What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

October 19, 2008

Outlook 2000 (running on Win-98) opens jpegs attached to e-mails with MS

Paint (at least it does for me). This is also the default viewer when

jpegs are opened from explorer.

MS Paint does not have the capability to reduce the view to less than

100% or otherwise to "fit to window".

What other bitmap viewing programs came with Win-9x or Office 2K Premium

that I can easily set as the default viewer that allows more flexible

scaling?

Bonus question:

Can Outlook be configured to display bitmaps (like jpeg's) in-line? I

think Outlook Express does this - can Outlook do it too?

October 19, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48FB53DD.9D4F3C19@Guy.com...

> Outlook 2000 (running on Win-98) opens jpegs attached to e-mails with MS

> Paint (at least it does for me). This is also the default viewer when

> jpegs are opened from explorer.

>

> MS Paint does not have the capability to reduce the view to less than

> 100% or otherwise to "fit to window".

>

> What other bitmap viewing programs came with Win-9x or Office 2K Premium

> that I can easily set as the default viewer that allows more flexible

> scaling?

>

> Bonus question:

>

> Can Outlook be configured to display bitmaps (like jpeg's) in-line? I

> think Outlook Express does this - can Outlook do it too?

I recommend the free viewer IRFanView

just a small download...

you can set it to be your default viewer for most any "image" formate

October 19, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

In article <eT503OgMJHA.4456@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, philo@privacy.net

says...

>

> "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48FB53DD.9D4F3C19@Guy.com...

> > Outlook 2000 (running on Win-98) opens jpegs attached to e-mails with MS

> > Paint (at least it does for me). This is also the default viewer when

> > jpegs are opened from explorer.

> >

> > MS Paint does not have the capability to reduce the view to less than

> > 100% or otherwise to "fit to window".

> >

> > What other bitmap viewing programs came with Win-9x or Office 2K Premium

> > that I can easily set as the default viewer that allows more flexible

> > scaling?

> >

> > Bonus question:

> >

> > Can Outlook be configured to display bitmaps (like jpeg's) in-line? I

> > think Outlook Express does this - can Outlook do it too?

>

> I recommend the free viewer IRFanView

>

> just a small download...

>

> you can set it to be your default viewer for most any "image" formate

>

Yep, http://www.irfanview.com/

October 19, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48FB53DD.9D4F3C19@Guy.com...

> Outlook 2000 (running on Win-98) opens jpegs attached to e-mails with MS

> Paint (at least it does for me). This is also the default viewer when

> jpegs are opened from explorer.

I have a clean install of 98 here that uses IE as the defaul for JPEG JPG

Folder options are:

Action:

open

Application used...:

"C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1\iexplore.exe" -nohome

Use DDE

DDE Message:

"file:%1",,-1,,,,,

Application:

IExplore

Topic:

WWW_OpenURL

> MS Paint does not have the capability to reduce the view to less than

> 100% or otherwise to "fit to window".

>

> What other bitmap viewing programs came with Win-9x or Office 2K Premium

> that I can easily set as the default viewer that allows more flexible

> scaling?

>

> Bonus question:

>

> Can Outlook be configured to display bitmaps (like jpeg's) in-line? I

> think Outlook Express does this - can Outlook do it too?

I don't know Outlook, but IINM you have to be "viewing in HTML" in OE.

The shortcut key in later versions is Alt-Shift-H, if you're configured to read

all messages in plain text.

October 19, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

Outlook, depending on version, installed security fixes to preclude some

activities in email. Changing the settings [not recommended, particularly in

older versions] can allow this activity. Outlook, more deeply embedded than

OE, needs careful configuration.

A program I used to like was GIMP, along with IRFanView and a few others.

Paint was just to limited to do anything of real value.

GIMP also had numerous add-ons/plugins and I thought it was better than

PhotoShop [older version compared sidebyside]...

..

