problems with re-set calendar, (pleh ! ! !)

October 15, 2008

Just bought this clunker laptop so my mom can run her nutrition program on

it. THe program links to the calendar, and keeps track of what you eat every

day.

Unfortunately, the calendar for the system is messed up, and I don't have

any discs or anything to fix it. I reset the date, then the next time I turn

on the computer, it's a different time, and day.

My guess is I have to download something (the clunker only has CD

capability, no internet, no usb).

Can anyone help me? I'd like to get this mailed out to my mom soon.

Many many thanks, Kathy

October 15, 2008

Re: problems with re-set calendar, (pleh ! ! !)

Its probably ready for a new (replacement) CMOS battery, which - amongst

other things - maintains the clock settings when the computer is turned off

from the mains power.

See the following 'How to' for a typical description/tutorial.

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000239.htm

Mart

"kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:E5672ACE-FAF5-4320-9974-EF6C5307A058@microsoft.com...

> Just bought this clunker laptop so my mom can run her nutrition program on

> it. THe program links to the calendar, and keeps track of what you eat

> every

> day.

>

> Unfortunately, the calendar for the system is messed up, and I don't have

> any discs or anything to fix it. I reset the date, then the next time I

> turn

> on the computer, it's a different time, and day.

>

> My guess is I have to download something (the clunker only has CD

> capability, no internet, no usb).

>

> Can anyone help me? I'd like to get this mailed out to my mom soon.

>

> Many many thanks, Kathy

October 15, 2008

Re: problems with re-set calendar, (pleh ! ! !)

"kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:E5672ACE-FAF5-4320-9974-EF6C5307A058@microsoft.com...

> Just bought this clunker laptop so my mom can run her nutrition program on

> it. THe program links to the calendar, and keeps track of what you eat

every

> day.

>

> Unfortunately, the calendar for the system is messed up, and I don't have

> any discs or anything to fix it. I reset the date, then the next time I

turn

> on the computer, it's a different time, and day.

>

> My guess is I have to download something (the clunker only has CD

> capability, no internet, no usb).

>

> Can anyone help me? I'd like to get this mailed out to my mom soon.

>

> Many many thanks, Kathy

It looks like the laptop has a dead cmos battery.

On a desktop, it's very easy to change...

but a laptop is more difficult and you may have to take it into a shop

As a no cost workaround you could edit the autoexec.bat file

and simply add two lines:

date

time

when the machine boots up, the user will have to manually enter the date and

time

October 16, 2008

me again, forgot to include my error message

me again, forgot to include my error message

thank you, guys for the help, I really appreciate it. I'll look into the

battery thing.

I should have also included the message I get every time I turn it on.

"Calendar can't find one or more of the files it needs to run. Run the

calendar set up program again toi install the missing files. If the calendar

still doesn't open, run the internet explorer set up program to install the

missing files."

I'm leaving the laptop on for 24 hrs if I can to see if it will charge up

the little battery. Would I get a message like that if the CSMO were going

dead?

thanks again, Kathy

"philo" wrote:

>

> "kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:E5672ACE-FAF5-4320-9974-EF6C5307A058@microsoft.com...

> > Just bought this clunker laptop so my mom can run her nutrition program on

> > it. THe program links to the calendar, and keeps track of what you eat

> every

> > day.

> >

> > Unfortunately, the calendar for the system is messed up, and I don't have

> > any discs or anything to fix it. I reset the date, then the next time I

> turn

> > on the computer, it's a different time, and day.

> >

> > My guess is I have to download something (the clunker only has CD

> > capability, no internet, no usb).

> >

> > Can anyone help me? I'd like to get this mailed out to my mom soon.

> >

> > Many many thanks, Kathy

>

> It looks like the laptop has a dead cmos battery.

>

> On a desktop, it's very easy to change...

> but a laptop is more difficult and you may have to take it into a shop

>

> As a no cost workaround you could edit the autoexec.bat file

>

> and simply add two lines:

>

> date

>

> time

>

> when the machine boots up, the user will have to manually enter the date and

> time

>

October 16, 2008

Re: me again, forgot to include my error message

Re: me again, forgot to include my error message

"kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7BAF8583-FD09-487E-B10C-578C147D15D0@microsoft.com...

