Guest cf Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 I was having problems with Kodak EasyShare. One solution suggested to take it out of the MSCONFIG file. I ran MSCONFIG, clicked the Kodak EasyShare, clicked Apply. It then told me that I needed to reboot my computer. I did. Now the system comes up Start Windows Normally or Start from last Known Settings that Worked. No matter what I click, it goes back to this screen. What did I do?! How can I fix it? Please help - cf
Guest Mike H Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 RE: Windows XP will not Start I suggest you start in safe mode and do a system retore to a time when the computer was starting correctly. Mike "cf" wrote: > I was having problems with Kodak EasyShare. One solution suggested to take > it out of the MSCONFIG file. I ran MSCONFIG, clicked the Kodak EasyShare, > clicked Apply. It then told me that I needed to reboot my computer. I did. > Now the system comes up Start Windows Normally or Start from last Known > Settings that Worked. No matter what I click, it goes back to this screen. > What did I do?! How can I fix it? > > Please help - cf
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start "cf" <cf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:51A1BE4E-CC16-44AE-A0E8-97A2B0138A6B@microsoft.com... >I was having problems with Kodak EasyShare. One solution suggested to take > it out of the MSCONFIG file. I ran MSCONFIG, clicked the Kodak EasyShare, > clicked Apply. It then told me that I needed to reboot my computer. I > did. > Now the system comes up Start Windows Normally or Start from last Known > Settings that Worked. No matter what I click, it goes back to this > screen. > What did I do?! How can I fix it? > > Please help - cf Try booting into Safe Mode, then use System Restore to go back a few days.
Guest cf Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start It will not go past the Safe Mode Screen. No matter what I select it goes back to it. Any ideas how to get around it? Thank you for any assistance. cf
Guest R. McCarty Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start Do you have a Windows installation CD ?, if so you may have to boot to the Recovery Console and do a manual roll-back of the Registry. ( Not an easy process & potentially could make things worse ). I wouldn't attempt this unless the PC is imaged or your personal data is backed up. Warnings aside, the process is detailed here: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307545 "cf" <cf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:77246392-C9D9-4B1C-9DEF-1B3BE9C3B0AA@microsoft.com... > It will not go past the Safe Mode Screen. No matter what I select it goes > back to it. Any ideas how to get around it? Thank you for any > assistance. > > cf > >
Guest Just.some.guy Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start I have that *same* problem!!! I am anxiously awaiting the solution.
Guest cf Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start PC is not imaged. Some files are backed up. Sounds like I am screwed :-( cf
Guest cf Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start Okay, you try the recovery console first and let me know how it works :-) cf
Guest Anna Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start "cf" <cf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:51A1BE4E-CC16-44AE-A0E8-97A2B0138A6B@microsoft.com... >I was having problems with Kodak EasyShare. One solution suggested to take > it out of the MSCONFIG file. I ran MSCONFIG, clicked the Kodak EasyShare, > clicked Apply. It then told me that I needed to reboot my computer. I > did. > Now the system comes up Start Windows Normally or Start from last Known > Settings that Worked. No matter what I click, it goes back to this > screen. > What did I do?! How can I fix it? > > Please help - cf Assuming you have a non-OEM-branded XP installation CD at your disposal and not merely an OEM recovery CD or recovery partition situation you might consider running a Repair install of the XP OS at this point in time in view of your other futile attempts to get the system up & running. I assume you've never done this before so here's some general info on the process... Undertaking a Repair install of the OS is a relatively straightforward process. It would be roughly akin to making a fresh install of the OS, but in nearly every case your existing programs & user-created data would be retained. Notice I said "nearly". While it would be a rather rare situation where data would be lost or corrupted as a result of the Repair install, and as unlikely as it may be, it *could* happen. So if there are any programs and/or other data on your present drive that are absolutely crucial to you and you could not tolerate its loss, then I would strongly suggest that before undertaking this Repair install operation that you first either make a clone of your existing HDD (using a disk imaging program) or, if possible, install the HDD in another machine as a secondary HDD so that you can pull off whatever data you want. As I've indicated it's a rare event that a loss or corruption of data will occur even when the Repair install is unsuccessful, but it can happen. So I want you to be aware of this. There are a number of websites that contain step-by-step instructions for undertaking a Repair install. Let me assure you that it's not a difficult process and not terribly time-consuming. If you do a Google search on "XP repair install", you'll be pointed to many of these sites. Here are a few... http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=138 http://www.windowsreinstall.com/winxppro/installxpcdrepair/indexfullpage.htm Assuming the Repair install is successful, you should use your A-V program to immediately check out your PC for any virus infestation. Also, you will need to download/install *all* the MS critical updates since SP2. (I'm assuming that if you undertake this Repair install of the XP OS, you will be doing so with a XP CD that contains SP2). That, of course, is one of the downsides re undertaking a Repair install in that it's usually an onerous task to download all the Critical Updates from MS especially if you have a dialup phone connection rather than broadband. Anyway, give this some thought if you can't get your system back to a functional state any other way. Anna
Guest Alias Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start cf wrote: > PC is not imaged. Some files are backed up. Sounds like I am screwed :-( > > cf Take the hard drive out. Put a new one in. Install XP and your programs. Change the jumpers on the old hard drive to slave and connect it as a slave to your computer. Move the files that you didn't back up to the new hard drive. I would then buy an external USB case for the old hard drive and, after formatting it, use it as a back up drive. Alias
Guest cf Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start Thanks, all, I'm going to try this when I find my desks. At this point the computer is totally useless so losing some stuff is not as bad as losing everything. We recently moved and all the software is in a box - somewhere - .. One more question, sorry for the ignorance, what is OEM?
