Guest alice Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 I set my XP PC to reboot into safe mode automatically, using msconfig. Upon reboot, it asks for my login, and when I enter it it says it is incorrect. It is not incorrect, it is the login I have used for years now, never changed it. So my only thought was to get to the boot options using F8 and choose to boot normally, but when I do this, the keyboard suddenly stops working. I can get to the boot menu, but then the arrow keys do not work so I cannot select a different option or even hit return to accept the one given, and I notice that the caps lock key will not work at this point. When I try a different keyboard, I can't even get F8 to work. What are my options at this point?
Guest JS Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Re: locked out of login There is a hidden 'Administrator' account (the account name is: Administrator) in Windows. The default password for this hidden account is normally blank (none). You should see this account listed in Safe Mode. Have you tried using the account named "Administrator" in Safe Mode? JS http://www.pagestart.com "alice" <alice@fearofdolls.com> wrote in message news:a9c5f2d4-caca-48a5-afbd-4364724d3612@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >I set my XP PC to reboot into safe mode automatically, using msconfig. > Upon reboot, it asks for my login, and when I enter it it says it is > incorrect. It is not incorrect, it is the login I have used for years > now, never changed it. So my only thought was to get to the boot > options using F8 and choose to boot normally, but when I do this, the > keyboard suddenly stops working. I can get to the boot menu, but then > the arrow keys do not work so I cannot select a different option or > even hit return to accept the one given, and I notice that the caps > lock key will not work at this point. When I try a different keyboard, > I can't even get F8 to work. > What are my options at this point?
Guest alice Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Re: locked out of login On Oct 12, 5:50 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: > There is a hidden 'Administrator' account (the account name is: > Administrator) in Windows. > The default password for this hidden account is normally blank (none). > You should see this account listed in Safe Mode. > > Have you tried using the account named "Administrator" in Safe Mode? > > JShttp://www.pagestart.com > > "alice" <al...@fearofdolls.com> wrote in message > > news:a9c5f2d4-caca-48a5-afbd-4364724d3612@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > > > >I set my XP PC to reboot into safe mode automatically, using msconfig. > > Upon reboot, it asks for my login, and when I enter it it says it is > > incorrect. It is not incorrect, it is the login I have used for years > > now, never changed it. So my only thought was to get to the boot > > options using F8 and choose to boot normally, but when I do this, the > > keyboard suddenly stops working. I can get to the boot menu, but then > > the arrow keys do not work so I cannot select a different option or > > even hit return to accept the one given, and I notice that the caps > > lock key will not work at this point. When I try a different keyboard, > > I can't even get F8 to work. > > What are my options at this point?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I tried that, and I tried using just 'admin' as well, still no luck. I did discover that if I got to the boot menu and then used a ps2 keyboard I could select normal boot, but I then discovered that this just brings me back to the safe mode boot, I suppose since it's the boot.ini file that's changed. I figured I could pull out the drive and connect it to another PC, then manually enter that file...?
