Please Help ME

[freaky]

Please Answer Me Soon !!

I Want To Play Modern Games Like Battlefield And Call Of Duty , GTA 4 ..

But My Pc Sucks And i Want To Get Suggestions That What Graphics card should i buy and will i need to change my processor and do i need to buy a new PCU(Power Supply)

 

Here Are The Links Of My Pc Specs

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8659/computer1p.jpg

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http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8242/computer6.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4947/computer8.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9475/computer9l.jpg

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3662/computer10.jpg

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/7273/computer11.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/183/computer12.jpg

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[KenB]

Hi and welcome to ExTS

 

I am not a gamer - so advice will be limited to what I know.

 

You only have on-board graphics at the moment ....so you are right - you will need a Video Card upgrade if you want to play games.

I looked up the system specs for GTA4.

A reasonable ( better than minimum ) Video Card suggested was GeForce 8600 GTS with 512mb on-board memory.

This would need at least 350 Watt PSU.

 

Changing the CPU would probably not give you much of a boost.

Your motherboard socket is 775 which means that you can only use 775 compatible CPUs.

(a little dated now)

 

From your data sheets - it looks like the max RAM supported by the m/board is 2GB.

It also looks as if you have 2 x 1GB modules already ......so you cannot add more RAM.

 

It would help if you could post the make and model number of your computer as I couldn't get a specific motherboard / case for you.

If your case is non-standard then it may not even be possible to upgrade the PSU to accommodate a new Video Card.

[freaky]

so u mean my processor is okay and i just need to change my video card and u think that the geforce 8600gts will be fitted in my pc slots because ive heard from many other forums that my graphics card can be replace with another PCI-express x16 graphics card and for the ram if i remove the 2x 1 gb ram and add 2x 2gp ram will it work ..

 

and i will be opening my case some day soon and i will post the pics here so you can take a look and btw im not a computer expert dont know much about pc ( my question : is CPU the Processor)

 

well its been 6 years since i buyed this pc and i was a kid at that time and i dont know what is the model number on my computer/motherboard

so can you please tell me where i can find the name of the motherboard and the pc

 

my pc is levono

 

ill keep you informed as soon as i open my pc case !

thanks for you help ! reply soon !

[freaky]

so i founded a software and i found the model

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/3938/model1b.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5866/model2i.jpg

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7290/model3j.jpg

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5818/model4s.jpg

 

please tell fi this helped and the PCU will be posted soon also !

[KenB]

so u mean my processor is okay

I mean that you cannot put a modern i5 or i7 processor in your motherboard as the socket types are different ( pin configuration ).

 

if i remove the 2x 1 gb ram and add 2x 2gp ram will it work ..

No.

Your motherboard ( according to the specs below ) can only support a maximun of 2 GB.

( You have an old system )

 

system specs click here

 

The only things you can do to improve your gaming ability ( and the lack of RAM and CPU speed will limit this ) is to add a Video Card as I said before.

Some games specify a minimum system RAM - your 2GB will limit ( or slow down ) the games you can play.

 

Your motherboard is a mico-ATX ( much smaller than standard )

This may limit your choice of Video Card to low-profile - depending on the space inside the case.

 

From the specs I found - the PSU is either 220 or 280 Watts.

This is too small to run a Video Card.

The size of PSU ( Watts) needs to be matched to the Card that you select.

I cannot see, at the moment, if the PSU is standard ATX or not.

If you can provide some information on that from the label on the PSU itself this would help.

 

To put this bluntly - your system was never designed for modern games and it is so old you are going to be limited as to what you can do to improve "gaming" on it.

You will never be able to cope with high-end games due to the motherboard limitations.

[freaky]

well thanks

 

since i got all the other information ,

about processor and ram and also the CPU the power supply

i have a 220watt power supply a

and i have found a low profile graphics card that required on 75 watt power supply that mean i can run that card

all i need to know is that will that graphics card fit in the motherboard/the slots

 

here is the card i want to buy :

http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/ENGT430DI1GD3LP/#specifications

 

and here is the motherboard picture :

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8412/dsc0031rl.jpg

 

thanks please reply soon !

[Vr5fx]

To put this bluntly - your system was never designed for modern games and it is so old you are going to be limited as to what you can do to improve "gaming" on it.

You will never be able to cope with high-end games due to the motherboard limitations.

 

I agree completely with KenB. Your system will not be able to handle recent, or to date games.

 

If your looking to buy a new PC for gaming, you are looking at around £500 upwards, the more you spend, the better and longer your system will stay "up to par" with recent gaming.

 

Sorry for the bad news.

 

Vr

[freaky]

well i know my pc sucks for recent games

but if i can have that graphics card then i can play low-end games without lag because the current graphics card i have sucks really hard ..

please just tell me if the graphics card is pci express x16 or what !

[KenB]

i have found a low profile graphics card that required on 75 watt power supply

I think you are confusing the card's specific power requirements with the overall system power requirements.

up to 75W no additional PCIe power required

This refers to the card's power requirements.

This needs to be added to what you have already so you are probably looking at 300 - 350 Watts PSU.

 

please just tell me if the graphics card is pci express x16 or what !

That card is a PCIe x 16 card.

 

It looks like you have a PCIe slot - the long brown one ( can't see the end of it ).

You would need to re-route the wires.

 

We still have no information to say if your PSU is a standard ATX one - this will need to be changed whatever card you buy.