Guest Mike H Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start original equipment manufacturer. Some supply OEM disks that return you PC to how it was when you bought it. You can't do an installation repair if its simply a recovery CD "cf" wrote: > Thanks, all, I'm going to try this when I find my desks. At this point the > computer is totally useless so losing some stuff is not as bad as losing > everything. We recently moved and all the software is in a box - somewhere - > . One more question, sorry for the ignorance, what is OEM? >
Guest cf Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start So is my Dell PC purchased with Windows XP and OEM? cf
Guest Alias Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start cf wrote: > So is my Dell PC purchased with Windows XP and OEM? > > cf Yep, and repair is out of the question. Read the suggestions in my post. Alias
Guest cf Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start I will have to get assistance on that suggestion. I am intimidated by it as I think it is above my skill level. cf
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start cf <cf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >So is my Dell PC purchased with Windows XP and OEM? Your copy of Windows is a Dell OEM copy. It is locked to that original computer's motherboard.
Guest Harry Ohrn Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start Removing EasyShare item from MSconfig would not have caused the problem you are seeing. It is possible that your initial issues were related to a hardware problem like a failing drive or bad sectors on the drive and the fact that it doesn't boot now is simply coincidental to the removal of EasyShare from MSConfig. Is your computer still under warranty? -- Harry Ohrn MS MVP [shell\User] http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp "cf" <cf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:51A1BE4E-CC16-44AE-A0E8-97A2B0138A6B@microsoft.com... >I was having problems with Kodak EasyShare. One solution suggested to take > it out of the MSCONFIG file. I ran MSCONFIG, clicked the Kodak EasyShare, > clicked Apply. It then told me that I needed to reboot my computer. I > did. > Now the system comes up Start Windows Normally or Start from last Known > Settings that Worked. No matter what I click, it goes back to this > screen. > What did I do?! How can I fix it? > > Please help - cf
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:52:03 -0700, cf <cf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > So is my Dell PC purchased with Windows XP and OEM? You didn't quote anything, so I'm not sure what this is about, but, no, you are apparently misunderstanding what "OEM" means. "OEM" stands for "Original Equipment Manufacturer." An OEM is a *company*, one that builds computers and sells them to the public. In your case, your OEM is Dell. The term "OEM" is also used for some software. When you buy an OEM computer (for example, from Dell) the copy of Windows XP that you get from them is called an "OEM version." You can also buy generic (not supplied by a particular OEM) OEM versions that you can install yourself. OEM versions of Windows are sometimes identical to retail versions, but are sometimes customized by the particular OEM. OEM versions (not the generic ones) are also sometimes BIOS-locked to a particular computer and can't be used on any other. An OEM version can only legally be sold with hardware, although these days, any piece of hardware, even a power cord, qualifies. Although if you get a complete generic OEM version, it contains the same software, it (and any OEM version) has the following disadvantages as compared with the retail version: 1. Its license ties it permanently to the first computer it's installed on. It can never legally be moved to another computer, sold, or given away. 2. It can only do a clean installation, not an upgrade. 3. Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. You can't call them with a problem, but instead have to get any needed support from your OEM; that support may range anywhere between good and non-existent. Or you can get support elsewhere, such as in these newsgroups. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Alias Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start cf wrote: > I will have to get assistance on that suggestion. I am intimidated by it as I > think it is above my skill level. > > cf > > It's not as hard as you think. Computers are just fancy erector sets. All you need is a screw driver and a pair of tweezers. Dell's cases are easy to open. On top of the hard drive, it will tell you where to set the jumper for Master and for Slave. The ribbon that your current hard drive is connected to is where you put the Master. The other connection on the same ribbon is for the slave drive. So, a new hard drive will probably be set as Master already so all you have to do is set the old one as a slave. A jumper is a little plastic thing that covers pins on one end of the hard drive. Use tweezers to pull out the little plastic "jumper" and move it to where the hard drive says will convert it into a slave. Once you have the new hard drive screwed into the case, boot into the BIOS (usually Del or F2 will take you there) and set the CD to boot first. Slip in the recovery CD from Dell. Exit, saving changes, from the BIOS and let the CD do its thing. When it's done, your computer will be set up just like it was when you bought it. Turn off the computer and pull out the plug to the electrical socket. Always pull the plug out of the computer before removing or installing hardware. Put the slave drive in. Turn on the computer and you will see and be able to access/copy your data. Alias
