Osprey Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 I have a Dell 9200 .. 4GB RAM Intel core-2 Duo 2.4GHz It has an nVidia Geforce 9600 GS 256MB Running W7 32 bit Since I started editing HD video found that PC can't keep up with rendering and processor flat lines, I intend building a new PC at some point .... as an interim if I changed to a faster Graphics card now would that improve things .... hoping if graphics work was hived off the GPU then PC will be fast enough. I use 2 x HDD and having paging files and apps set on separate HD to OS I don't use it for gaming .... Photoshop picture editing (and no problem there) Video editing HD video ... this is where it struggles. It was OK on non HD, but 1080p is showing it's limitations. If so any recommendations on what Graphics card to get, I would then aim to use that card in new PC when I build one. Quote
KenB Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 Hi Since I started editing HD video found that PC can't keep up with rendering and processor flat lines, I am no expert on what you are doing but I think, apart from your Video Card, you may be operating at the limit of your 32 bit system. 64bit systems process data much quicker and you can put in 8GB ( even 16GB ) RAM. Your 32 bit system is maxed out with the 4GB RAM that you have. Synapse or Nev may be able to add more. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Osprey Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 Hi I am no expert on what you are doing but I think, apart from your Video Card, you may be operating at the limit of your 32 bit system. 64bit systems process data much quicker and you can put in 8GB ( even 16GB ) RAM. Your 32 bit system is maxed out with the 4GB RAM that you have. Synapse or Nev may be able to add more. So you are telling me what I don't want to hear ... but sort of expected :-) that I need to look at upgrading whole PC ... I built a couple of PC's when you used to load DOS via FDD, since then could not buy parts for price th likes of Dell sold a PC for. Maybe as I want a high performance PC, I ought to look at building again .... guess my HDD's (SATA) will be OK. Quote
KenB Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 I would really like a second opinion on this before I tell you to go spend your hard-earned cash. I will ask one of the other mods to take a look. as I said - I am no expert at video editing. Your SATA HDDs will be OK - but if you are looking for speed Solid State drives are much quicker ..........and considerably more expensive. Hang on until I can get another opinion for you :) Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Osprey Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 I had thought of usding an SSD for the OS C:/ and the pair of SATA as a RAID striped paid for Apps & data storage. Quote
KenB Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Hi I have been in touch with one of our other moderators. Synapse has had a look at this thread and thinks that the system, being of an older spec, may be "bottlenecking". Effectively the system cannot cope with the flow of data. Do you know if your SATA drives are 5400 r/m or 7200 r/m ? If the slower - then this will add to the problem. Your CPU [ Intel Core 2 ] is probably not up to the job. An i7 would be better - but will not be compatible with your present motherboard socket. Synapse confirms my thoughts - to do what you want properly you need a new 64 bit OS with either 7200 SATA HDD or SSD. And to answer your original question - an upgrade to your present Video card - and more RAM. You may find this of interest: click here Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Plastic Nev Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Hi, as has been said, It really does need a good deal of upgrading and all round as suggested. I also deal quite a bit in video and recently bought a HD capable camera. As video technology improves, such as the high resolution HD formats available now, and no doubt will get even better, we are getting to the point where high end gaming machines are the way to go in order to handle all the extra data that these video's contain. I already have Windows 7 64bit, a quad core CPU, 4GB RAM, and a 7,200 RPM Seagate HDD, but not yet got a graphics card and relying as yet on the graphics chips on the motherboard. (Intend doing a build later to improve on RAM, so a card will be obtained then.) Editing using the latest Windows Moviemaker, and during playback in that there is some odd stuttering, however once the video has been saved after editing, it does play well, and uploaded a trip on the Ravenglass and Eskdale railway on to youtube for friends to view. If interested to view quality, it is here= unfortunately it is only WMV high definition and not a better format available, as the only paid for video editor I have actually needs higher specs to work well. The end of it all though, it means even I should look at an upgrade of at least buying a graphics card to improve the handling. Because I am limited by the motherboard, more RAM is not possible, so intend a new build as and when the other bills have been paid. However as an interim thing for yourself, a better graphics card might help a little, and at least if you intend building in the future, it will already be there to use then. Nev. Quote Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here. If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members. Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I have installed Windows, now how do I install the curtains? 😄
Osprey Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 However as an interim thing for yourself, a better graphics card might help a little, and at least if you intend building in the future, it will already be there to use then. Nev. OK .. need to build a new PC and donate this one to family I think. I think a 64bit ASUS Motherboard coupled to an i5 CPU with 8GB RAM is my starter config. Thinking of 3rd gen Intel i5 3570 ( 3.4G 6MB ) Ivy bridge .. What would be a good match of motherboard and graphics card ? ASUS Radeon HD 7770 is my thought for Graphics .... not sure about a matched MB though poss P8Z68 ?? I'll also put in an SSD for the OS and maybe 2 x SATA in a Striped RAID config for data & apps, or maybe I won't need that with the SSD. Quote
Osprey Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 an additional Q ... as i5 3570 has on board HD 400 graphics ... do I need a separate graphics card ? Quote
Synapse Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 I'd try the onboard video, it may well be ok, your CPU does a large proportion of the video editing work. You have the option to upgrade later. I was looking at your board choice, according to Asus only the Pro is listed as taking your choice of i5 CPU. Did you have a specific board in mind? Quote
Osprey Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 After looking at some reviews and realising that I need the Z77 chipset... it seems the ASUS P8Z77-V Pro would be a better choice ... and match the i5 3570 CPU. Ivy Bridge. If I did get a Graphics card what would be a suitable match ... not interested in gaming, but do want good HD video capability. The 2 I have found seem well used are Radeon HD 7770 or nVidia GTX56o Ti be interested in your view Quote
Synapse Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 I'd go for the nVidia, because I have had good experiences with them, and also because they incorporate CUDA. Quote
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