How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

[Guest (PeteCresswell)]

I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC.

 

Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux

side - using something called "Grub".

 

Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that

wonderful an experience.

 

Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side?

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PeteCresswell

[Guest Ronaldo]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

How to dual-boot Windows NT/2000/XP and Linux using NTLDR (Includes Boot.ini

& ntldr edition)

http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/ntldr.php

 

How To Dual boot Windows and Linux

http://www.littlewhitedog.com/content-52.html

 

Convert a Windows system to dual-boot Linux on a second drive

http://www.linux.com/feature/113945

 

 

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"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> escribió en el mensaje

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> I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC.

>

> Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux

> side - using something called "Grub".

>

> Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that

> wonderful an experience.

>

> Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side?

> --

> PeteCresswell

[Guest Bob I]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

Only with 2 or more Windows partitions. Windows doesn't "support"

booting Linux.

 

(PeteCresswell) wrote:

> I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC.

>

> Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux

> side - using something called "Grub".

>

> Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that

> wonderful an experience.

>

> Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side?

[Guest Rich Barry]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

Pete, don't know how long ago you tried it but from the Linux side is

much easier. Grub will automatically include your WinXP

OS and you will have an option to select which OS you want to boot.

 

"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message

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> I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC.

>

> Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux

> side - using something called "Grub".

>

> Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that

> wonderful an experience.

>

> Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side?

> --

> PeteCresswell

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

 

"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message

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> I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC.

>

> Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux

> side - using something called "Grub".

>

> Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that

> wonderful an experience.

>

> Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side?

> --

> PeteCresswell

 

No, there isn't. However, there are a number of third-party boot managers

that will work with just about any OS. XOSL is one of them, and it's free.

It lets you boot into any OS on any disk or partition, primary or logical.

Furthermore, it won't modify the boot environment of any of the installed

OSs - it simply passes control to the one you select.

[Guest Ray Parrish]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

The best way is to install your version of Windows first, then get the

Ubuntu Live CD and use it to install Ubuntu on your system. It will take

care of installing grub and setting up the dual boot for you.

 

http://www.ubuntu.com

 

Later, Ray Parrish

 

(PeteCresswell) wrote:

> I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC.

>

> Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux

> side - using something called "Grub".

>

> Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that

> wonderful an experience.

>

> Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side?

 

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[Guest Ronaldo]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

Here is one more option.

 

Wubi 8.04.1

http://www.download.com/Wubi/3000-2094_4-10701841.html

 

 

 

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"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> escribió en el mensaje

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> I'd like to put Windows XP and Linux on the same PC.

>

> Done it a long time ago with Win2k going at it from the Linux

> side - using something called "Grub".

>

> Can't remember the details, but it seems like it wasn't all that

> wonderful an experience.

>

> Is there a way to approach it from the Windows side?

> --

> PeteCresswell

[Guest (PeteCresswell)]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

Per Rich Barry:

> Pete, don't know how long ago you tried it but from the Linux side is

>much easier. Grub will automatically include your WinXP

> OS and you will have an option to select which OS you want to boot.

 

That would be the same as Ray Parrish's observation, right?

 

i.e. Build the Windows system first, then install Linux (in this

case MythBuntu 8.04) second and look for some sort of multi boot

option - which I'm going to try right now.

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PeteCresswell

[Guest Ray Parrish]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

I don't remember the Ubuntu installations asking if I wanted to

multi-boot, it just detected my Win XP installation and assumed I wanted

to dual boot and set it up for me.

 

Later, Ray Parrish

 

(PeteCresswell) wrote:

> Per Rich Barry:

>> Pete, don't know how long ago you tried it but from the Linux side is

>> much easier. Grub will automatically include your WinXP

>> OS and you will have an option to select which OS you want to boot.

>

> That would be the same as Ray Parrish's observation, right?

>

> i.e. Build the Windows system first, then install Linux (in this

> case MythBuntu 8.04) second and look for some sort of multi boot

> option - which I'm going to try right now.

 

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[Guest Rich Barry]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

Pete, that's exactly right. I have WinME, Win2K Pro, 2 WinXP Pro's and

8 Linux Distro's on my 80G Drive. Why, don't ask.

 

"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message

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> Per Rich Barry:

>> Pete, don't know how long ago you tried it but from the Linux side is

>>much easier. Grub will automatically include your WinXP

>> OS and you will have an option to select which OS you want to boot.

>

> That would be the same as Ray Parrish's observation, right?

>

> i.e. Build the Windows system first, then install Linux (in this

> case MythBuntu 8.04) second and look for some sort of multi boot

> option - which I'm going to try right now.

