Guest (PeteCresswell) Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC. Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux side - using something called "Grub". Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that wonderful an experience. Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side? -- PeteCresswell
Guest Ronaldo Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? How to dual-boot Windows NT/2000/XP and Linux using NTLDR (Includes Boot.ini & ntldr edition) http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/ntldr.php How To Dual boot Windows and Linux http://www.littlewhitedog.com/content-52.html Convert a Windows system to dual-boot Linux on a second drive http://www.linux.com/feature/113945 ------------------------------------- "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> escribió en el mensaje news:c2bcg4l2eeufbh8ma2msn8v16oqaippk3c@4ax.com... > I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC. > > Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux > side - using something called "Grub". > > Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that > wonderful an experience. > > Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side? > -- > PeteCresswell
Guest Bob I Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? Only with 2 or more Windows partitions. Windows doesn't "support" booting Linux. (PeteCresswell) wrote: > I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC. > > Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux > side - using something called "Grub". > > Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that > wonderful an experience. > > Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side?
Guest Rich Barry Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? Pete, don't know how long ago you tried it but from the Linux side is much easier. Grub will automatically include your WinXP OS and you will have an option to select which OS you want to boot. "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message news:c2bcg4l2eeufbh8ma2msn8v16oqaippk3c@4ax.com... > I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC. > > Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux > side - using something called "Grub". > > Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that > wonderful an experience. > > Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side? > -- > PeteCresswell
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message news:c2bcg4l2eeufbh8ma2msn8v16oqaippk3c@4ax.com... > I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC. > > Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux > side - using something called "Grub". > > Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that > wonderful an experience. > > Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side? > -- > PeteCresswell No, there isn't. However, there are a number of third-party boot managers that will work with just about any OS. XOSL is one of them, and it's free. It lets you boot into any OS on any disk or partition, primary or logical. Furthermore, it won't modify the boot environment of any of the installed OSs - it simply passes control to the one you select.
Guest Ray Parrish Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? The best way is to install your version of Windows first, then get the Ubuntu Live CD and use it to install Ubuntu on your system. It will take care of installing grub and setting up the dual boot for you. http://www.ubuntu.com Later, Ray Parrish (PeteCresswell) wrote: > I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC. > > Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux > side - using something called "Grub". > > Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that > wonderful an experience. > > Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side? -- http://www.rayslinks.com/ Web index of human reviewed links. <http://www.rayslinks.com/Troubleshooting%20and%20fixing%20Windows.html> Trouble shooting and Fixing Windows http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com My poetry in web pages
Guest Ronaldo Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? Here is one more option. Wubi 8.04.1 http://www.download.com/Wubi/3000-2094_4-10701841.html ----------------------------------------------- "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> escribió en el mensaje news:c2bcg4l2eeufbh8ma2msn8v16oqaippk3c@4ax.com... > I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC. > > Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux > side - using something called "Grub". > > Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that > wonderful an experience. > > Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side? > -- > PeteCresswell
Guest (PeteCresswell) Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? Per Rich Barry: > Pete, don't know how long ago you tried it but from the Linux side is >much easier. Grub will automatically include your WinXP > OS and you will have an option to select which OS you want to boot. That would be the same as Ray Parrish's observation, right? i.e. Build the Windows system first, then install Linux (in this case MythBuntu 8.04) second and look for some sort of multi boot option - which I'm going to try right now. -- PeteCresswell
Guest Ray Parrish Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? I don't remember the Ubuntu installations asking if I wanted to multi-boot, it just detected my Win XP installation and assumed I wanted to dual boot and set it up for me. Later, Ray Parrish (PeteCresswell) wrote: > Per Rich Barry: >> Pete, don't know how long ago you tried it but from the Linux side is >> much easier. Grub will automatically include your WinXP >> OS and you will have an option to select which OS you want to boot. > > That would be the same as Ray Parrish's observation, right? > > i.e. Build the Windows system first, then install Linux (in this > case MythBuntu 8.04) second and look for some sort of multi boot > option - which I'm going to try right now. -- http://www.rayslinks.com/ Web index of human reviewed links. <http://www.rayslinks.com/Troubleshooting%20and%20fixing%20Windows.html> Trouble shooting and Fixing Windows http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com My poetry in web pages
