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Guest Old Navy
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I have Windows XP Pro SP3 on my computer. I also have 3 external drives

connected with USB to IDE cables. I used to be able to use these drives with

no problem, but I have had to format my HDD and reinstall Windows about 6

times now. These drives are no longer visible in My Computer. When I go to

Device Manager it shows the 3 drives with a yellow exclamation point. I have

attempted to reinstall these drivers, using my Windows disk, to no avail. The

cables came without drivers, stating that Windows had the drivers already.

Can anyone help me to install the needed drivers or where I may be able to

find them?

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Guest Touch Base
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

 

"Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

news:D63BA742-54D0-4BC7-9806-A2E821CE4401@microsoft.com...

I have Windows XP Pro SP3 on my computer. I also have 3 external drives

connected with USB to IDE cables. I used to be able to use these drives with

no problem, but I have had to format my HDD and reinstall Windows about 6

times now. These drives are no longer visible in My Computer. When I go to

Device Manager it shows the 3 drives with a yellow exclamation point. I have

attempted to reinstall these drivers, using my Windows disk, to no avail.

The

cables came without drivers, stating that Windows had the drivers already.

Can anyone help me to install the needed drivers or where I may be able to

find them?

 

=====================================================================

What type of drive are they 3.5" or 2.5"? Do these ext drives have their

own power source?

 

If it's a yellow exclamation mark '!' then it could just be a case of right

clicking it and selecting update driver, or you could try uninstalling it

first, remove ext HDD, restart computer, plug ext HDD back in, XP should

install the drivers required automatically. You may get a warning that

Windows needs to reboot for them to take effect so watch for that and don't

be too eager to access the drives if the system suddenly discovers them.

 

 

--

Regards,

Touch Base

Report back on the results, good or bad so others may benefit

Guest Old Navy
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

They are 3.5" drives and they have a power supply connected to them. I have

tried updating the drivers, uninstalling them, restarting Windows with them

unplugged then plugging them in. I have even formatted the HDD, reinstalled

Windows with them unplugged. I have done evrything I know of to reinstall

these drivers and nothing has worked.

 

"Touch Base" wrote:

>

> "Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

> news:D63BA742-54D0-4BC7-9806-A2E821CE4401@microsoft.com...

> I have Windows XP Pro SP3 on my computer. I also have 3 external drives

> connected with USB to IDE cables. I used to be able to use these drives with

> no problem, but I have had to format my HDD and reinstall Windows about 6

> times now. These drives are no longer visible in My Computer. When I go to

> Device Manager it shows the 3 drives with a yellow exclamation point. I have

> attempted to reinstall these drivers, using my Windows disk, to no avail.

> The

> cables came without drivers, stating that Windows had the drivers already.

> Can anyone help me to install the needed drivers or where I may be able to

> find them?

>

> =====================================================================

> What type of drive are they 3.5" or 2.5"? Do these ext drives have their

> own power source?

>

> If it's a yellow exclamation mark '!' then it could just be a case of right

> clicking it and selecting update driver, or you could try uninstalling it

> first, remove ext HDD, restart computer, plug ext HDD back in, XP should

> install the drivers required automatically. You may get a warning that

> Windows needs to reboot for them to take effect so watch for that and don't

> be too eager to access the drives if the system suddenly discovers them.

>

>

> --

> Regards,

> Touch Base

> Report back on the results, good or bad so others may benefit

>

>

>

Guest Mick Murphy
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

Start>Control Panel>Admin tools>Computer Management>Disk Management

 

Are they recognised in there?

--

Mad Mike

 

 

"Old Navy" wrote:

> They are 3.5" drives and they have a power supply connected to them. I have

> tried updating the drivers, uninstalling them, restarting Windows with them

> unplugged then plugging them in. I have even formatted the HDD, reinstalled

> Windows with them unplugged. I have done evrything I know of to reinstall

> these drivers and nothing has worked.

>

> "Touch Base" wrote:

>

> >

> > "Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

> > news:D63BA742-54D0-4BC7-9806-A2E821CE4401@microsoft.com...

