program lock

[Guest Kyle]

my computer has some how enabled a lock on programs to where I can't even

shut them down.

[Guest Malke]

Re: program lock

 

Kyle wrote:

> my computer has some how enabled a lock on programs to where I can't even

> shut them down.

 

I'm sorry but this isn't enough information to get focused help. Please take

a look at these links to see what details you need to include so we can

help you:

 

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 - How to Ask a Question

 

Malke

--

MS-MVP

Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

[Guest Kyle]

Re: program lock

 

ok let me fix that what I'm saying is all of a sudden my programs will not

shut down the computer has put a system lock on it I don't know how this

happened.

 

"Malke" wrote:

> Kyle wrote:

>

> > my computer has some how enabled a lock on programs to where I can't even

> > shut them down.

>

> I'm sorry but this isn't enough information to get focused help. Please take

> a look at these links to see what details you need to include so we can

> help you:

>

> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 - How to Ask a Question

>

> Malke

> --

> MS-MVP

> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

>

>

[Guest VanguardLH]

Re: program lock

 

Kyle wrote:

> ok let me fix that what I'm saying is all of a sudden my programs will not

> shut down the computer has put a system lock on it I don't know how this

> happened.

 

And what is a "system lock"?

[Guest Kyle]

Re: program lock

 

its a thing that locks up a program or your computer but in my case its a

program.

 

"VanguardLH" wrote:

> Kyle wrote:

>

> > ok let me fix that what I'm saying is all of a sudden my programs will not

> > shut down the computer has put a system lock on it I don't know how this

> > happened.

>

> And what is a "system lock"?

>

[Guest HeyBub]

Re: program lock

 

Kyle wrote:

> ok let me fix that what I'm saying is all of a sudden my programs

> will not shut down the computer has put a system lock on it I don't

> know how this happened.

>

 

Let me try to parse your paragraph (this time with periods)

 

--- begin quote

Ok, let me fix that.

What I'm saying is all of a sudden my programs will not shut down.

The computer has put a system lock on it.

I don't know how this happened.

--- end quote

 

Please answer the following question:

 

* "my programs" - What programs?

* "will not shut down" - What do you mean "shut down?" Do you mean normal

termination of an application program or a system shut down?

* "system lock" - What is a 'system lock?' What evidence do you have that

there is such a thing as a 'system lock' and that it's being applied to your

program(s)?

[Guest Malke]

Re: program lock

 

Kyle wrote:

> its a thing that locks up a program or your computer but in my case its a

> program.

>

> "VanguardLH" wrote:

>

>> Kyle wrote:

>>

>> > ok let me fix that what I'm saying is all of a sudden my programs will

>> > not shut down the computer has put a system lock on it I don't know how

>> > this happened.

>>

>> And what is a "system lock"?

>>

 

OK, Kyle. It would have been much better if you'd bothered to go to the

links I gave you so you would have provided the missing information. At

this point, you've posted twice more and still not given us anything

concrete so we can help you.

 

Here is some general troubleshooting for you to do. If you can't do it or

won't post back with details so we can help you, take the machine to a

professional computer repair shop. I don't recommend using a

BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.

 

1. The First Question Of Troubleshooting: If the problem is new, what

changed between the time things worked and the time they didn't?

 

2. The Second Question of Windows Troubleshooting: what is the malware/virus

status of the machine? If you think it is clean, what programs (and

versions) did you use to determine this?

 

Be sure the computer is clean:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

 

3. Shutdown issues are generally caused by a program and/or process that is

refusing to exit gracefully. The program and/or process can be from malware

or can be legitimate (such as an invasive antivirus like Norton or McAfee).

If you are using a Norton or McAfee product, uninstall it and replace with

a better program such as NOD32, Kasperksy, or Avast (free). The Windows

Firewall is adequate for most people. With Vista, shutdown issues can also

be caused by old/poorly written drivers so make sure all drivers are

updated. See Step B. below for general driver directions.

 

A.The first step is always to make sure your computer is virus/malware free.

