Moving from Win 2003 to Windows 2008 domain

[Guest MarcusB]

We have network with 10 windows servers and 2 windows 2003 domain

controlers. Domain is in Windows 2003 native mode.

We want to go to Windows 2008 native mode to have such services like new

DFS service etc..

What is the best and simplest way to move to Windows 2008 native mode.

We will buy new hardware for some servers but the old will remain for

some time. Our domain controlers are also DNS and DHCP servers and they

need to ramain on the same IP number.

How to start and go on with the process?

 

MarcusB

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: Moving from Win 2003 to Windows 2008 domain

 

Hello MarcusB,

 

If you have to keep the names of the DC's an inplace upgrade of the server

is the easiest way. Is the hardware sufficient for 2008?

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> We have network with 10 windows servers and 2 windows 2003 domain

> controlers. Domain is in Windows 2003 native mode.

> We want to go to Windows 2008 native mode to have such services like

> new

> DFS service etc..

> What is the best and simplest way to move to Windows 2008 native mode.

> We will buy new hardware for some servers but the old will remain for

> some time. Our domain controlers are also DNS and DHCP servers and

> they

> need to ramain on the same IP number.

> How to start and go on with the process?

> MarcusB

>

[Guest MarcusB]

Re: Moving from Win 2003 to Windows 2008 domain

 

The problem is complicated because we would like to move to the new

hardware but on place migration is very atractive. Our domain controlers

should have the same names and should have the same IP numbers , because

they are also DNS servers. Any good suggestion?

 

THe old domain controlers are running Windows 2003 server standard

eddition. The new will run Windows 2008 Enterprise Edt.

 

How to move it this situation DNS servers. We can not have longer stop

than 4 hours during the night.

 

Can we start new server, promote them to Domain controlers and chaneg IP

and name later?

 

 

 

Regards

MarcusB

 

toMeinolf Weber wrote:

> Hello MarcusB,

>

> If you have to keep the names of the DC's an inplace upgrade of the

> server is the easiest way. Is the hardware sufficient for 2008?

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

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> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>

>> We have network with 10 windows servers and 2 windows 2003 domain

>> controlers. Domain is in Windows 2003 native mode.

>> We want to go to Windows 2008 native mode to have such services like

>> new

>> DFS service etc..

>> What is the best and simplest way to move to Windows 2008 native mode.

>> We will buy new hardware for some servers but the old will remain for

>> some time. Our domain controlers are also DNS and DHCP servers and

>> they

>> need to ramain on the same IP number.

>> How to start and go on with the process?

>> MarcusB

>>

>

>

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: Moving from Win 2003 to Windows 2008 domain

 

Hello MarcusB,

 

If your concern is only DNS, then i would add new DC's to the domain. The

servernames are not that important, except you use the names for some app's

that are need to keep the name. If you use AD integrated zones on DNS, all

new DC/DNS servers will get the complete zone information replicated and

are full writable.

 

Personally i would add new DC's, move the FSMO roles to a 2008 DC, make all

new DC's Global catalog and DNS server. For the clients change the DNS server

ip addresses to the new ones, i assume you use DHCP, so this is easy done.

 

If you can describe the need for the same names, maybe we find another solution

without the same name. Ofcourse you can install a new server, demote one

of the old and rename it and change the ip. Then you can use the free name/ip

address for the new server and promote it then to DC.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> The problem is complicated because we would like to move to the new

> hardware but on place migration is very atractive. Our domain

> controlers should have the same names and should have the same IP

> numbers , because they are also DNS servers. Any good suggestion?

>

> THe old domain controlers are running Windows 2003 server standard

> eddition. The new will run Windows 2008 Enterprise Edt.

>

> How to move it this situation DNS servers. We can not have longer stop

> than 4 hours during the night.

>

> Can we start new server, promote them to Domain controlers and chaneg

> IP and name later?

>

> Regards

> MarcusB

> toMeinolf Weber wrote:

>

>> Hello MarcusB,

>>

>> If you have to keep the names of the DC's an inplace upgrade of the

>> server is the easiest way. Is the hardware sufficient for 2008?

>>

>> Best regards

>>

>> Meinolf Weber

>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>> confers no rights.

>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>> We have network with 10 windows servers and 2 windows 2003 domain

>>> controlers. Domain is in Windows 2003 native mode.

>>> We want to go to Windows 2008 native mode to have such services like

>>> new

>>> DFS service etc..

>>> What is the best and simplest way to move to Windows 2008 native

>>> mode.

>>> We will buy new hardware for some servers but the old will remain

>>> for

>>> some time. Our domain controlers are also DNS and DHCP servers and

>>> they

>>> need to ramain on the same IP number.

>>> How to start and go on with the process?

>>> MarcusB

[Guest MarcusB]

Re: Moving from Win 2003 to Windows 2008 domain

 

I can not change the IP number of our primary and secondary DNS which

are connected to the internet. The DNS server which will be on the

Windows 2008 domain controler need to have the same IP number as the old

one. The reason is that upper DNS server in our ISP provider have NS

records which point to our old DNS ip number.

 

Is it possible to change IP number of the domain controler without any

problem?

 

 

MarcusB

 

 

Meinolf Weber wrote:

> Hello MarcusB,

>

> If your concern is only DNS, then i would add new DC's to the domain.

