matt1295 Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 hoping that this section is correct it all started when my MSI used live update to update everything and it wanted me to reboot so i did and then it went off and when it tryed to turn back on it has not worked since my problem is i turn the pc on and the cpu fans spin case led lights work cpu gets a little luke warm not any warmer wouldnt even call it luke warm i get no picture no beeps (dnt see a speaker or pins for one) i have in the last 3 days replaced the Motherboard and Psu re thermal the cpu to have the same problem on the new MB i have only the CPU and ram left to check i have this problem is really starting to bug me as theres lots of info with similer problems and none of theres has cured mine i have also replaced the Cmos battery in both MB am i right in thinking it has to be the CPU or RAM they are the only things to have changed over from the old MB all help is greatly received and im hoping to cure it asap as im in hospital on monday and would like to get some stuff on my ipad ready for my stay so im not bord haha have also taken the MB out and sat on my wooden table and tryed to boot but nothing previous MB was a MSI 7721 new MB is a gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H processor is a A10-6800k quadcore 1 stick of 8gb ram PSU now a consair cx600 hoping some one can help im sort of desperate for it working Quote
Plastic Nev Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Hi and welcome to Extreme Tech Support - Free PC Help. You haven't mentioned the hard drive and there may be a problem getting Windows to boot with the new motherboard, however we can get to that after we can get something to happen. As you say, other than the hard drive there is only the RAM and CPU, and a bit of a shame the RAM is only one stick, so the only sure way is to either find a compatible computer and try the RAM in that, or replace it. The other thing being the CPU are you quite sure it fitted the socket,OK, while it was out did you make sure there were no bent pins or pins missing? I.E. maybe one broke and left inside the old socket! The fact that it all died just after an update, makes me a little suspicious of the hard drive though. So I suggest that you disconnect it both power leads and data, and leave the rest on, including keyboard and monitor, then push the power button and straight away start tapping the F2 key, (if that is the one for the BIOS) and lets see if it will at least get some BIOS pages load. Let us know how you get on with that. Nev. Quote Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here. If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members. Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I have installed Windows, now how do I install the curtains? 😄
matt1295 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 Hi and welcome to Extreme Tech Support - Free PC Help. You haven't mentioned the hard drive and there may be a problem getting Windows to boot with the new motherboard, however we can get to that after we can get something to happen. As you say, other than the hard drive there is only the RAM and CPU, and a bit of a shame the RAM is only one stick, so the only sure way is to either find a compatible computer and try the RAM in that, or replace it. The other thing being the CPU are you quite sure it fitted the socket,OK, while it was out did you make sure there were no bent pins or pins missing? I.E. maybe one broke and left inside the old socket! The fact that it all died just after an update, makes me a little suspicious of the hard drive though. So I suggest that you disconnect it both power leads and data, and leave the rest on, including keyboard and monitor, then push the power button and straight away start tapping the F2 key, (if that is the one for the BIOS) and lets see if it will at least get some BIOS pages load. Let us know how you get on with that. Nev. the hard drive was a SSD 240gb but when i connected it all back together i didnt connect it back up and wanted to Bios and do a fresh install so that the HDD didnt load any old stuff i also get no screen for anything to happen when i press the DEL nothing more happens once it went off after the update i thought it maybe screwed the bios or something hence why i bought a new better MB than what i had already the cpu i checked under a magnifying glass and nothing was all straight and none missing the problem is the exact same on the new MB as it is the old one hence why i think it is something i changed over Quote
KenB Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Hi and welcome to ExTS If you have not got an internal speaker there will be no POST beeps - which is a pity. New m/board ......new PSU ...... you should get something on screen. Have you connected the monitor to another machine to make sure that it is still OK ? You can have too much thermal paste on the CPU - this could be why it is luke warm. It should get hot. The thermal paste should only be the size of a pea then spread evenly with something like a credit card. With only the monitor connected - no RAM / hard drive / etc etc you should get something on screen. If not - take another look at the CPU and the thermal paste. You will have to clean off the old stuff with something like rubbing alcohol from a pharmacy. Let us know the results of the above please. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
matt1295 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 Hi and welcome to ExTS If you have not got an internal speaker there will be no POST beeps - which is a pity. New m/board ......new PSU ...... you should get something on screen. Have you connected the monitor to another machine to make sure that it is still OK ? You can have too much thermal paste on the CPU - this could be why it is luke warm. It should get hot. The thermal paste should only be the size of a pea then spread evenly with something like a credit card. With only the monitor connected - no RAM / hard drive / etc etc you should get something on screen. If not - take another look at the CPU and the thermal paste. You will have to clean off the old stuff with something like rubbing alcohol from a pharmacy. Let us know the results of the above please. hello again i will take the cpu out and re-paste the block on it i no the monitor works as its my TV haha and also tried a different one vga and still exactly the same Quote
matt1295 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 managed to get a guy to come out for a free diag and he says its the CPU doesnt seem to do much if anything.... so going to buy a cheap **** CPU that fits for a test... if it works i can rebuild the old MB for my son using the cheap CPU :) will let you all no in a few days once i get it cpu delivered and built back up as im having surgery tomorrow so will be out of action for a day or 2 Quote
Plastic Nev Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 OK Matt, thanks for letting us know, and come back when you are ready, no rush when you have medical stuff going on, that is more important than a computer. Also all the best with it and if we don't see you before, all the best for the new year too. Nev. Quote Need help with your computer problems? Then why not join Free PC Help. Register here. If Free PC Help has helped you then please consider a donation. Click here We are all members helping other members. Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I have installed Windows, now how do I install the curtains? 😄
matt1295 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 thanks guys its a in and out one day job but cnt drive for a week will be on again prob on a phone in hospital as im learning alot from here just reading peoples problems and cures going to be ordering a A4-4000 cpu there like £26.50 from a shop in the next town so once pay day arrives tuesday i will order one... im lost with my computer and the laptop we have is PANTS Quote
KenB Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Hi Matt Hope the op went OK. Let us know how the new CPU goes. You will need to clean off the old paste from the heatsink if you are using this. Rubbing alcohol. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
matt1295 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Posted December 30, 2014 ordered the CPU today and is been delivered tomorrow apparently is there anything else i can use i dnt have and idnt order and rubbing cleaner stuff again thanks for all the help and advice upto now Quote
KenB Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 is there anything else i can use i dnt have and idnt order and rubbing cleaner stuff You can get it at any Chemist / Pharmacy Isopropyl Alcohol ( rubbing alcohol ) or you could use Methylated Spirit. Use a small quantity at a time on a cotton bud or soft cloth. Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
matt1295 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Posted December 31, 2014 You can get it at any Chemist / Pharmacy Isopropyl Alcohol ( rubbing alcohol ) or you could use Methylated Spirit. Use a small quantity at a time on a cotton bud or soft cloth. the a4 - 4000 amd processor arrived this morning fitted and tested before putting it all in the case and it turned on rebuild it all back t case and working a treat Quote
KenB Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 rebuild it all back t case and working a treat That is good to hear :) Quote There is an email going around offering processed pork - gelatin - and salt in a can ......this is simply SPAM !! MiniToolBoxNetwork TestWireless Test
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