VMs do not start ANY services after migration from XenServer to Hy

[Guest asklucas]

Hi Folks,

 

I'm using XenServer 4.x for almost a year now but want to migrate to Hyper-V

RTM for a number of reasons.

 

Moving the VMs (W2k3 R2 SP2) from XenServer to Hyper-V works well, different

methods are possible (SC VMM 2008 Beta P2V, Ghost Corp. Edition, other tools).

 

However, the migrated VMs boot enormously slow on Hyper-V. It takes 30

minutes to hours until the logon screen, again 30 minutes to hours until

logon completes. However, explorer.exe doesn't start. In taskmgr.exe and

compmgmt.msc I can see, that not a single service was started, not even

eventlog!

 

I haven't found any information on the web with a similar behaviour of

Windows! It seems it never happened before on Windows, that not a single

service starts!

 

The issue is reproducible using clean installs of XenServer, creating a

clean W2k3 VM and XenTools and then moving it to a clean install of Hyper-V.

 

Any clue how to troubleshoot this?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

L.

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: VMs do not start ANY services after migration from XenServer to Hy

 

Hello asklucas,

 

Better post this to:

microsoft.public.virtualserver

microsoft.public.virtualpc

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> Hi Folks,

>

> I'm using XenServer 4.x for almost a year now but want to migrate to

> Hyper-V RTM for a number of reasons.

>

> Moving the VMs (W2k3 R2 SP2) from XenServer to Hyper-V works well,

> different methods are possible (SC VMM 2008 Beta P2V, Ghost Corp.

> Edition, other tools).

>

> However, the migrated VMs boot enormously slow on Hyper-V. It takes 30

> minutes to hours until the logon screen, again 30 minutes to hours

> until logon completes. However, explorer.exe doesn't start. In

> taskmgr.exe and compmgmt.msc I can see, that not a single service was

> started, not even eventlog!

>

> I haven't found any information on the web with a similar behaviour of

> Windows! It seems it never happened before on Windows, that not a

> single service starts!

>

> The issue is reproducible using clean installs of XenServer, creating

> a clean W2k3 VM and XenTools and then moving it to a clean install of

> Hyper-V.

>

> Any clue how to troubleshoot this?

>

> Thanks in advance!

>

> L.

>

[Guest asklucas]

Re: VMs do not start ANY services after migration from XenServer t

 

Re: VMs do not start ANY services after migration from XenServer t

 

 

Dear Meinolf,

 

I believe that the general W2k3-experts can also help me, how to find the

problem that not a single service starts. Must be a kind of driver issue.

That's why I post here; I already posted in:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverhyperv/thread/384720b1-fa68-497e-bd1d-534f777fe292

 

L.

 

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello asklucas,

>

> Better post this to:

> microsoft.public.virtualserver

> microsoft.public.virtualpc

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

> no rights.

> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>

>

> > Hi Folks,

> >

> > I'm using XenServer 4.x for almost a year now but want to migrate to

> > Hyper-V RTM for a number of reasons.

> >

> > Moving the VMs (W2k3 R2 SP2) from XenServer to Hyper-V works well,

> > different methods are possible (SC VMM 2008 Beta P2V, Ghost Corp.

> > Edition, other tools).

> >

> > However, the migrated VMs boot enormously slow on Hyper-V. It takes 30

> > minutes to hours until the logon screen, again 30 minutes to hours

> > until logon completes. However, explorer.exe doesn't start. In

> > taskmgr.exe and compmgmt.msc I can see, that not a single service was

> > started, not even eventlog!

> >

> > I haven't found any information on the web with a similar behaviour of

> > Windows! It seems it never happened before on Windows, that not a

> > single service starts!

> >

> > The issue is reproducible using clean installs of XenServer, creating

> > a clean W2k3 VM and XenTools and then moving it to a clean install of

> > Hyper-V.

> >

> > Any clue how to troubleshoot this?

> >

> > Thanks in advance!

> >

> > L.

> >

>

>

>

[Guest Bill Grant]

Re: VMs do not start ANY services after migration from XenServer t

 

Re: VMs do not start ANY services after migration from XenServer t

 

Have you tried removing the Zen Tools before you do the conversion.

Leaving VMWare or Virtual Server tools installed causes all sorts of odd

problems. In most cases they cannot be removed afterwards.

 

After you get a Server 2003 vm running under Hyper-V you need to install

the Integration Components to improve performance and install drivers for

the VMBus devices. This requires SP2 for Server 2003.

 

"asklucas" <asklucas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:944DDF12-1F68-4BE1-8FF9-CC39B592148B@microsoft.com...

