Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

[Guest Michael O.]

I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing is,

but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to laboriously

change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do it

again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the

menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't

work. What can I do?

[Guest Nil]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

 

On 18 Oct 2008, =?Utf-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBPLg==?=

<MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

> I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my

> writing is, but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel.

> I have to laboriously change both the sending and return address

> using the options bar, then do it again for the next envelope.

> Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the menu bar, choosing

> Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't work.

> What can I do?

 

What does this have to do with Windows XP? If, as I assume, your

question is about your word processor (whatever it may be), you should

ask in a group about that topic. This group is about an operating

system.

[Guest Alan]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

 

Hi Michael,

 

You need to make Times New Roman the default font for Envelopes, rather than

only for the documents that you type.

 

I'm using Word 2002 -- but I'm sure that the steps are similar in Word 2000

and Word 2003 and probably similar once you find the correct ribbon to do

this in Word 2007.

 

First, click Tools | Letters and Mailings | Envelopes and Labels. This will

display the Envelopes and Labels dialog box

 

Click on the Envelopes tab to give it the focus, and then click on the

Options radio button. This brings up the Envelope Options dialog box. Click

on the Envelope Options tab to give that the focus.

 

Halfway down, you will see two radio buttons -- one for Delivery Address and

one for Return Address. Click on the Font button in the Delivery Address

section. The Envelope Address Font window displays. Select Times New Roman

and the size you wish the font to be.

 

At the bottom left, click on the Default Radio button. You'll get a message:

"Do you want to change the default address font to (Default) Times New

Roman? This change will affect all new documents based on the NORMAL

template." Click the Yes radio button.

 

If you want to change the return address to Times New Roman, when you're in

the Envelope Options dialog box, click on the Font button in the Return

Address section and follow the same steps that you used to make Times New

Roman the default for the Delivery address.

 

Unless you change it, from now on Times New Roman will be the default font

for your envelopes.

 

Alan

 

"Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:161E31B3-A5C6-4D57-B13B-42C5EDD0CB55@microsoft.com...

>I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing

>is,

> but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to

> laboriously

> change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do

> it

> again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on

> the

> menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it

> doesn't

> work. What can I do?

[Guest Michael O.]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

 

 

 

"Alan" wrote:

> Hi Michael,

>

> You need to make Times New Roman the default font for Envelopes, rather than

> only for the documents that you type.

>

> I'm using Word 2002 -- but I'm sure that the steps are similar in Word 2000

> and Word 2003 and probably similar once you find the correct ribbon to do

> this in Word 2007.

>

> First, click Tools | Letters and Mailings | Envelopes and Labels. This will

> display the Envelopes and Labels dialog box

>

> Click on the Envelopes tab to give it the focus, and then click on the

> Options radio button. This brings up the Envelope Options dialog box. Click

> on the Envelope Options tab to give that the focus.

>

> Halfway down, you will see two radio buttons -- one for Delivery Address and

> one for Return Address. Click on the Font button in the Delivery Address

> section. The Envelope Address Font window displays. Select Times New Roman

> and the size you wish the font to be.

>

> At the bottom left, click on the Default Radio button. You'll get a message:

> "Do you want to change the default address font to (Default) Times New

> Roman? This change will affect all new documents based on the NORMAL

> template." Click the Yes radio button.

>

> If you want to change the return address to Times New Roman, when you're in

> the Envelope Options dialog box, click on the Font button in the Return

> Address section and follow the same steps that you used to make Times New

> Roman the default for the Delivery address.

>

> Unless you change it, from now on Times New Roman will be the default font

> for your envelopes.

>

> Alan

>

> "Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:161E31B3-A5C6-4D57-B13B-42C5EDD0CB55@microsoft.com...

> >I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing

> >is,

> > but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to

> > laboriously

> > change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do

> > it

> > again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on

> > the

> > menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it

> > doesn't

> > work. What can I do?

>

> I've tried that many times, but it only works for the envelope I'm addressing at the time. I have to repeat it for every envelope. Clearly I have to change the "normal template" whatever that is. Is there a simple way I can just get rid of ariel which is clearly the basic font of word and make Times New Roman the font that appears when I don't express a choice?

[Guest Alan]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

 

Actually, Times New Roman is the 'normal font for Word documents, while

Arial is the 'normal' font for envelopes.

 

I'm not sure why -- if you are following the steps I've already indicated --

you are unable to set the default font for envelopes to be Times New Roman

also.

 

If you want to start with a brand new 'normal' template -- which is named

NORMAL.DOT, first close Word and do a search on your hard drive for

NORMAL.DOT. You might have to set the search to include hidden files.

 

When you find the already-existing NORMAL. DOT, rename it to NORMAL.OLD.

 

Then launch Word. A brand new NORMAL.DOT will be created.

 

Alan

 

"Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:09AE1F40-86EF-4E45-954D-1B27D69F4F56@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "Alan" wrote:

>

>> Hi Michael,

>>

>> You need to make Times New Roman the default font for Envelopes, rather

>> than

>> only for the documents that you type.

