Guest Michael O. Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing is, but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to laboriously change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do it again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't work. What can I do?
Guest Nil Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman On 18 Oct 2008, =?Utf-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBPLg==?= <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: > I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my > writing is, but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. > I have to laboriously change both the sending and return address > using the options bar, then do it again for the next envelope. > Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the menu bar, choosing > Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't work. > What can I do? What does this have to do with Windows XP? If, as I assume, your question is about your word processor (whatever it may be), you should ask in a group about that topic. This group is about an operating system.
Guest Alan Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman Hi Michael, You need to make Times New Roman the default font for Envelopes, rather than only for the documents that you type. I'm using Word 2002 -- but I'm sure that the steps are similar in Word 2000 and Word 2003 and probably similar once you find the correct ribbon to do this in Word 2007. First, click Tools | Letters and Mailings | Envelopes and Labels. This will display the Envelopes and Labels dialog box Click on the Envelopes tab to give it the focus, and then click on the Options radio button. This brings up the Envelope Options dialog box. Click on the Envelope Options tab to give that the focus. Halfway down, you will see two radio buttons -- one for Delivery Address and one for Return Address. Click on the Font button in the Delivery Address section. The Envelope Address Font window displays. Select Times New Roman and the size you wish the font to be. At the bottom left, click on the Default Radio button. You'll get a message: "Do you want to change the default address font to (Default) Times New Roman? This change will affect all new documents based on the NORMAL template." Click the Yes radio button. If you want to change the return address to Times New Roman, when you're in the Envelope Options dialog box, click on the Font button in the Return Address section and follow the same steps that you used to make Times New Roman the default for the Delivery address. Unless you change it, from now on Times New Roman will be the default font for your envelopes. Alan "Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:161E31B3-A5C6-4D57-B13B-42C5EDD0CB55@microsoft.com... >I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing >is, > but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to > laboriously > change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do > it > again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on > the > menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it > doesn't > work. What can I do?
Guest Michael O. Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman "Alan" wrote: > Hi Michael, > > You need to make Times New Roman the default font for Envelopes, rather than > only for the documents that you type. > > I'm using Word 2002 -- but I'm sure that the steps are similar in Word 2000 > and Word 2003 and probably similar once you find the correct ribbon to do > this in Word 2007. > > First, click Tools | Letters and Mailings | Envelopes and Labels. This will > display the Envelopes and Labels dialog box > > Click on the Envelopes tab to give it the focus, and then click on the > Options radio button. This brings up the Envelope Options dialog box. Click > on the Envelope Options tab to give that the focus. > > Halfway down, you will see two radio buttons -- one for Delivery Address and > one for Return Address. Click on the Font button in the Delivery Address > section. The Envelope Address Font window displays. Select Times New Roman > and the size you wish the font to be. > > At the bottom left, click on the Default Radio button. You'll get a message: > "Do you want to change the default address font to (Default) Times New > Roman? This change will affect all new documents based on the NORMAL > template." Click the Yes radio button. > > If you want to change the return address to Times New Roman, when you're in > the Envelope Options dialog box, click on the Font button in the Return > Address section and follow the same steps that you used to make Times New > Roman the default for the Delivery address. > > Unless you change it, from now on Times New Roman will be the default font > for your envelopes. > > Alan > > "Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:161E31B3-A5C6-4D57-B13B-42C5EDD0CB55@microsoft.com... > >I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing > >is, > > but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to > > laboriously > > change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do > > it > > again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on > > the > > menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it > > doesn't > > work. What can I do? > > I've tried that many times, but it only works for the envelope I'm addressing at the time. I have to repeat it for every envelope. Clearly I have to change the "normal template" whatever that is. Is there a simple way I can just get rid of ariel which is clearly the basic font of word and make Times New Roman the font that appears when I don't express a choice?