> > I have Windows XP Pro SP3 on my computer. I also have 3 external drives

> > connected with USB to IDE cables. I used to be able to use these drives with

> > no problem, but I have had to format my HDD and reinstall Windows about 6

> > times now. These drives are no longer visible in My Computer. When I go to

> > Device Manager it shows the 3 drives with a yellow exclamation point. I have

> > attempted to reinstall these drivers, using my Windows disk, to no avail.

> > The

> > cables came without drivers, stating that Windows had the drivers already.

> > Can anyone help me to install the needed drivers or where I may be able to

> > find them?

> >

> > =====================================================================

> > What type of drive are they 3.5" or 2.5"? Do these ext drives have their

> > own power source?

> >

> > If it's a yellow exclamation mark '!' then it could just be a case of right

> > clicking it and selecting update driver, or you could try uninstalling it

> > first, remove ext HDD, restart computer, plug ext HDD back in, XP should

> > install the drivers required automatically. You may get a warning that

> > Windows needs to reboot for them to take effect so watch for that and don't

> > be too eager to access the drives if the system suddenly discovers them.

> >

> >

> > --

> > Regards,

> > Touch Base

> > Report back on the results, good or bad so others may benefit

> >

> >

> >

Guest Larry(LJL269)
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

When I had similar problem, I installed drivers from DevMgr & did

'Advanced' install where I told it what folder to find the driver in.

They are tricky sometimes.

 

Hope that helps. Larry

 

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:34:01 -0700, Old Navy <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote:

>I have Windows XP Pro SP3 on my computer. I also have 3 external drives

>connected with USB to IDE cables. I used to be able to use these drives with

>no problem, but I have had to format my HDD and reinstall Windows about 6

>times now. These drives are no longer visible in My Computer. When I go to

>Device Manager it shows the 3 drives with a yellow exclamation point. I have

>attempted to reinstall these drivers, using my Windows disk, to no avail. The

>cables came without drivers, stating that Windows had the drivers already.

>Can anyone help me to install the needed drivers or where I may be able to

>find them?

 

----------------------------------------------------------------------

 

A working unsecure OS is infinitely better than non-working secure OS.

Just spent 1 week cleaning up the mess WUpdate made preventing

hypothetical security problems. http://microscum.com/comsense/

Guest Touch Base
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

 

"Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

news:1CC085DF-99BB-44C3-A9EB-F968BE223179@microsoft.com...

They are 3.5" drives and they have a power supply connected to them. I have

tried updating the drivers, uninstalling them, restarting Windows with them

unplugged then plugging them in. I have even formatted the HDD, reinstalled

Windows with them unplugged. I have done evrything I know of to reinstall

these drivers and nothing has worked.

 

=============================================

 

I would take one of the drives out of the case and connect it up inside your

pc case as a slave and see if windows recognizes it and gives it a drive

letter. Another question that came to mind, when you formatted your hard

drive did you format using FAT32 or NTFS? What file format are the Ext

HDD's?

 

 

--

Regards,

Touch Base

Report back on the results, good or bad so others may benefit

Guest Patrick Keenan
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

 

"Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

news:D63BA742-54D0-4BC7-9806-A2E821CE4401@microsoft.com...

>I have Windows XP Pro SP3 on my computer. I also have 3 external drives

> connected with USB to IDE cables. I used to be able to use these drives

> with

> no problem, but I have had to format my HDD and reinstall Windows about 6

> times now. These drives are no longer visible in My Computer. When I go to

> Device Manager it shows the 3 drives with a yellow exclamation point. I

> have

> attempted to reinstall these drivers, using my Windows disk, to no avail.

> The

> cables came without drivers, stating that Windows had the drivers already.

> Can anyone help me to install the needed drivers or where I may be able to

> find them?

 

You mention that you formatted and reinstalled XP. Did you also reinstall

the motherboard drivers? This is a necessary step.

 

HTH

-pk

Guest Old Navy
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

I have several Removable drives, but when I check the properties they are all

for my different card readers. The external drives are not shown in Disk

Management. Thanks anyway though.

