Setup does not continue after XP preinstall and reboot

[Guest mugentuner]

I was trying to do a clean install of xp pro with a new HD and I let XP setup

format

the disc and copy all of its setup files e.t.c. When rebooting the pc, the

Hard drive does not boot up to continue with the install. I've checked the

boot order of the BIOS e.t.c., but it is just stuck on initial startup and

will not boot. Any ideas? I've used fdisk and checked the Hard drive and

the file structure looks to be in place and set as the active partition. Any

help appreciated.

[Guest Ken]

Re: Setup does not continue after XP preinstall and reboot

 

mugentuner wrote:

> I was trying to do a clean install of xp pro with a new HD and I let XP setup

> format

> the disc and copy all of its setup files e.t.c. When rebooting the pc, the

> Hard drive does not boot up to continue with the install. I've checked the

> boot order of the BIOS e.t.c., but it is just stuck on initial startup and

> will not boot. Any ideas? I've used fdisk and checked the Hard drive and

> the file structure looks to be in place and set as the active partition. Any

> help appreciated.

>

 

There are probably others more knowledgeable about this problem than I,

but most of the times I saw it the problem was a piece of hardware that

Windows could not deal with. If it were my computer I would remove any

unnecessary hardware (plug in cards) and try it. Once Windows is loaded

it generally is easier to deal with them.

[Guest mugentuner]

Re: Setup does not continue after XP preinstall and reboot

 

Yeah, thought about that as well, but i don't have any PCI cards, extra hd's

or even USB devices connected when trying this clean install. I guess i

could try removing a stick of memory and see if that helps. Have now gone

back to fdisk and i'm doing a low level format to see if that works, and then

try a reinstall. If not, will use a 'killdisk' on this drive to wipe it at

least twice and then proceed. The pc is just not responding to this drive

last time i checked and it just sits there with no errors or anything. Very

strange. Whats weird is i've done a clean install on this drive before when

windows got corrupted a while ago. Also, even tried setting the drive

jumpers to 'master' on a single IDE cable and still no go. Any other experts

want to chime in as well? Thanks

 

"Ken" wrote:

> mugentuner wrote:

> > I was trying to do a clean install of xp pro with a new HD and I let XP setup

> > format

> > the disc and copy all of its setup files e.t.c. When rebooting the pc, the

> > Hard drive does not boot up to continue with the install. I've checked the

> > boot order of the BIOS e.t.c., but it is just stuck on initial startup and

> > will not boot. Any ideas? I've used fdisk and checked the Hard drive and

> > the file structure looks to be in place and set as the active partition. Any

> > help appreciated.

> >

>

> There are probably others more knowledgeable about this problem than I,

> but most of the times I saw it the problem was a piece of hardware that

> Windows could not deal with. If it were my computer I would remove any

> unnecessary hardware (plug in cards) and try it. Once Windows is loaded

> it generally is easier to deal with them.

>

[Guest Patrick Keenan]

Re: Setup does not continue after XP preinstall and reboot

 

"mugentuner" <mugentuner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:537A41DE-4C11-4928-B484-723FB55178FC@microsoft.com...

> Yeah, thought about that as well, but i don't have any PCI cards, extra

> hd's

> or even USB devices connected when trying this clean install. I guess i

> could try removing a stick of memory and see if that helps. Have now gone

> back to fdisk and i'm doing a low level format

 

fdisk does not format, it partitions, and a genuine low level format can be

a bad idea if it's even possible.

> to see if that works,

 

Again, a genuine low-level format is often not possible.

 

What you are referring to as a low-level format is likely not, but rather

the "slow" format that checks the disk surface as it runs. The "fast"

format skips this step.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting

> and then

> try a reinstall. If not, will use a 'killdisk' on this drive to wipe it

> at

> least twice and then proceed. The pc is just not responding to this drive

> last time i checked and it just sits there with no errors or anything.

> Very

> strange. Whats weird is i've done a clean install on this drive before

> when

> windows got corrupted a while ago.

 

Have you ever had automobile brakes wear? For a while they're OK, then

they start to fail.

