Ray1000 Posted June 7, 2014 Author Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) As you can tell I haven't got the hang of the Albums and Photos yet ...:o I was trying to show you the WAN section of the set up as I'm not sure if I have the connection type set properly. http://extremetechsupport.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2228&thumb=1&d=1402172377 http://extremetechsupport.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2227&thumb=1&d=1402172361 "I still don't have the capacity for connecting to WiFi from the conservatory for instance ... I have to be physically nearer to R1 than R2 to do the initial connection" This is the only difference now, to a month ago ... I double-checked this with my son today ... he would come home from work, turn his Galaxy Note on in the conservatory and connect wirelessly via R2 ... now he needs to go into the room containing Router 1 ... connect via wireless ... go back into the conservatory and use the 5 bar wireless signal coming from R2. Thanks for your patience :) Ray Edited June 7, 2014 by Ray1000 Quote
seedy21 Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 Hi Ray Looks like you didn't follow my steps correctly Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-00-95-33-95 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::d10e:7268:9697:88bc%12(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 04 June 2014 09:00:45 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 05 June 2014 09:00:46 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::1%12 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 268443904 DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1A-E7-11-70-00-22-64-77-52-C0 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® 82562GT 10/100 Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-77-52-C0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes 1). Your Wi-fi was turned on when you ran the test 2). Your Ethernet cable didn't look like it was connected. Please run the test again with the WI-FI on the laptop turned off and with a wire going from R2 to the Laptop. Did you delete the images above. When I went to view them they say invalid Photo links again Thank you Seedy21 Quote “It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.”― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club http://www.geekstogo.com/downloads/unite_blue.png Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Ray1000 Posted June 7, 2014 Author Posted June 7, 2014 Sorry about that I'll have another go ... There's a wireless switch on the laptop that I assumed turned it off, I'll make certain it won't connect wirelessly first this time. Hopefully the pictures are back on ... I removed - cropped - and replaced them ... I Hope! Ray Quote
seedy21 Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 Hi Ray looks like you fixed the Pictures problem. Just some more questions When you connected to R2 is it still on the same manual address we gave it? I think it was 192.168.1.2 ? On your settings it looks like they is a Bridge option. Go back to the R2 WAN Settings page. Under PPPoA Make sure WAN Connection is Unticked. Under Bridge mode, Mark sure Port binding as LAN 1 or LAN 2 selected on with Port the Cable from R1 to R2 is on . Also make sure DHCP transparent tranmisson is checked. Save the settings and reboot R2. Can you test after this? Quote “It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.”― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club http://www.geekstogo.com/downloads/unite_blue.png Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Ray1000 Posted June 7, 2014 Author Posted June 7, 2014 Hi Seedy, I may have to leave those checks while tomorrow ... its my turn to get the supper ready! ... in the meantime here's another log ... everything wireless in our house was off including the wireless switch on the laptop ... having said that in the notification bar at the bottom right it did say there was an unknown connection ... I assumed it meant the physical connection between the laptop and the R2 router via Ethernet cable. The ADSL wasn't connected by the way ... not sure if it needed to be. Ray Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Jack-PC Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-00-95-33-95 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® 82562GT 10/100 Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-77-52-C0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4d21:9138:79d1:de1b%10(Preferred) Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.222.27(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{0956FAA2-4E53-411A-9EB4-615404C440D2} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{DEF04CD5-30C7-454A-84E1-564504DEF5C4} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Quote
Ray1000 Posted June 7, 2014 Author Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) The ip address for the R2 is 192.168.1.7 set manually the other day. The same address is set as a static one on R1 using the MAC address to identify it ... (if I'm using the right terms) Just going to have a quick go at the Bridge setting ... Edit .... I'll have a look in the morning ... the boxes in Bridge are untickable at the moment ... It may be I have missed a submit button or something Ray Edited June 7, 2014 by Ray1000 Quote
