Guest WJB Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Hi, I updated Windows XP Pro to SP3 and now none of the Windows updates (or upgrade from IE6 to IE7 either) will run successfully. All updates fail almost immediately. I was actually rebuilding my laptop and after installing WinXP Pro with SP2, I decided to first upgrade to SP3 prior to installing any other software. So my question is: How reliable is SP3 and should I bactrack and rebuild again, but stay with SP2? I have a bunch of other problems since the SP3 upgrade, one of which is posted in this group as well. Thanks
Guest JS Posted October 18, 2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Re: Windows Updates Fail After SP3 Update Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP installation (This KB article may also solve SP3 Windows Update will not work problem) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 JS http://www.pagestart.com "WJB" <WJB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:31A9EB91-7214-4EFC-9903-D1CB83A7B0C4@microsoft.com... > Hi, > > I updated Windows XP Pro to SP3 and now none of the Windows updates (or > upgrade from IE6 to IE7 either) will run successfully. All updates fail > almost immediately. I was actually rebuilding my laptop and after > installing > WinXP Pro with SP2, I decided to first upgrade to SP3 prior to installing > any > other software. So my question is: How reliable is SP3 and should I > bactrack > and rebuild again, but stay with SP2? I have a bunch of other problems > since > the SP3 upgrade, one of which is posted in this group as well. > > Thanks
Guest WJB Posted October 18, 2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Re: Windows Updates Fail After SP3 Update No, they're not. I had to re-register several DLLs to get the updates to work, but I ended up with a number of other problems (see Windows XP Themes & SP3 in this group), and also lost my Standby/Hibernate options. I eventually uninstalled SP3, got back the XP Style and themes but the repaint problem stated in that other post is still there and so are the Standby/Hibernate. I may end up rebuilding the system again!!! "JS" wrote: > Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, > from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after > you repair a Windows XP installation > (This KB article may also solve SP3 Windows Update will not work problem) > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 > > JS > http://www.pagestart.com > > > "WJB" <WJB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:31A9EB91-7214-4EFC-9903-D1CB83A7B0C4@microsoft.com... > > Hi, > > > > I updated Windows XP Pro to SP3 and now none of the Windows updates (or > > upgrade from IE6 to IE7 either) will run successfully. All updates fail > > almost immediately. I was actually rebuilding my laptop and after > > installing > > WinXP Pro with SP2, I decided to first upgrade to SP3 prior to installing > > any > > other software. So my question is: How reliable is SP3 and should I > > bactrack > > and rebuild again, but stay with SP2? I have a bunch of other problems > > since > > the SP3 upgrade, one of which is posted in this group as well. > > > > Thanks > > >
Guest Twayne Posted October 18, 2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Re: Windows Updates Fail After SP3 Update > No, they're not. I had to re-register several DLLs to get the updates > to work, but I ended up with a number of other problems (see Windows > XP Themes & SP3 in this group), and also lost my Standby/Hibernate > options. I eventually uninstalled SP3, got back the XP Style and > themes but the repaint problem stated in that other post is still > there and so are the Standby/Hibernate. I may end up rebuilding the > system again!!! > > "JS" wrote: > >> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, >> from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after >> you repair a Windows XP installation >> (This KB article may also solve SP3 Windows Update will not work >> problem) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 >> >> JS >> http://www.pagestart.com >> >> >> "WJB" <WJB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:31A9EB91-7214-4EFC-9903-D1CB83A7B0C4@microsoft.com... >>> Hi, >>> >>> I updated Windows XP Pro to SP3 and now none of the Windows updates >>> (or upgrade from IE6 to IE7 either) will run successfully. All >>> updates fail almost immediately. I was actually rebuilding my >>> laptop and after installing >>> WinXP Pro with SP2, I decided to first upgrade to SP3 prior to >>> installing any >>> other software. So my question is: How reliable is SP3 and should I >>> bactrack >>> and rebuild again, but stay with SP2? I have a bunch of other >>> problems since >>> the SP3 upgrade, one of which is posted in this group as well. >>> >>> Thanks That seems to be a fairly common complaint; I just installed SP3 (finally) yesterday and almost died from holding my breath but it turned out fine as near as I can tell so far. No problem - yet, and I *think* I imght be home free. Time will tel. Can one assume you have read the prepatory KBs at MS to do prior to installing? Were there any error messages during the install? Have you checked MS to be sure you don't have one of the brands that need special workarounds? There are at least 3 but I can't remember which ones; HP comes to mind. IMO I think rebuilding is a good idea considering the status of your machine right now. And, do a Full BACKUP so you won't have to rebuild again!! Install XP, do a backup; install SP1 or 2, do a backup. Install SP3, do a backup. It's fairly quick with nothing but the OS and then you have a way of returning to any of those states again rather quickly. Rebuild JUST the OS: Then you can install SP1 or 2, whichever you have, get the machine going, and go right for SP3* before you reload any applications or even connect to the 'net. If you must connect to the 'net to do it, the be certain your AV etc. is ALL installed and updated before you do anything else. Then go for SP3. Something I've noticed around here is that a lot of people aren't Restarting their machines between steps. They'll install SP2 and then SP3 for instance without having done a restart in between. Twice I've gone to their homes and cleaned up the machines, then made sure I did plenty of Restarts and in those two cases the install succeeded. * Also, much as I hate booting XP, I do THREE Restarts in a row so it can sort out its registry order and get everything into shape. By the 3rd Restart I'm almost always back to the original length of time the boot originally took. Then for good measure I do a Cold Boot (boot from a powered-down/up state) . My first SP3 install a few months ago failed. This time, I did the Restarts described and it worked. Might be coincidence, but ... my feeling is not, since 3 times in a row it's worked for me. Going to do my laptop tonite; it also failed to install SP3 a few months ago. I'm hopeful. Make SP installs the FIRST thing you do after a bootup. Always REstart before the install. Regards, Twayne
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted October 18, 2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Re: Windows Updates Fail After SP3 Update Then this thread is now resolved. WJB wrote: > No, they're not. I had to re-register several DLLs to get the updates to > work, but I ended up with a number of other problems...