> Also, even tried setting the drive

> jumpers to 'master' on a single IDE cable and still no go. Any other

> experts

> want to chime in as well? Thanks

 

Substitute another new drive - these are cheap now (where I am, 500 gig

drives are under $70).

 

If the problem persists, it's not the drive, if the install poroceeds, the

faulty drive is, well, faulty and should be discarded.

 

HTH

-pk

 

>

> "Ken" wrote:

>

>> mugentuner wrote:

>> > I was trying to do a clean install of xp pro with a new HD and I let XP

>> > setup

>> > format

>> > the disc and copy all of its setup files e.t.c. When rebooting the pc,

>> > the

>> > Hard drive does not boot up to continue with the install. I've checked

>> > the

>> > boot order of the BIOS e.t.c., but it is just stuck on initial startup

>> > and

>> > will not boot. Any ideas? I've used fdisk and checked the Hard drive

>> > and

>> > the file structure looks to be in place and set as the active

>> > partition. Any

>> > help appreciated.

>> >

>>

>> There are probably others more knowledgeable about this problem than I,

>> but most of the times I saw it the problem was a piece of hardware that

>> Windows could not deal with. If it were my computer I would remove any

>> unnecessary hardware (plug in cards) and try it. Once Windows is loaded

>> it generally is easier to deal with them.

>>

[Guest mugentuner]

Re: Setup does not continue after XP preinstall and reboot

 

Yes, exactly, low level format would zero out the drive I believe.

 

"Patrick Keenan" wrote:

> "mugentuner" <mugentuner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:537A41DE-4C11-4928-B484-723FB55178FC@microsoft.com...

> > Yeah, thought about that as well, but i don't have any PCI cards, extra

> > hd's

> > or even USB devices connected when trying this clean install. I guess i

> > could try removing a stick of memory and see if that helps. Have now gone

> > back to fdisk and i'm doing a low level format

>

> fdisk does not format, it partitions, and a genuine low level format can be

> a bad idea if it's even possible.

>

> > to see if that works,

>

> Again, a genuine low-level format is often not possible.

>

> What you are referring to as a low-level format is likely not, but rather

> the "slow" format that checks the disk surface as it runs. The "fast"

> format skips this step.

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting

>

> > and then

> > try a reinstall. If not, will use a 'killdisk' on this drive to wipe it

> > at

> > least twice and then proceed. The pc is just not responding to this drive

> > last time i checked and it just sits there with no errors or anything.

> > Very

> > strange. Whats weird is i've done a clean install on this drive before

> > when

> > windows got corrupted a while ago.

>

> Have you ever had automobile brakes wear? For a while they're OK, then

> they start to fail.

>

> > Also, even tried setting the drive

> > jumpers to 'master' on a single IDE cable and still no go. Any other

> > experts

> > want to chime in as well? Thanks

>

> Substitute another new drive - these are cheap now (where I am, 500 gig

> drives are under $70).

>

> If the problem persists, it's not the drive, if the install poroceeds, the

> faulty drive is, well, faulty and should be discarded.

>

> HTH

> -pk

>

>

> >

> > "Ken" wrote:

> >

> >> mugentuner wrote:

> >> > I was trying to do a clean install of xp pro with a new HD and I let XP

> >> > setup

> >> > format

> >> > the disc and copy all of its setup files e.t.c. When rebooting the pc,

> >> > the

> >> > Hard drive does not boot up to continue with the install. I've checked

> >> > the

> >> > boot order of the BIOS e.t.c., but it is just stuck on initial startup

> >> > and

> >> > will not boot. Any ideas? I've used fdisk and checked the Hard drive

> >> > and

> >> > the file structure looks to be in place and set as the active

> >> > partition. Any

> >> > help appreciated.

> >> >

> >>

> >> There are probably others more knowledgeable about this problem than I,

> >> but most of the times I saw it the problem was a piece of hardware that

> >> Windows could not deal with. If it were my computer I would remove any

> >> unnecessary hardware (plug in cards) and try it. Once Windows is loaded

> >> it generally is easier to deal with them.