>

> Dear Meinolf,

>

> I believe that the general W2k3-experts can also help me, how to find the

> problem that not a single service starts. Must be a kind of driver issue.

> That's why I post here; I already posted in:

> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverhyperv/thread/384720b1-fa68-497e-bd1d-534f777fe292

>

> L.

>

> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:

>

>> Hello asklucas,

>>

>> Better post this to:

>> microsoft.public.virtualserver

>> microsoft.public.virtualpc

>>

>> Best regards

>>

>> Meinolf Weber

>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>> confers

>> no rights.

>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>

>>

>> > Hi Folks,

>> >

>> > I'm using XenServer 4.x for almost a year now but want to migrate to

>> > Hyper-V RTM for a number of reasons.

>> >

>> > Moving the VMs (W2k3 R2 SP2) from XenServer to Hyper-V works well,

>> > different methods are possible (SC VMM 2008 Beta P2V, Ghost Corp.

>> > Edition, other tools).

>> >

>> > However, the migrated VMs boot enormously slow on Hyper-V. It takes 30

>> > minutes to hours until the logon screen, again 30 minutes to hours

>> > until logon completes. However, explorer.exe doesn't start. In

>> > taskmgr.exe and compmgmt.msc I can see, that not a single service was

>> > started, not even eventlog!

>> >

>> > I haven't found any information on the web with a similar behaviour of

>> > Windows! It seems it never happened before on Windows, that not a

>> > single service starts!

>> >

>> > The issue is reproducible using clean installs of XenServer, creating

>> > a clean W2k3 VM and XenTools and then moving it to a clean install of

>> > Hyper-V.

>> >

>> > Any clue how to troubleshoot this?

>> >

>> > Thanks in advance!

>> >

>> > L.

>> >

>>

>>

>>

[Guest asklucas]

Re: VMs do not start ANY services after migration from XenServer t

 

Re: VMs do not start ANY services after migration from XenServer t

 

 

Dear Bill,

 

it doesn't make any difference, whether I remove the XenTools before or

after conversion.

 

The VMs boot fine, unless I install the Hyper-V Integration Components. Then

I get this issue where no services at all start up.

 

It seems, as if the XenTools leave some dirt in the system even after

uninstalling them, which collides with the Hyper-V Integration Components.

 

L.

 

 

"Bill Grant" wrote:

> Have you tried removing the Zen Tools before you do the conversion.

> Leaving VMWare or Virtual Server tools installed causes all sorts of odd

> problems. In most cases they cannot be removed afterwards.

>

> After you get a Server 2003 vm running under Hyper-V you need to install

> the Integration Components to improve performance and install drivers for

> the VMBus devices. This requires SP2 for Server 2003.

>

> "asklucas" <asklucas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:944DDF12-1F68-4BE1-8FF9-CC39B592148B@microsoft.com...

> >

> > Dear Meinolf,

> >

> > I believe that the general W2k3-experts can also help me, how to find the

> > problem that not a single service starts. Must be a kind of driver issue.

> > That's why I post here; I already posted in:

> > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverhyperv/thread/384720b1-fa68-497e-bd1d-534f777fe292

> >

> > L.

> >

> > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> >

> >> Hello asklucas,

> >>

> >> Better post this to:

> >> microsoft.public.virtualserver

> >> microsoft.public.virtualpc

> >>

> >> Best regards

> >>

> >> Meinolf Weber

> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> >> confers

> >> no rights.

> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> >>

> >>

> >> > Hi Folks,

> >> >

> >> > I'm using XenServer 4.x for almost a year now but want to migrate to

> >> > Hyper-V RTM for a number of reasons.

> >> >

> >> > Moving the VMs (W2k3 R2 SP2) from XenServer to Hyper-V works well,

> >> > different methods are possible (SC VMM 2008 Beta P2V, Ghost Corp.

> >> > Edition, other tools).

> >> >

> >> > However, the migrated VMs boot enormously slow on Hyper-V. It takes 30

> >> > minutes to hours until the logon screen, again 30 minutes to hours

> >> > until logon completes. However, explorer.exe doesn't start. In

> >> > taskmgr.exe and compmgmt.msc I can see, that not a single service was

> >> > started, not even eventlog!

> >> >

> >> > I haven't found any information on the web with a similar behaviour of

> >> > Windows! It seems it never happened before on Windows, that not a

> >> > single service starts!

> >> >

> >> > The issue is reproducible using clean installs of XenServer, creating

> >> > a clean W2k3 VM and XenTools and then moving it to a clean install of

> >> > Hyper-V.

> >> >

> >> > Any clue how to troubleshoot this?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks in advance!

> >> >

> >> > L.

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

>