Guest PCR Posted October 5, 2008 Posted October 5, 2008 Re: q823559 Re: q823559 PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: | PCR wrote: |> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: |>> NB: Please delete the crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup in |>> further replies to this thread. Thank you. |> |> Why? There's got to be a chance I actually will find the solution! |> And aren't you due for another hibernation? :-). | | Jim's machine is now fully patched. He has no more updates to | install. There's no solution to a problem that doesn't exist. I understood your point & might have eventually agreed. HOWEVER, it turned out his file versions were wrong in QFECheck for 823559, despite his Windows Update.log was reporting that update to be a success. Now, all seems to be well, though, that he uninstalled the update FIRST in Add/Remove before taking it one final time. He said...!... "Ok, I just went to Add\Remove and removed q823559 and then went to windowsupdate and reinstalled and worked as far as QFEcheck and FF check and windowsupdate Welcome scan [all worked] this time. I think what was wrong is that this was in the Add\Remove during the reinstall of ie6 and just stayed that way on the continuious attempt to reinstall the update." -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest PCR Posted October 5, 2008 Posted October 5, 2008 Re: q823559 Re: q823559 Jim wrote: | I think the problem with q823559 is solved. I will know for sure as | the week goes on and the Critical Update notification cycles. | Thank-you. You are welcome. Sounds like it is solved, if the proper versions are showing. Why not just "START button, Windows Update" to see for sure, or click...?... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:%23phuqnyJJHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... |> Jim wrote: |> | Ok, I just went to Add\Remove and removed q823559 and then went to |> | windowsupdate and reinstalled and worked as far as QFEcheck and FF |> | check and windowsupdate Welcome scan [all worked] this time. I |> | think what was wrong is that this was in the Add\Remove during the |> | reinstall of ie6 and just stayed that way on the continuious |> | attempt to reinstall the update. |> |> Are you saying Windows Update has ceased to offer it anymore & you do |> have the right file versions? Wow! I am pleased! Go to that other NG |> PA Bear has banned me from & tell them! |> |> | The only problem I am having now is that the streaming video is not |> | displaying at Google News and probably elsewhere. |> |> Best start a new thread for that. Post a specific site that has the |> problem for others to check. It could be something screwy on their |> end. |> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message |> | news:eREcaOyJJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... |> |> Jim wrote: |> |> | Yes, I think I see the problem there. The QFEcheck states |> |> | Invalid. It is seeing version difference. Should be, |> |> | 27-Jun-2003 02:19 2003.1100.5426 311,864 Html32.cnv |> |> | 27-Jun-2003 02:19 2003.1100.5426 116,288 Msconv97.dll |> |> | QFE seeing version |> |> | 2000.11.9.0 for both files. |> |> |> |> Interesting. How could everything look so good in your Windows |> |> Update log & in your registry-- & YET you have older files!?! But |> |> that sounds like it could be the problem all right. I'm still |> |> trying to think, but... |> |> |> |> (1) What folder are Html32.cnv & Msconv97.dll in? |> |> Normally, they'd be in... |> |> C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\TEXTCONV |> |> |> |> (2) Are they located anywhere else too; |> |> if so, what versions are they? |> |> |> |> (3) Do you have 823559UN.INF, & where is it? |> |> Should be in C:\WINDOWS\INF\QFE\W98.SE. |> |> Here is mine, just for comparitive purposes... |> |> |> |> ; 823559UN.INF |> |> ; This is the Setup information file to uninstall the Windows 98 |> |> Q823559 Update: |> |> |> |> [version] |> |> AdvancedINF = 2.5, %AdvPackWarn% |> |> signature=$CHICAGO$ |> |> |> |> [DefaultInstall] |> |> CustomDestination = app_chk |> |> DelFiles=WinUPD.delFiles,WinUPD.delINF,WinUpd.delOptions |> |> delreg=WinUPD.delreg |> |> RenFiles=WinUPD.renFiles |> |> DelDirs=WinUPD.deldir |> |> |> |> [DestinationDirs] |> |> WinUPD.delFiles = 49500,%sharedtools% |> |> WinUPD.renFiles = 