 

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

> Start>Control Panel>Admin tools>Computer Management>Disk Management

>

> Are they recognised in there?

> --

> Mad Mike

>

>

> "Old Navy" wrote:

>

> > They are 3.5" drives and they have a power supply connected to them. I have

> > tried updating the drivers, uninstalling them, restarting Windows with them

> > unplugged then plugging them in. I have even formatted the HDD, reinstalled

> > Windows with them unplugged. I have done evrything I know of to reinstall

> > these drivers and nothing has worked.

> >

> > "Touch Base" wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > "Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

> > > news:D63BA742-54D0-4BC7-9806-A2E821CE4401@microsoft.com...

> > > I have Windows XP Pro SP3 on my computer. I also have 3 external drives

> > > connected with USB to IDE cables. I used to be able to use these drives with

> > > no problem, but I have had to format my HDD and reinstall Windows about 6

> > > times now. These drives are no longer visible in My Computer. When I go to

> > > Device Manager it shows the 3 drives with a yellow exclamation point. I have

> > > attempted to reinstall these drivers, using my Windows disk, to no avail.

> > > The

> > > cables came without drivers, stating that Windows had the drivers already.

> > > Can anyone help me to install the needed drivers or where I may be able to

> > > find them?

> > >

> > > =====================================================================

> > > What type of drive are they 3.5" or 2.5"? Do these ext drives have their

> > > own power source?

> > >

> > > If it's a yellow exclamation mark '!' then it could just be a case of right

> > > clicking it and selecting update driver, or you could try uninstalling it

> > > first, remove ext HDD, restart computer, plug ext HDD back in, XP should

> > > install the drivers required automatically. You may get a warning that

> > > Windows needs to reboot for them to take effect so watch for that and don't

> > > be too eager to access the drives if the system suddenly discovers them.

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Regards,

> > > Touch Base

> > > Report back on the results, good or bad so others may benefit

> > >

> > >

> > >

Guest Old Navy
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

These drives all came out of my case, they were recognized and had drive

letters. They all presently contain data I would like to have access to. They

are all FAT32 converted to NTFS. I appreciate the effort you put into this.

Thanx {:-)

 

"Touch Base" wrote:

>

> "Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

> news:1CC085DF-99BB-44C3-A9EB-F968BE223179@microsoft.com...

> They are 3.5" drives and they have a power supply connected to them. I have

> tried updating the drivers, uninstalling them, restarting Windows with them

> unplugged then plugging them in. I have even formatted the HDD, reinstalled

> Windows with them unplugged. I have done evrything I know of to reinstall

> these drivers and nothing has worked.

>

> =============================================

>

> I would take one of the drives out of the case and connect it up inside your

> pc case as a slave and see if windows recognizes it and gives it a drive

> letter. Another question that came to mind, when you formatted your hard

> drive did you format using FAT32 or NTFS? What file format are the Ext

> HDD's?

>

>

> --

> Regards,

> Touch Base

> Report back on the results, good or bad so others may benefit

>

>

>

>

Guest Old Navy
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

You will have to explain what you did a little better. I didn't find a way to

install drivers in Device Manager. I did a Refresh, Rescan Disks and Show

Hidden Devices. Nada. I look forward to hearing more from you. Thanx

 

"Larry(LJL269)" wrote:

> When I had similar problem, I installed drivers from DevMgr & did

> 'Advanced' install where I told it what folder to find the driver in.

> They are tricky sometimes.

>

> Hope that helps. Larry

>

> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:34:01 -0700, Old Navy <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote:

>

> >I have Windows XP Pro SP3 on my computer. I also have 3 external drives

> >connected with USB to IDE cables. I used to be able to use these drives with

> >no problem, but I have had to format my HDD and reinstall Windows about 6

> >times now. These drives are no longer visible in My Computer. When I go to

> >Device Manager it shows the 3 drives with a yellow exclamation point. I have

> >attempted to reinstall these drivers, using my Windows disk, to no avail. The

> >cables came without drivers, stating that Windows had the drivers already.