seedy21 Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 That log explains the problem so far. Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® 82562GT 10/100 Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-77-52-C0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4d21:9138:79d1:de1b%10(Preferred) Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.222.27(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled This would explain why you have a WI-FI connection, but no Internet. The DHCP settings are not getting to R2. Try with the New settings I asked and let me know how it goes. its my turn to get the supper ready! Enjoy cooking :) Quote “It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.”― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club http://www.geekstogo.com/downloads/unite_blue.png Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Ray1000 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Posted June 8, 2014 Go back to the R2 WAN Settings page. Under PPPoA Make sure WAN Connection is Unticked. Under Bridge mode' date=' Mark sure Port binding as LAN 1 or LAN 2 selected on with Port the Cable from R1 to R2 is on . Also make sure DHCP transparent tranmisson is checked. Save the settings and reboot R2. Can you test after this?[/quote'] Had another go at this ... Under PPPoA Make sure WAN Connection is Unticked ... That is straightforward. Under Bridge mode, Mark sure Port binding as LAN 1 or LAN 2 selected on with Port the Cable from R1 to R2 is on . Also make sure DHCP transparent transmission is checked ... I understand this but there are no options to tick any of the boxes ... apart from another WAN connection box in the Bridge page which doesn't make any difference ... the boxes I'm wanting to tick are in grey. Ray Quote
seedy21 Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Hi Ray. Can you run that Command with the cable that joins R1 to R2 in the laptop with the wi-fi off? I am thinking that you can't run the bridge mode. It looks to be locked out by the software. Quote “It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.”― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club http://www.geekstogo.com/downloads/unite_blue.png Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Ray1000 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Posted June 8, 2014 Can you run that Command with the cable that joins R1 to R2 in the laptop with the wi-fi off? Hi Seedy, This probably tells you something but no the laptop can't connect to the R2 down the 10 metre cable between R1 and R2 it just says web page unavailable. I'm just trying some thing else .... Here is a log we'll refer to as from the White Router ... I'm posting it now while I have the laptop connected ... will come back to it shortly. Ray Quote
Ray1000 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Posted June 8, 2014 Ooops ... Back on the desktop now ... I can see the log didn't paste ... will have to do that again later. I have a White Router Dlink DSL2680 ... Connected it to the laptop changed the usernames and passwords to match R1 - Chose Bridge Mode -changed the IP address to 192.168.1.7 - Disabled DHCP server - Changed wireless channel to 11 to match R1 - Made a cmd log at this point but evidently didn't paste it into the previous post ... now lost, or will it still be on the laptop Notepad? Turned the routers off and back on. Connected the White Router to the Ethernet cable in the lounge and ... You can now log on in the lounge/conservatory/garden using the White R2 :) As you walk towards R1 the wireless signal diminishes :( It may have always been like this ... I never took notice before. If you log on near R1 and walk through the hall/kitchen/conservatory and into the garden the wireless signal stays, and increases as you pass R2 :) I haven't gone back into R1 and reset the Static IP as I wasn't sure about the MAC address of the white router ... it says MAC ID BCF685ADE0DA on the back, presumably this is it? Are there any useful logs I can do while its all connected/ Ray Quote
Ray1000 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Posted June 8, 2014 I think this is the log I made of the White Router while connected to the laptop with the wireless turned off.(Mentioned above) Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Jack-PC Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : dlink.com Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-00-95-33-95 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : dlink.com Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® 82562GT 10/100 Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-77-52-C0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4d21:9138:79d1:de1b%10(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 08 June 2014 20:12:26 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 09 June 2014 20:12:25 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : dlink.com Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{DEF04CD5-30C7-454A-84E1-564504DEF5C4} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Quote
