can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

[Guest brigstockedavid@yahoo.com]

I've been ripping some classical CDs using Exact Audio Copy (I'm a

beginner and most of its features are a mystery to me), and LAME.

 

One problem is that some of these CDs have 'tracks' that aren't really

separate tracks - the music is continuous, and the track number is

really just a way of letting you get to that part of the symphony or

whatever.

 

EAC treats these as separate tracks, however, and the result is that a

fraction of a second of the music is missing at the beginning of each

track. It even sometimes misses a bit off the beginning of a track

that really *is* a separate track.

 

One solution would be to have it rip the whole CD as if it were one

big track, but I can't see how to do this.

 

Is there a way?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Dave

[Guest §|ª®T?ߪRt?@$t]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

You can do it with CDEX

http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/

 

 

<brigstockedavid@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> I've been ripping some classical CDs using Exact Audio Copy (I'm a

> beginner and most of its features are a mystery to me), and LAME.

>

> One problem is that some of these CDs have 'tracks' that aren't really

> separate tracks - the music is continuous, and the track number is

> really just a way of letting you get to that part of the symphony or

> whatever.

>

> EAC treats these as separate tracks, however, and the result is that a

> fraction of a second of the music is missing at the beginning of each

> track. It even sometimes misses a bit off the beginning of a track

> that really *is* a separate track.

>

> One solution would be to have it rip the whole CD as if it were one

> big track, but I can't see how to do this.

>

> Is there a way?

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Dave

>

[Guest NRen2k5]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

brigstockedavid@yahoo.com wrote:

> I've been ripping some classical CDs using Exact Audio Copy (I'm a

> beginner and most of its features are a mystery to me), and LAME.

>

> One problem is that some of these CDs have 'tracks' that aren't

> really separate tracks - the music is continuous, and the track

> number is really just a way of letting you get to that part of the

> symphony or whatever.

>

> EAC treats these as separate tracks, however, and the result is that

> a fraction of a second of the music is missing at the beginning of

> each track. It even sometimes misses a bit off the beginning of a

> track that really *is* a separate track.

>

> One solution would be to have it rip the whole CD as if it were one

> big track, but I can't see how to do this.

>

> Is there a way?

 

Yes. “Action” → “Copy range”

 

By the way, it isn’t EAC that’s missing a bit of music at the beginning

of each track. Either your CD drive isn’t ripping the CD audio properly,

or your MP3 player isn’t playing the MP3s properly. EAC is a very good

ripper, and LAME MP3s contain metadata that allows them to be played

back completely and without gaps.

[Guest NRen2k5]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

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> You can do it with CDEX http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/

 

1) Would you appreciate bringing your Chevy to a mechanic only to have

him tell you to get a Dodge?

2) Don’t top post.

[Guest Ron Badour]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

1. When a poster does not know the answer to a question, it is perfectly

permissible to offer an alternative solution.

 

2. I have been posting here regularly since 1996. Why is it that I should

not top post? In my view (which is just as valid as the people who made up

many of the lame posting rules), bottom posters are the problem in that I

some times have to scan through reams of text just to see what one person

has to say. However, I do not try to foist my posting preferences onto

others.

 

--

Regards

 

Ron Badour

MS MVP 1997 - 2007

 

 

"NRen2k5" <nomore@email.com> wrote in message

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>

> 1) Would you appreciate bringing your Chevy to a mechanic only to have

> him tell you to get a Dodge?

> 2) Don't top post.

[Guest RobertVA]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

Ron Badour wrote:

>(snip)In my view (which is just as valid as the people who made up

> many of the lame posting rules), bottom posters are the problem in that I

> some times have to scan through reams of text just to see what one person

> has to say. (snip)

 

THE problem is posters who quote every character of several levels of a

thread (top OR bottom posters). Many news servers make the articles

posted over the last couple of weeks available. Unless the previous

posters added an archive blocking flag, the earlier long winded articles

are available for a LONG time on Google Groups. When the quotes are

trimmed down MUCH less scrolling is necessary.