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest Ken]

Re: Setup does not continue after XP preinstall and reboot

 

mugentuner wrote:

> Yeah, thought about that as well, but i don't have any PCI cards, extra hd's

> or even USB devices connected when trying this clean install. I guess i

> could try removing a stick of memory and see if that helps. Have now gone

> back to fdisk and i'm doing a low level format to see if that works, and then

> try a reinstall. If not, will use a 'killdisk' on this drive to wipe it at

> least twice and then proceed. The pc is just not responding to this drive

> last time i checked and it just sits there with no errors or anything. Very

> strange. Whats weird is i've done a clean install on this drive before when

> windows got corrupted a while ago. Also, even tried setting the drive

> jumpers to 'master' on a single IDE cable and still no go. Any other experts

> want to chime in as well? Thanks

>

> "Ken" wrote:

>

>> mugentuner wrote:

>>> I was trying to do a clean install of xp pro with a new HD and I let XP setup

>>> format

>>> the disc and copy all of its setup files e.t.c. When rebooting the pc, the

>>> Hard drive does not boot up to continue with the install. I've checked the

>>> boot order of the BIOS e.t.c., but it is just stuck on initial startup and

>>> will not boot. Any ideas? I've used fdisk and checked the Hard drive and

>>> the file structure looks to be in place and set as the active partition. Any

>>> help appreciated.

>>>

>> There are probably others more knowledgeable about this problem than I,

>> but most of the times I saw it the problem was a piece of hardware that

>> Windows could not deal with. If it were my computer I would remove any

>> unnecessary hardware (plug in cards) and try it. Once Windows is loaded

>> it generally is easier to deal with them.

>>

 

Based upon your comments above I would tend to agree with the diagnosis

that the HD is your problem. As a last resort however I would also make

sure the CMOS settings were set at default values. There could be some

bizarre setting that is causing you problems if the HD is not the cause.

[Guest Ken Blake, MVP]

Re: Setup does not continue after XP preinstall and reboot

 

On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:39:01 -0700, mugentuner

<mugentuner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Yes, exactly, low level format would zero out the drive I believe.

 

 

Not really.

 

A true low-level format is an obsolete technique that used to work

with older hard drives. If you use such a program on a modern drive,

it doesn't zero out the drive, but *destroys* it. They are extremely

dangerous and everyone should be sure to avoid them

 

Unfortunately there are also some programs available that are called

low-level format, but are not really low-level format programs; they

just zero out the drive, as you say. Although those are not dangerous,

their name confuses the issue, and increases the risk that someone may

use a real low-level format program on a modern drive, and thereby

destroy it.

 

> "Patrick Keenan" wrote:

>

> > "mugentuner" <mugentuner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:537A41DE-4C11-4928-B484-723FB55178FC@microsoft.com...

> > > Yeah, thought about that as well, but i don't have any PCI cards, extra

> > > hd's

> > > or even USB devices connected when trying this clean install. I guess i

> > > could try removing a stick of memory and see if that helps. Have now gone

> > > back to fdisk and i'm doing a low level format

> >

> > fdisk does not format, it partitions, and a genuine low level format can be

> > a bad idea if it's even possible.

> >

> > > to see if that works,

> >

> > Again, a genuine low-level format is often not possible.

> >

> > What you are referring to as a low-level format is likely not, but rather

> > the "slow" format that checks the disk surface as it runs. The "fast"

> > format skips this step.

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting

> >

> > > and then

> > > try a reinstall. If not, will use a 'killdisk' on this drive to wipe it

> > > at

> > > least twice and then proceed. The pc is just not responding to this drive

> > > last time i checked and it just sits there with no errors or anything.

> > > Very

> > > strange. Whats weird is i've done a clean install on this drive before

> > > when

> > > windows got corrupted a while ago.

> >

> > Have you ever had automobile brakes wear? For a while they're OK, then

> > they start to fail.

> >

> > > Also, even tried setting the drive

> > > jumpers to 'master' on a single IDE cable and still no go. Any other

> > > experts

> > > want to chime in as well? Thanks

> >

> > Substitute another new drive - these are cheap now (where I am, 500 gig

> > drives are under $70).

> >

> > If the problem persists, it's not the drive, if the install poroceeds, the

> > faulty drive is, well, faulty and should be discarded.