seedy21 Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 HI Ray That log looks good. Cant see any bad problems there. Looks like you may have to keep the White Router if this has fixed your problem :) Quote “It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.”― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club http://www.geekstogo.com/downloads/unite_blue.png Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Ray1000 Posted June 11, 2014 Author Posted June 11, 2014 I thought I would give this a couple of days just to make sure it continued to work properly. There's a detail I need help with just to finish it off ... In the DSL3780 Advanced LAN Setup page under the DHCP Table heading I still have 192.168.1.7 ( Secondary router IP address ) statically attached to the previous R2 routers MAC address. I wanted to changed this to reflect the MAC address of the new White Router but there doesn't seem to be a way of deleting the old entry. The table seems to allocate the next address, in my case 192.168.1.10 to any new MAC I realise I could do that and then change the IP of the R2 to match but wondered if there was a way to keep it at 7 Or ... is it that now we are in Bride mode the Static address no longer applies? Ray Quote
seedy21 Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 HI Ray Can you change the Mac Address that is attach to the reserve on 192.168.1.7? If not, I think i would recommend leaving it where it is. A quote comes to mind..... If it ain't broken, don't fix it. Seedy21 Quote “It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.”― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club http://www.geekstogo.com/downloads/unite_blue.png Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Ray1000 Posted June 12, 2014 Author Posted June 12, 2014 Hi Seedy, There's an interesting conversation about the problem on ... http://talktalkmembers.com/t5/Unlimited-Broadband/Edit-Delete-DHCP-Table-entry-on-D-Link-2780/td-p/738597 It includes the obscure way of changing it at the bottom of the page ... and it works:) I just need to type out the procedure for two routers using the Bridge method for future reference to finish the thread off. Thank you again for all your help. Ray Quote
seedy21 Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Thank you again for all your help. That's what we're here for :) Ill update the topic as solved. Feel free to add your solution to the thread Edited June 13, 2014 by seedy21 Quote “It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.”― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club http://www.geekstogo.com/downloads/unite_blue.png Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
KenB Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 I't great when a thread comes together :) [ATTACH=CONFIG]1227.vB5-legacyid=2234[/ATTACH] Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
Ray1000 Posted June 13, 2014 Author Posted June 13, 2014 :) Now the R2 MAC address is reserved/static in R1 the system works fully in both directions ... using a mobile device you can connect via WiFi in either location and it changes over seamlessly as you near the other router. Setting up a second router to extend wireless range (Bridge Mode Method) With the PC connected via Ethernet cable to the Primary Router (R1) Type 192.168.1.1 in address bar Username = admin ... Password = admin Take note of the Broadband Username and Password Take note of the Wireless username and Password Set the Wireless Channel to 11 (Or your preference) Turn the R1 off and disconnect from the PC Connect Secondary Router (R2) to the PC via cable and turn on. Type 192.168.1.1 in address bar Username = admin, Password = admin. In Status take note of the Physical Address XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX (Mac Address) In Advanced > Wireless Setup > Manual Setup ... Set the Wireless Channel to the same as R1 Set theWireless username and Password same as R1 In Advanced >ADSL Setup ... Choose Bridge Mode In Basic > LAN > DHCP change LAN Host Setting IP address to 192.168.1.7 Save Settings at each change In DHCP Server on the same page disable DHCP Server Clicked submit ... the Internet connection will be lost at this point Disconnect R2 (Secondary Router) from the PC Connect the Primary Router (R1) to the PC Set R2 up in its new position and connect LAN1 on R1 to LAN1 on R2 Turn both routers on. Typed 192.168.1.1 in address bar Username = admin ... Password = admin Click Advanced Click OK In Set up > LAN Set up DCHP table In IP Address choose 192.168.1.7 In MAC Address type XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX (Physical Address from line 11) In Status choose Static > Choose Add/Apply Turn everything off > Turn everything on after a minute or so. Job done. I happen to choose 7 in the IP address but it could be anything in the range Different routers will have different setup pages. Some routers may not have a Bridge mode option The routers used in this case were (R1) DLink DSL3780 and (R2) DLink DSL2680 Ray Quote
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