Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts

[Guest Andrew]

I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems to

start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length of this posting):

 

1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk Letter >

Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk

 

2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left

panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu, clicked

Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune Performance >

Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy

 

2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About to

disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes

 

3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left

panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my

catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click

C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the right

panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK

 

Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and Settings\*\Application

Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were

already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not

including F:\.

 

4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click

Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply > OK

 

5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.

 

Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process

searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O

operations and then stops.

 

However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,

searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager and

take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few

seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is active.

 

When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few seconds

searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task Manager,

but searchindexer.exe stays.

 

The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three

processes from Task Manager.

 

Thank you in advance.

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts

 

Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed?

 

Andrew wrote:

> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems

> to

> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly

> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length of

> this posting):

>

> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk Letter >

> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk

>

> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left

> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu,

> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune Performance

> >

> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy

>

> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About

> to

> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes

>

> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left

> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my

> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click

> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the

> right

> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK

>

> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and Settings\*\Application

> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were

> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not

> including F:\.

>

> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click

> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply >

> OK

>

> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.

>

> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process

> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O

> operations and then stops.

>

> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,

> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager

> and

> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few

> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is active.

>

> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few seconds

> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task

> Manager,

> but searchindexer.exe stays.

>

> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three

> processes from Task Manager.

>

> Thank you in advance.

[Guest Andrew]

Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts

 

Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed (according to

Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this problem?

 

In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says

Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All

Programs; then click Windows Search.

 

I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the three

search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as long as

OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing processes.

 

Thanks again.

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed?

>

> Andrew wrote:

> > I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems

> > to

> > start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly

> > appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length of

> > this posting):

> >

> > 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk Letter >

> > Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk

> >

> > 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left

> > panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu,

> > clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune Performance

> > >

> > Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy

> >

> > 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About

> > to

> > disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes

> >

> > 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left

> > panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my

> > catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click

> > C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the

> > right

> > panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK

> >

> > Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and Settings\*\Application

> > Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were

> > already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not

> > including F:\.

> >

> > 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click

> > Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply >

> > OK

> >

> > 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.

> >

> > Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process

> > searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O

> > operations and then stops.

> >

> > However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,

> > searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager

> > and

> > take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few

> > seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is active.

> >

> > When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few seconds

> > searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task

> > Manager,

> > but searchindexer.exe stays.

> >

> > The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three

> > processes from Task Manager.

> >

> > Thank you in advance.

>

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts

 

You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows Search's

options, Andrew. See Indexing section of

http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D

(applies to Windows Search 4.0)

 

Andrew wrote:

> Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed (according

> to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this problem?

>

> In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says

> Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All

> Programs; then click Windows Search.

>

> I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the three

> search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as long

> as

> OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing

> processes.

>

> Thanks again.

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed?

>>

>> Andrew wrote:

>>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems

>>> to

>>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly

>>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length

>>> of

>>> this posting):

>>>

>>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk Letter

>>> >

>>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk

>>>

>>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left

>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu,

>>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune

>>> Performance

>>> >

>>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy

>>>

>>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About

>>> to

>>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes

>>>

>>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left

>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my

>>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click

>>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the

>>> right

>>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK

>>>

>>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and

>>> Settings\*\Application

>>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were

>>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not

>>> including F:\.

>>>

>>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click

>>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply >

>>> OK

>>>

>>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.

>>>

>>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process

>>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O

>>> operations and then stops.

>>>

>>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,

>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager

>>> and

>>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few

>>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is

>>> active.

>>>

>>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few

>>> seconds

>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task

>>> Manager,

>>> but searchindexer.exe stays.

>>>

>>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three

>>> processes from Task Manager.

>>>

>>> Thank you in advance.

[Guest Andrew]

Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts

 

Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to match

what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside the

Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results pane

> select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop Search

Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search History

(checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and Search

Web (unchecked).

 

I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer froze

and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was unchecked

(nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck it,

nothing happens.

 

If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane as

above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All Locations >

Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder called

My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder?

 

I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed up

beyond repair???

 

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows Search's

> options, Andrew. See Indexing section of

> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D

> (applies to Windows Search 4.0)

>

> Andrew wrote:

> > Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed (according

> > to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this problem?

> >

> > In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says

> > Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All

> > Programs; then click Windows Search.

> >

> > I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the three

> > search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as long

> > as

> > OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing

> > processes.

> >

> > Thanks again.

> >

> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed?