>>

>> I'm using Word 2002 -- but I'm sure that the steps are similar in Word

>> 2000

>> and Word 2003 and probably similar once you find the correct ribbon to do

>> this in Word 2007.

>>

>> First, click Tools | Letters and Mailings | Envelopes and Labels. This

>> will

>> display the Envelopes and Labels dialog box

>>

>> Click on the Envelopes tab to give it the focus, and then click on the

>> Options radio button. This brings up the Envelope Options dialog box.

>> Click

>> on the Envelope Options tab to give that the focus.

>>

>> Halfway down, you will see two radio buttons -- one for Delivery Address

>> and

>> one for Return Address. Click on the Font button in the Delivery Address

>> section. The Envelope Address Font window displays. Select Times New

>> Roman

>> and the size you wish the font to be.

>>

>> At the bottom left, click on the Default Radio button. You'll get a

>> message:

>> "Do you want to change the default address font to (Default) Times New

>> Roman? This change will affect all new documents based on the NORMAL

>> template." Click the Yes radio button.

>>

>> If you want to change the return address to Times New Roman, when you're

>> in

>> the Envelope Options dialog box, click on the Font button in the Return

>> Address section and follow the same steps that you used to make Times New

>> Roman the default for the Delivery address.

>>

>> Unless you change it, from now on Times New Roman will be the default

>> font

>> for your envelopes.

>>

>> Alan

>>

>> "Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:161E31B3-A5C6-4D57-B13B-42C5EDD0CB55@microsoft.com...

>> >I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my

>> >writing

>> >is,

>> > but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to

>> > laboriously

>> > change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then

>> > do

>> > it

>> > again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on

>> > the

>> > menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it

>> > doesn't

>> > work. What can I do?

>>

>> I've tried that many times, but it only works for the envelope I'm

>> addressing at the time. I have to repeat it for every envelope. Clearly I

>> have to change the "normal template" whatever that is. Is there a simple

>> way I can just get rid of ariel which is clearly the basic font of word

>> and make Times New Roman the font that appears when I don't express a

>> choice?

[Guest HeyBub]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

 

Alan wrote:

> Actually, Times New Roman is the 'normal font for Word documents,

> while Arial is the 'normal' font for envelopes.

>

 

Ariel (or Helvetica) is also recommended by the United States Postal

Service.

 

http://www.usps.com/businessmail101/addressing/deliveryAddress.htm

 

They say one should use a "simple type" font, but the example is Ariel.

[Guest Ken Blake, MVP]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

 

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:48:00 -0700, Michael O.

<MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing is,

> but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to laboriously

> change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do it

> again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the

> menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't

> work. What can I do?

 

 

Note that are asking a question about your word processor (without

even telling us what it is) in a Windows XP newsgroup, where it's

inappropriate. Please ask in a Word (or whatever your word processor

is) newsgroup rather than here. That's where the experts in that word

processor hang out, and you are far more likely to get the help you

need there than here.

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

[Guest Alan]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

 

I suspect that Times New Roman is also a simple enough font -- for a serif

font -- and it would probably wouldn't give the USPS any problems.

 

But you're right about Helvetica. It used to be one of the most popular

fonts in the world -- and last year it celebrated its 50th anniversary --

until Microsoft came up with Arial in 1992.

 

Here are a couple of paragraphs from a piece called "The Helvetica Hegemony"

at http://www.slate.com/id/2166887/?GT1=10034

 

"...Helvetica has weathered the transition from lead to digital type

remarkably well. Since 1985, every Apple Macintosh computer-the choice of

most graphic designers-has included Helvetica as a "resident font," meaning

that Apple licensed the typeface and embedded it in the system's software.

Microsoft, on the other hand, looked around for a cheaper alternative. In

1992, the company chose Arial, a digital Helvetica knockoff, as the default

font in its Windows software. Since then Arial has spread like a virus, much

to the dismay of graphic designers who dismiss it as a homely imposter.

 

 

 

To an untrained eye, the two typefaces are nearly indistinguishable, though

there are a few telltale differences: Helvetica's lowercase a has a tail;

Arial's doesn't. Helvetica's R has a curved leg; Arial's is straight.

Helvetica's G has a spur on the bottom right; Arial's doesn't. (Designer

Mark Simonson offers a more thorough comparison of the two typefaces here.

Think you can tell them apart? Take the quiz here.

 

 

 

In what you might read as a tacit acknowledgment of Arial's inferiority,

Microsoft chose Helvetica for its own corporate logo..."

 

 

 

Alan

 

 

 

"HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23KWDMpgMJHA.6044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Alan wrote:

>> Actually, Times New Roman is the 'normal font for Word documents,

>> while Arial is the 'normal' font for envelopes.

>>

>

> Ariel (or Helvetica) is also recommended by the United States Postal

> Service.