Guest Alan Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman Actually, Times New Roman is the 'normal font for Word documents, while Arial is the 'normal' font for envelopes. I'm not sure why -- if you are following the steps I've already indicated -- you are unable to set the default font for envelopes to be Times New Roman also. If you want to start with a brand new 'normal' template -- which is named NORMAL.DOT, first close Word and do a search on your hard drive for NORMAL.DOT. You might have to set the search to include hidden files. When you find the already-existing NORMAL. DOT, rename it to NORMAL.OLD. Then launch Word. A brand new NORMAL.DOT will be created. Alan "Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:09AE1F40-86EF-4E45-954D-1B27D69F4F56@microsoft.com... > > > "Alan" wrote: > >> Hi Michael, >> >> You need to make Times New Roman the default font for Envelopes, rather >> than >> only for the documents that you type. >> >> I'm using Word 2002 -- but I'm sure that the steps are similar in Word >> 2000 >> and Word 2003 and probably similar once you find the correct ribbon to do >> this in Word 2007. >> >> First, click Tools | Letters and Mailings | Envelopes and Labels. This >> will >> display the Envelopes and Labels dialog box >> >> Click on the Envelopes tab to give it the focus, and then click on the >> Options radio button. This brings up the Envelope Options dialog box. >> Click >> on the Envelope Options tab to give that the focus. >> >> Halfway down, you will see two radio buttons -- one for Delivery Address >> and >> one for Return Address. Click on the Font button in the Delivery Address >> section. The Envelope Address Font window displays. Select Times New >> Roman >> and the size you wish the font to be. >> >> At the bottom left, click on the Default Radio button. You'll get a >> message: >> "Do you want to change the default address font to (Default) Times New >> Roman? This change will affect all new documents based on the NORMAL >> template." Click the Yes radio button. >> >> If you want to change the return address to Times New Roman, when you're >> in >> the Envelope Options dialog box, click on the Font button in the Return >> Address section and follow the same steps that you used to make Times New >> Roman the default for the Delivery address. >> >> Unless you change it, from now on Times New Roman will be the default >> font >> for your envelopes. >> >> Alan >> >> "Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:161E31B3-A5C6-4D57-B13B-42C5EDD0CB55@microsoft.com... >> >I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my >> >writing >> >is, >> > but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to >> > laboriously >> > change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then >> > do >> > it >> > again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on >> > the >> > menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it >> > doesn't >> > work. What can I do? >> >> I've tried that many times, but it only works for the envelope I'm >> addressing at the time. I have to repeat it for every envelope. Clearly I >> have to change the "normal template" whatever that is. Is there a simple >> way I can just get rid of ariel which is clearly the basic font of word >> and make Times New Roman the font that appears when I don't express a >> choice?
Guest HeyBub Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman Alan wrote: > Actually, Times New Roman is the 'normal font for Word documents, > while Arial is the 'normal' font for envelopes. > Ariel (or Helvetica) is also recommended by the United States Postal Service. http://www.usps.com/businessmail101/addressing/deliveryAddress.htm They say one should use a "simple type" font, but the example is Ariel.
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:48:00 -0700, Michael O. <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing is, > but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to laboriously > change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do it > again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the > menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't > work. What can I do? Note that are asking a question about your word processor (without even telling us what it is) in a Windows XP newsgroup, where it's inappropriate. Please ask in a Word (or whatever your word processor is) newsgroup rather than here. That's where the experts in that word processor hang out, and you are far more likely to get the help you need there than here. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Alan Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman I suspect that Times New Roman is also a simple enough font -- for a serif font -- and it would probably wouldn't give the USPS any problems. But you're right about Helvetica. It used to be one of the most popular fonts in the world -- and last year it celebrated its 50th anniversary -- until Microsoft came up with Arial in 1992. Here are a couple of paragraphs from a piece called "The Helvetica Hegemony" at http://www.slate.com/id/2166887/?GT1=10034 "...Helvetica has weathered the transition from lead to digital type remarkably well. Since 1985, every Apple Macintosh computer-the choice of most graphic designers-has included Helvetica as a "resident font," meaning that Apple licensed the typeface and embedded it in the system's software. Microsoft, on the other hand, looked around for a cheaper alternative. In 1992, the company chose Arial, a digital Helvetica knockoff, as the default font in its Windows software. Since then Arial has spread like a virus, much to the dismay of graphic designers who dismiss it as a homely imposter. To an untrained eye, the two typefaces are nearly indistinguishable, though there are a few telltale differences: Helvetica's lowercase a has a tail; Arial's doesn't. Helvetica's R has a curved leg; Arial's is straight. Helvetica's G has a spur on the bottom right; Arial's doesn't. (Designer Mark Simonson offers a more thorough comparison of the two typefaces here. Think you can tell them apart? Take the quiz here. In what you might read as a tacit acknowledgment of Arial's inferiority, Microsoft chose Helvetica for its own corporate logo..." Alan "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23KWDMpgMJHA.6044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Alan wrote: >> Actually, Times New Roman is the 'normal font for Word documents, >> while Arial is the 'normal' font for envelopes. >> > > Ariel (or Helvetica) is also recommended by the United States Postal > Service. > > http://www.usps.com/businessmail101/addressing/deliveryAddress.htm > > They say one should use a "simple type" font, but the example is Ariel. >