> >>

> >> Andrew wrote:

> >>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems

> >>> to

> >>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly

> >>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length

> >>> of

> >>> this posting):

> >>>

> >>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk Letter

> >>> >

> >>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk

> >>>

> >>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left

> >>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu,

> >>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune

> >>> Performance

> >>> >

> >>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy

> >>>

> >>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About

> >>> to

> >>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes

> >>>

> >>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left

> >>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my

> >>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click

> >>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the

> >>> right

> >>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK

> >>>

> >>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and

> >>> Settings\*\Application

> >>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were

> >>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not

> >>> including F:\.

> >>>

> >>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click

> >>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply >

> >>> OK

> >>>

> >>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.

> >>>

> >>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process

> >>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O

> >>> operations and then stops.

> >>>

> >>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,

> >>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager

> >>> and

> >>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few

> >>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is

> >>> active.

> >>>

> >>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few

> >>> seconds

> >>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task

> >>> Manager,

> >>> but searchindexer.exe stays.

> >>>

> >>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three

> >>> processes from Task Manager.

> >>>

> >>> Thank you in advance.

>

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts

 

Try posting in this forum instead for best assistance:

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=847&SiteID=1

 

Andrew wrote:

> Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to

> match what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside

> the

> Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results

> pane

>> select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop Search

> Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search

> History

> (checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and

> Search Web (unchecked).

>

> I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer froze

> and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was unchecked

> (nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck

> it,

> nothing happens.

>

> If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane

> as

> above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All Locations

> >

> Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder

> called

> My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder?

>

> I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed up

> beyond repair???

>

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows

>> Search's

>> options, Andrew. See Indexing section of

>> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D

>> (applies to Windows Search 4.0)

>>

>> Andrew wrote:

>>> Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed

>>> (according

>>> to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this

>>> problem?

>>>

>>> In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says

>>> Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All

>>> Programs; then click Windows Search.

>>>

>>> I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the

>>> three

>>> search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as

>>> long

>>> as

>>> OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing

>>> processes.

>>>

>>> Thanks again.

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed?

>>>>

>>>> Andrew wrote:

>>>>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it

>>>>> seems

>>>>> to

>>>>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly

>>>>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length

>>>>> of

>>>>> this posting):

>>>>>

>>>>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk

>>>>> Letter

>>>>> >

>>>>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk

>>>>>

>>>>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in

>>>>> left

>>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu,

>>>>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune

>>>>> Performance

>>>>> >

>>>>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy

>>>>>

>>>>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used >

>>>>> About

>>>>> to

>>>>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes

>>>>>

>>>>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in

>>>>> left

>>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is

>>>>> my

>>>>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click

>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the

>>>>> right

>>>>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK

>>>>>

>>>>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and

>>>>> Settings\*\Application

>>>>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were

>>>>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for

>>>>> not

>>>>> including F:\.

>>>>>

>>>>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click

>>>>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply

>>>>> >

>>>>> OK

>>>>>

>>>>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.

>>>>>

>>>>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process

>>>>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O

>>>>> operations and then stops.

>>>>>

>>>>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,

>>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task

>>>>> Manager

>>>>> and

>>>>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a

>>>>> few

>>>>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is

>>>>> active.

>>>>>

>>>>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few

>>>>> seconds

>>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task

>>>>> Manager,

>>>>> but searchindexer.exe stays.

>>>>>

>>>>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these

>>>>> three

>>>>> processes from Task Manager.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thank you in advance.

[Guest Andrew]

Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts

 

Thanks, PA Bear. I will repost as you suggested. But one last question here:

Do you see any problem with simply removing Windows Search 4.0 via Control

Panel, Add/Remove? I don't really need the Indexing Service.

 

Thanks for you help.

 

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Try posting in this forum instead for best assistance:

> http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=847&SiteID=1

>

> Andrew wrote:

> > Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to

> > match what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside

> > the

> > Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results

> > pane

> >> select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop Search

> > Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search

> > History

> > (checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and

> > Search Web (unchecked).

> >

> > I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer froze

> > and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was unchecked

> > (nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck

> > it,

> > nothing happens.

> >

> > If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane

> > as

> > above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All Locations

> > >

> > Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder

> > called

> > My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder?

> >

> > I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed up

> > beyond repair???

> >

> >

> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows

> >> Search's

> >> options, Andrew. See Indexing section of

> >> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D

> >> (applies to Windows Search 4.0)

> >>

> >> Andrew wrote:

> >>> Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed

> >>> (according

> >>> to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this

> >>> problem?