> The servernames are not that important, except you use the names for

> some app's that are need to keep the name. If you use AD integrated

> zones on DNS, all new DC/DNS servers will get the complete zone

> information replicated and are full writable.

>

> Personally i would add new DC's, move the FSMO roles to a 2008 DC, make

> all new DC's Global catalog and DNS server. For the clients change the

> DNS server ip addresses to the new ones, i assume you use DHCP, so this

> is easy done.

>

> If you can describe the need for the same names, maybe we find another

> solution without the same name. Ofcourse you can install a new server,

> demote one of the old and rename it and change the ip. Then you can use

> the free name/ip address for the new server and promote it then to DC.

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>

>> The problem is complicated because we would like to move to the new

>> hardware but on place migration is very atractive. Our domain

>> controlers should have the same names and should have the same IP

>> numbers , because they are also DNS servers. Any good suggestion?

>>

>> THe old domain controlers are running Windows 2003 server standard

>> eddition. The new will run Windows 2008 Enterprise Edt.

>>

>> How to move it this situation DNS servers. We can not have longer stop

>> than 4 hours during the night.

>>

>> Can we start new server, promote them to Domain controlers and chaneg

>> IP and name later?

>>

>> Regards

>> MarcusB

>> toMeinolf Weber wrote:

>>

>>> Hello MarcusB,

>>>

>>> If you have to keep the names of the DC's an inplace upgrade of the

>>> server is the easiest way. Is the hardware sufficient for 2008?

>>>

>>> Best regards

>>>

>>> Meinolf Weber

>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>>> confers no rights.

>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>>> We have network with 10 windows servers and 2 windows 2003 domain

>>>> controlers. Domain is in Windows 2003 native mode.

>>>> We want to go to Windows 2008 native mode to have such services like

>>>> new

>>>> DFS service etc..

>>>> What is the best and simplest way to move to Windows 2008 native

>>>> mode.

>>>> We will buy new hardware for some servers but the old will remain

>>>> for

>>>> some time. Our domain controlers are also DNS and DHCP servers and

>>>> they

>>>> need to ramain on the same IP number.

>>>> How to start and go on with the process?

>>>> MarcusB

>

>

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: Moving from Win 2003 to Windows 2008 domain

 

Hello MarcusB,

 

You can change the ip of a DC without problem, make sure that it changes

the record in DNS after rebooting the server.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no rights.

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> I can not change the IP number of our primary and secondary DNS which

> are connected to the internet. The DNS server which will be on the

> Windows 2008 domain controler need to have the same IP number as the

> old one. The reason is that upper DNS server in our ISP provider have

> NS records which point to our old DNS ip number.

>

> Is it possible to change IP number of the domain controler without any

> problem?

>

> MarcusB

>

> Meinolf Weber wrote:

>

>> Hello MarcusB,

>>

>> If your concern is only DNS, then i would add new DC's to the domain.

>> The servernames are not that important, except you use the names for

>> some app's that are need to keep the name. If you use AD integrated

>> zones on DNS, all new DC/DNS servers will get the complete zone

>> information replicated and are full writable.

>>

>> Personally i would add new DC's, move the FSMO roles to a 2008 DC,

>> make all new DC's Global catalog and DNS server. For the clients

>> change the DNS server ip addresses to the new ones, i assume you use

>> DHCP, so this is easy done.

>>

>> If you can describe the need for the same names, maybe we find

>> another solution without the same name. Ofcourse you can install a

>> new server, demote one of the old and rename it and change the ip.

>> Then you can use the free name/ip address for the new server and

>> promote it then to DC.

>>

>> Best regards

>>

>> Meinolf Weber

>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>> confers no rights.

>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>> The problem is complicated because we would like to move to the new

>>> hardware but on place migration is very atractive. Our domain

>>> controlers should have the same names and should have the same IP

>>> numbers , because they are also DNS servers. Any good suggestion?

>>>

>>> THe old domain controlers are running Windows 2003 server standard

>>> eddition. The new will run Windows 2008 Enterprise Edt.

>>>

>>> How to move it this situation DNS servers. We can not have longer

>>> stop than 4 hours during the night.

>>>

>>> Can we start new server, promote them to Domain controlers and

>>> chaneg IP and name later?

>>>

>>> Regards

>>> MarcusB

>>> toMeinolf Weber wrote:

>>>> Hello MarcusB,

>>>>

>>>> If you have to keep the names of the DC's an inplace upgrade of the

>>>> server is the easiest way. Is the hardware sufficient for 2008?

>>>>

>>>> Best regards

>>>>

>>>> Meinolf Weber

>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,

>>>> and

>>>> confers no rights.

>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>>>> We have network with 10 windows servers and 2 windows 2003 domain

>>>>> controlers. Domain is in Windows 2003 native mode.

>>>>> We want to go to Windows 2008 native mode to have such services

>>>>> like

>>>>> new

>>>>> DFS service etc..

>>>>> What is the best and simplest way to move to Windows 2008 native

>>>>> mode.

>>>>> We will buy new hardware for some servers but the old will remain

>>>>> for

>>>>> some time. Our domain controlers are also DNS and DHCP servers and

>>>>> they

>>>>> need to ramain on the same IP number.

>>>>> How to start and go on with the process?

>>>>> MarcusB