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"Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message

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|

| "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48FB53DD.9D4F3C19@Guy.com...

| > Outlook 2000 (running on Win-98) opens jpegs attached to e-mails with MS

| > Paint (at least it does for me). This is also the default viewer when

| > jpegs are opened from explorer.

|

| I have a clean install of 98 here that uses IE as the defaul for JPEG JPG

|

| Folder options are:

|

| Action:

| open

|

| Application used...:

| "C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1\iexplore.exe" -nohome

|

| Use DDE

|

| DDE Message:

| "file:%1",,-1,,,,,

|

| Application:

| IExplore

|

| Topic:

| WWW_OpenURL

|

| > MS Paint does not have the capability to reduce the view to less than

| > 100% or otherwise to "fit to window".

| >

| > What other bitmap viewing programs came with Win-9x or Office 2K Premium

| > that I can easily set as the default viewer that allows more flexible

| > scaling?

| >

| > Bonus question:

| >

| > Can Outlook be configured to display bitmaps (like jpeg's) in-line? I

| > think Outlook Express does this - can Outlook do it too?

|

| I don't know Outlook, but IINM you have to be "viewing in HTML" in OE.

| The shortcut key in later versions is Alt-Shift-H, if you're configured to

read

| all messages in plain text.

|

October 20, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

OTOH, I would guess that both OE and O use the same engine (mshtml.dll)

to display html content. As far as security, so goes IE, so goes OE and O.

I always configure to read in "plain text", and really don't miss the fluff of

html. There aren't too many emails/posts that are that creative anyway ;-)

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uYhfQUiMJHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Outlook, depending on version, installed security fixes to preclude some

> activities in email. Changing the settings [not recommended, particularly in

> older versions] can allow this activity. Outlook, more deeply embedded than

> OE, needs careful configuration.

>

> A program I used to like was GIMP, along with IRFanView and a few others.

> Paint was just to limited to do anything of real value.

> GIMP also had numerous add-ons/plugins and I thought it was better than

> PhotoShop [older version compared sidebyside]...

> .

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.org

> a Peoples' counsel

> _ _

> ~~

> "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message

> news:uZmrWChMJHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> |

> | "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48FB53DD.9D4F3C19@Guy.com...

> | > Outlook 2000 (running on Win-98) opens jpegs attached to e-mails with MS

> | > Paint (at least it does for me). This is also the default viewer when

> | > jpegs are opened from explorer.

> |

> | I have a clean install of 98 here that uses IE as the defaul for JPEG JPG

> |

> | Folder options are:

> |

> | Action:

> | open

> |

> | Application used...:

> | "C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1\iexplore.exe" -nohome

> |

> | Use DDE

> |

> | DDE Message:

> | "file:%1",,-1,,,,,

> |

> | Application:

> | IExplore

> |

> | Topic:

> | WWW_OpenURL

> |

> | > MS Paint does not have the capability to reduce the view to less than

> | > 100% or otherwise to "fit to window".

> | >

> | > What other bitmap viewing programs came with Win-9x or Office 2K Premium

> | > that I can easily set as the default viewer that allows more flexible

> | > scaling?

> | >

> | > Bonus question:

> | >

> | > Can Outlook be configured to display bitmaps (like jpeg's) in-line? I

> | > think Outlook Express does this - can Outlook do it too?

> |

> | I don't know Outlook, but IINM you have to be "viewing in HTML" in OE.

> | The shortcut key in later versions is Alt-Shift-H, if you're configured to

> read

> | all messages in plain text.

> |

>

October 20, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

Ok, some of my office PC's were using something other than Paint to open

jpegs.

They were using:

----------------

Microsoft Photo Editor 3.01

Based upon HALO Desktop Imager

File name: photoed.exe

File date: July 10, 2001

File version: 20010710

File size: 760 kb

c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\PhotoEd\PhotoEd.exe

------------------

It's probably part of the full install of Office 2K premium.

The one I have is newer than this one:

http://www.megaiq.com/downloads/microphotoed.exe

But both claim to be the same version (3.01)

You can also get it here:

http://wareseeker.com/Graphic-Apps/microsoft-photo-editor-3.01.zip/440126

--------------

Microsoft Photo Editor ships with Microsoft Office 97 and the

stand-alone versions of Microsoft Word 97 and Microsoft PowerPoint 97.

Microsoft Photo Editor is installed when you perform a custom or

complete installation from the compact disc. It does not ship with the

stand-alone versions of Microsoft Excel 97, Microsoft Access 97, or as

part of the Microsoft Office 97 ValuPack.

Microsoft has replaced Photo Editor with Microsoft Office Picture

Manager, a new photo editing and cataloging program in Office 2007 and

in Office 2003.

To work around this issue in Office 2007 and in Office 2003, reinstall

Photo Editor.