 

When several generations of top posts quote the entire content of ALL

the earlier articles it's VERY difficult to figure out who is responding

to which earlier articles. Imagine ripping an audio book novel to your

MP3 player with each chapter a separate track and then playing them in

shuffle mode. Wouldn't it be pretty difficult to decipher the novel's

plot? Would it be that much easier listening to them in reverse order?

Would you appreciate a set of mystery audio book CDs that had the last

chapter recorded as track 1 and the first chapter as track 12 on the

second disk?

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

Trimming is always an issue, but it is MUCH more an issue for

bottom-posters. And you aren't listening to an audio track, you're reading a

post. What does it really matter is you look down one step or up one step to

see the post being replied to? Either top-posting or bottom posting, if done

properly, maintain a decent order. In my case, I usually top post, but some

posts do better with an inline reply style. I think bottom posting is the

least comfortable to read, whether indented content is an issue or not. I

think top-posting is the easiest to read when reading a conversation, for

the obvious reason that scrolling is not immediately required.

 

Personally, my least favorite habit is when people reply immediately after a

line or paragraph and don't bother to leave a blank line that positively

sets it off from the indented content. Worst is when there isn't even a

CRLF. Reply looks like another sentence of the indented content.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail@invalid.com> wrote in message

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> Ron Badour wrote:

>>(snip)In my view (which is just as valid as the people who made up many of

>>the lame posting rules), bottom posters are the problem in that I some

>>times have to scan through reams of text just to see what one person has

>>to say. (snip)

>

> THE problem is posters who quote every character of several levels of a

> thread (top OR bottom posters). Many news servers make the articles posted

> over the last couple of weeks available. Unless the previous posters added

> an archive blocking flag, the earlier long winded articles are available

> for a LONG time on Google Groups. When the quotes are trimmed down MUCH

> less scrolling is necessary.

>

> When several generations of top posts quote the entire content of ALL the

> earlier articles it's VERY difficult to figure out who is responding to

> which earlier articles. Imagine ripping an audio book novel to your MP3

> player with each chapter a separate track and then playing them in shuffle

> mode. Wouldn't it be pretty difficult to decipher the novel's plot? Would

> it be that much easier listening to them in reverse order? Would you

> appreciate a set of mystery audio book CDs that had the last chapter

> recorded as track 1 and the first chapter as track 12 on the second disk?

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Trimming is always an issue, but it is MUCH more an issue for

> bottom-posters. And you aren't listening to an audio track, you're reading

a

> post. What does it really matter is you look down one step or up one step

to

> see the post being replied to? Either top-posting or bottom posting, if

done

> properly, maintain a decent order. In my case, I usually top post, but

some

> posts do better with an inline reply style. I think bottom posting is the

> least comfortable to read, whether indented content is an issue or not. I

> think top-posting is the easiest to read when reading a conversation, for

> the obvious reason that scrolling is not immediately required.

>

> Personally, my least favorite habit is when people reply immediately after

a

> line or paragraph and don't bother to leave a blank line that positively

> sets it off from the indented content. Worst is when there isn't even a

> CRLF.

 

0D0A :-)

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

If only you'd top-posted, that would have been a perfect response, <eg>

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> Trimming is always an issue, but it is MUCH more an issue for

>> bottom-posters. And you aren't listening to an audio track, you're

>> reading

> a

>> post. What does it really matter is you look down one step or up one step

> to

>> see the post being replied to? Either top-posting or bottom posting, if

> done

>> properly, maintain a decent order. In my case, I usually top post, but

> some

>> posts do better with an inline reply style. I think bottom posting is the

>> least comfortable to read, whether indented content is an issue or not. I

>> think top-posting is the easiest to read when reading a conversation, for

>> the obvious reason that scrolling is not immediately required.

