Guest Kevin Schuman Posted October 25, 2008 Posted October 25, 2008 Ok, i'll start off with my network topology. I have a Windows 2003 Server (SP3) running a 5TB RAID5. I have 1 Windows XP workstation, 1 Windows 2000 Workstation and one Ubuntu Linux workstation. Please note I did not have this problem when I was running XP Pro on the machine that is now running 2003 Server, so I have almost no reason to believe it is a hardware problem. I am running simple file sharing (This is a home network, I had to go to 2003 to handle GPT volumes unfortunately). I have administrative accounts on all 3 windows machines with administration permissions and the same password. The Issue: When I login to one of the workstations and transfer a large file off the server it fails in the middle of the transfer saying "That network resource is no longer available". If I try again, or try to copy the file from another workstation it fails at the exact same point. (I have tested this with video files and the playback ends at the exact same frame every time, but not the same point in 3 different files, for example at 10 megs in one file and 20 megs along in another file, both of the same size) However, if I login to the server and copy from the server to the workstation it works fine. Also if I access the server share with the Ubuntu (Linux) box it copies fine with no errors. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted October 26, 2008 Posted October 26, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server Hello Kevin, Never heard about SP3 for server 2003, is it a typo? Did you use the latest NIC drivers for the server and the workstations? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > Ok, i'll start off with my network topology. > > I have a Windows 2003 Server (SP3) running a 5TB RAID5. > I have 1 Windows XP workstation, 1 Windows 2000 Workstation and one > Ubuntu > Linux workstation. > Please note I did not have this problem when I was running XP Pro on > the machine that is now running 2003 Server, so I have almost no > reason to believe it is a hardware problem. > > I am running simple file sharing (This is a home network, I had to go > to 2003 to handle GPT volumes unfortunately). > > I have administrative accounts on all 3 windows machines with > administration permissions and the same password. > > The Issue: > > When I login to one of the workstations and transfer a large file off > the server it fails in the middle of the transfer saying "That network > resource is no longer available". If I try again, or try to copy the > file from another workstation it fails at the exact same point. (I > have tested this with video files and the playback ends at the exact > same frame every time, but not the same point in 3 different files, > for example at 10 megs in one file and 20 megs along in another file, > both of the same size) > > However, if I login to the server and copy from the server to the > workstation it works fine. > > Also if I access the server share with the Ubuntu (Linux) box it > copies fine with no errors. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. >
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server >Ok, i'll start off with my network topology. > >I have a Windows 2003 Server (SP3) running a 5TB RAID5. >I have 1 Windows XP workstation, 1 Windows 2000 Workstation and one Ubuntu >Linux workstation. > >Please note I did not have this problem when I was running XP Pro on the >machine that is now running 2003 Server, so I have almost no reason to >believe it is a hardware problem. > >I am running simple file sharing (This is a home network, I had to go to >2003 to handle GPT volumes unfortunately). > >I have administrative accounts on all 3 windows machines with administration >permissions and the same password. > >The Issue: > >When I login to one of the workstations and transfer a large file off the >server it fails in the middle of the transfer saying "That network resource >is no longer available". If I try again, or try to copy the file from another >workstation it fails at the exact same point. (I have tested this with video >files and the playback ends at the exact same frame every time, but not the >same point in 3 different files, for example at 10 megs in one file and 20 >megs along in another file, both of the same size) > >However, if I login to the server and copy from the server to the >workstation it works fine. > >Also if I access the server share with the Ubuntu (Linux) box it copies fine >with no errors. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Have you installed the hotfix that turns off SNP? It's usually very troublesome. Make sure your NIC driver is current as well. - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest Kevin Schuman Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 RE: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server > I have a Windows 2003 Server (SP3) running a 5TB RAID5. SP2, fat-fingered :P As for the network drivers, all machines are using new Rosewill RTL8169 Gigabit PCI cards, With a realtek driver dated 10/15/2008. It's worth noting that I have put in different network cards and used a different switch and get the same issue.