[freaky]

heres a picture of the psu label

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8706/dsc0029mq.jpg

[freaky]

i gues i can run a better game with [h=1]Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E8600

(6M Cache, 3.33 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)[/h]and ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 1GB Video Card Unboxing and Review (ENGT430)

with 500+ watt power supply or 220 watt power supply

and 2gp ram i guess i cant upgrade my ram to 8 gp because of the mother board !

because i bet i can change my current processor to this one . and ive seen people playing game on meduim setting with that processor

and ive seen youtube videos with taht graphics card playing gta iv and battlefield 3......

[freaky]

got it wrong lol

 

u were talking about the graphics card

u were saying about this :up to 75W no additional PCIe power required

This refers to the card's power requirements.

This needs to be added to what you have already so you are probably looking at 300 - 350 Watts PSU.

but as far as i know i dont need a 300-350 watt power supply for it because of the video in youtube

the computer experts say you dont need any addictional power supply to run this card ..

or i got you wrong just want to make sure that are you saying that i need 300-350 watt power supply to run this graphics card !

 

Edited December 27, 2012 by freaky

[RandyL]

My thoughts on this is it's a waste of money.

 

Windows 8 minimum requirements are;

RAM 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit)

 

Now any time Microsoft lists the minimums it's a safe bet you will need to double it just for ordinary computing. So even if you have a 32 bit system your maxed out in my opinion. This leaves little or no RAM for even ordinary gaming. And you can't add RAM. This is your biggest hurdle.

 

That card is best suited for home theater not gaming. You will need an upgraded PSU.

 

Your CPU is OK but not great so that will affect things too.

 

Best bet;

New MOBO.

New CPU to go with that MOBO.

New RAM to go with that MOBO.

Better Video card.

Bigger PSU.

 

I almost forgot. With a new MOBO you will need to reinstall Windows. If all you have are recovery disks then you will need to purchase the full Windows 8 too.

[freaky]

okay

 

well windows 8 take most of the ram

then how about if i change to my current windows vista home basic because when i buyed the pc it had windows vista home basic

[freaky]

and how to check

 

and howto check what is the model/brand of my MOBO

and any suggestion on what other MOBOwill it in my pc

my pc is lenovo 3000 s200

[freaky]

and i used a software and it says

Motherboard Properties

Motherboard ID: UNKNOWN

Motherboard Name : UNKNOWN

[freaky]

i guess

 

and i guess this is my mother board name LENOVO-9684a24

dont know it the name or what !

please help me get a better MOBO

but please dont be too expensive

it will be fine if it have a 4gb -8gb ram space

nevermind about the processor and graphics card i can get a new one with that

please be cheap as you can to find out the prices please

[RandyL]

Buy a new computer is my point. Even in China you can't get the components to do what you want with this system without a total rebuild.

 

The advice given so far by everyone says give it up.

 

The case, fans and optical drives are the the only things you can salvage so what is the point in trying to upgrade components?

 

Write it off and buy a new computer.

 

Or do this:

 

New MOBO.

New CPU to go with that MOBO.

New RAM to go with that MOBO.

Better Video card.

Bigger PSU.

 

As I said before.

 

If you are not willing to do all of the above then we can not help. You can not rebuild a cheap computer for a few dollars.

 

Case closed.

[freaky]

lol any suggestions

 

as u told me to buy a new MOBO

i asked some MOBO suggestions that would fir into my computer case lol !

[freaky]

And I can you also give me the mobo size that would fit it to my pc

And some recommended mobos please

Thanks

[Vr5fx]

We are trying to help. I am a gamer, and I am in agreement to what Randy and Ken are saying.

 

A motherboard for gaming would probably mean a new PC case. Even if you could get a motherboard to fit, you couldn't get a decent graphics card that is half size and low profile. Airflow would be a problem in your current case and may cause more harm than good.

I'm going to tell you the size of my PC case.

Depth 500mm

Width 215mm

Height 480mm

It's big, doesn't even fit in my desk, it houses 6 120mm fans, 7 including the one in the power supply.

 

This is a link to an AVERAGE gaming PC. It will play recent games on at least medium to high.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Z77-I5-3450-Windows-7-Gaming-PC-1tb-8gb-1600mhz-GTX-660-2gb-Apollo-/150951097891?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item232562f623

 

I bought my original PC from these peeps so I do recommend them.

 

-Vr

[freaky]

well thanks for your advice

and as i not that rich ive choosen a new pc

http://www.dell.com/hk/en/p/alienware-x51/pd

i guess it can run modern games in low settings !

please give comments on how the pc is !

and THANKS for using all my money on this new pc(ive been saving for 1 years lol)

THANKS

[freaky]

or i guess this will be more better and cheaper

http://asia.playstation.com/hk/en/ps3/consoleDetail/296020

[KenB]

Hi

Sorry for the late reply - I have been away for a few days.

 

you dont need any addictional power supply to run this card ..

Let me explain this comment.

Some Video Cards need a power connection direct to the card in the form of a 6 pin PCIe power connection.

When it is suggested that the card does not need any additional power it is this 6 pin connection that is being referred to.

By adding a Video Card to your system it takes power to run it.

This, obviously, is in addition to the existing system requirements that are provided by the 220 Watts - hence my estimate of 300 - 350 Watts.

 

You will net be able to run this card with your present 220 Watt PSU.

 

Lenovo - 220 Watt PSU.

Is this your PSU ?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]928.vB5-legacyid=1811[/ATTACH]

 

If it is it is not a standard ATX.

A standard ATX unit looks like this:

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]929.vB5-legacyid=1812[/ATTACH]

They are not compatible.

I doubt that you will find a 350 Watt replacement for your present PSU.

[freaky]

i guess you are not mixing this 2 card together ..

http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/ENGT430DI1GD3LP/

and

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-430