> thank you, guys for the help, I really appreciate it. I'll look into the

> battery thing.

>

> I should have also included the message I get every time I turn it on.

> "Calendar can't find one or more of the files it needs to run. Run the

> calendar set up program again toi install the missing files. If the

calendar

> still doesn't open, run the internet explorer set up program to install

the

> missing files."

This points to defective or damaged installation of win98.

> I'm leaving the laptop on for 24 hrs if I can to see if it will charge up

> the little battery. Would I get a message like that if the CSMO were

going

> dead?

The CMOS battery is not rechargeable. It is a disc-type battery

about the size of a nickel. Now that Lithium CMOS batteries (type

CR2032) are on the market ($5) the earlier CMOS batteries

($3) may last less than a year instead of 5 years as formerly.

--

Don Phillipson

Carlsbad Springs

(Ottawa, Canada)

October 16, 2008

calendar, defective/damaged Win98

calendar, defective/damaged Win98

If I have a defective or damaged WIn98, and I just want to fix the calendar,

can I download something onto a cd and use it to fix the calendar?

many thanks, Kathy

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:7BAF8583-FD09-487E-B10C-578C147D15D0@microsoft.com...

> > thank you, guys for the help, I really appreciate it. I'll look into the

> > battery thing.

> >

> > I should have also included the message I get every time I turn it on.

> > "Calendar can't find one or more of the files it needs to run. Run the

> > calendar set up program again toi install the missing files. If the

> calendar

> > still doesn't open, run the internet explorer set up program to install

> the

> > missing files."

>

> This points to defective or damaged installation of win98.

>

> > I'm leaving the laptop on for 24 hrs if I can to see if it will charge up

> > the little battery. Would I get a message like that if the CSMO were

> going

> > dead?

>

> The CMOS battery is not rechargeable. It is a disc-type battery

> about the size of a nickel. Now that Lithium CMOS batteries (type

> CR2032) are on the market ($5) the earlier CMOS batteries

> ($3) may last less than a year instead of 5 years as formerly.

>

> --

> Don Phillipson

> Carlsbad Springs

> (Ottawa, Canada)

>

October 16, 2008

Re: me again, forgot to include my error message

Re: me again, forgot to include my error message

"Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message

news:%23kNkDEzLJHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| "kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| news:7BAF8583-FD09-487E-B10C-578C147D15D0@microsoft.com...

| > thank you, guys for the help, I really appreciate it. I'll look into

the

| > battery thing.

| >

| > I should have also included the message I get every time I turn it on.

| > "Calendar can't find one or more of the files it needs to run. Run the

| > calendar set up program again toi install the missing files. If the

| calendar

| > still doesn't open, run the internet explorer set up program to install

| the

| > missing files."

|

| This points to defective or damaged installation of win98.

|

| > I'm leaving the laptop on for 24 hrs if I can to see if it will charge

up

| > the little battery. Would I get a message like that if the CSMO were

| going

| > dead?

|

| The CMOS battery is not rechargeable. It is a disc-type battery

| about the size of a nickel. Now that Lithium CMOS batteries (type

| CR2032) are on the market ($5) the earlier CMOS batteries

| ($3) may last less than a year instead of 5 years as formerly.

|

| --

| Don Phillipson

| Carlsbad Springs

| (Ottawa, Canada)

|

UHM, depending upon the make of the laptop it MAY have a rechargeable CMOS

battery. Though if it is as old and as DEAD as it might be [having gone

through repeated deep discharge], it may be no good.

Isn't a calendar associated with MS OutLook, or other third party program?

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.org

a Peoples' counsel

_ _

~~

October 16, 2008

Re: me again, forgot to include my error message

Re: me again, forgot to include my error message

"kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7BAF8583-FD09-487E-B10C-578C147D15D0@microsoft.com...

> thank you, guys for the help, I really appreciate it. I'll look into the

> battery thing.

>

> I should have also included the message I get every time I turn it on.