> >Can anyone help me to install the needed drivers or where I may be able to

> >find them?

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> A working unsecure OS is infinitely better than non-working secure OS.

> Just spent 1 week cleaning up the mess WUpdate made preventing

> hypothetical security problems. http://microscum.com/comsense/

>

Guest Old Navy
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

I did immediately install all of the drivers on the MB CD. Also installed the

drivers for my video card.

 

"Patrick Keenan" wrote:

>

> "Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

> news:D63BA742-54D0-4BC7-9806-A2E821CE4401@microsoft.com...

> >I have Windows XP Pro SP3 on my computer. I also have 3 external drives

> > connected with USB to IDE cables. I used to be able to use these drives

> > with

> > no problem, but I have had to format my HDD and reinstall Windows about 6

> > times now. These drives are no longer visible in My Computer. When I go to

> > Device Manager it shows the 3 drives with a yellow exclamation point. I

> > have

> > attempted to reinstall these drivers, using my Windows disk, to no avail.

> > The

> > cables came without drivers, stating that Windows had the drivers already.

> > Can anyone help me to install the needed drivers or where I may be able to

> > find them?

>

> You mention that you formatted and reinstalled XP. Did you also reinstall

> the motherboard drivers? This is a necessary step.

>

> HTH

> -pk

>

>

Guest Touch Base
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

 

"Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

news:BA5B70C1-6496-47D4-900E-A3BC563810A6@microsoft.com...

These drives all came out of my case, they were recognized and had drive

letters. They all presently contain data I would like to have access to.

They

are all FAT32 converted to NTFS. I appreciate the effort you put into this.

Thanx {:-)

 

"Touch Base" wrote:

>

> "Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

> news:1CC085DF-99BB-44C3-A9EB-F968BE223179@microsoft.com...

> They are 3.5" drives and they have a power supply connected to them. I

> have

> tried updating the drivers, uninstalling them, restarting Windows with

> them

> unplugged then plugging them in. I have even formatted the HDD,

> reinstalled

> Windows with them unplugged. I have done evrything I know of to reinstall

> these drivers and nothing has worked.

>

> =============================================

>

> I would take one of the drives out of the case and connect it up inside

> your

> pc case as a slave and see if windows recognizes it and gives it a drive

> letter. Another question that came to mind, when you formatted your hard

> drive did you format using FAT32 or NTFS? What file format are the Ext

> HDD's?

 

========================

Can you connect one of them up as a slave again and open disk management.

Obviously it will be given a drive letter [i hate to presume but,]

 

Right click the drive and select 'Mark Partition as Active', then open up My

Computer and check if the drive can be seen. If so disconnect it, put it

back in it's enclosure, connect it via the usb cable and see if it is now

recognized.

 

Of course if you want to view any data on those drives you can by clicking

on Explore but our quest is to be able to get the system to see the drives

either through My Computer or Windows Explorer.

 

 

--

Regards,

Touch Base

Report back on the results, good or bad so others may benefit

Guest Gary Brandenburg
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

Have you even tried to right-click or double-click any devices in Device Manager?

 

~Gary

 

 

"Old Navy" <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote in message

news:155CB7EF-B39E-41BB-B283-09816BF9ABA8@microsoft.com...

> You will have to explain what you did a little better. I didn't find a way to

> install drivers in Device Manager. I did a Refresh, Rescan Disks and Show

> Hidden Devices. Nada. I look forward to hearing more from you. Thanx

>

> "Larry(LJL269)" wrote:

>

>> When I had similar problem, I installed drivers from DevMgr & did

>> 'Advanced' install where I told it what folder to find the driver in.

>> They are tricky sometimes.

>>

>> Hope that helps. Larry

>>

>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:34:01 -0700, Old Navy <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote:

>>

>> >I have Windows XP Pro SP3 on my computer. I also have 3 external drives

>> >connected with USB to IDE cables. I used to be able to use these drives with

>> >no problem, but I have had to format my HDD and reinstall Windows about 6

>> >times now. These drives are no longer visible in My Computer. When I go to

>> >Device Manager it shows the 3 drives with a yellow exclamation point. I have

>> >attempted to reinstall these drivers, using my Windows disk, to no avail. The

>> >cables came without drivers, stating that Windows had the drivers already.

