Guest Bill Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) partition small enough to be in a condition where it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the Registry and a re-boot? Thanks, Bill
Guest Ray Parrish Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive Why not just re-size the partitions... Get the GParted Live CD image from the following link and burn it to CD. Now boot from it and you will be able to use GParted to do a non-destructive re-sizing of your partitions. http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php Later, Ray Parrish Bill wrote: > I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an > idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) > partition small enough to be in a condition where > it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a > bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of > the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the > Registry and a re-boot? > > > Thanks, > Bill > > -- http://www.rayslinks.com/ Web index of human reviewed links. <http://www.rayslinks.com/Troubleshooting%20and%20fixing%20Windows.html> Trouble shooting and Fixing Windows http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com My poetry in web pages
Guest Bill in Co. Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main system partition (C:). Why can't you run a Defrag on that partition? But of course you can always resize the partitions, if desired, with something like Partition Magic. Bill wrote: > I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an > idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) > partition small enough to be in a condition where > it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a > bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of > the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the > Registry and a re-boot? > > > Thanks, > Bill
Guest Xandros Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive Do not move the pagefile to another partition on the same drive. This will cause performance degradation. You will only benefit from moving it to a second drive. -- Xandros "Bill" <billstanton@psln.com> wrote in message news:t8SdnSGf9dJwCpvUnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@trueband.net... >I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an > idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) > partition small enough to be in a condition where > it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a > bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of > the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the > Registry and a re-boot? > > > Thanks, > Bill >
Guest Bill Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive Ray, It doesn't appear that GParted will solve my problem, in that what I need to do is what GParted says can't normally be done. I.e., make one partition larger while making the adjacent partition smaller. From GParted: A hard disk is usually subdivided into one or more partitions. These partitions are normally not re-sizable (making one smaller and the adjacent one larger). The purpose of GParted is to allow the individual to take a hard disk and change the partition organization therein, while preserving the partition contents. Bill "Ray Parrish" <crp@cmc.net> wrote in message news:esserhLOJHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Why not just re-size the partitions... Get the GParted Live CD image from > the following link and burn it to CD. Now boot from it and you will be > able to use GParted to do a non-destructive re-sizing of your partitions. > > http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php > > Later, Ray Parrish > > Bill wrote: >> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an >> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) >> partition small enough to be in a condition where >> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a >> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of >> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the >> Registry and a re-boot? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Bill > > -- > http://www.rayslinks.com/ Web index of human reviewed links. > <http://www.rayslinks.com/Troubleshooting%20and%20fixing%20Windows.html> > Trouble shooting and Fixing Windows > http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com My poetry in web pages
Guest Bill Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive Bill, "partition Magic" documentation indicates it has a limit of 80GB HDA's. Mine is 120GB. They also want $70 for their package, an amount that would be too much to pay for a one-time fix. Thanks, Bill "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:OKIuNiLOJHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main >system partition (C:). Why can't you run a Defrag on that partition? But >of course you can always resize the partitions, if desired, with something >like Partition Magic. > > Bill wrote: >> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an >> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) >> partition small enough to be in a condition where >> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a >> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of >> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the >> Registry and a re-boot? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Bill > >
Guest Ronaldo Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive You can force a defrag of a partition even with limited free space with "defrag c: -f" in the command prompt. This application can resize partitions and it's free EASEUS Partition Manager Personal 1.6.4 How to move the paging file in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307886 Move the paging file to another area http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-2000/move-the-paging-file-to-another-are/64014.html --------------------------------- "Bill" <billstanton@psln.com> escribió en el mensaje news:t8SdnSGf9dJwCpvUnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@trueband.net... >I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an > idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) > partition small enough to be in a condition where > it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a > bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of > the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the > Registry and a re-boot? > > > Thanks, > Bill >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive That must be for an older version of Partition Magic, or else that doc is out of date. I'm using version 8.0, which works with larger drives. (I have a 250 GB drive here). Another option (cheaper) is BootItNG, but it isn't quite as "user-friendly". And of course for any such non-destructive partition resizing, you need to be very careful and read its documentation carefully. (and some backups would be ideal, as usual) Bill wrote: > Bill, > "partition Magic" documentation indicates it has a > limit of 80GB HDA's. Mine is 120GB. They also > want $70 for their package, an amount that would > be too much to pay for a one-time fix. > Thanks, > Bill > > > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:OKIuNiLOJHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main >> system partition (C:). Why can't you run a Defrag on that partition? >> But >> of course you can always resize the partitions, if desired, with >> something >> like Partition Magic. >> >> Bill wrote: >>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an >>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) >>> partition small enough to be in a condition where >>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a >>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of >>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the >>> Registry and a re-boot? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bill
Guest Mick Murphy Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive You would! Everybody else KNOWS that it makes more sense to have it on a different drive. -- Mad Mike "Bill in Co." wrote: >I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main >system partition (C:).