Guest WJB Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 Re: Windows Updates Fail After SP3 Update Yes, thanks, in as much as the updates are going through. I did rebuild again and actually followed many of tips Twayne suggested and the Updates and the Style issues are resolved. I think many of the other issues may be specifically Dell-dependent. I need to research that more. Thanks to all who helped. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > Then this thread is now resolved. > > WJB wrote: > > No, they're not. I had to re-register several DLLs to get the updates to > > work, but I ended up with a number of other problems... >
Guest WJB Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 Re: Windows Updates Fail After SP3 Update Thanks, Twayne. Actually, I did rebuild and implemented several of the tips you suggested, and I may have to rebuild again, and if so I''' follow them all. The only potential addition is that I will do a more exhaustive search for updated Dell drivers between the SP1/SP2 and SP3 installation. Additional tips I have used are to install SP3 in Safe Mode, and do that prior to installing my AV/Firewall software. P.S. Do you know of any good software that can transfer my installed apps from the old drive (if I connect is as an external drive) to my new drive after it is rebuilt and SP3 installed? Thanks for your help and the many tips. "Twayne" wrote: > > No, they're not. I had to re-register several DLLs to get the updates > > to work, but I ended up with a number of other problems (see Windows > > XP Themes & SP3 in this group), and also lost my Standby/Hibernate > > options. I eventually uninstalled SP3, got back the XP Style and > > themes but the repaint problem stated in that other post is still > > there and so are the Standby/Hibernate. I may end up rebuilding the > > system again!!! > > > > "JS" wrote: > > > >> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, > >> from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after > >> you repair a Windows XP installation > >> (This KB article may also solve SP3 Windows Update will not work > >> problem) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 > >> > >> JS > >> http://www.pagestart.com > >> > >> > >> "WJB" <WJB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:31A9EB91-7214-4EFC-9903-D1CB83A7B0C4@microsoft.com... > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I updated Windows XP Pro to SP3 and now none of the Windows updates > >>> (or upgrade from IE6 to IE7 either) will run successfully. All > >>> updates fail almost immediately. I was actually rebuilding my > >>> laptop and after installing > >>> WinXP Pro with SP2, I decided to first upgrade to SP3 prior to > >>> installing any > >>> other software. So my question is: How reliable is SP3 and should I > >>> bactrack > >>> and rebuild again, but stay with SP2? I have a bunch of other > >>> problems since > >>> the SP3 upgrade, one of which is posted in this group as well. > >>> > >>> Thanks > > That seems to be a fairly common complaint; I just installed SP3 > (finally) yesterday and almost died from holding my breath but it turned > out fine as near as I can tell so far. No problem - yet, and I *think* > I imght be home free. Time will tel. > > Can one assume you have read the prepatory KBs at MS to do prior to > installing? Were there any error messages during the install? > > Have you checked MS to be sure you don't have one of the brands that > need special workarounds? There are at least 3 but I can't remember > which ones; HP comes to mind. > > IMO I think rebuilding is a good idea considering the status of your > machine right now. And, do a Full BACKUP so you won't have to rebuild > again!! Install XP, do a backup; install SP1 or 2, do a backup. > Install SP3, do a backup. It's fairly quick with nothing but the OS and > then you have a way of returning to any of those states again rather > quickly. > Rebuild JUST the OS: > > Then you can install SP1 or 2, whichever you have, get the machine > going, and go right for SP3* before you reload any applications or even > connect to the 'net. > If you must connect to the 'net to do it, the be certain your AV etc. > is ALL installed and updated before you do anything else. Then go for > SP3. > > Something I've noticed around here is that a lot of people aren't > Restarting their machines between steps. They'll install SP2 and then > SP3 for instance without having done a restart in between. Twice I've > gone to their homes and cleaned up the machines, then made sure I did > plenty of Restarts and in those two cases the install succeeded. > > > * Also, much as I hate booting XP, I do THREE Restarts in a row so it > can sort out its registry order and get everything into shape. By the > 3rd Restart I'm almost always back to the original length of time the > boot originally took. Then for good measure I do a Cold Boot (boot from > a powered-down/up state) . My first SP3 install a few months ago > failed. This time, I did the Restarts described and it worked. Might > be coincidence, but ... my feeling is not, since 3 times in a row it's > worked for me. Going to do my laptop tonite; it also failed to install > SP3 a few months ago. I'm hopeful. > Make SP installs the FIRST thing you do after a bootup. Always > REstart before the install. > > Regards, > > Twayne > > >
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