Guest Ronaldo Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Re: locked out of login The boot.ini file has nothing to do with logon identification, what seems to be the problem is that the keyboard driver may be corrupted or gets disabled in safe mode which it should not.. most drivers get disabled in Safe Mode, but not the essential drivers as keyboard & mouse drivers. When you try another keyboard you have limited function and this indicates that the driver is probably corrupted and has limited function only. If your password includes special characters or capitals, you may be typing something but the system may be reading something else. You could try with a USB port keyboard & mouse which may use a different driver and hope it does the trick. Another possible solution is if you have the "Last known good configuration" available in the Safe Mode options list, use it. This is just a wild guess but you may have an option in the BIOS to enable caps lock of have better control of the keyboard. See the keys to enter the BIOS according to computer manufacturer. http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm The next options that may help solve your problem are, replace the keyboard & mouse driver (same driver for both), or use a live CD to modify the registry and remove the Safe Mode setting or enable autologon. Options to replace the drivers are: 1.- to reinstall the driver from the Windows XP CD through the Recovery Console. 2.- to install the HD in another computer as slave and renew the driver 3.- to use a live CD to renew the keyboard mouse driver 4.- to reinstall the system in repair mode. The drivers you need to replace are the first and second in this list but you may want to replace them all to be sure. I8042PRT.SYS - Port driver for the keyboard and the PS/2-compatible mouse (plugged into the i8042 auxiliary port) KBDCLASS.SYS - Class driver for keyboard devices MOUCLASS.SYS - Class driver for mouse and other pointing devices INPORT.SYS - Port driver for the Microsoft Inport bus mouse, and other 100% compatible mice BUSMOUSE.SYS - Port driver for the old Microsoft bus mouse, and other, older 100% compatible mice SERMOUSE.SYS - Port driver for the Microsoft and Logitech serial mice, and other 100% compatible mice Drivers are located in: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS http://support.microsoft.com/kb/103056/en How to install and use the Recovery Console in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307654 Using a live CD you could modify the registry to remove the Safe Mode setting or enable autologon. The Ultimate Boot CD for Windows in ISO file can be downloaded from http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ To disable safe mode from the registry, delete the "Option" key. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Option How to enable autologon http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310584 ------------------------------------------- "alice" <alice@fearofdolls.com> escribió en el mensaje news:e5422a8c-70cc-49da-b1ec-20e7d6d2f034@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... On Oct 12, 5:50 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: > There is a hidden 'Administrator' account (the account name is: > Administrator) in Windows. > The default password for this hidden account is normally blank (none). > You should see this account listed in Safe Mode. > > Have you tried using the account named "Administrator" in Safe Mode? > > JShttp://www.pagestart.com > > "alice" <al...@fearofdolls.com> wrote in message > > news:a9c5f2d4-caca-48a5-afbd-4364724d3612@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > > > >I set my XP PC to reboot into safe mode automatically, using msconfig. > > Upon reboot, it asks for my login, and when I enter it it says it is > > incorrect. It is not incorrect, it is the login I have used for years > > now, never changed it. So my only thought was to get to the boot > > options using F8 and choose to boot normally, but when I do this, the > > keyboard suddenly stops working. I can get to the boot menu, but then > > the arrow keys do not work so I cannot select a different option or > > even hit return to accept the one given, and I notice that the caps > > lock key will not work at this point. When I try a different keyboard, > > I can't even get F8 to work. > > What are my options at this point?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I tried that, and I tried using just 'admin' as well, still no luck. I did discover that if I got to the boot menu and then used a ps2 keyboard I could select normal boot, but I then discovered that this just brings me back to the safe mode boot, I suppose since it's the boot.ini file that's changed. I figured I could pull out the drive and connect it to another PC, then manually enter that file...?
Guest alice Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Re: locked out of login On Oct 12, 10:33 pm, "Ronaldo" <private_ema...@hotmail.com> wrote: > The boot.ini file has nothing to do with logon identification, what seems to > be the problem is that the keyboard driver may be corrupted or gets disabled > in safe mode which it should not.. most drivers get disabled in Safe Mode, > but not the essential drivers as keyboard & mouse drivers. When you try > another keyboard you have limited function and this indicates that the > driver is probably corrupted and has limited function only. If your password > includes special characters or capitals, you may be typing something but the > system may be reading something else. You could try with a USB port > keyboard & mouse which may use a different driver and hope it does the > trick. Another possible solution is if you have the "Last known good > configuration" available in the Safe Mode options list, use it. > > This is just a wild guess but you may have an option in the BIOS to enable > caps lock of have better control of the keyboard. See the keys to enter the > BIOS according to computer manufacturer.http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm > > The next options that may help solve your problem are, replace the keyboard > & mouse driver (same driver for both), or use a live CD to modify the > registry and remove the Safe Mode setting or enable autologon. > > Options to replace the drivers are: > 1.