> >

> > HTH

> > -pk

> >

> >

> > >

> > > "Ken" wrote:

> > >

> > >> mugentuner wrote:

> > >> > I was trying to do a clean install of xp pro with a new HD and I let XP

> > >> > setup

> > >> > format

> > >> > the disc and copy all of its setup files e.t.c. When rebooting the pc,

> > >> > the

> > >> > Hard drive does not boot up to continue with the install. I've checked

> > >> > the

> > >> > boot order of the BIOS e.t.c., but it is just stuck on initial startup

> > >> > and

> > >> > will not boot. Any ideas? I've used fdisk and checked the Hard drive

> > >> > and

> > >> > the file structure looks to be in place and set as the active

> > >> > partition. Any

> > >> > help appreciated.

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >> There are probably others more knowledgeable about this problem than I,

> > >> but most of the times I saw it the problem was a piece of hardware that

> > >> Windows could not deal with. If it were my computer I would remove any

> > >> unnecessary hardware (plug in cards) and try it. Once Windows is loaded

> > >> it generally is easier to deal with them.

> > >>

> >

> >

> >

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

[Guest mugentuner]

Re: Setup does not continue after XP preinstall and reboot

 

I'm running Seatools DOS version on this Seagate HD to see if it can find any

errors and automatically fix them. Will let you guys know the outcome. Seem

to be running out of options with this drive.

 

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:39:01 -0700, mugentuner

> <mugentuner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

> > Yes, exactly, low level format would zero out the drive I believe.

>

>

> Not really.

>

> A true low-level format is an obsolete technique that used to work

> with older hard drives. If you use such a program on a modern drive,

> it doesn't zero out the drive, but *destroys* it. They are extremely

> dangerous and everyone should be sure to avoid them

>

> Unfortunately there are also some programs available that are called

> low-level format, but are not really low-level format programs; they

> just zero out the drive, as you say. Although those are not dangerous,

> their name confuses the issue, and increases the risk that someone may

> use a real low-level format program on a modern drive, and thereby

> destroy it.

>

>

> > "Patrick Keenan" wrote:

> >

> > > "mugentuner" <mugentuner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:537A41DE-4C11-4928-B484-723FB55178FC@microsoft.com...

> > > > Yeah, thought about that as well, but i don't have any PCI cards, extra

> > > > hd's

> > > > or even USB devices connected when trying this clean install. I guess i

> > > > could try removing a stick of memory and see if that helps. Have now gone

> > > > back to fdisk and i'm doing a low level format

> > >

> > > fdisk does not format, it partitions, and a genuine low level format can be

> > > a bad idea if it's even possible.

> > >

> > > > to see if that works,

> > >

> > > Again, a genuine low-level format is often not possible.

> > >

> > > What you are referring to as a low-level format is likely not, but rather

> > > the "slow" format that checks the disk surface as it runs. The "fast"

> > > format skips this step.

> > >

> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting

> > >

> > > > and then

> > > > try a reinstall. If not, will use a 'killdisk' on this drive to wipe it

> > > > at

> > > > least twice and then proceed. The pc is just not responding to this drive

> > > > last time i checked and it just sits there with no errors or anything.

> > > > Very

> > > > strange. Whats weird is i've done a clean install on this drive before

> > > > when

> > > > windows got corrupted a while ago.

> > >

> > > Have you ever had automobile brakes wear? For a while they're OK, then

> > > they start to fail.

> > >

> > > > Also, even tried setting the drive

> > > > jumpers to 'master' on a single IDE cable and still no go. Any other

> > > > experts

> > > > want to chime in as well? Thanks

> > >

> > > Substitute another new drive - these are cheap now (where I am, 500 gig

> > > drives are under $70).

> > >

> > > If the problem persists, it's not the drive, if the install poroceeds, the

> > > faulty drive is, well, faulty and should be discarded.

> > >

> > > HTH

> > > -pk

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > "Ken" wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> mugentuner wrote:

> > > >> > I was trying to do a clean install of xp pro with a new HD and I let XP

> > > >> > setup

> > > >> > format

> > > >> > the disc and copy all of its setup files e.t.c. When rebooting the pc,

> > > >> > the

> > > >> > Hard drive does not boot up to continue with the install. I've checked

> > > >> > the

> > > >> > boot order of the BIOS e.t.c., but it is just stuck on initial startup

> > > >> > and

> > > >> > will not boot. Any ideas? I've used fdisk and checked the Hard drive

> > > >> > and

> > > >> > the file structure looks to be in place and set as the active

> > > >> > partition. Any

> > > >> > help appreciated.