> "Calendar can't find one or more of the files it needs to run. Run the

> calendar set up program again toi install the missing files. If the

calendar

> still doesn't open, run the internet explorer set up program to install

the

> missing files."

>

> I'm leaving the laptop on for 24 hrs if I can to see if it will charge up

> the little battery. Would I get a message like that if the CSMO were

going

> dead?

>

> thanks again, Kathy

Well

I'd do what it says and try reinstalling your program.

For best results you may wan to first uninstall it and reboot.

Also, it the machine has an older version of Internet Explorer

you should probably upgrade it to IE6

October 16, 2008

Re: problems with re-set calendar, (pleh ! ! !)

"kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E5672ACE-FAF5-4320-9974-EF6C5307A058@microsoft.com...

> Just bought this clunker laptop so my mom can run her nutrition program on

> it. THe program links to the calendar, and keeps track of what you eat every

> day.

Make sure the laptop and Windows 98 meet the requirements of this program.

> Unfortunately, the calendar for the system is messed up, and I don't have

> any discs or anything to fix it.

Windows 98 has its own time and date applet, so the calendar program

to which you refer may be a legacy or third-party application.

> I reset the date, then the next time I turn

> on the computer, it's a different time, and day.

As mentioned by others, this is probably a CMOS battery issue.

Ben

October 16, 2008

how to re-install?

how to re-install?

'THank you all again! I think I"m getting an idea of my problem, just need a

little more assistance.

1) The calendar I mean is the computer's "internal" time-keeping. At the

bottom of my monitor is the time and date. I have to keep re-setting it

(every day it is incorrect, even after I;ve re-set the day before). (It's

aToshiba Satellite Pro, 430 CDT.)

2) I need the day/time keeping to work properly, I bought this thing for my

mom to run a daily n utritional program.

3) I do get that message when I boot up "Calendar can't find one or more of

the files it needs to run. Run the calendar set up program again to install

the missing files..."; as someone here suggested, I think I will try to

reinstall the program. Would that be Win 98?

4) I don't know what to download and how to just get the thing to tell the

right time and date. THis is the part I need the most help with. I'm not

sure what to download and how to fix the time/day. Or maybe I should just

reinstall the whole thing?

Many thanks, Kathy

"kraine" wrote:

> Just bought this clunker laptop so my mom can run her nutrition program on

> it. THe program links to the calendar, and keeps track of what you eat every

> day.

>

> Unfortunately, the calendar for the system is messed up, and I don't have

> any discs or anything to fix it. I reset the date, then the next time I turn

> on the computer, it's a different time, and day.

>

> My guess is I have to download something (the clunker only has CD

> capability, no internet, no usb).

>

> Can anyone help me? I'd like to get this mailed out to my mom soon.

>

> Many many thanks, Kathy

October 16, 2008

Re: how to re-install?

Re: how to re-install?

Kathy, worry about your "Calendar" program issues later (missing files etc.)

first you need to concentrate on your Windows "Clock" (bottom of the

monitor - time and date)

This clock is maintained by the CMOS battery (mentioned earlier) and you may

have to consult the User Manual to ascertain its location and exact

replacement type and details of how to replace it.

A web search, e.g. "Toshiba Satellite Pro, 430 CDT CMOS Battery" will find

plenty of hits for a replacement battery. The first I found (and not cheap)

was the CMOS (or RAM) battery at :-

http://www.duracelldirect.com/toshiba_satellite-pro-430cdt_cmos-batteries_laptop_b-426.aspx

but doesn't describe how to replace it.

You may have to look further - unless someone can come back with the

definitive method.

First 'fix' the clock and then worry about your Calendar program.

Good luck

Mart

"kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:DEF222C3-EED8-474A-9CA1-426A333DBB10@microsoft.com...

> 'THank you all again! I think I"m getting an idea of my problem, just

> need a

> little more assistance.

>

> 1) The calendar I mean is the computer's "internal" time-keeping. At the

> bottom of my monitor is the time and date. I have to keep re-setting it

> (every day it is incorrect, even after I;ve re-set the day before). (It's

> aToshiba Satellite Pro, 430 CDT.)