> >>>

> >>> In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says

> >>> Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All

> >>> Programs; then click Windows Search.

> >>>

> >>> I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the

> >>> three

> >>> search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as

> >>> long

> >>> as

> >>> OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing

> >>> processes.

> >>>

> >>> Thanks again.

> >>>

> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed?

> >>>>

> >>>> Andrew wrote:

> >>>>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it

> >>>>> seems

> >>>>> to

> >>>>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly

> >>>>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length

> >>>>> of

> >>>>> this posting):

> >>>>>

> >>>>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk

> >>>>> Letter

> >>>>> >

> >>>>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk

> >>>>>

> >>>>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in

> >>>>> left

> >>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu,

> >>>>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune

> >>>>> Performance

> >>>>> >

> >>>>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy

> >>>>>

> >>>>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used >

> >>>>> About

> >>>>> to

> >>>>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes

> >>>>>

> >>>>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in

> >>>>> left

> >>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is

> >>>>> my

> >>>>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click

> >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the

> >>>>> right

> >>>>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and

> >>>>> Settings\*\Application

> >>>>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were

> >>>>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for

> >>>>> not

> >>>>> including F:\.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click

> >>>>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply

> >>>>> >

> >>>>> OK

> >>>>>

> >>>>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process

> >>>>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O

> >>>>> operations and then stops.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,

> >>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task

> >>>>> Manager

> >>>>> and

> >>>>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a

> >>>>> few

> >>>>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is

> >>>>> active.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few

> >>>>> seconds

> >>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task

> >>>>> Manager,

> >>>>> but searchindexer.exe stays.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these

> >>>>> three

> >>>>> processes from Task Manager.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Thank you in advance.

>

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts

 

In short: No.

 

Andrew wrote:

> Thanks, PA Bear. I will repost as you suggested. But one last question

> here:

> Do you see any problem with simply removing Windows Search 4.0 via Control

> Panel, Add/Remove? I don't really need the Indexing Service.

>

> Thanks for you help.

>

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Try posting in this forum instead for best assistance:

>> http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=847&SiteID=1

>>

>> Andrew wrote:

>>> Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to

>>> match what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside

>>> the

>>> Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results

>>> pane

>>>> select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop

>>>> Search

>>> Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search

>>> History

>>> (checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and

>>> Search Web (unchecked).

>>>

>>> I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer

>>> froze

>>> and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was

>>> unchecked

>>> (nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck

>>> it,

>>> nothing happens.

>>>

>>> If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane

>>> as

>>> above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All

>>> Locations

>>> >

>>> Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder

>>> called

>>> My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder?

>>>

>>> I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed

>>> up

>>> beyond repair???

>>>

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>

>>>> You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows

>>>> Search's

>>>> options, Andrew. See Indexing section of

>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D

>>>> (applies to Windows Search 4.0)

>>>>

>>>> Andrew wrote:

>>>>> Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed

>>>>> (according

>>>>> to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this

>>>>> problem?

>>>>>

>>>>> In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says

>>>>> Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All

>>>>> Programs; then click Windows Search.

>>>>>

>>>>> I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the

>>>>> three

>>>>> search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as

>>>>> long

>>>>> as

>>>>> OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing

>>>>> processes.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks again.

>>>>>

>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Andrew wrote:

>>>>>>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it

>>>>>>> seems

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly

>>>>>>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the

>>>>>>> length

>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>> this posting):

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk

>>>>>>> Letter

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this

>>>>>>> disk

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in

>>>>>>> left

>>>>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action

>>>>>>> menu,

>>>>>>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune

>>>>>>> Performance

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used >

>>>>>>> About

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service >

>>>>>>> Yes

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in

>>>>>>> left

>>>>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this

>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click

>>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> right

>>>>>>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and

>>>>>>> Settings\*\Application

>>>>>>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these

>>>>>>> were

>>>>>>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for

>>>>>>> not

>>>>>>> including F:\.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double

>>>>>>> click

>>>>>>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled >

>>>>>>> Apply

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> OK

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process

>>>>>>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300

>>>>>>> I/O

>>>>>>> operations and then stops.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,

>>>>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task

>>>>>>> Manager

>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a

>>>>>>> few

>>>>>>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is

>>>>>>> active.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few

>>>>>>> seconds

>>>>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task

>>>>>>> Manager,

>>>>>>> but searchindexer.exe stays.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these

>>>>>>> three

>>>>>>> processes from Task Manager.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thank you in advance.