Guest Andrew Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems to start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length of this posting): 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk Letter > Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu, clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune Performance > Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About to disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the right panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and Settings\*\Application Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not including F:\. 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply > OK 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps. Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O operations and then stops. However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes, searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager and take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is active. When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few seconds searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task Manager, but searchindexer.exe stays. The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three processes from Task Manager. Thank you in advance.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed? Andrew wrote: > I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems > to > start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length of > this posting): > > 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk Letter > > Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk > > 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left > panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu, > clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune Performance > > > Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy > > 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About > to > disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes > > 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left > panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my > catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click > C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the > right > panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK > > Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and Settings\*\Application > Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were > already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not > including F:\. > > 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click > Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply > > OK > > 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps. > > Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process > searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O > operations and then stops. > > However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes, > searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager > and > take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few > seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is active. > > When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few seconds > searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task > Manager, > but searchindexer.exe stays. > > The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three > processes from Task Manager. > > Thank you in advance.
Guest Andrew Posted October 18, 2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed (according to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this problem? In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All Programs; then click Windows Search. I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the three search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as long as OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing processes. Thanks again. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed? > > Andrew wrote: > > I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems > > to > > start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly > > appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length of > > this posting): > > > > 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk Letter > > > Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk > > > > 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left > > panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu, > > clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune Performance > > > > > Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy > > > > 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About > > to > > disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes > > > > 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left > > panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my > > catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click > > C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the > > right > > panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK > > > > Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and Settings\*\Application > > Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were > > already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not > > including F:\. > > > > 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click > > Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply > > > OK > > > > 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps. > > > > Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process > > searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O > > operations and then stops. > > > > However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes, > > searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager > > and > > take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few > > seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is active. > > > > When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few seconds > > searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task > > Manager, > > but searchindexer.exe stays. > > > > The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three > > processes from Task Manager. > > > > Thank you in advance. > >
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted October 18, 2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows Search's options, Andrew. See Indexing section of http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D (applies to Windows Search 4.0) Andrew wrote: > Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed (according > to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this problem? > > In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says > Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All > Programs; then click Windows Search. > > I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the three > search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as long > as > OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing > processes. > > Thanks again. > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > >> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed? >> >> Andrew wrote: >>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems >>> to >>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly >>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length >>> of >>> this posting): >>> >>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk Letter >>> > >>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk >>> >>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left >>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu, >>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune >>> Performance >>> > >>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy >>> >>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About >>> to >>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes >>> >>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left >>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my >>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click >>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the >>> right >>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK >>> >>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and >>> Settings\*\Application >>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were >>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not >>> including F:\. >>> >>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click >>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply > >>> OK >>> >>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps. >>> >>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process >>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O >>> operations and then stops. >>> >>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes, >>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager >>> and >>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few >>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is >>> active. >>> >>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few >>> seconds >>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task >>> Manager, >>> but searchindexer.exe stays. >>> >>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three >>> processes from Task Manager. >>> >>> Thank you in advance.