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server >> I have a Windows 2003 Server (SP3) running a 5TB RAID5. > >SP2, fat-fingered :P > > >As for the network drivers, all machines are using new Rosewill RTL8169 >Gigabit PCI cards, With a realtek driver dated 10/15/2008. > >It's worth noting that I have put in different network cards and used a >different switch and get the same issue. Have you installed the hotfix that turns off SNP? It's usually very troublesome. Make sure your NIC driver is current as well. - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest Kevin Schuman Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server > Have you installed the hotfix that turns off SNP? It's usually very > troublesome. Make sure your NIC driver is current as well. I just installed that hotfix and the issue persists. The specific line given is "The specified network name is no longer available". Also, if I take a specific folder and share it the place in the file where it fails is different compared to the place where it fails if I am not sharing it's folder specifically.
Guest Kevin Schuman Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server WindowsServer2003-KB948496-x86-ENU.exe is the hotfix I assume you mean btw. > I just installed that hotfix and the issue persists.
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server >> Have you installed the hotfix that turns off SNP? It's usually very >> troublesome. Make sure your NIC driver is current as well. > >I just installed that hotfix and the issue persists. > >The specific line given is "The specified network name is no longer >available". > >Also, if I take a specific folder and share it the place in the file where >it fails is different compared to the place where it fails if I am not >sharing it's folder specifically. Ok, I was starting at the bottom and working up. NIC driver up to date, yes? What about event viewer, any event IDs in there? With the "The specified network name is no longer available" error, do you have any Error numbers (i.e., Error 45: The specified network name..., etc.)? Look at these KB articles as well as there is mention of "The specified network name is no longer available" in them. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948732 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923360 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908370 - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server >WindowsServer2003-KB948496-x86-ENU.exe is the hotfix I assume you mean btw. Yes. - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest Kevin Schuman Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server > Ok, I was starting at the bottom and working up. NIC driver up to > date, yes? The NIC driver is the latest one off Realtek's site. http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=4&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true WinXP (WinServer 2003) Driver 669 2008/10/15 256k The card is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166002 and has the RTL8169S chipset. > What about event viewer, any event IDs in there? I cleared the event logs on both workstation and server and no new events came up on either when it failed. > With the "The specified network name is no longer available" error, do > you have any Error numbers (i.e., Error 45: The specified network > name..., etc.)? "Cannot Copy Filename: The specified network name is no longer available" is all it says. > Look at these KB articles as well as there is mention of "The > specified network name is no longer available" in them. > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948732 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923360 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908370 The first two are symantec related, and i'm running no symantec services. As for the third Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) is not installed, and Routing and Remote Access (RRAS) is stopped under services. Thanks for the help btw. This has been giving me fits for weeks.
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server >> Ok, I was starting at the bottom and working up. NIC driver up to >> date, yes? > >The NIC driver is the latest one off Realtek's site. > >http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=4&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true > >WinXP (WinServer 2003) Driver 669 2008/10/15 256k > >The card is this: >http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166002 and has the >RTL8169S chipset. > > >> What about event viewer, any event IDs in there? > >I cleared the event logs on both workstation and server and no new events >came up on either when it failed. > > >> With the "The specified network name is no longer available" error, do >> you have any Error numbers (i.e., Error 45: The specified network >> name..., etc.)? > >"Cannot Copy Filename: The specified network name is no longer available" is >all it says. > > >> Look at these KB articles as well as there is mention of "The >> specified network name is no longer available" in them. >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948732 >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923360 >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908370 > >The first two are symantec related, and i'm running no symantec services. > >As for the third Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection >Sharing (ICS) is not installed, and Routing and Remote Access (RRAS) is >stopped under services. > > >Thanks for the help btw. This has been giving me fits for weeks. Ok. How about the NIC drivers on the workstations? Both up to date? XP on SP3 + all current WU patches already? WIndows 2000 on SP6a + all current patches already? Since you can initiate a copy from server to workstation fine but a copy initiated from workstation fails, something doesn't make any damn sense with that. What about the switch or router connecting these together? What make and model and firmware is it running? What is providing DHCP? Are the server and workstations statically assigned or DCHP assigned IPs? - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest Kevin Schuman Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server > Ok. How about the NIC drivers on the workstations? Both up to date? XP > on SP3 + all current WU patches already? WIndows 2000 on SP6a + all > current patches already? Yes, as up-to-date as I can make them. > What about the switch > or router connecting these together? What make and model and firmware > is it running? What is providing DHCP? Are the server and workstations > statically assigned or DCHP assigned IPs? Static IPs, and I have tested another switch, and a crossover cable with no change to results. I've also changed out the network cables, again no change. > Since you can initiate a copy from server to > workstation fine but a copy initiated from workstation fails, > something doesn't make any damn sense with that. Yes, the only thing that makes any sense is somehow the permissions in 2003 are failing the transfer. But I know less than nothing about that :S When I change some of the security settings in 2003 that I don't know much about and try again it fails at different paints. (When it fails it fails in the EXACT same place in a file no matter when i'm copying it, or which workstation i'm copying it with. After I change something in security settings on the file that place of failure changes) And remember Linux copies without failing (it's a dual-boot on the 2000 machine, so the same hardware that is failing in windows) Also, a transfer via FTP from the windows workstations (using a simple ftp server on the 2003 server) does not fail.