> --

> PeteCresswell

[Guest (PeteCresswell)]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

Per Ray Parrish:

>I don't remember the Ubuntu installations asking if I wanted to

>multi-boot, it just detected my Win XP installation and assumed I wanted

>to dual boot and set it up for me.

 

I'm in the home stretch right now.

 

Did the Myth install over top of an existing XP system.

 

It prompted for partition and I specified 50-50 on a 300-gigger.

 

On the last re-boot, I noticed a "Which system" prompt that timed

out and defaulted to Linux after a few seconds.

 

I'm config'ing MythTV right now.

 

Then we'll go back and see what's left of the XP install..... -)

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[Guest (PeteCresswell)]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

Per (PeteCresswell):

>Then we'll go back and see what's left of the XP install..... -)

 

Seems tb intact.

 

Only zinger is that Grub doesn't know from a USB2 keyboard.

 

I can live with that - just keep an old keyboard sitting on top

of the box for when I want to interact w/Grub.

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[Guest dadiOH]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

Ray Parrish wrote:

> The best way is to install your version of Windows first, then get the

> Ubuntu Live CD and use it to install Ubuntu on your system. It will

> take care of installing grub and setting up the dual boot for you.

 

Two caveats...

 

1. If you should happen to already have two OS installs - XP + 98, eg - you

will have two boot menus to go through if you want to boot XP: first, the

GRUB then the normal XP.

 

2. If you decide to dump Ubuntu you will have to repair the MBR to get rid

of the GRUB loader.

 

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[Guest ManyBeers]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

 

 

"Bob I" wrote:

> Only with 2 or more Windows partitions. Windows doesn't "support"

> booting Linux.

 

In my dual-boot WindowsXP+Ubuntu setup I use windows to boot Ubuntu:

 

[boot loader]

timeout=8

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home

Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

C:\ubuntu.bin="Ubuntu Never boot Linux when Windows is in Hibernation"

 

It works fine.

[Guest Bob I]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

I stand corrected!

 

ManyBeers wrote:

>

> "Bob I" wrote:

>

>

>>Only with 2 or more Windows partitions. Windows doesn't "support"

>>booting Linux.

>

>

> In my dual-boot WindowsXP+Ubuntu setup I use windows to boot Ubuntu:

>

> [boot loader]

> timeout=8

> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

> [operating systems]

> C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home

> Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

> C:\ubuntu.bin="Ubuntu Never boot Linux when Windows is in Hibernation"

>

> It works fine.

>

>

>

[Guest (PeteCresswell)]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

Per dadiOH:

>Two caveats...

>

>1. If you should happen to already have two OS installs - XP + 98, eg - you

>will have two boot menus to go through if you want to boot XP: first, the

>GRUB then the normal XP.

>

>2. If you decide to dump Ubuntu you will have to repair the MBR to get rid

>of the GRUB loader.

 

How about creating backup images?

 

What's the path of least resistance?

 

Image the entire drive? (which I've never done before)

 

Image the two partitions separately? (which I do....using

something called TeraByte - but it seems like the custom boot

block is now not backed up)

 

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PeteCresswell

[Guest Terry R.]

Re: How To Build Multi-Boot Box?

 

The date and time was 10/28/2008 1:25 PM, and on a whim, (PeteCresswell)

pounded out on the keyboard:

> Per dadiOH:

>> Two caveats...

>>

>> 1. If you should happen to already have two OS installs - XP + 98, eg - you

>> will have two boot menus to go through if you want to boot XP: first, the

>> GRUB then the normal XP.

>>

>> 2. If you decide to dump Ubuntu you will have to repair the MBR to get rid

>> of the GRUB loader.

>

> How about creating backup images?

>

> What's the path of least resistance?

>

> Image the entire drive? (which I've never done before)

>

> Image the two partitions separately? (which I do....using

> something called TeraByte - but it seems like the custom boot

> block is now not backed up)

>

 

Hi Pete,

 

I use Boot Magic to handle my 5 OS's (used to come with Partition Magic-

don't know if it still does). I remember reading here that without a

boot manager like Boot Magic, one couldn't boot a Win9x partition within

XP/wk2 (not your issue I know but it's mentioned above).

 

While you can use the built in managers for what you want to do, a boot

manager for me makes selecting an OS a one selection procedure.

 

I use Partition Magic to create backup partitions of all my partitions,

so it doubles as a backup program. So if I need to restore from another

of the hard drives, I reboot into my DOS partition and use Partition

Magic from there (you have to reboot most of the time to copy a

partition so I use the DOS version of PM so it isn't necessary)

 

I have three hard drives and keep redundant copies within the three, and

my data is redundant between two.

 

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