Guest Andrew Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to match what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside the Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results pane > select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop Search Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search History (checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and Search Web (unchecked). I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer froze and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was unchecked (nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck it, nothing happens. If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane as above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All Locations > Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder called My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder? I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed up beyond repair??? "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows Search's > options, Andrew. See Indexing section of > http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D > (applies to Windows Search 4.0) > > Andrew wrote: > > Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed (according > > to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this problem? > > > > In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says > > Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All > > Programs; then click Windows Search. > > > > I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the three > > search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as long > > as > > OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing > > processes. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > > > >> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed? > >> > >> Andrew wrote: > >>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it seems > >>> to > >>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly > >>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length > >>> of > >>> this posting): > >>> > >>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk Letter > >>> > > >>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk > >>> > >>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left > >>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu, > >>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune > >>> Performance > >>> > > >>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy > >>> > >>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > About > >>> to > >>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes > >>> > >>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in left > >>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is my > >>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click > >>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the > >>> right > >>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK > >>> > >>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and > >>> Settings\*\Application > >>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were > >>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for not > >>> including F:\. > >>> > >>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click > >>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply > > >>> OK > >>> > >>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps. > >>> > >>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process > >>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O > >>> operations and then stops. > >>> > >>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes, > >>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task Manager > >>> and > >>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a few > >>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is > >>> active. > >>> > >>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few > >>> seconds > >>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task > >>> Manager, > >>> but searchindexer.exe stays. > >>> > >>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these three > >>> processes from Task Manager. > >>> > >>> Thank you in advance. > >
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts Try posting in this forum instead for best assistance: http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=847&SiteID=1 Andrew wrote: > Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to > match what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside > the > Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results > pane >> select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop Search > Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search > History > (checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and > Search Web (unchecked). > > I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer froze > and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was unchecked > (nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck > it, > nothing happens. > > If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane > as > above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All Locations > > > Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder > called > My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder? > > I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed up > beyond repair??? > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > >> You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows >> Search's >> options, Andrew. See Indexing section of >> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D >> (applies to Windows Search 4.0) >> >> Andrew wrote: >>> Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed >>> (according >>> to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this >>> problem? >>> >>> In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says >>> Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All >>> Programs; then click Windows Search. >>> >>> I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the >>> three >>> search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as >>> long >>> as >>> OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing >>> processes. >>> >>> Thanks again. >>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: >>> >>>> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed? >>>> >>>> Andrew wrote: >>>>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it >>>>> seems >>>>> to >>>>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly >>>>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length >>>>> of >>>>> this posting): >>>>> >>>>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk >>>>> Letter >>>>> > >>>>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk >>>>> >>>>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in >>>>> left >>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu, >>>>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune >>>>> Performance >>>>> > >>>>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy >>>>> >>>>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > >>>>> About >>>>> to >>>>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes >>>>> >>>>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in >>>>> left >>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is >>>>> my >>>>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the >>>>> right >>>>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK >>>>> >>>>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and >>>>> Settings\*\Application >>>>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were >>>>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for >>>>> not >>>>> including F:\. >>>>> >>>>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click >>>>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply >>>>> > >>>>> OK >>>>> >>>>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps. >>>>> >>>>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process >>>>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O >>>>> operations and then stops. >>>>> >>>>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes, >>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task >>>>> Manager >>>>> and >>>>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a >>>>> few >>>>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is >>>>> active. >>>>> >>>>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few >>>>> seconds >>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task >>>>> Manager, >>>>> but searchindexer.exe stays. >>>>> >>>>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these >>>>> three >>>>> processes from Task Manager. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you in advance.