>> >Can anyone help me to install the needed drivers or where I may be able to

>> >find them?

>>

>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>> A working unsecure OS is infinitely better than non-working secure OS.

>> Just spent 1 week cleaning up the mess WUpdate made preventing

>> hypothetical security problems. http://microscum.com/comsense/

>>

Guest Larry(LJL269)
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:27:00 -0700, Old Navy <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote:

>You will have to explain what you did a little better. I didn't find a way to

>install drivers in Device Manager. I did a Refresh, Rescan Disks and Show

>Hidden Devices. Nada. I look forward to hearing more from you. Thanx

 

 

Here r my notes for what I was doing- a subset of which applies to u:

 

==============================================

The best method of installing the Adaptec USB 2.0 drivers in Windows

XP is to disable the Microsoft drivers first and then update to the

Adaptec version of drivers. This can be done in the following order:

 

Download and extract the current version of Adaptec USB 2.0 drivers.

D/L to folder F:\My

Documents\Documentation\Hardware\USB\...\v31a driver#2 & extract to

folder F:\adaptec\usb2

--->> Open up the Device Manager in Windows XP and branch down the

category Universal Serial Bus controllers. Disable 1x element with

'USB2' or 'Enhanced' & 2x elements with 'NEC PCI to USB Open Host

Controller' each having a 'USB Root Hub' & possably more listed under

it.

You will see a red "X" next to 'USB2' or 'Enhanced' entry. Rt-clk on

this entry and choose "update driver."

When the Hardware Update Wizard appears, select "Install from a list

or specific location (Advanced)."

In the next window choose "Don't search, I will choose the driver to

install" and continue.

The next window should show you the compatible models that XP has

found for the Adaptec card. Bypass this and choose the "Have disk..."

button.

Windows XP will by default look to the floppy disk drive for an

updated driver. Select the "Browse..." button instead and point

Windows to the folder where you have downloaded and extracted the

Adaptec drivers, namely 'F:\adaptec\usb2').

Choose the "adptusb2.inf" file and select the 'Open' button & 'OK'

button to continue.

You should now see the 'USB2' or 'Enhanced' entry renamed to something

like 'Adaptec...PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller'. Click the 'Next'

button to install it.

You may receive a warning that the driver "has not passed Windows logo

testing to verify its compatibility." This is normal for the driver

installation and you should select the "Continue anyway" button.

Windows should install the drivers and then will likely generate an

error window stating that XP 'had a problem starting the driver.' This

also is normal since we have disabled the driver ahead of time. Select

the "Finish" button to continue. The Device Problems Troubleshooting

Wizard may come up and ask you if you want to try to enable the

driver. Select the "Next" and "Finish" buttons to re enable the driver

listing.

 

This should enable the Adaptec 'Enhanced' listing for the card in the

Device Manager and the USB 2.0 drivers should now be successfully

installed.

 

I now repeated the process for 2x elements with 'NEC PCI to USB Open

Host Controller' but when the Hardware Update Wizard appears, select

'Search for driver update' rather than "Install from a list or

specific location (Advanced)." It didnt find a better driver

anyway-these 2 always use MS drivers as do the 'USB Root Hub's .

 

==================================================

 

 

 

----------------------------------------------------------------------

 

A working unsecure OS is infinitely better than non-working secure OS.

Just spent 1 week cleaning up the mess WUpdate made preventing

hypothetical security problems. http://microscum.com/comsense/

Guest Gary Brandenburg
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

Click on the "Don't search,I will choose the driver to install"

When the listed drivers show up,that you're talking about,click on the "Have Disk"

button & then browse to the location that you saved the driver files.

 

Most driver downloads have a *setup* file amongst the files, that will install it for

you. I would,also check there.

