Johng Posted October 4, 2012 Posted October 4, 2012 Hi all I have a PC running XP Home I have fitted a new drive and want to install XP onto it My first thought was disconnect old drive boot from CD and install Then I thought I might end up with two C: drives I really want my old drive out of harms way before new install just in case What is best way to proceed with this? TIA Quote
Durks Posted October 4, 2012 Posted October 4, 2012 I'm not entirely sure what your plan is. Are you planning to keep both drives in your computer? Use the new one and keep the old for safe keeping (back up)? If i can understand what your planning to do i can help you out. Quote
Plastic Nev Posted October 4, 2012 Posted October 4, 2012 Hi and welcome to Extreme Tech Support - Free PC Help. As Durks asked, we could do with a little more information as to what is the reason for changing hard drives? If it is to increase the storage by fitting a larger drive but the old drive still works OK, I can recommend creating a system image to transfer to the new drive, which although similar to a new install in one sense, it will also transfer everything on to the new drive in one go. Please let us know a bit more as to why you are changing and we can help further. Nev. Quote Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here. If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members. Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I have installed Windows, now how do I install the curtains? 😄
KenB Posted October 4, 2012 Posted October 4, 2012 Just to add my welcome ( and my two-pennyworth ) :) It is never a good idea to keep the second drive ( not the main drive ) connected when installing a new OS. Just have the master drive connected > then connect the second drive after installation. Are these IDE Drives ( broad grey cable ) ? Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Johng Posted October 5, 2012 Author Posted October 5, 2012 Just to add my welcome ( and my two-pennyworth ) :) It is never a good idea to keep the second drive ( not the main drive ) connected when installing a new OS. Just have the master drive connected > then connect the second drive after installation. Are these IDE Drives ( broad grey cable ) ? No they are Sata II As to reasons for changing Old drive has been running for 5yrs OS has become less and less stable and slow So I want a clean install of XP on new drive and then will format old drive as extra storage But I want to keep the old drive as a bootable backup for the moment in case install goes wrong Hope this makes things clearer Nev Durks and KenB Quote
Johng Posted October 5, 2012 Author Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) Hi all Sorry forgot my manners in previous post thanks for the welcomes PS should I not have received email telling of these replies Edited October 5, 2012 by Johng Quote
KenB Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Hi, Take the old drive out and put the new one in. Install XP on the new drive. You will need to format and decide how many partitions you want on the new drive. If you create more than one partition make sure you install XP onto C: When you connect the old drive again ( you now have 2 drives connected ) you may be prompted on boot-up to select the drive to boot from. If you want to leave Windows on the old disk you should be able to select the New drive in the BIOS as the first in the boot order. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
RandyL Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Hi John. PS should I not have received email telling of these replies Click on "Thread tools" and select "Subscribe to this thread". Quote We are all members helping other members. Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.Get help with computer problems. Join Free PC Help here Donations are welcome. Read Here
KenB Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Hi John I have changed your profile to "Instant email Notification" - hope this works for you. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
KenB Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Have you managed to install the OS on the new drive and format the old one ? Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Johng Posted October 7, 2012 Author Posted October 7, 2012 Have you managed to install the OS on the new drive and format the old one ? Not yet I am awating a DVD drive old one is knackered Why ? Do you foresee a problem ? John Quote
KenB Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 No - not at all. With you saying "Thanks all" I thought you may have fixed it :) Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Johng Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 Hi all I am back needing help I have finally got round to doing this but not going well I have disconnected old drive Set bios to boot from cd Am stuck at 'Setup is inspecting your computer's hardware configuration...' Any help appreciated Quote
Johng Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 Hi I cant seem to edit my post But instal is not sticking at inspecting now goes to blue screen with 'Windows Setup' at top 'Press F6 if you need to install a third party SCSI or RAID driver...' at bottom Quote
KenB Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Is your hard drive SATA ? Does the blue screen suggest that the installation could not determine the type of mass storage device ? Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Johng Posted October 24, 2012 Author Posted October 24, 2012 Hi I have managed to get through the install I now have 2 drives with XP on them I need to work between them for now Going into BIOS to change boot drive is a pain Is there anyway I can get them to offer a choice at bootup? TIA Quote
KenB Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 I now have 2 drives with XP on them It sounds as if the drive was not formatted but you elected to have another version of XP installed alongside the first. Going into BIOS to change boot drive is a pain Do you have to go into the BIOS before you can boot up the machine? If so - what do you do each time ? Can you post a copy of the BOOT.INI file please. Start > Run .....type in .....msconfig ......Enter Click on "BOOT.INI" from the tabs along the top. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Johng Posted October 25, 2012 Author Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Hi I went with your post #7 No I dont have to go into bios to boot only to choose boot order I have a boot.ini on each drive What I need at the moment is some form of dual boot Thanks Edited October 25, 2012 by Johng Quote
KenB Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 I have fitted a new drive and want to install XP onto it This is what confused me from your first post. I have a boot.ini on each drive So - you have 2 drives installed with XP on each. What I need at the moment is some form of dual boot How are the drives connected ? IDE / SATA ? Both on the same IDE cable ? One as Master other as Slave ? When you boot up off the main drive ( C: ? ) what drive letter is allocated to the other drive ? I still think you need to alter the BOOT.INI of the primary drive. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Johng Posted October 25, 2012 Author Posted October 25, 2012 This is what confused me from your first post. So - you have 2 drives installed with XP on each. How are the drives connected ? IDE / SATA ? Both on the same IDE cable ? One as Master other as Slave ? When you boot up off the main drive ( C: ? ) what drive letter is allocated to the other drive ? I still think you need to alter the BOOT.INI of the primary drive. Hi As I have said before my drives are SATA Depends what you mean by main drive The old drive still has C: when I boot from that the new drive is K: When I boot from the new drive it is H: not sure what the old drive shows then Do you want to see the boot.ini files from both? I am pretty sure both will be identical and refer to a partition 1 Quote
Johng Posted October 25, 2012 Author Posted October 25, 2012 Hi Here are the ini files Apart from Timeout they look identical Boot.ini New Drive [boot loader] timeout=1 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect Boot.ini Old Drive [boot Loader] Timeout=30 Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [Operating Systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT Thanks Quote
KenB Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 As I have said before my drives are SATA This is getting to be a long thread - sometimes it is easier to ask than to read the whole thread again just in case the question has been asked before. With SATA - if there are 2 Operating Systems to choose from normally you will be given a choice. From what you say this doesn't appear to be happening. The "Timeout" in the first ( New Drive ) BOOT.INI is 1. If this is the first in the boot order it will only wait for a second before loading that one. Is this what is happening ? Also both Operating Systems are "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" - which is the default. The second may need to be changed. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Johng Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 This is getting to be a long thread - sometimes it is easier to ask than to read the whole thread again just in case the question has been asked before. Well you had asked this before and I had answered With SATA - if there are 2 Operating Systems to choose from normally you will be given a choice. From what you say this doesn't appear to be happening. Sorry I dont think this is correct but am happy to be proved wrong could you elucidate The "Timeout" in the first ( New Drive ) BOOT.INI is 1. If this is the first in the boot order it will only wait for a second before loading that one. Is this what is happening ? No it is booting from the drive with 30 sec timeout Also both Operating Systems are "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" - which is the default. The second may need to be changed. This is just text technically does not mean a thing Thanks Quote
KenB Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Well you had asked this before and I had answered I asked it again - and explained why ! You need to add a line to the BOOT.INI of the old drive if this is first in the boot order. But you seem to know more than I do - so I will leave it in your capable hands. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
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