Guest Mick Murphy Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive Post in your own name, you gutless p*ick. -- Mad Mike "Mick Murphy" wrote: > You would! Everybody else KNOWS that it makes > more sense to have it on a different drive. > -- > Mad Mike > > "Bill in Co." wrote: > > >I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main > >system partition (C:). >
Guest Lil' Dave Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive "Bill" <billstanton@psln.com> wrote in message news:t8SdnSGf9dJwCpvUnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@trueband.net... >I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an > idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) > partition small enough to be in a condition where > it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a > bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of > the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the > Registry and a re-boot? > > > Thanks, > Bill > The method that I use for moving the pagefile to another partition is as follows: Control panel System Advanced tab Performance settings Advanced tab Virtual memory change Highlight the partition letter where you want the pagefile located, select system managed size, click "Set" Highlight the partition "C", select No paging file, click "Set". Restart the PC for the above changes to take effect. I take no position on moving the paging file regarding performance. I take no position regarding best size of paging file, or if system managed size is appropriate. Both "best" location and size are dependent on information not provided by the OP. Typically, if the C: partition is to be resized, it must be done from a 3rd party partitioning software that does not operate within the XP environment since the OP did not provide that information. I am assuming all of XP is installed in the C: partition. As far as appropriate 3rd party partitioning software for that purpose, being relatively up to date, it depends if your partition(s) are NTFS type 3, or FAT32. Of which, that information was not provided by the OP. -- Dave If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not a cantaloupe.
Guest Bob I Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive But what the OP was actually planning on doing was moving to a partition on the same drive, so not different drive at all, only drive letter. Mick Murphy wrote: > You would! Everybody else KNOWS that it makes > more sense to have it on a different drive. > -- > Mad Mike > > "Bill in Co." wrote: > > >>I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main >>system partition (C:).
Guest Master Blaster Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive Also suggest setting a fixed size (min = max) = 2 x RAM -- =============== Master Blaster Computer System Specialist IT Technician "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message news:uoYDWVNOJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: > "Bill" <billstanton@psln.com> wrote in message > news:t8SdnSGf9dJwCpvUnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@trueband.net... > >I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an > > idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) > > partition small enough to be in a condition where > > it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a > > bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of > > the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the > > Registry and a re-boot? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > > The method that I use for moving the pagefile to another partition is as > follows: > Control panel > System > Advanced tab > Performance settings > Advanced tab > Virtual memory change > Highlight the partition letter where you want the pagefile located, select > system managed size, click "Set" > Highlight the partition "C", select No paging file, click "Set". > Restart the PC for the above changes to take effect. I take no position on > moving the paging file regarding performance. I take no position regarding > best size of paging file, or if system managed size is appropriate. Both > "best" location and size are dependent on information not provided by the > OP. > > Typically, if the C: partition is to be resized, it must be done from a 3rd > party partitioning software that does not operate within the XP environment > since the OP did not provide that information. I am assuming all of XP is > installed in the C: partition. As far as appropriate 3rd party partitioning > software for that purpose, being relatively up to date, it depends if your > partition(s) are NTFS type 3, or FAT32. Of which, that information was not > provided by the OP. > -- > Dave > > If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not > a cantaloupe.
Guest Twayne Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive > Why not just re-size the partitions... Get the GParted Live CD image > from the following link and burn it to CD. Now boot from it and you > will be able to use GParted to do a non-destructive re-sizing of your > partitions. > http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php BUT, as always, BACK UP FIRST! Just in case. Stuff happens. > > Later, Ray Parrish > > Bill wrote: >> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an >> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) >> partition small enough to be in a condition where >> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a >> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of >> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the >> Registry and a re-boot? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Bill
Guest Twayne Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive > You would! Everybody else KNOWS that it makes > more sense to have it on a different drive. > >> I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the >> main system partition (C:). No. It can sometimes help, not always noticeably, to have it on another PHYSICAL hard drive, but moving it to a different drive letter on the same physican drive can actually slow things down noticeably. Get your facts straight, poser!