>

> http://www.usps.com/businessmail101/addressing/deliveryAddress.htm

>

> They say one should use a "simple type" font, but the example is Ariel.

>

[Guest EncinoMan]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

 

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:48:00 -0700, Michael O.

<MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing is,

>but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to laboriously

>change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do it

>again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the

>menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't

>work. What can I do?

 

And you bring this up here why? XP has no native ability to print

envelopes.

 

Ask elsewhere

[Guest HeyBub]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

 

Alan wrote:

> I suspect that Times New Roman is also a simple enough font -- for a

> serif font -- and it would probably wouldn't give the USPS any

> problems.

> But you're right about Helvetica. It used to be one of the most

> popular fonts in the world -- and last year it celebrated its 50th

> anniversary -- until Microsoft came up with Arial in 1992.

>

> Here are a couple of paragraphs from a piece called "The Helvetica

> Hegemony" at http://www.slate.com/id/2166887/?GT1=10034

>

> "...Helvetica has weathered the transition from lead to digital type

> remarkably well. Since 1985, every Apple Macintosh computer-the

> choice of most graphic designers-has included Helvetica as a

> "resident font," meaning that Apple licensed the typeface and

> embedded it in the system's software. Microsoft, on the other hand,

> looked around for a cheaper alternative. In 1992, the company chose

> Arial, a digital Helvetica knockoff, as the default font in its

> Windows software. Since then Arial has spread like a virus, much to

> the dismay of graphic designers who dismiss it as a homely imposter.

>

>

> To an untrained eye, the two typefaces are nearly indistinguishable,

> though there are a few telltale differences: Helvetica's lowercase a

> has a tail; Arial's doesn't. Helvetica's R has a curved leg; Arial's

> is straight. Helvetica's G has a spur on the bottom right; Arial's

> doesn't. (Designer Mark Simonson offers a more thorough comparison of

> the two typefaces here. Think you can tell them apart? Take the quiz

> here.

>

>

> In what you might read as a tacit acknowledgment of Arial's

> inferiority, Microsoft chose Helvetica for its own corporate logo..."

>

>

 

By law, a typeface cannot be copyrighted, but the NAME of the typeface can

be trademarked.

 

That's why a typeface can be identical to another but named differently.

Microsoft couldn't distribute "Helvetica" without paying a license fee to

its originators, so MS developed "MS Sans Serif" which is virtually

identical to Helvetica.

[Guest Alan]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

 

Hi HeyBub,

 

Yes, I know that a typeface cannot be copyrighted, although the name of the

typeface can be. In that respect it's similar to books and movies. TITLES of

books and movies cannot be copyrighted -- although the content of these can

be -- which is why there are many books and movies that have the same names.

 

As I posted earlier -- and which you have included in your reply -- it's

Arial that is considered a 'knockoff' of Helvetica, rather than MS Sans

Serif.

 

Please see http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html and

http://www.ms-studio.com/articles.html#Otherarials for more information

about this.

 

Alan

 

"HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Alan wrote:

>> I suspect that Times New Roman is also a simple enough font -- for a

>> serif font -- and it would probably wouldn't give the USPS any

>> problems.

>> But you're right about Helvetica. It used to be one of the most

>> popular fonts in the world -- and last year it celebrated its 50th

>> anniversary -- until Microsoft came up with Arial in 1992.

>>

>> Here are a couple of paragraphs from a piece called "The Helvetica

>> Hegemony" at http://www.slate.com/id/2166887/?GT1=10034

>>

>> "...Helvetica has weathered the transition from lead to digital type

>> remarkably well. Since 1985, every Apple Macintosh computer-the

>> choice of most graphic designers-has included Helvetica as a

>> "resident font," meaning that Apple licensed the typeface and

>> embedded it in the system's software. Microsoft, on the other hand,

>> looked around for a cheaper alternative. In 1992, the company chose

>> Arial, a digital Helvetica knockoff, as the default font in its

>> Windows software. Since then Arial has spread like a virus, much to

>> the dismay of graphic designers who dismiss it as a homely imposter.

>>

>>

>> To an untrained eye, the two typefaces are nearly indistinguishable,

>> though there are a few telltale differences: Helvetica's lowercase a

>> has a tail; Arial's doesn't. Helvetica's R has a curved leg; Arial's

>> is straight. Helvetica's G has a spur on the bottom right; Arial's

>> doesn't. (Designer Mark Simonson offers a more thorough comparison of

>> the two typefaces here. Think you can tell them apart? Take the quiz

>> here.

>>

>>

>> In what you might read as a tacit acknowledgment of Arial's

>> inferiority, Microsoft chose Helvetica for its own corporate logo..."

>>

>>

>

> By law, a typeface cannot be copyrighted, but the NAME of the typeface can

> be trademarked.

>

> That's why a typeface can be identical to another but named differently.

> Microsoft couldn't distribute "Helvetica" without paying a license fee to

> its originators, so MS developed "MS Sans Serif" which is virtually

> identical to Helvetica.

>