Guest Rich Barry Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? Pete, that's exactly right. I have WinME, Win2K Pro, 2 WinXP Pro's and 8 Linux Distro's on my 80G Drive. Why, don't ask. "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message news:h9icg49jk7m7d36noi86m6tthj66asbej5@4ax.com... > Per Rich Barry: >> Pete, don't know how long ago you tried it but from the Linux side is >>much easier. Grub will automatically include your WinXP >> OS and you will have an option to select which OS you want to boot. > > That would be the same as Ray Parrish's observation, right? > > i.e. Build the Windows system first, then install Linux (in this > case MythBuntu 8.04) second and look for some sort of multi boot > option - which I'm going to try right now. > -- > PeteCresswell
Guest (PeteCresswell) Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? Per Ray Parrish: >I don't remember the Ubuntu installations asking if I wanted to >multi-boot, it just detected my Win XP installation and assumed I wanted >to dual boot and set it up for me. I'm in the home stretch right now. Did the Myth install over top of an existing XP system. It prompted for partition and I specified 50-50 on a 300-gigger. On the last re-boot, I noticed a "Which system" prompt that timed out and defaulted to Linux after a few seconds. I'm config'ing MythTV right now. Then we'll go back and see what's left of the XP install..... -) -- PeteCresswell
Guest (PeteCresswell) Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? Per (PeteCresswell): >Then we'll go back and see what's left of the XP install..... -) Seems tb intact. Only zinger is that Grub doesn't know from a USB2 keyboard. I can live with that - just keep an old keyboard sitting on top of the box for when I want to interact w/Grub. -- PeteCresswell
Guest dadiOH Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? Ray Parrish wrote: > The best way is to install your version of Windows first, then get the > Ubuntu Live CD and use it to install Ubuntu on your system. It will > take care of installing grub and setting up the dual boot for you. Two caveats... 1. If you should happen to already have two OS installs - XP + 98, eg - you will have two boot menus to go through if you want to boot XP: first, the GRUB then the normal XP. 2. If you decide to dump Ubuntu you will have to repair the MBR to get rid of the GRUB loader. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest ManyBeers Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? "Bob I" wrote: > Only with 2 or more Windows partitions. Windows doesn't "support" > booting Linux. In my dual-boot WindowsXP+Ubuntu setup I use windows to boot Ubuntu: [boot loader] timeout=8 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn C:\ubuntu.bin="Ubuntu Never boot Linux when Windows is in Hibernation" It works fine.
Guest Bob I Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? I stand corrected! ManyBeers wrote: > > "Bob I" wrote: > > >>Only with 2 or more Windows partitions. Windows doesn't "support" >>booting Linux. > > > In my dual-boot WindowsXP+Ubuntu setup I use windows to boot Ubuntu: > > [boot loader] > timeout=8 > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS > [operating systems] > C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home > Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn > C:\ubuntu.bin="Ubuntu Never boot Linux when Windows is in Hibernation" > > It works fine. > > >
Guest (PeteCresswell) Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? Per dadiOH: >Two caveats... > >1. If you should happen to already have two OS installs - XP + 98, eg - you >will have two boot menus to go through if you want to boot XP: first, the >GRUB then the normal XP. > >2. If you decide to dump Ubuntu you will have to repair the MBR to get rid >of the GRUB loader. How about creating backup images? What's the path of least resistance? Image the entire drive? (which I've never done before) Image the two partitions separately? (which I do....using something called TeraByte - but it seems like the custom boot block is now not backed up) -- PeteCresswell
Guest Terry R. Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box? The date and time was 10/28/2008 1:25 PM, and on a whim, (PeteCresswell) pounded out on the keyboard: > Per dadiOH: >> Two caveats... >> >> 1. If you should happen to already have two OS installs - XP + 98, eg - you >> will have two boot menus to go through if you want to boot XP: first, the >> GRUB then the normal XP. >> >> 2. If you decide to dump Ubuntu you will have to repair the MBR to get rid >> of the GRUB loader. > > How about creating backup images? > > What's the path of least resistance? > > Image the entire drive? (which I've never done before) > > Image the two partitions separately? (which I do....using > something called TeraByte - but it seems like the custom boot > block is now not backed up) > Hi Pete, I use Boot Magic to handle my 5 OS's (used to come with Partition Magic- don't know if it still does). I remember reading here that without a boot manager like Boot Magic, one couldn't boot a Win9x partition within XP/wk2 (not your issue I know but it's mentioned above). While you can use the built in managers for what you want to do, a boot manager for me makes selecting an OS a one selection procedure. I use Partition Magic to create backup partitions of all my partitions, so it doubles as a backup program. So if I need to restore from another of the hard drives, I reboot into my DOS partition and use Partition Magic from there (you have to reboot most of the time to copy a partition so I use the DOS version of PM so it isn't necessary) I have three hard drives and keep redundant copies within the three, and my data is redundant between two. -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.
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