>

> 2) I need the day/time keeping to work properly, I bought this thing for

> my

> mom to run a daily n utritional program.

>

> 3) I do get that message when I boot up "Calendar can't find one or more

> of

> the files it needs to run. Run the calendar set up program again to

> install

> the missing files..."; as someone here suggested, I think I will try to

> reinstall the program. Would that be Win 98?

>

> 4) I don't know what to download and how to just get the thing to tell

> the

> right time and date. THis is the part I need the most help with. I'm not

> sure what to download and how to fix the time/day. Or maybe I should just

> reinstall the whole thing?

>

> Many thanks, Kathy

>

> "kraine" wrote:

>

>> Just bought this clunker laptop so my mom can run her nutrition program

>> on

>> it. THe program links to the calendar, and keeps track of what you eat

>> every

>> day.

>>

>> Unfortunately, the calendar for the system is messed up, and I don't have

>> any discs or anything to fix it. I reset the date, then the next time I

>> turn

>> on the computer, it's a different time, and day.

>>

>> My guess is I have to download something (the clunker only has CD

>> capability, no internet, no usb).

>>

>> Can anyone help me? I'd like to get this mailed out to my mom soon.

>>

>> Many many thanks, Kathy

October 16, 2008

Re: calendar, defective/damaged Win98

Re: calendar, defective/damaged Win98

"kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:0362A717-783D-4AA7-BDE9-821812D38856@microsoft.com...

> If I have a defective or damaged WIn98, and I just want to fix the

calendar,

> can I download something onto a cd and use it to fix the calendar?

We cannot tell from this single symptom (wroong date)

whether the cause is:

1. Virus or malware (software)

2. Defective Win98 system software

3. Dead CMOS battery (hardware).

Lacking a second symptom, you must attend to all or

any until the first symptom vanishes. Reformatting

and reinstalling ought to dispose of both #1 and #2

but we do not know whether you have the brand-name

system CD with (brand-specific) laptop drivers.

--

Don Phillipson

Carlsbad Springs

(Ottawa, Canada)

October 18, 2008

Re: how to re-install?

Re: how to re-install?

"kraine" <kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DEF222C3-EED8-474A-9CA1-426A333DBB10@microsoft.com...

> 'THank you all again! I think I"m getting an idea of my problem, just need a

> little more assistance.

> 1) The calendar I mean is the computer's "internal" time-keeping. At the

> bottom of my monitor is the time and date. I have to keep re-setting it

> (every day it is incorrect, even after I;ve re-set the day before). (It's

> aToshiba Satellite Pro, 430 CDT.)

> 2) I need the day/time keeping to work properly, I bought this thing for my

> mom to run a daily n utritional program.

As mentioned before, the laptop uses an internal battery, separate from

the main battery to sustain the clock when the computer is turned off.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Toshiba+Satellite+Pro+430CDT+cmos&btnG=Search

> 3) I do get that message when I boot up "Calendar can't find one or more of

> the files it needs to run. Run the calendar set up program again to install

> the missing files..."; as someone here suggested, I think I will try to

> reinstall the program. Would that be Win 98?

The program you are trying to use may be designed for different version of

Windows. Older versions of Windows used a "calendar.exe" file, but this

was eliminated with Windows 95.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/159852

> 4) I don't know what to download and how to just get the thing to tell the

> right time and date. THis is the part I need the most help with. I'm not

> sure what to download and how to fix the time/day. Or maybe I should just

> reinstall the whole thing?

I strongly suggest you check the requirements for the program you are trying

to run. The Windows 3.1 version of calender.exe seems to run fine on my

Windows 98 system, but it might be difficult to find a copy and the program

you are trying to run might even require a different version of Windows.

Ben

October 18, 2008

Re: how to re-install?

Re: how to re-install?

In message <DEF222C3-EED8-474A-9CA1-426A333DBB10@microsoft.com>, kraine

<kraine@discussions.microsoft.com> writes

>'THank you all again! I think I"m getting an idea of my problem, just need a

>little more assistance.