49500,%sharedtools% |> |> WinUPD.delINF = 17,QFE\%SPKey% |> |> WinUpd.delOptions = 10,options\cabs |> |> |> |> ;check for install location |> |> [app_chk] |> |> 49500 = conv_loc_chk,5 |> |> |> |> [conv_loc_chk] |> |> HKLM,"%conv_loc%",CommonFilesDir,,"1" |> |> "","","","This update is not designed for your version of Windows. |> |> Press OK to exit.","" |> |> |> |> [WinUPD.delFiles] |> |> html32.cnv |> |> msconv97.dll |> |> |> |> [WinUPD.renFiles] |> |> html32.cnv,html32.qfe |> |> msconv97.dll,msconv97.qfe |> |> |> |> [WinUPD.delINF] |> |> 823559UN.INF |> |> |> |> [WinUpd.delOptions] |> |> html32.cnv |> |> msconv97.dll |> |> |> |> [WinUPD.deldir] |> |> %17%\QFE\%SPKey% |> |> |> |> [WinUPD.delreg] |> |> HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\%GUID%" |> |> HKLM,%UpdateKey%\%SPKey%\%LocaleID%%UpdID%\ |> |> HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\%UpdID%" |> |> |> |> [strings] |> |> ;Non-localizable |> |> LANG = "EN" |> |> LocaleID = "UPD" |> |> Guid= "{2806b4d1-cadf-4568-99df-1c8836a6b4bc}" |> |> version = "4.10.0.2222" |> |> UpdID = "Q823559" |> |> UpdateKey= |> |> "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\Updates" SPKey= |> |> "W98.SE" |> |> conv_loc = "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion" |> |> sharedtools= "Micros~1\TextConv" |> |> |> |> ;Localizable strings |> |> UpdName="Windows 98 Q823559 Patch" |> |> AdvPackWarn="You need a newer version of advpack.dll." |> |> SrcDiskName="Q823559 Patch" |> |> |> |> |> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message |> |> | news:ughlh8wJJHA.5516@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |> |> |> Jim wrote: |> |> |> | That program, critical update, is still stating that the |> |> |> | update is not installed. |> |> |> |> |> |> I see elsewhere you said you have all the registry keys I |> |> |> posted, which must include the one that displays the file |> |> |> versions. What about those file versions as they appear in the |> |> |> files themselves in Explorer properties...?... |> |> |> |> |> |> 27-Jun-2003 02:19 2003.1100.5426 311,864 Html32.cnv |> |> |> 27-Jun-2003 02:19 2003.1100.5426 116,288 Msconv97.dll |> |> |> |> |> |> If those match in the files themselves, for sure you got the |> |> |> update, & all we really want is for Windows Update to stop |> |> |> offering it. And are the files both located in...?... |> |> |> |> |> |> C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\TEXTCONV |> |> |> |> |> |> You may also have a copy of each in C:\Windows\Options\Cabs (or |> |> |> equivalent) as I do. But they should be nowhere else-- are |> |> |> they? If so, what versions? |> |> |> |> |> |> | I think you [PCR] may have exposed why this is happening. |> |> |> | The regedit key: |> |> |> | |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> |> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\Updat |> |> |> es\W |> |> |> | 98.SE\UPDQ823559 |> |> |> | |> |> |> | This should be in Win98 updates not Win98 SE updates. The |> |> |> | Citical Update program most likely reads the msinfo32 log |> |> |> | first. It does not see this in Win98 updates and ignores it |> |> |> | in Win98 SE updates. Understand? |> |> |> |> |> |> That can't be the problem because Q823559 isn't constantly |> |> |> offered to me. They've never been offered more than once to me. |> |> |> What do you see for those files in...?... |> |> |> |> |> |> "START button, Run, QFECheck, W98.SE, UPDQ823559" |> |> |> |> |> |> Is it showing the correct versions? Too bad the fact you have |> |> |> that "IsInstalled" key set right isn't the end of this! But |> |> |> Terhune once said there's no telling what Windows Update is |> |> |> looking for in these matters! |> |> |> |> |> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message |> |> |> | news:%239NfMtaJJHA.1308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... |> |> |> |> Jim wrote: |> |> |> |> | OK, next I tried the reinstall of ie6setup with [radio |> |> |> |> | button] reinstall all components (which is not a minimal) |> |> |> |> | and went thru the whole approach again. Here I had 3 |> |> |> |> | critical updates to install with a reboot at the end. This |> |> |> |> | is the log of win update on this machine which appears to |> |> |> |> | be successful. |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> ...snip... |> |> |> |> | Download destination root folder is: c:\WUTemp 