Guest Twayne Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive > I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an > idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) > partition small enough to be in a condition where > it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a > bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of > the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the > Registry and a re-boot? > > > Thanks, > Bill You use a selection in options, amongst other ways, to move or size the pagefile. However, moving the pagefile to another drive letter on the same physical drive is most likely going to cause a noticeable and *annoying* slowdown in your machine. If that's acceptable, use: Start; Settings; control panel; and click on System icon. Then choose the Advance tab, and click the top Settings button in the Performance rectangle. In Settings Performance Options, in the Virtual Memory rectangle, click on Change. Now select the drive you want, and click Let Windows Manage ... , click SET. Select drive C, and set it for NO swap file. Click SET N O T E : If you don't click SET, nothing happens. YOu must click SET for EACH drive you change!! OK your way out and restart. -------------------- You could also simply kill the pagefile and restart before doing a defrag. ------------------- But neither of those are very good solutions and at best are simply bandaids to cover up a problem. You really need a larger hard drive. Hard drives are very cheap these days and getting a second one is your absolute best solution long term. Right now you have zero room for any kind of expansion on your boot drive. NOTHING here or in any of the posts so far is going to give you anything but a temporary respite from your problems. UNLESS you have gobs of room on the second partition. But you didn't give any details so I'm not going to guess at what other solutions may be viable. When you provide usable information then more functional answers can be provided. -- How to Post a newsgroup question effectively: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q555375
Guest Bill Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:eKAViJROJHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an >> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) >> partition small enough to be in a condition where >> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a >> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of >> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the >> Registry and a re-boot? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Bill > > You use a selection in options, amongst other ways, to move or size the > pagefile. However, moving the pagefile to another drive letter on the > same physical drive is most likely going to cause a noticeable and > *annoying* slowdown in your machine. > If that's acceptable, use: > Start; Settings; control panel; and click on System icon. > Then choose the Advance tab, and click the top Settings button in the > Performance rectangle. > In Settings Performance Options, in the Virtual Memory rectangle, click on > Change. > Now select the drive you want, and click Let Windows Manage ... , click > SET. > Select drive C, and set it for NO swap file. Click SET > N O T E : If you don't click SET, nothing happens. YOu must click SET for > EACH drive you change!! > > OK your way out and restart. > -------------------- > > You could also simply kill the pagefile and restart before doing a defrag. > ------------------- > > But neither of those are very good solutions and at best are simply > bandaids to cover up a problem. > You really need a larger hard drive. Hard drives are very cheap these > days and getting a second one is your absolute best solution long term. > Right now you have zero room for any kind of expansion on your boot drive. > NOTHING here or in any of the posts so far is going to give you anything > but a temporary respite from your problems. > UNLESS you have gobs of room on the second partition. But you didn't > give any details so I'm not going to guess at what other solutions may be > viable. When you provide usable information then more functional answers > can be provided. > > -- > > How to Post a newsgroup > question effectively: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q555375 The drive is 120GB. And yes, there's "gobs of room" on the 2nd partition. I'm in California and the "offending" computer is in Connecticut, so I'm not in a position to resolve the problem more appropriately. I've managed to help "Connecticut" to move every non-system folder to their larger partition so that ONLY system files "come and go" on their "C" drive. We finally got the "C" partition defragged to where there's 1.88GB free and we'll see how things go. One thing I stumbled upon was an enormous "Temp" folder in the users "Local Settings", like 2GB. What's with that? Those files didn't seem to be associated with temporary Internet files that "Connecticut" purges on a regular basis. It would seem, by definition, that those files could be deleted when there were no applications running, save system oriented processes. Thanks, Bill
Guest Gerry Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive Bill There are no third party freeware partition managers. You can get shareware for periods up to 30 days. BootIt NG is one example: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads-bootit-next-generation.htm I use BootIt NG. It does not have the easiest user interface but the videos on the web site are helpful. Without resizing partitions you can create more free space in C by carrying any of the measures suggested below. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit. A default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history is held. The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever. If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$ etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System Information, Tools, Dr Watson and verify that the box before "Append to existing log" is NOT checked. This means the next time the log is written it will overwrite rather than add to the existing file. The default maximum size setting for Event Viewer logs is too large. Reset the maximum for each log from 512 kb to 128 kb and set it to overwrite. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us You can generate more space in the system partition by relocation of folders. For Temporary Internet Files select Start, Control Panel, Internet Options, Temporary Internet Files. Settings, Move Folder. To move the Outlook Express Store Folder select in Outlook Express Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder, Change. http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/files/store.htm How to Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310147 You may also need to change Default File locations in the Microsoft Office programmes you choose to move the My Documents folder. For Word go to Tools, Options, File Locations, highlight Documents, click on Modify and change file path. For Excel go to Tools, Options, General and change default file path. My Documents is one of a number of system created Special Folders including My Pictures and My Music. These can more easily be relocated using Tweak Ui. Download TweakUI, one of the MS powertoys, from here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp In TweakUi select My Computer, Special Folders. You can scroll down to see the full list of Special Folders to the left of the Change Location button. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill wrote: > Bill, > "partition Magic" documentation indicates it has a > limit of 80GB HDA's. Mine is 120GB. They also > want $70 for their package, an amount that would > be too much to pay for a one-time fix. > Thanks, > Bill > > > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:OKIuNiLOJHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the >> main system partition (C:). Why can't you run a Defrag on that >> partition? But of course you can always resize the partitions, if >> desired, with something like Partition Magic. >> >> Bill wrote: >>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an >>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) >>> partition small enough to be in a condition where >>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a >>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of >>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the >>> Registry and a re-boot? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bill
Guest Bill in Co. Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive Twayne wrote: >> You would! Everybody else KNOWS that it makes >> more sense to have it on a different drive. >> >>> I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the >>> main system partition (C:). > > No. It can sometimes help, not always noticeably, to have it on another > PHYSICAL hard drive, but moving it to a different drive letter on the > same physican drive can actually slow things down noticeably. Get your > facts straight, poser! Ummm, if you actually read what I wrote, I said keep it there on the same drive - the system drive (and partition), and nothing about "moving it to a different drive letter". Reading 101.
Guest Ray Parrish Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive Gee, that's funny as I have used it for exactly that purpose on my machine with no problems. If you'll read the stuff you pasted in from GParted it says "normally not re-sizable" [implied "without their software"] and "the purpose of GParted is to *allow* [snip] change the partition" in other words GParted does just that, it allows you to re-size partitions. Any good partition manager will do this as well. Partition Magic is one from Symantec, but it's not free. Later, Ray Parrish Bill wrote: > Ray, > It doesn't appear that GParted will solve my problem, in > that what I need to do is what GParted says can't normally > be done. I.e., make one partition larger while making the > adjacent partition smaller. > > From GParted: > A hard disk is usually subdivided into one or more partitions. > These partitions are normally not re-sizable (making one smaller > and the adjacent one larger). The purpose of GParted is to allow > the individual to take a hard disk and change the partition > organization therein, while preserving the partition contents. > > Bill > > > > "Ray Parrish" <crp@cmc.net> wrote in message > news:esserhLOJHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Why not just re-size the partitions... Get the GParted Live CD image from >> the following link and burn it to CD. Now boot from it and you will be >> able to use GParted to do a non-destructive re-sizing of your partitions. >> >> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php >> >> Later, Ray Parrish >> >> Bill wrote: >>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an >>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) >>> partition small enough to be in a condition where >>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a >>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of >>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the >>> Registry and a re-boot? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bill >> -- >> http://www.rayslinks.com/ Web index of human reviewed links. >> <http://www.rayslinks.com/Troubleshooting%20and%20fixing%20Windows.html> >> Trouble shooting and Fixing Windows >> http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com My poetry in web pages > > -- http://www.rayslinks.com/ Web index of human reviewed links. <http://www.rayslinks.com/Troubleshooting%20and%20fixing%20Windows.html> Trouble shooting and Fixing Windows http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com My poetry in web pages
Guest Ray Parrish Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive You must be reading some old documentation, as I have a 160gb hard drive and have used Partition Magic on it with no problems. Later, Ray Parrish Bill wrote: > Bill, > "partition Magic" documentation indicates it has a > limit of 80GB HDA's. Mine is 120GB. They also > want $70 for their package, an amount that would > be too much to pay for a one-time fix. > Thanks, > Bill > > > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:OKIuNiLOJHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main >> system partition (C:). Why can't you run a Defrag on that partition? But >> of course you can always resize the partitions, if desired, with something >> like Partition Magic. >> >> Bill wrote: >>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an >>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) >>> partition small enough to be in a condition where >>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a >>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of >>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the >>> Registry and a re-boot? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bill >> > > -- http://www.rayslinks.com/ Web index of human reviewed links. <http://www.rayslinks.com/Troubleshooting%20and%20fixing%20Windows.html> Trouble shooting and Fixing Windows http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com My poetry in web pages