Guest Andrew Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts Thanks, PA Bear. I will repost as you suggested. But one last question here: Do you see any problem with simply removing Windows Search 4.0 via Control Panel, Add/Remove? I don't really need the Indexing Service. Thanks for you help. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > Try posting in this forum instead for best assistance: > http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=847&SiteID=1 > > Andrew wrote: > > Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to > > match what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside > > the > > Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results > > pane > >> select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop Search > > Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search > > History > > (checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and > > Search Web (unchecked). > > > > I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer froze > > and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was unchecked > > (nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck > > it, > > nothing happens. > > > > If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane > > as > > above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All Locations > > > > > Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder > > called > > My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder? > > > > I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed up > > beyond repair??? > > > > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > > > >> You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows > >> Search's > >> options, Andrew. See Indexing section of > >> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D > >> (applies to Windows Search 4.0) > >> > >> Andrew wrote: > >>> Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed > >>> (according > >>> to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this > >>> problem? > >>> > >>> In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says > >>> Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All > >>> Programs; then click Windows Search. > >>> > >>> I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the > >>> three > >>> search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as > >>> long > >>> as > >>> OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing > >>> processes. > >>> > >>> Thanks again. > >>> > >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > >>> > >>>> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed? > >>>> > >>>> Andrew wrote: > >>>>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it > >>>>> seems > >>>>> to > >>>>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly > >>>>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length > >>>>> of > >>>>> this posting): > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk > >>>>> Letter > >>>>> > > >>>>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk > >>>>> > >>>>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in > >>>>> left > >>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu, > >>>>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune > >>>>> Performance > >>>>> > > >>>>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy > >>>>> > >>>>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > > >>>>> About > >>>>> to > >>>>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes > >>>>> > >>>>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in > >>>>> left > >>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is > >>>>> my > >>>>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click > >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the > >>>>> right > >>>>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK > >>>>> > >>>>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and > >>>>> Settings\*\Application > >>>>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were > >>>>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for > >>>>> not > >>>>> including F:\. > >>>>> > >>>>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click > >>>>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply > >>>>> > > >>>>> OK > >>>>> > >>>>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps. > >>>>> > >>>>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process > >>>>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O > >>>>> operations and then stops. > >>>>> > >>>>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes, > >>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task > >>>>> Manager > >>>>> and > >>>>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a > >>>>> few > >>>>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is > >>>>> active. > >>>>> > >>>>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few > >>>>> seconds > >>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task > >>>>> Manager, > >>>>> but searchindexer.exe stays. > >>>>> > >>>>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these > >>>>> three > >>>>> processes from Task Manager. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you in advance. > >
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 Re: Disabled Indexing Service starts when OE starts In short: No. Andrew wrote: > Thanks, PA Bear. I will repost as you suggested. But one last question > here: > Do you see any problem with simply removing Windows Search 4.0 via Control > Panel, Add/Remove? I don't really need the Indexing Service. > > Thanks for you help. > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > >> Try posting in this forum instead for best assistance: >> http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=847&SiteID=1 >> >> Andrew wrote: >>> Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to >>> match what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside >>> the >>> Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results >>> pane >>>> select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop >>>> Search >>> Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search >>> History >>> (checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and >>> Search Web (unchecked). >>> >>> I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer >>> froze >>> and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was >>> unchecked >>> (nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck >>> it, >>> nothing happens. >>> >>> If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane >>> as >>> above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All >>> Locations >>> > >>> Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder >>> called >>> My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder? >>> >>> I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed >>> up >>> beyond repair??? >>> >>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: >>> >>>> You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows >>>> Search's >>>> options, Andrew. See Indexing section of >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/desktopsearch/search/options.mspx#E4D >>>> (applies to Windows Search 4.0) >>>> >>>> Andrew wrote: >>>>> Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed >>>>> (according >>>>> to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this >>>>> problem? >>>>> >>>>> In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says >>>>> Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All >>>>> Programs; then click Windows Search. >>>>> >>>>> I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the >>>>> three >>>>> search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as >>>>> long >>>>> as >>>>> OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing >>>>> processes. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again. >>>>> >>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed? >>>>>> >>>>>> Andrew wrote: >>>>>>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it >>>>>>> seems >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly >>>>>>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the >>>>>>> length >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> this posting): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk >>>>>>> Letter >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this >>>>>>> disk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in >>>>>>> left >>>>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action >>>>>>> menu, >>>>>>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune >>>>>>> Performance >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used > >>>>>>> About >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > >>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in >>>>>>> left >>>>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click >>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> right >>>>>>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and >>>>>>> Settings\*\Application >>>>>>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> including F:\. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double >>>>>>> click >>>>>>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > >>>>>>> Apply >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process >>>>>>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 >>>>>>> I/O >>>>>>> operations and then stops. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes, >>>>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task >>>>>>> Manager >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a >>>>>>> few >>>>>>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is >>>>>>> active. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few >>>>>>> seconds >>>>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task >>>>>>> Manager, >>>>>>> but searchindexer.exe stays. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these >>>>>>> three >>>>>>> processes from Task Manager. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you in advance.
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