2008-10-03 |> |> |> |> | 17:31:18 21:31:18 Success IUENGINE Downloaded |> |> |> |> | file |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> | |> | http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/cabpool/IE6.0sp1-KB837009-x86-ENU_416d4903c2a4703fa0510aa71f51bef.exe |> |> |> |> | 2008-10-03 17:31:18 21:31:18 Success IUENGINE |> |> |> |> | Local path |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q837009_OE6_SP1_W98WinME_Only\IE6.0sp1-KB837009- |> |> |> |> x86- |> |> |> |> | ENU.exe 2008-10-03 17:31:23 21:31:23 Success IUENGINE |> |> |> |> | Downloaded file |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> | |> | http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/cabpool/823559USA8_0e714506b380e4be11ff07b31da9da9.EXE |> |> |> |> | 2008-10-03 17:31:23 21:31:23 Success IUENGINE |> |> |> |> | Local path |> |> |> |> | c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823559_98\823559USA8.EXE |> |> |> |> | 2008-10-03 17:31:35 21:31:35 Success IUENGINE |> |> |> |> | Downloaded file |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> | |> | http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/cabpool/q313829_5EEDD33FA704078BE5873EFA6E8C3D62B82C2EFF.exe |> |> |> |> | 2008-10-03 17:31:35 21:31:35 Success IUENGINE |> |> |> |> | Local path |> |> |> |> | c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q313829_W98_5285\q313829.exe |> |> |> |> | 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE |> |> |> |> | See iuhist.xml for details: Download finished 2008-10-03 |> |> |> |> | 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success ...snip... I will check at |> |> |> |> | Windows Update scan to see if this still triggers the |> |> |> |> | update. |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> Yep, looks like you got 3 of them that time. I hope that |> |> |> |> solves it & you will not be offered any of them (especially |> |> |> |> 823559) again. But, if so, here are a few things to check... |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> (1) Try to uninstall it FIRST, at "Control Panel, Add/Remove |> |> |> |> Programs, Install/Uninstall tab". It looks like this: |> |> |> |> "Windows 98 Q823559 Update". Now, go to Windows Update, and |> |> |> |> see whether it will come in well-- & just once. |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> (2) What are your versions of these files...?... |> |> |> |> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=kb;en-us;823559 |> |> |> |> ...Quote.. Win98 files... |> |> |> |> Date Time Version Size |> |> |> |> File name |> |> |> |> |> |> |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> |> |> |> --- 27-Jun-2003 02:19 2003.1100.5426 311,864 Html32.cnv |> |> |> |> 27-Jun-2003 02:19 2003.1100.5426 116,288 Msconv97.dll |> |> |> |> ...End quote..... |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> START button, Find, F/F, "Html32.cnv, Msconv97.dll". |> |> |> |> (No quotes, yes comma). R-Clk, & select Properties. |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> I suppose you DID get the update, if your files look like |> |> |> |> that. |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> What about this Registry key...?... |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Active |> |> |> |> Setup\Installed |> |> |> |> Components\{2806b4d1-cadf-4568-99df-1c8836a6b4bc}] |> |> |> |> @="Windows 98 Q823559 Update" "IsInstalled"=dword:00000001 |> |> |> |> "Locale"="EN" |> |> |> |> "Version"="4.10.0.2222" |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> To see it... |> |> |> |> (a) "START button, Run, Regedit" |> |> |> |> (b) Click plus signs, beginning at "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE", |> |> |> |> & ending with....................... "Installed |> |> |> |> Components". © Click |> |> |> |> "{2806b4d1-cadf-4568-99df-1c8836a6b4bc}" in the left pane. |> |> |> |> (d) Look in the right pane. What do you see? |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> And this one, which puts it into the left pane at... |> |> |> |> "START button, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Software |> |> |> |> Updates, W98.SE"...?... |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\Upda |> |> |> |> tes\W98.SE\UPDQ823559] |> |> |> |> @="Windows 98 Q823559 Update" |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> "C:\\PROGRA~1\\COMMON~1\\Micros~1\\TextConv\\html32.cnv"="2003.1100.5426 |> |> |> |> .0" |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> "C:\\PROGRA~1\\COMMON~1\\Micros~1\\TextConv\\msconv97.dll"="2003.1100.54 |> |> |> |> 26.0" |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> Finally, there is this Registry key, which puts it in |> |> |> |> Add/Remove... |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\ |> |> |> |> Q823559] |> |> |> |> @="" |> |> |> |> "DisplayName"="Windows 98 Q823559 Update" |> |> |> |> "UninstallString"="RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection |> |> |> |> C:\\WINDOWS\\INF\\QFE\\W98.SE\\823559UN.INF" |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> | "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message |> |> |> |> | news:O88PZROJJHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... |> |> |> |> |> [begin crosspost to Win98 General newsgroup] |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> Thread history: |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> | |> | http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update/browse_frm/thread/d5c99b0ae721f42f/455c688cdb10b216 |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> The 0x801901F4 error(s) means that the update(s) failed |> |> |> |> |> to download AND install. |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> IIRC only older versions of Zone Alarm firewall will work |> |> |> |> |> properly in Win98, Jim. If you're NOT running Zone Alarm |> |> |> |> |> v6.1.744.1, uninstall it now. [if you're connecting to |> |> |> |> |> the DSL modem via a router, the router alone should |> |> |> |> |> provide adequate protection for the Win98 box. Others |> |> |> |> |> here are sure to disagree with me but so be it.] |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> Moving on... |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> [You will want to print or copy/paste the following |> |> |> |> |> instructions into Notepad for offline reference.] |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> 1. AFAIK, no currently supported version of SpySweeper's |> |> |> |> |> supported in Win98. Assuming you've not purchased |> |> |> |> |> SpySweeper (or if you don't get if "free" from your ISP |> |> |> |> |> or MSN), please (a) disable all SpySweeper Guards |> |> |> |> |> (protections) then (b) uninstall it. |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> 2. Very briefly & temporarily, disable ZA firewall (if |> |> |> |> |> still installed) *and* all SpySweeper Guards (if still |> |> |> |> |> installed) *and* Avast *and* physically disconnect the |> |> |> |> |> machine from the internet. Don't reconnect until Step #4 |> |> |> |> |> below! |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> 3a. Now overinstall IE6 SP1 per my previous reply to this |> |> |> |> |> thread: |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> |> | |> | http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update/msg/c2441e1a72a2d39b |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> 3b. After rebooting, repeat Step #2 above!! |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> 4. Now reconnect to the internet and go to Windows Update |> |> |> |> |> and try again. Follow all prompts. |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> NB: Don't do ANYTHING else online until Avast has been |> |> |> |> |> re-enabled and (if you don't connect via a router) until |> |> |> |> |> ZA (v6.1.744.1 or earlier) has been re-enabled!! |> |> |> |> |> -- |> |> |> |> |> ~PA Bear |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> -- |> |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> |> |> |> Should things get worse after this, |> |> |> |> PCR |> |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net |> |> |> |> |> |> -- |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> |> |> Should things get worse after this, |> |> |> PCR |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net |> |> |> |> -- |> |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> |> Should things get worse after this, |> |> PCR |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net |> |> -- |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> Should things get worse after this, |> PCR |> pcrrcp@netzero.net -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
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