-----------------

October 20, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

Photo Editor (like most image editing programs) is too big an application to

fire up each time you need to view a JPG. The Open default for JPG files

should be Irfanview - it starts quickly and consumes few resources. The

image editor can be set as the Edit option.

--

Jeff Richards

MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48FBF473.BD0A71B0@Guy.com...

> Ok, some of my office PC's were using something other than Paint to open

> jpegs.

>

> They were using:

>

> ----------------

> Microsoft Photo Editor 3.01

>

> Based upon HALO Desktop Imager

>

> File name: photoed.exe

> File date: July 10, 2001

> File version: 20010710

> File size: 760 kb

>

> c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\PhotoEd\PhotoEd.exe

> ------------------

>

> It's probably part of the full install of Office 2K premium.

>

> The one I have is newer than this one:

>

> http://www.megaiq.com/downloads/microphotoed.exe

>

> But both claim to be the same version (3.01)

>

> You can also get it here:

>

> http://wareseeker.com/Graphic-Apps/microsoft-photo-editor-3.01.zip/440126

>

> --------------

> Microsoft Photo Editor ships with Microsoft Office 97 and the

> stand-alone versions of Microsoft Word 97 and Microsoft PowerPoint 97.

> Microsoft Photo Editor is installed when you perform a custom or

> complete installation from the compact disc. It does not ship with the

> stand-alone versions of Microsoft Excel 97, Microsoft Access 97, or as

> part of the Microsoft Office 97 ValuPack.

>

> Microsoft has replaced Photo Editor with Microsoft Office Picture

> Manager, a new photo editing and cataloging program in Office 2007 and

> in Office 2003.

>

> To work around this issue in Office 2007 and in Office 2003, reinstall

> Photo Editor.

> -----------------

October 20, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

Jeff Richards wrote:

> Photo Editor (like most image editing programs) is too big an

> application to fire up each time you need to view a JPG.

It's only 760 kb.

> The Open default for JPG files should be Irfanview - it starts

> quickly and consumes few resources.

I've just downloaded (but haven't run) Irfanview:

iview420_setup.exe

It must be a self-extracting archive (I can't un-zip or un-rar it).

It's 1.27 mb in size. What is the file-size of the unpacked Irfanview

executable?

October 20, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48FC034A.471E72FA@Guy.com...

> Jeff Richards wrote:

>

>> Photo Editor (like most image editing programs) is too big an

>> application to fire up each time you need to view a JPG.

>

> It's only 760 kb.

>

>> The Open default for JPG files should be Irfanview - it starts

>> quickly and consumes few resources.

>

> I've just downloaded (but haven't run) Irfanview:

>

> iview420_setup.exe

>

> It must be a self-extracting archive (I can't un-zip or un-rar it).

> It's 1.27 mb in size. What is the file-size of the unpacked Irfanview

> executable?

The executable alone for ver. 4.10 is 450 KB, don't know about ver. 4.20 but

will soon find out.

The program folder files w/o plugins is approx 1 MB, w/plugins is approx 9.30

MB.

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October 20, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

Ver. 4.20 executable = 459 KB.

Total folder = 10.3 MB w/plugins, 1.3 MB w/o.

--

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Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

October 20, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

> iview420_setup.exe

> It must be a self-extracting archive (I can't un-zip or un-rar it).

Yeah the exe is a for me unknown compressed archive... (or

have irfanview made the installer themself?)

but there is also a zip download.

at the bottom of page "Download" there is a link

"-> Other download sites (Mirrors)" and at the bottom of that page

there is the link to http://irfanview.tuwien.ac.at/iview420.zip

(Version 4.20, ZIP file, 1.15 MB)

October 20, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

It's not just the executable size - it's the additional work that something

like Photo Editor does to set the image up for editing, configure for user

preferences, install editing tools etc. If your most frequent task when you

double-click an image is to make some changes and then save it, then an

editor is suitable as a default. But if you usually just look at it and

move on then you need a viewer not an editor.

--

Jeff Richards

MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48FC034A.471E72FA@Guy.com...

> Jeff Richards wrote:

>

>> Photo Editor (like most image editing programs) is too big an

>> application to fire up each time you need to view a JPG.

>

> It's only 760 kb.

>

>> The Open default for JPG files should be Irfanview - it starts

>> quickly and consumes few resources.