> > > >> >

> > > >>

> > > >> There are probably others more knowledgeable about this problem than I,

> > > >> but most of the times I saw it the problem was a piece of hardware that

> > > >> Windows could not deal with. If it were my computer I would remove any

> > > >> unnecessary hardware (plug in cards) and try it. Once Windows is loaded

> > > >> it generally is easier to deal with them.

> > > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

[Guest Patrick Keenan]

Re: Setup does not continue after XP preinstall and reboot

 

"mugentuner" <mugentuner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:E5067719-8060-4A3D-B181-94B6668DA409@microsoft.com...

> Yes, exactly, low level format would zero out the drive I believe.

 

Not really. In fact it may not be possible for you to do a low-level

format, and even if you were able to, your problems would likely be much

worse. You are likely just doing a high-level format with some disk

checking.

 

Try another drive, this will show you quickly where the problem exists. If

a new drive works properly, discard the old one.

 

HTH

-pk

 

> "Patrick Keenan" wrote:

>

>> "mugentuner" <mugentuner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:537A41DE-4C11-4928-B484-723FB55178FC@microsoft.com...

>> > Yeah, thought about that as well, but i don't have any PCI cards, extra

>> > hd's

>> > or even USB devices connected when trying this clean install. I guess

>> > i

>> > could try removing a stick of memory and see if that helps. Have now

>> > gone

>> > back to fdisk and i'm doing a low level format

>>

>> fdisk does not format, it partitions, and a genuine low level format can

>> be

>> a bad idea if it's even possible.

>>

>> > to see if that works,

>>

>> Again, a genuine low-level format is often not possible.

>>

>> What you are referring to as a low-level format is likely not, but rather

>> the "slow" format that checks the disk surface as it runs. The "fast"

>> format skips this step.

>>

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting

>>

>> > and then

>> > try a reinstall. If not, will use a 'killdisk' on this drive to wipe

>> > it

>> > at

>> > least twice and then proceed. The pc is just not responding to this

>> > drive

>> > last time i checked and it just sits there with no errors or anything.

>> > Very

>> > strange. Whats weird is i've done a clean install on this drive before

>> > when

>> > windows got corrupted a while ago.

>>

>> Have you ever had automobile brakes wear? For a while they're OK, then

>> they start to fail.

>>

>> > Also, even tried setting the drive

>> > jumpers to 'master' on a single IDE cable and still no go. Any other

>> > experts

>> > want to chime in as well? Thanks

>>

>> Substitute another new drive - these are cheap now (where I am, 500 gig

>> drives are under $70).

>>

>> If the problem persists, it's not the drive, if the install poroceeds,

>> the

>> faulty drive is, well, faulty and should be discarded.

>>

>> HTH

>> -pk

>>

>>

>> >

>> > "Ken" wrote:

>> >

>> >> mugentuner wrote:

>> >> > I was trying to do a clean install of xp pro with a new HD and I let

>> >> > XP

>> >> > setup

>> >> > format

>> >> > the disc and copy all of its setup files e.t.c. When rebooting the

>> >> > pc,

>> >> > the

>> >> > Hard drive does not boot up to continue with the install. I've

>> >> > checked

>> >> > the

>> >> > boot order of the BIOS e.t.c., but it is just stuck on initial

>> >> > startup

>> >> > and

>> >> > will not boot. Any ideas? I've used fdisk and checked the Hard

>> >> > drive

>> >> > and

>> >> > the file structure looks to be in place and set as the active

>> >> > partition. Any

>> >> > help appreciated.

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >> There are probably others more knowledgeable about this problem than

>> >> I,

>> >> but most of the times I saw it the problem was a piece of hardware

>> >> that

>> >> Windows could not deal with. If it were my computer I would remove

>> >> any

>> >> unnecessary hardware (plug in cards) and try it. Once Windows is

>> >> loaded

>> >> it generally is easier to deal with them.

>> >>

>>

>>

>>