>

>1) The calendar I mean is the computer's "internal" time-keeping. At the

>bottom of my monitor is the time and date. I have to keep re-setting it

>(every day it is incorrect, even after I;ve re-set the day before). (It's

>aToshiba Satellite Pro, 430 CDT.)

If it shows the date as well as the time, you're probably running some

third-party software; the default is just the time, with the date

appearing as a popup/tooltip if you hover over it. I say probably as I'm

not _sure_ you can't change a setting somewhere to make Windows itself

show the date as well. (I use TClockEx for this, set to

>ddd, yyyy MMM d#|>H:m:s|zz ZZ

[yes the ">" is part of it].)

What actually keeps it going is in effect a cheap digital watch built

into the computer, with a (usually non-rechargeable but about 5 years'

life nominally, and IME they usually last a lot longer than that) cell

to power it. (Nearly always a CR2032 big coin cell on desktop machines;

I've no idea on laptops.)

What _displays_ that time is software: it reads the time from the

built-in "real time clock" (RTC) at bootup, and thenceforward maintains

the time in software until you shut down - it also writes back to the

RTC if you adjust the settings. This software is either the

functionality built into Windows (which works fine) or a third-party

add-on like TClockEx.

It seems fairly likely that your RTC is failing - probably just the

cell.

>

>2) I need the day/time keeping to work properly, I bought this thing for my

>mom to run a daily n utritional program.

Short of fixing the cell, I think your only option is to leave the

computer on all the time - though I'm not even sure that will work if it

goes into standby.

>

>3) I do get that message when I boot up "Calendar can't find one or more of

>the files it needs to run. Run the calendar set up program again to install

>the missing files..."; as someone here suggested, I think I will try to

>reinstall the program. Would that be Win 98?

I don't _think_ so - the phrase "calendar set up program" sounds to me

like you're running some third-party application. See if there's

anything in Start | Programs | Startup, or a "Properties" option if you

right-click in the clock area (or maybe left-click) which gives you a

web address; unfortunately, googling for calendar will find too many

hits. If this fails, seeing what's running - with WinTop, Process

Explorer, or at a pinch just Ctrl-Alt-Del - might lead you to the

executable that's involved with "calendar"; if you find that executable

(probably in \Windows, or \Program Files, or one of their

subdirectories) and right-click on it, its Properties tab might give you

the name of the company which wrote it and thus lead you to a website.

>

>4) I don't know what to download and how to just get the thing to tell the

>right time and date. THis is the part I need the most help with. I'm not

>sure what to download and how to fix the time/day. Or maybe I should just

>reinstall the whole thing?

>

>Many thanks, Kathy

[]

As I and others have said, there are two different things involved: the

underlying hardware that keeps the clock (and calendar) going when the

PC is off, which we hope just needs a new cell; and, whatever software

is producing that error message. Unless that is actually part of the

nutritional software itself, it's probably easiest just to remove the

offending software if you find it - the clock and calendar function are

part of Windows anyway, accessible to any software. This won't fix the

clock cell though. (_If_ it _does_ actually use a rechargeable, you

_may_ be able to bring it back to life by just leaving it on [with any

powerdown feature disabled] for from three days to a week, but I

wouldn't hold my breath; rechargeable cells aren't usually rescuable

IME.)

--

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October 20, 2008

Re: how to re-install?

Re: how to re-install?

In message <BKJpg+CZKf+IFwaQ@soft255.demon.co.uk>, "J. P. Gilliver

(John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> writes

[]

>What actually keeps it going is in effect a cheap digital watch built

>into the computer, with a (usually non-rechargeable but about 5 years'

>life nominally, and IME they usually last a lot longer than that) cell

>to power it. (Nearly always a CR2032 big coin cell on desktop machines;

>I've no idea on laptops.)

[]

P. S. - as well as keeping the main clock going, on most machines (not

some of the latest, I think) the cell also maintains certain BIOS

settings, like the parameters of the hard drive (_may_ autoconfigure

OK), clock and memory refresh settings (usually default to something

that works, but not at optimum, e. g. might make the PC run slower). In

general, and once you've proved it does need replacing (voltmeter will

usually suffice - they can get very low and still work!), it's probably

wise to do so sooner than later.

--

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