>

> I've just downloaded (but haven't run) Irfanview:

>

> iview420_setup.exe

>

> It must be a self-extracting archive (I can't un-zip or un-rar it).

> It's 1.27 mb in size. What is the file-size of the unpacked Irfanview

> executable?

October 20, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

Jeff Richards wrote:

> It's not just the executable size -

I don't know what your problem is, but Photo Editor launches pretty

quickly and within 1 second of double-clicking on a jpeg (either from

explorer or from outlook attachment) I'm viewing the image.

With Photo Editor I can re-sample the image, crop it, save it to another

format, plus a bunch of other stuff that I agree not many people would

do. Maybe Irfanview can do all that stuff too (resample, crop, save to

another format). But as far as speed is concerned, Photo Editor seems

fast enough.

Maybe you're confusing Photo Editor with something like Photo Shop or

Corel Draw's Photo-paint (which takes the better part of 15 seconds to

load).

October 20, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:35:57 -0400, 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote:

>Outlook 2000 (running on Win-98) opens jpegs attached to e-mails with MS

>Paint (at least it does for me). This is also the default viewer when

>jpegs are opened from explorer.

Free = irfanview or XnView

Non-Free = acdsee v 2.43, the last fast, unbuggy version.

[]'s

October 21, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:04:26 -0400, in

microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote:

>I've just downloaded (but haven't run) Irfanview:

>

>iview420_setup.exe

>

>It must be a self-extracting archive (I can't un-zip or un-rar it).

>It's 1.27 mb in size. What is the file-size of the unpacked Irfanview

>executable?

October 21, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote in news:48FB53DD.9D4F3C19@Guy.com:

> Outlook 2000 (running on Win-98) opens jpegs attached to

> e-mails with MS Paint (at least it does for me). This is

> also the default viewer when jpegs are opened from

> explorer.

>

> MS Paint does not have the capability to reduce the view to

> less than 100% or otherwise to "fit to window".

>

> What other bitmap viewing programs came with Win-9x or

> Office 2K Premium that I can easily set as the default

> viewer that allows more flexible scaling?

>

> Bonus question:

>

> Can Outlook be configured to display bitmaps (like jpeg's)

> in-line? I think Outlook Express does this - can Outlook

> do it too?

XnView is the leader here in my book

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/pierre.g/xnview/enhome.html

October 22, 2008

Re: What MS jpeg viewers are there for win-98?

On Oct 19, 9:01 pm, 98 Guy <9...@Guy.com> wrote:

> Ok, some of my office PC's were using something other than Paint to open

> jpegs.

>

> They were using:

>

> ----------------

> Microsoft Photo Editor 3.01

>

> Based upon HALO Desktop Imager

>

> File name: photoed.exe

> File date: July 10, 2001

> File version: 20010710

> File size: 760 kb

>

> c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\PhotoEd\PhotoEd.exe

> ------------------

>

> It's probably part of the full install of Office 2K premium.

>

> The one I have is newer than this one:

>

> http://www.megaiq.com/downloads/microphotoed.exe

>

> But both claim to be the same version (3.01)

>

> You can also get it here:

>

> http://wareseeker.com/Graphic-Apps/microsoft-photo-editor-3.01.zip/44...

>

> --------------

> Microsoft Photo Editor ships with Microsoft Office 97 and the

> stand-alone versions of Microsoft Word 97 and Microsoft PowerPoint 97.

> Microsoft Photo Editor is installed when you perform a custom or

> complete installation from the compact disc. It does not ship with the

> stand-alone versions of Microsoft Excel 97, Microsoft Access 97, or as

> part of the Microsoft Office 97 ValuPack.

>

> Microsoft has replaced Photo Editor with Microsoft Office Picture

> Manager, a new photo editing and cataloging program in Office 2007 and

> in Office 2003.

>

> To work around this issue in Office 2007 and in Office 2003, reinstall

> Photo Editor.

> -----------------

MS Photo Editor will take over default image viewing if it's installed

correctly. Version 3.0.2.3 is the only version that has the image

rotator fixed to where it actually works without locking up. IIRC it

comes with OfficeXP and in general Photo Editor was always offered

with Office prior to Picture Manager. Bootleg 3.01 packages don't

install correctly as they are missing graphics filters and registry

entries for those filters which are needed.

It's just as fast as IE for viewing images, at least as far as I can

tell.

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