- to reinstall the driver from the Windows XP CD through the Recovery > Console. > 2.- to install the HD in another computer as slave and renew the driver > 3.- to use a live CD to renew the keyboard mouse driver > 4.- to reinstall the system in repair mode. > > The drivers you need to replace are the first and second in this list but > you may want to replace them all to be sure. > I8042PRT.SYS - Port driver for the keyboard and the PS/2-compatible mouse > (plugged into the i8042 auxiliary port) > KBDCLASS.SYS - Class driver for keyboard devices > MOUCLASS.SYS - Class driver for mouse and other pointing devices > INPORT.SYS - Port driver for the Microsoft Inport bus mouse, and other > 100% compatible mice > BUSMOUSE.SYS - Port driver for the old Microsoft bus mouse, and other, older > 100% compatible mice > SERMOUSE.SYS - Port driver for the Microsoft and Logitech serial mice, and > other 100% compatible mice > > Drivers are located in: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERShttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/103056/en > > How to install and use the Recovery Console in Windows XPhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/307654 > > Using a live CD you could modify the registry to remove the Safe Mode > setting or enable autologon. The Ultimate Boot CD for Windows in ISO file > can be downloaded from http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ > > To disable safe mode from the registry, delete the "Option" key. > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Option > > How to enable autologonhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/310584 > > ------------------------------------------- > "alice" <al...@fearofdolls.com> escribió en el mensajenews:e5422a8c-70cc-49da-b1ec-20e7d6d2f034@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... > On Oct 12, 5:50 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: > > > > > > > There is a hidden 'Administrator' account (the account name is: > > Administrator) in Windows. > > The default password for this hidden account is normally blank (none). > > You should see this account listed in Safe Mode. > > > Have you tried using the account named "Administrator" in Safe Mode? > > > JShttp://www.pagestart.com > > > "alice" <al...@fearofdolls.com> wrote in message > > >news:a9c5f2d4-caca-48a5-afbd-4364724d3612@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com.... > > > >I set my XP PC to reboot into safe mode automatically, using msconfig. > > > Upon reboot, it asks for my login, and when I enter it it says it is > > > incorrect. It is not incorrect, it is the login I have used for years > > > now, never changed it. So my only thought was to get to the boot > > > options using F8 and choose to boot normally, but when I do this, the > > > keyboard suddenly stops working. I can get to the boot menu, but then > > > the arrow keys do not work so I cannot select a different option or > > > even hit return to accept the one given, and I notice that the caps > > > lock key will not work at this point. When I try a different keyboard, > > > I can't even get F8 to work. > > > What are my options at this point?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I tried that, and I tried using just 'admin' as well, still no luck. I > did discover that if I got to the boot menu and then used a ps2 > keyboard I could select normal boot, but I then discovered that this > just brings me back to the safe mode boot, I suppose since it's the > boot.ini file that's changed. I figured I could pull out the drive and > connect it to another PC, then manually enter that file...?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks. Could I edit the registry entry by putting the drive in another PC as a slave and access it that way? And woulnd't editing the boot.ini file by removing the /safemode do the same thing? I"m jus thinking that the last time it booted normally it did accept my log in and I had no keyboard issues either, so if I could just get it to boot that way I might be able to get in. I was booting into safe mode to try and get rid of a virus, but when I tried to do it manually that's when the keyboard didn't work, so I couldn't choose any boot options, that's when I decided to try and make it get there automatically.
Guest Ronaldo Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Re: locked out of login I'm not sure you can connect to the slave drive registry but you can try and hope. http://www.google.com.mx/search?hl=es&q=remote+registry+connection&btnG=Buscar&meta= Yes you're right, erasing the "/safeboot:minimal" part of the line just may do it.. but there's a chance other changes could interfere, for instance, it may not make the necesary change in the registry or the virus may be the actual cause for the whole problem, so it is possible the boot.ini edition may not be all that's needed, but you can certainly try, and once the drive is in slave installation, you should scan it to remove the virus, this is more important than the safe boot issue, there is a good chance you may succeed after removing the virus from the master drive. ------------------------------------------------------- Thanks. Could I edit the registry entry by putting the drive in another PC as a slave and access it that way? And woulnd't editing the boot.ini file by removing the /safemode do the same thing? I"m jus thinking that the last time it booted normally it did accept my log in and I had no keyboard issues either, so if I could just get it to boot that way I might be able to get in. I was booting into safe mode to try and get rid of a virus, but when I tried to do it manually that's when the keyboard didn't work, so I couldn't choose any boot options, that's when I decided to try and make it get there automatically.
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