 

~Gary

 

 

"Larry(LJL269)" <NO@EMAIL.COM> wrote in message

news:6usaf4l7fq9i2nf9tmr9iu4qubvbe4a7q6@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:27:00 -0700, Old Navy <sroyeton@cox.net> wrote:

>

>>You will have to explain what you did a little better. I didn't find a way to

>>install drivers in Device Manager. I did a Refresh, Rescan Disks and Show

>>Hidden Devices. Nada. I look forward to hearing more from you. Thanx

>

>

> Here r my notes for what I was doing- a subset of which applies to u:

>

> ==============================================

> The best method of installing the Adaptec USB 2.0 drivers in Windows

> XP is to disable the Microsoft drivers first and then update to the

> Adaptec version of drivers. This can be done in the following order:

>

> Download and extract the current version of Adaptec USB 2.0 drivers.

> D/L to folder F:\My

> Documents\Documentation\Hardware\USB\...\v31a driver#2 & extract to

> folder F:\adaptec\usb2

> --->> Open up the Device Manager in Windows XP and branch down the

> category Universal Serial Bus controllers. Disable 1x element with

> 'USB2' or 'Enhanced' & 2x elements with 'NEC PCI to USB Open Host

> Controller' each having a 'USB Root Hub' & possably more listed under

> it.

> You will see a red "X" next to 'USB2' or 'Enhanced' entry. Rt-clk on

> this entry and choose "update driver."

> When the Hardware Update Wizard appears, select "Install from a list

> or specific location (Advanced)."

> In the next window choose "Don't search, I will choose the driver to

> install" and continue.

> The next window should show you the compatible models that XP has

> found for the Adaptec card. Bypass this and choose the "Have disk..."

> button.

> Windows XP will by default look to the floppy disk drive for an

> updated driver. Select the "Browse..." button instead and point

> Windows to the folder where you have downloaded and extracted the

> Adaptec drivers, namely 'F:\adaptec\usb2').

> Choose the "adptusb2.inf" file and select the 'Open' button & 'OK'

> button to continue.

> You should now see the 'USB2' or 'Enhanced' entry renamed to something

> like 'Adaptec...PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller'. Click the 'Next'

> button to install it.

> You may receive a warning that the driver "has not passed Windows logo

> testing to verify its compatibility." This is normal for the driver

> installation and you should select the "Continue anyway" button.

> Windows should install the drivers and then will likely generate an

> error window stating that XP 'had a problem starting the driver.' This

> also is normal since we have disabled the driver ahead of time. Select

> the "Finish" button to continue. The Device Problems Troubleshooting

> Wizard may come up and ask you if you want to try to enable the

> driver. Select the "Next" and "Finish" buttons to re enable the driver

> listing.

>

> This should enable the Adaptec 'Enhanced' listing for the card in the

> Device Manager and the USB 2.0 drivers should now be successfully

> installed.

>

> I now repeated the process for 2x elements with 'NEC PCI to USB Open

> Host Controller' but when the Hardware Update Wizard appears, select

> 'Search for driver update' rather than "Install from a list or

> specific location (Advanced)." It didnt find a better driver

> anyway-these 2 always use MS drivers as do the 'USB Root Hub's .

>

> ==================================================

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> A working unsecure OS is infinitely better than non-working secure OS.

> Just spent 1 week cleaning up the mess WUpdate made preventing

> hypothetical security problems. http://microscum.com/comsense/

Guest Larry(LJL269)
Posted

Re: USB Drivers

 

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:00:31 -0400, "Gary Brandenburg"

<Gary@whatever.com> wrote:

>Most driver downloads have a *setup* file amongst the files, that will install it for

>you. I would,also check there.

as I recall, driver exe told u it was putting ini file,... at a

location & u point it there, not to exe.

 

Sorry cant remember more but it was the ONLY way in 4-5 attempts that

worked!

 

Hope that helps. Larry

----------------------------------------------------------------------

 

A working unsecure OS is infinitely better than non-working secure OS.

Just spent 1 week cleaning up the mess WUpdate made preventing

hypothetical security problems. http://microscum.com/comsense/


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