 

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

 

B. Drivers - The First Law of Driver Updates is "if it ain't broke, don't

fix it". Normally if everything is working you want to leave things as they

are. The exception is that heavy-duty gamers will usually want to update

their video and sound drivers to squeeze every last bit of performance out

of the hardware to get the fastest frame rates. If you're not one of those

people, you don't need to update your drivers if there are no problems you

are trying to solve.

 

Never get drivers from Windows Update. Get them from:

 

1. The device mftr.'s website; OR

2. The motherboard mftr.'s website if hardware is onboard; OR

3. The OEM's website for your specific machine if you have an OEM computer

(HP, Dell, Sony, etc.).

 

Read the installation instructions on the website where you get the drivers.

 

To find out what hardware is in your computer:

 

1. Read any documentation you got when you bought the computer.

2. If the computer is OEM, go to the OEM's website for your specific model

machine and look at the specs (you'll be there to get the drivers anyway)

3. Download, install and run a free system inventory program like Belarc

Advisor or System Information for Windows.

 

http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html - Belarc Advisor

http://www.gtopala.com/ - System Information for Windows

 

C. If the computer is virus/malware-free, drivers are current, and no Norton

or McAfee programs are installed, then do clean-boot troubleshooting to see

which program/process is the culprit:

 

How to perform a clean boot in Vista and XP -

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/331796

 

D. If you need more information, here is an excellent shutdown

troubleshooter:

 

http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.htm

 

 

Malke

--

MS-MVP

Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!

FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

[Guest Kyle]

Re: program lock

 

I don't have any evidence the only thing that I have is the system lock and

right now its not coming up at the moment.

 

"HeyBub" wrote:

> Kyle wrote:

> > ok let me fix that what I'm saying is all of a sudden my programs

> > will not shut down the computer has put a system lock on it I don't

> > know how this happened.

> >

>

> Let me try to parse your paragraph (this time with periods)

>

> --- begin quote

> Ok, let me fix that.

> What I'm saying is all of a sudden my programs will not shut down.

> The computer has put a system lock on it.

> I don't know how this happened.

> --- end quote

>

> Please answer the following question:

>

> * "my programs" - What programs?

> * "will not shut down" - What do you mean "shut down?" Do you mean normal

> termination of an application program or a system shut down?

> * "system lock" - What is a 'system lock?' What evidence do you have that

> there is such a thing as a 'system lock' and that it's being applied to your

> program(s)?

>

>

>

[Guest Jim]

Re: program lock

 

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:20:09 -0700, Kyle

<Kyle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>its a thing that locks up a program or your computer but in my case its a

>program.

>

>"VanguardLH" wrote:

>

>> Kyle wrote:

>>

>> > ok let me fix that what I'm saying is all of a sudden my programs will not

>> > shut down the computer has put a system lock on it I don't know how this

>> > happened.

>>

>> And what is a "system lock"?

>>

 

Is this what you mean ?

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Lockdown/System-Lock.shtml

[Guest VanguardLH]

Re: program lock

 

VanguardLH wrote:

> Kyle wrote:

>

>> ok let me fix that what I'm saying is all of a sudden my programs will not

>> shut down the computer has put a system lock on it I don't know how this

>> happened.

>

> And what is a "system lock"?

 

So you have some or all programs *hanging*. Try rebooting Windows in

its safe mode and retest. If there are no hangs, something you load on

Windows startup for normal mode is causing the problem.

 

Some security products are still active in Windows' safe mode. After

rebooting into safe mode, make sure your anti-virus, anti-malware, HIPS,

or other security software is disabled or not running.

[Guest VanguardLH]

Re: program lock

 

Please use capitalization, punctuation, and structure in your posts.

Compose your posts as if writing to a manager, a teacher (who is going

to grade your post), or to someone that is important to you (like those

from who you are asking help). Sloppy doesn't work well when asking for

help. You want someone OTHER than yourself to understand it. ALWAYS

review your post before submitting it.

[Guest Nil]

Re: program lock

 

On 21 Oct 2008, =?Utf-8?B?S3lsZQ==?=

<Kyle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

> I don't have any evidence the only thing that I have is the system

> lock and right now its not coming up at the moment.

 

This is a joke, right? If it's not, you need to answer the many

questions that have been asked of you. Nobody know what you're talking

about.