>>

>> Personally, my least favorite habit is when people reply immediately

>> after

> a

>> line or paragraph and don't bother to leave a blank line that positively

>> sets it off from the indented content. Worst is when there isn't even a

>> CRLF.

>

> 0D0A :-)

>

>

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

Sorry about that. I often do, too. :-)

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> If only you'd top-posted, that would have been a perfect response, <eg>

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:%236NcT0BwHHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>> Trimming is always an issue, but it is MUCH more an issue for

>>> bottom-posters. And you aren't listening to an audio track, you're

>>> reading

>> a

>>> post. What does it really matter is you look down one step or up one

step to

>>> see the post being replied to? Either top-posting or bottom posting, if

done

>>> properly, maintain a decent order. In my case, I usually top post, but

some

>>> posts do better with an inline reply style. I think bottom posting is

the

>>> least comfortable to read, whether indented content is an issue or not.

I

>>> think top-posting is the easiest to read when reading a conversation,

for

>>> the obvious reason that scrolling is not immediately required.

>>>

>>> Personally, my least favorite habit is when people reply immediately

>>> after

>> a

>>> line or paragraph and don't bother to leave a blank line that positively

>>> sets it off from the indented content. Worst is when there isn't even a

>>> CRLF.

>>

>> 0D0A :-)

[Guest Ron Badour]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

Thanks Gary

 

We see eye to eye.

 

For Robert

 

I would not appreciate a set of mystery audio book CDs period--I love to

read and my hearing sucks :-)

 

--

Regards

 

Ron Badour

MS MVP 1997 - 2007

 

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%

> I usually top post, but some posts do better with an inline reply style. I

> think bottom posting is the least comfortable to read, whether indented

> content is an issue or not.

[Guest Jesse]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

Joel <joelx@usa.net> wrote in news:i8jv83tne9nndbhmqa9i34l3h0fsocm710@

4ax.com:

> "§|ª®T?ߪRt?@$t" <§|ª®T?ߪRt?@$t@norway_coastline.net> wrote:

>

>>No, just observant....not direct at you BTW!

>

> You've observed all the millions of Americans? And commenting on them

> all isn't directing it at potentially any of them?

>

 

And he just so happened to have hit a direct mark with YOU, Blowel.

Haven't you died yet ?

I thought HIV patients were a bit short on time ....

[Guest Joel]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

Jesse <org@org.orgy> wrote:

>And he just so happened to have hit a direct mark with YOU, Blowel.

>Haven't you died yet ?

>I thought HIV patients were a bit short on time ....

 

 

You also thought you had a life, so, I wouldn't put much stock in

anything you say about my HIV status.

 

--

Joel Crump

 

It's my own design ... It's my own remorse ...

[Guest d'Wooluf]

Re: can I rip a CD as if it's one track using EAC?

 

According to brigstockedavid@yahoo.com (and I quote):

>I've been ripping some classical CDs using Exact Audio Copy (I'm a

>beginner and most of its features are a mystery to me), and LAME.

>

>One problem is that some of these CDs have 'tracks' that aren't really

>separate tracks - the music is continuous, and the track number is

>really just a way of letting you get to that part of the symphony or

>whatever.

>

>EAC treats these as separate tracks, however, and the result is that a

>fraction of a second of the music is missing at the beginning of each

>track. It even sometimes misses a bit off the beginning of a track

>that really *is* a separate track.

>

>One solution would be to have it rip the whole CD as if it were one

>big track, but I can't see how to do this.

>

>Is there a way?

 

Action -> Copy Image and Create Cue Sheet. Leaves you with one big WAV or

MP3 file (and a cuesheet).

 

The gaps are nothing to do with EAC but are a 'feature' of mp3 encoding. As

someone else pointed out, if you encode in LAME, there is metadata in each

mp3 file that can be used to enable gapless playback if your music playing

software or device supports it. Foobar2000 definitely does. I *think* you

need a plugin for Winamp.

 

An alternative if you player supports it is to encode in OGG which is

natively gapless.