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server >> Ok. How about the NIC drivers on the workstations? Both up to date? XP >> on SP3 + all current WU patches already? WIndows 2000 on SP6a + all >> current patches already? > >Yes, as up-to-date as I can make them. > >> What about the switch >> or router connecting these together? What make and model and firmware >> is it running? What is providing DHCP? Are the server and workstations >> statically assigned or DCHP assigned IPs? > >Static IPs, and I have tested another switch, and a crossover cable with no >change to results. I've also changed out the network cables, again no change. > > >> Since you can initiate a copy from server to >> workstation fine but a copy initiated from workstation fails, >> something doesn't make any damn sense with that. > >Yes, the only thing that makes any sense is somehow the permissions in 2003 >are failing the transfer. But I know less than nothing about that :S > >When I change some of the security settings in 2003 that I don't know much >about and try again it fails at different paints. (When it fails it fails in >the EXACT same place in a file no matter when i'm copying it, or which >workstation i'm copying it with. After I change something in security >settings on the file that place of failure changes) > >And remember Linux copies without failing (it's a dual-boot on the 2000 >machine, so the same hardware that is failing in windows) > >Also, a transfer via FTP from the windows workstations (using a simple ftp >server on the 2003 server) does not fail. This sounds like something really dumb or simple is missing from the whole equation. The file cannot be corrupt because it can transfer fine via FTP and be pushed from server to workstation. Try the following, open Control Panel > Network Connections > on Local Area Connection, do a right-click and choose properties, if QoS is there, uninstall it so that only File and Printer Sharing, Client for MS Networks, and TCP/IP remain, nothing else. Reboot. Try it now and let me know how that goes. - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest Kevin Schuman Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server > This sounds like something really dumb or simple is missing from the > whole equation. The file cannot be corrupt because it can transfer > fine via FTP and be pushed from server to workstation. Try the > following, open Control Panel > Network Connections > on Local Area > Connection, do a right-click and choose properties, if QoS is there, > uninstall it so that only File and Printer Sharing, Client for MS > Networks, and TCP/IP remain, nothing else. Reboot. Try it now and let > me know how that goes. QoS wasn't there, but "Network load balancing" was there and unchecked. I removed it, rebooted and tested again and so far I have not gotten a failure. So, i'm cautiously hopeful that fixes it. :)
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Problem with network transfers in Windows 2003 Server >> This sounds like something really dumb or simple is missing from the >> whole equation. The file cannot be corrupt because it can transfer >> fine via FTP and be pushed from server to workstation. Try the >> following, open Control Panel > Network Connections > on Local Area >> Connection, do a right-click and choose properties, if QoS is there, >> uninstall it so that only File and Printer Sharing, Client for MS >> Networks, and TCP/IP remain, nothing else. Reboot. Try it now and let >> me know how that goes. > >QoS wasn't there, but "Network load balancing" was there and unchecked. > >I removed it, rebooted and tested again and so far I have not gotten a >failure. > >So, i'm cautiously hopeful that fixes it. :) Network Load Balancing will only appear on the Server and if it's not being used, you can take it off safely. Did you check on the Workstations for QoS as well? - Thee Chicago Wolf
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