Guest Gerry Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive Bill "One thing I stumbled upon was an enormous "Temp" folder in the users "Local Settings", like 2GB. What's with that? Those files didn't seem to be associated with temporary Internet files that "Connecticut" purges on a regular basis." These files exist in all User Profiles so you may need to log in to each User Profile and run Disk CleanUp where more than one user profile is in use. An alternative to Disk CleanUp is cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp. Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user profile, whereas cCleaner only needs to be run once. http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp http://www.ccleaner.com/ With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also offers backup before removal. When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can easily be re-entered. Leave the Scan for Issues option alone. cCleaner does not remove restore points. You need to use Disk CleanUp for this. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill wrote: > "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message > news:eKAViJROJHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an >>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) >>> partition small enough to be in a condition where >>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a >>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of >>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the >>> Registry and a re-boot? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bill >> >> You use a selection in options, amongst other ways, to move or size >> the pagefile. However, moving the pagefile to another drive letter >> on the same physical drive is most likely going to cause a >> noticeable and *annoying* slowdown in your machine. >> If that's acceptable, use: >> Start; Settings; control panel; and click on System icon. >> Then choose the Advance tab, and click the top Settings button in the >> Performance rectangle. >> In Settings Performance Options, in the Virtual Memory rectangle, >> click on Change. >> Now select the drive you want, and click Let Windows Manage ... , >> click SET. >> Select drive C, and set it for NO swap file. Click SET >> N O T E : If you don't click SET, nothing happens. YOu must click >> SET for EACH drive you change!! >> >> OK your way out and restart. >> -------------------- >> >> You could also simply kill the pagefile and restart before doing a >> defrag. ------------------- >> >> But neither of those are very good solutions and at best are simply >> bandaids to cover up a problem. >> You really need a larger hard drive. Hard drives are very cheap >> these days and getting a second one is your absolute best solution >> long term. Right now you have zero room for any kind of expansion on >> your boot drive. NOTHING here or in any of the posts so far is going >> to give you anything but a temporary respite from your problems. >> UNLESS you have gobs of room on the second partition. But you >> didn't give any details so I'm not going to guess at what other >> solutions may be viable. When you provide usable information then >> more functional answers can be provided. >> >> -- >> >> How to Post a newsgroup >> question effectively: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q555375 > > The drive is 120GB. And yes, there's "gobs of room" on the 2nd > partition. I'm in California and the "offending" computer is in > Connecticut, so I'm not in a position to resolve the problem more > appropriately. I've managed to help "Connecticut" to move every > non-system folder to their larger partition so that ONLY system files > "come and go" on their "C" drive. We finally got the > "C" partition defragged to where there's 1.88GB free and we'll see how > things > go. > > One thing I stumbled upon was an enormous "Temp" folder in the users > "Local Settings", like 2GB. What's with that? Those files didn't seem > to be associated with > temporary Internet files that "Connecticut" purges on a regular > basis. It would seem, > by definition, that those files could be deleted when there were no > applications > running, save system oriented processes. > > Thanks, > Bill
Guest Bill Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:eKAViJROJHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an >> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:) >> partition small enough to be in a condition where >> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a >> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of >> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the >> Registry and a re-boot? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Bill > > You use a selection in options, amongst other ways, to move or size the > pagefile. However, moving the pagefile to another drive letter on the > same physical drive is most likely going to cause a noticeable and > *annoying* slowdown in your machine. > If that's acceptable, use: > Start; Settings; control panel; and click on System icon. > Then choose the Advance tab, and click the top Settings button in the > Performance rectangle. > In Settings Performance Options, in the Virtual Memory rectangle, click on > Change. > Now select the drive you want, and click Let Windows Manage ... , click > SET. > Select drive C, and set it for NO swap file. Click SET > N O T E : If you don't click SET, nothing happens. YOu must click SET for > EACH drive you change!! > > OK your way out and restart. > -------------------- > > You could also simply kill the pagefile and restart before doing a defrag. > ------------------- > > But neither of those are very good solutions and at best are simply > bandaids to cover up a problem. > You really need a larger hard drive. Hard drives are very cheap these > days and getting a second one is your absolute best solution long term. > Right now you have zero room for any kind of expansion on your boot drive. > NOTHING here or in any of the posts so far is going to give you anything > but a temporary respite from your problems. > UNLESS you have gobs of room on the second partition. But you didn't > give any details so I'm not going to guess at what other solutions may be > viable. When you provide usable information then more functional answers > can be provided. > > -- > > How to Post a newsgroup > question effectively: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q555375 > Thanks so much for your help. I think we now have enough space on "c" to keep the "ship afloat". Bill
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