo-Anne Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns No, it was a DOS computer--the Kaypro 286I--and cost a bundle (I still have the receipt): over $4,200, not including the printer. Jo-Anne "JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23ucx7v$IJHA.5872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >A Kaypro with CPM Operating System by any chance? > > JS > > "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message > news:usLzJi$IJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:ufBUE%23%23IJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Jo-Anne wrote: >>> >>>> I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use the >>>> System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, use >>>> Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to >>>> uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either >>>> msconfig >>>> or autoruns? >>> >>> Yes. BTW, to disable Quickset from running, right-click on its icon in >>> the >>> taskbar and choose "Exit". You should get a dialog box that allows you >>> to >>> not have Quickset run at startup. If you don't get the box, use >>> whichever >>> tool you like. >> >>>> I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I >>>> live >>>> in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the Geek >>>> Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also >>>> does >>>> computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately, >>>> the >>>> company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many >>>> of >>>> the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do. >>>> They've >>>> screwed up several times with a friend's computer. >>> >>> Ah, that's too bad. And you're right to stay away from those "experts". >>> I >>> hope you didn't take my suggestion as chasing you away; I certainly >>> didn't >>> mean it that way. It's just that having one-on-one personal training is >>> better than newsgroups but if you can't have it, you can't have it. :-) >>> >>> Malke >>> -- >>> MS-MVP >>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! >>> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ >>> >> >> Thank you again, Malke! That worked for Quickset. I should have tried it >> yesterday; I didn't because in the past when I clicked Exit on Dell >> taskbar items, they disappeared only for that session and came back the >> next time I started the computer. This time there was indeed the dialog >> box. When I restarted, there was only a slight stutter, so I went ahead >> and disabled Adobe Reader Speed Launch and restarted. No more stutter. >> >> Don't worry about my being chased away from the newsgroups. I've learned >> infinitely more here in the last couple months than I've learned in the >> 22 years I've been using computers (my first one was a Kaypro with a 30 >> megabyte hard drive). I'm getting better too at going to "manuals" and >> Google for information before asking here. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Jo-Anne >> >> >> > >
Guest Malke Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Jo-Anne wrote: Thank you again, Malke! That worked for Quickset. I should have tried it > yesterday; I didn't because in the past when I clicked Exit on Dell > taskbar items, they disappeared only for that session and came back the > next time I started the computer. This time there was indeed the dialog > box. When I restarted, there was only a slight stutter, so I went ahead > and disabled Adobe Reader Speed Launch and restarted. No more stutter. > > Don't worry about my being chased away from the newsgroups. I've learned > infinitely more here in the last couple months than I've learned in the 22 > years I've been using computers (my first one was a Kaypro with a 30 > megabyte hard drive). I'm getting better too at going to "manuals" and > Google for information before asking here. Super, super! So you learned a bunch of stuff *and* fixed the original problem! Excellent. See you around, Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Guest JS Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns Yep, we bought about ten Kaypro computers with CPM and a couple more with DOS for use with automated software/hardware test systems years ago. JS "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message news:O545JEAJJHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > No, it was a DOS computer--the Kaypro 286I--and cost a bundle (I still > have the receipt): over $4,200, not including the printer. > > Jo-Anne > > "JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23ucx7v$IJHA.5872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>A Kaypro with CPM Operating System by any chance? >> >> JS >> >> "Jo-Anne" <naples@tbcnet.com> wrote in message >> news:usLzJi$IJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:ufBUE%23%23IJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Jo-Anne wrote: >>>> >>>>> I must have misunderstood what you meant by "Important - Do not use >>>>> the >>>>> System Configuration Utility (msconfig) to stop processes. Instead, >>>>> use >>>>> Start>Run>services.msc [enter]..." So are you saying that it's OK to >>>>> uncheck Dell's Quickset and Adobe Reader Speed Launch in either >>>>> msconfig >>>>> or autoruns? >>>> >>>> Yes. BTW, to disable Quickset from running, right-click on its icon in >>>> the >>>> taskbar and choose "Exit". You should get a dialog box that allows you >>>> to >>>> not have Quickset run at startup. If you don't get the box, use >>>> whichever >>>> tool you like. >>> >>>>> I would happily have a computer professional come out to help, but I >>>>> live >>>>> in a small town and the only help that's available (other than the >>>>> Geek >>>>> Squad, which seems to be everywhere) is from my local ISP, which also >>>>> does >>>>> computer repairs, software installation, and the like. Unfortunately, >>>>> the >>>>> company has expanded substantially in the last couple years, and many >>>>> of >>>>> the new tech support people know not a whole lot more than I do. >>>>> They've >>>>> screwed up several times with a friend's computer. >>>> >>>> Ah, that's too bad. And you're right to stay away from those "experts". >>>> I >>>> hope you didn't take my suggestion as chasing you away; I certainly >>>> didn't >>>> mean it that way. It's just that having one-on-one personal training is >>>> better than newsgroups but if you can't have it, you can't have it. :-) >>>> >>>> Malke >>>> -- >>>> MS-MVP >>>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! >>>> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ >>>> >>> >>> Thank you again, Malke! That worked for Quickset. I should have tried it >>> yesterday; I didn't because in the past when I clicked Exit on Dell >>> taskbar items, they disappeared only for that session and came back the >>> next time I started the computer. This time there was indeed the dialog >>> box. When I restarted, there was only a slight stutter, so I went ahead >>> and disabled Adobe Reader Speed Launch and restarted. No more stutter. >>> >>> Don't worry about my being chased away from the newsgroups. I've learned >>> infinitely more here in the last couple months than I've learned in the >>> 22 years I've been using computers (my first one was a Kaypro with a 30 >>> megabyte hard drive). I'm getting better too at going to "manuals" and >>> Google for information before asking here. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Jo-Anne >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Re: msconfig vs. Autoruns You didn't specify which machine you were posting about! <eg> Jo-Anne wrote: > Thank you, Robear--but you brought up NIS... > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:eepALr9IJHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> In reply to your entirely OT question: Yes. >> >> Jo-Anne wrote: >>> I've printed it, Robear, and will go through it ASAP. Thank you. >>> >>> NIS isn't running on my new computer; I just haven't had the nerve yet >>> to >>> get it off the old one. Since I AM planning to do it, maybe I should >>> hold >>> off on installing Windows Defender on that computer until it's gone. I >>> checked Add/Remove Programs, and it looks like there are three Symantec >>> programs that can be removed: Live Update, NIS, and Symantec Technical >>> Support Web Controls. I assume I should remove all three? >>> >>> Jo-Anne >>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:OqN5GW1IJHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> See http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm (and get rid of NIS already!) >>>> >>>> Jo-Anne wrote: >>>>> Several people kindly informed me that the stuttering sound at Windows >>>>> opening on my WinXP SP3 notebook computer was probably caused by too >>>>> many >>>>> programs running at Startup. In the back-and-forthing about that >>>>> issue, >>>>> I >>>>> was told that I could stop some programs from running when the >>>>> computer >>>>> starts. Some said they could be deleted from Autoruns and some talked >>>>> about >>>>> unchecking them in msconfig. Questions: If all I want to do is keep >>>>> them >>>>> from running, am I best off just unchecking them in msconfig? Is there >>>>> a >>>>> point where they should be deleted from Autoruns? In both cases, I'm >>>>> guessing that the programs still exist on the computer; they just >>>>> don't >>>>> run >>>>> automatically at Startup--right? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you! >>>>> >>>>> Jo-Anne
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