Guest EncinoMan Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:48:00 -0700, Michael O. <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing is, >but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to laboriously >change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do it >again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the >menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't >work. What can I do? And you bring this up here why? XP has no native ability to print envelopes. Ask elsewhere
Guest HeyBub Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman Alan wrote: > I suspect that Times New Roman is also a simple enough font -- for a > serif font -- and it would probably wouldn't give the USPS any > problems. > But you're right about Helvetica. It used to be one of the most > popular fonts in the world -- and last year it celebrated its 50th > anniversary -- until Microsoft came up with Arial in 1992. > > Here are a couple of paragraphs from a piece called "The Helvetica > Hegemony" at http://www.slate.com/id/2166887/?GT1=10034 > > "...Helvetica has weathered the transition from lead to digital type > remarkably well. Since 1985, every Apple Macintosh computer-the > choice of most graphic designers-has included Helvetica as a > "resident font," meaning that Apple licensed the typeface and > embedded it in the system's software. Microsoft, on the other hand, > looked around for a cheaper alternative. In 1992, the company chose > Arial, a digital Helvetica knockoff, as the default font in its > Windows software. Since then Arial has spread like a virus, much to > the dismay of graphic designers who dismiss it as a homely imposter. > > > To an untrained eye, the two typefaces are nearly indistinguishable, > though there are a few telltale differences: Helvetica's lowercase a > has a tail; Arial's doesn't. Helvetica's R has a curved leg; Arial's > is straight. Helvetica's G has a spur on the bottom right; Arial's > doesn't. (Designer Mark Simonson offers a more thorough comparison of > the two typefaces here. Think you can tell them apart? Take the quiz > here. > > > In what you might read as a tacit acknowledgment of Arial's > inferiority, Microsoft chose Helvetica for its own corporate logo..." > > By law, a typeface cannot be copyrighted, but the NAME of the typeface can be trademarked. That's why a typeface can be identical to another but named differently. Microsoft couldn't distribute "Helvetica" without paying a license fee to its originators, so MS developed "MS Sans Serif" which is virtually identical to Helvetica.
Guest Alan Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman Hi HeyBub, Yes, I know that a typeface cannot be copyrighted, although the name of the typeface can be. In that respect it's similar to books and movies. TITLES of books and movies cannot be copyrighted -- although the content of these can be -- which is why there are many books and movies that have the same names. As I posted earlier -- and which you have included in your reply -- it's Arial that is considered a 'knockoff' of Helvetica, rather than MS Sans Serif. Please see http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html and http://www.ms-studio.com/articles.html#Otherarials for more information about this. Alan "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ed0HbfqMJHA.5232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Alan wrote: >> I suspect that Times New Roman is also a simple enough font -- for a >> serif font -- and it would probably wouldn't give the USPS any >> problems. >> But you're right about Helvetica. It used to be one of the most >> popular fonts in the world -- and last year it celebrated its 50th >> anniversary -- until Microsoft came up with Arial in 1992. >> >> Here are a couple of paragraphs from a piece called "The Helvetica >> Hegemony" at http://www.slate.com/id/2166887/?GT1=10034 >> >> "...Helvetica has weathered the transition from lead to digital type >> remarkably well. Since 1985, every Apple Macintosh computer-the >> choice of most graphic designers-has included Helvetica as a >> "resident font," meaning that Apple licensed the typeface and >> embedded it in the system's software. Microsoft, on the other hand, >> looked around for a cheaper alternative. In 1992, the company chose >> Arial, a digital Helvetica knockoff, as the default font in its >> Windows software. Since then Arial has spread like a virus, much to >> the dismay of graphic designers who dismiss it as a homely imposter. >> >> >> To an untrained eye, the two typefaces are nearly indistinguishable, >> though there are a few telltale differences: Helvetica's lowercase a >> has a tail; Arial's doesn't. Helvetica's R has a curved leg; Arial's >> is straight. Helvetica's G has a spur on the bottom right; Arial's >> doesn't. (Designer Mark Simonson offers a more thorough comparison of >> the two typefaces here. Think you can tell them apart? Take the quiz >> here. >> >> >> In what you might read as a tacit acknowledgment of Arial's >> inferiority, Microsoft chose Helvetica for its own corporate logo..." >> >> > > By law, a typeface cannot be copyrighted, but the NAME of the typeface can > be trademarked. > > That's why a typeface can be identical to another but named differently. > Microsoft couldn't distribute "Helvetica" without paying a license fee to > its originators, so MS developed "MS Sans Serif" which is virtually > identical to Helvetica. >
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