Guest jodleren Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Hello The situation: I maintain an office, where they now got a computer with Vista. There are 4 computers, all connected via lan and the idea is that all documents are shared to everyone. There are 2 computers with XP Professional, one with XP Home and now one with Vista Home Premium. Sharing works in all cases, all computers can access "my documents" on all other computer (though on Vista I renamed the Documents folder for the sake of the standard. There are 3 minor issues with the system. The XP Pro are the best working computers. 1) XP Home cannot remember passwords for logging in to other computers. Is this specific for "home"? Professional has it. Is there a fix? 2) The same goes for Vista Home Premium. When logging in to another computer, it prompts for user/passw, and with an option "Remember by password" just as XP Pro has it. The only difference is that it does not work after rebooting/starting, while in XP Pro it works next time. Is this a bug? I also found this: "You need to utillize Vista's UAC (user account control) tool. Click on the start butto, type "User Accounts", and press Enter. Click Manage network passwords on the side menu. Select 'Add' for this problem Fill out the 'Stored Credential Properties' screen and click OK." Well I found it myself also, and figured it out. But, I can fill it out, but I dont know how it relates... should it be "\\other_computer" or just "other_computer". USername "other_computer\someone" or just "someone". All were tried, but none worked. When entering another computer, it still prompts for user/passw, though I can pick the username here, the password is not working at all. Finally, it seems to forget this list anyway when rebooting :-) Yet another bug? 3) When logging in to Vista Home Premium from another computer, I need to create a dummy account. There is only one administrator on the computer, and basically that should be it (no password during startup, just working... this is needed for those .... working there). Well, I cannot login using the admin accoung with or without password. In stead, there is a dummy account (with password, forgot to try without) and that one can log in. Now they are confused that there are 2 users on one computer. Can I in anyway login using the admin account? Or make the dummy account hidden, so it is only there for remote login? WBR sonnich
Guest Malke Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Re: Remote logins using 2x XP Pro, 1x XP home, 1x Vista home premium jodleren wrote: Comments inline: > The situation: I maintain an office, where they now got a computer > with Vista. There are 4 computers, all connected via lan and the idea > is that all documents are shared to everyone. > There are 2 computers with XP Professional, one with XP Home and now > one with Vista Home Premium. > > Sharing works in all cases, all computers can access "my documents" on > all other computer (though on Vista I renamed the Documents folder for > the sake of the standard. Although this doesn't address your questions below, you really should consider having one computer or Network Appliance Storage (NAS) that hosts all the shared files and nothing else. The way you have it, unless you have a backup system you haven't mentioned, you need to back up all 4 computers separately. This almost guarantees that it won't get done. > There are 3 minor issues with the system. The XP Pro are the best > working computers. > > 1) XP Home cannot remember passwords for logging in to other > computers. Is this specific for "home"? Professional has it. Is there > a fix? > > 2) The same goes for Vista Home Premium. When logging in to another > computer, it prompts for user/passw, and with an option "Remember by > password" just as XP Pro has it. The only difference is that it does > not work after rebooting/starting, while in XP Pro it works next time. > Is this a bug? Home versions of XP and Vista do not cache passwords. This is by design. If it is important to you, upgrade to XP Pro/Vista Business. > I also found this: > "You need to utillize Vista's UAC (user account control) tool. > Click on the start butto, type "User Accounts", and press Enter. > Click Manage network passwords on the side menu. > Select 'Add' for this problem > Fill out the 'Stored Credential Properties' screen and click OK." I'm really not sure where you're seeing this. You can read about Vista's UAC in the Vista Help & Support or check out this link: User Account Control Step-by-Step Guide http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx?ppud=4 It is important for security to have UAC enabled, but it won't make your Home versions of Windows act like Pro/Business versions regarding caching passwords. > 3) When logging in to Vista Home Premium from another computer, I need > to create a dummy account. There is only one administrator on the > computer, and basically that should be it (no password during startup, > just working... this is needed for those .... working there). > Well, I cannot login using the admin accoung with or without password. > In stead, there is a dummy account (with password, forgot to try > without) and that one can log in. Now they are confused that there are > 2 users on one computer. > Can I in anyway login using the admin account? Or make the dummy > account hidden, so it is only there for remote login? You actually have not got your computers set up well in regards to user accounts. You're apparently using the built-in Administrator account in XP, some other administrative user account in XP Home (since the built-in Administrator account is only available in Safe Mode in Home), and some other administrative user account in Vista (since the built-in Administrator account is disabled by default in Vista). This gives you zero protection in an emergency if those accounts become corrupted (not an uncommon occurrence). You absolutely do not want to have only one user account in Vista or XP. You particularly don't want only one user account with administrative privileges on Vista because the built-in Administrator account (normally only used in emergencies) is disabled by default. In Vista, you should create at least three user accounts: one standard user account that you will use for your daily work and two administrative accounts for permissions and emergencies. In XP, while it is more secure to run as a Standard (Limited in Home) user, in Real Life it is often difficult because of older software expecting to run with administrative rights. You should create at least one extra user account in XP. Call it Tech or whatever. You may never need to log into it or the extra Vista user accounts, but if the day comes when you can't get into your regular accounts you'll be very glad you had the foresight to create the extra ones. If you want to go directly to the Desktop and skip the Welcome Screen with the icons of user accounts, this works for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
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