Guest norm Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start Ken Blake, MVP wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:52:03 -0700, cf <cf@discussions.microsoft.com> > wrote: > >> So is my Dell PC purchased with Windows XP and OEM? > > > You didn't quote anything, so I'm not sure what this is about, but, > no, you are apparently misunderstanding what "OEM" means. > > "OEM" stands for "Original Equipment Manufacturer." An OEM is a > *company*, one that builds computers and sells them to the public. In > your case, your OEM is Dell. > > The term "OEM" is also used for some software. When you buy an OEM > computer (for example, from Dell) the copy of Windows XP that you get > from them is called an "OEM version." You can also buy generic (not > supplied by a particular OEM) OEM versions that you can install > yourself. > > OEM versions of Windows are sometimes identical to retail versions, > but are sometimes customized by the particular OEM. OEM versions (not > the generic ones) are also sometimes BIOS-locked to a particular > computer and can't be used on any other. > > An OEM version can only legally be sold with hardware, although these > days, any piece of hardware, even a power cord, qualifies. Are you you sure of the hardware thing? Are newegg and others doing something illegal? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=Vista+OEM No requirement for hardware that I see. > Although if > you get a complete generic OEM version, it contains the same software, > it (and any OEM version) has the following disadvantages as compared > with the retail version: > > 1. Its license ties it permanently to the first computer it's > installed on. It can never legally be moved to another computer, sold, > or given away. > > 2. It can only do a clean installation, not an upgrade. > > 3. Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. You can't call them > with a problem, but instead have to get any needed support from your > OEM; that support may range anywhere between good and non-existent. Or > you can get support elsewhere, such as in these newsgroups. > -- norm
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:23:17 -0400, norm <noone@afakeddomain.net> wrote: > Ken Blake, MVP wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:52:03 -0700, cf <cf@discussions.microsoft.com> > > wrote: > > > >> So is my Dell PC purchased with Windows XP and OEM? > > > > > > You didn't quote anything, so I'm not sure what this is about, but, > > no, you are apparently misunderstanding what "OEM" means. > > > > "OEM" stands for "Original Equipment Manufacturer." An OEM is a > > *company*, one that builds computers and sells them to the public. In > > your case, your OEM is Dell. > > > > The term "OEM" is also used for some software. When you buy an OEM > > computer (for example, from Dell) the copy of Windows XP that you get > > from them is called an "OEM version." You can also buy generic (not > > supplied by a particular OEM) OEM versions that you can install > > yourself. > > > > OEM versions of Windows are sometimes identical to retail versions, > > but are sometimes customized by the particular OEM. OEM versions (not > > the generic ones) are also sometimes BIOS-locked to a particular > > computer and can't be used on any other. > > > > An OEM version can only legally be sold with hardware, although these > > days, any piece of hardware, even a power cord, qualifies. > > Are you you sure of the hardware thing? Are newegg and others doing > something illegal? > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=Vista+OEM > No requirement for hardware that I see. I have *heard* rumors that the requirement to buy hardware with OEM copies had been lifted, but, no, I'm not sure. The original requirement was either a whole computer, a motherboard, or a hard drive, but that was weakened a number of years ago. Since trivially inexpensive hardware, like a power cord, has recently counted as fulfilling the requirement, it hardly matters whether the requirement still exists. > > Although if > > you get a complete generic OEM version, it contains the same software, > > it (and any OEM version) has the following disadvantages as compared > > with the retail version: > > > > 1. Its license ties it permanently to the first computer it's > > installed on. It can never legally be moved to another computer, sold, > > or given away. > > > > 2. It can only do a clean installation, not an upgrade. > > > > 3. Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. You can't call them > > with a problem, but instead have to get any needed support from your > > OEM; that support may range anywhere between good and non-existent. Or > > you can get support elsewhere, such as in these newsgroups. > > > > > -- > norm -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest R. McCarty Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start Just a couple of weeks ago I went by our Tiger Direct Outlet store to pick up a few copies of OEM XP. Sure enough, I was informed that I had to make a "Hardware" purchase to be able to buy OEM XP. The counter agent told me they keep a box of inexpensive parts just for OEM XP purchases. For the life of me, I can't remember what I ended up buying - I think the validation hardware was a PATA-IDE cable for ~$4.00. So at least from Tiger Direct the hardware purchase is still valid & enforced. "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:go5t83hm9imo6hr1eaqd01dgj1qh20ujo2@4ax.com... > On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:23:17 -0400, norm <noone@afakeddomain.net> > wrote: > >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote: >> > On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:52:03 -0700, cf <cf@discussions.microsoft.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> So is my Dell PC purchased with Windows XP and OEM? >> > >> > >> > You didn't quote anything, so I'm not sure what this is about, but, >> > no, you are apparently misunderstanding what "OEM" means. >> > >> > "OEM" stands for "Original Equipment Manufacturer." An OEM is a >> > *company*, one that builds computers and sells them to the public. In >> > your case, your OEM is Dell. >> > >> > The term "OEM" is also used for some software. When you buy an OEM >> > computer (for example, from Dell) the copy of Windows XP that you get >> > from them is called an "OEM version." You can also buy generic (not >> > supplied by a particular OEM) OEM versions that you can install >> > yourself. >> > >> > OEM versions of Windows are sometimes identical to retail versions, >> > but are sometimes customized by the particular OEM. OEM versions (not >> > the generic ones) are also sometimes BIOS-locked to a particular >> > computer and can't be used on any other. >> > >> > An OEM version can only legally be sold with hardware, although these >> > days, any piece of hardware, even a power cord, qualifies. >> >> Are you you sure of the hardware thing? Are newegg and others doing >> something illegal? >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=Vista+OEM >> No requirement for hardware that I see. > > > I have *heard* rumors that the requirement to buy hardware with OEM > copies had been lifted, but, no, I'm not sure. > > The original requirement was either a whole computer, a motherboard, > or a hard drive, but that was weakened a number of years ago. Since > trivially inexpensive hardware, like a power cord, has recently > counted as fulfilling the requirement, it hardly matters whether the > requirement still exists. > > > >> > Although if >> > you get a complete generic OEM version, it contains the same software, >> > it (and any OEM version) has the following disadvantages as compared >> > with the retail version: >> > >> > 1. Its license ties it permanently to the first computer it's >> > installed on. It can never legally be moved to another computer, sold, >> > or given away. >> > >> > 2. It can only do a clean installation, not an upgrade. >> > >> > 3. Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. You can't call them >> > with a problem, but instead have to get any needed support from your >> > OEM; that support may range anywhere between good and non-existent. Or >> > you can get support elsewhere, such as in these newsgroups. >> > >> >> >> -- >> norm > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Ghostrider Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Re: Windows XP will not Start Harry Ohrn wrote: > Removing EasyShare item from MSconfig would not have caused the problem you > are seeing. It is possible that your initial issues were related to a > hardware problem like a failing drive or bad sectors on the drive and the > fact that it doesn't boot now is simply coincidental to the removal of > EasyShare from MSConfig. > That is debatable. I always have had problems removing Kodak EasyShare from computers and it is not just a straight removal from Startup but also involves manual deletions from the Windows Registry. But it is very much akin to a hardware problem since Kodak Easyshare tries to integrate the Kodak digital camera, cdrom drive(s), its pictures folder, and an Internet connection to Kodak for processing files to pictures. Talk about being complicated. Sometimes it is just easier to keep Easyshare in the computer and ignore it or, alternately, never allow it to get installed in the first place.
Guest cf Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 RE: Windows XP will not Start I wanted to thank everyone for their tips and hints and advice. I got the disk out to reinstall Windows, realizing that I would probably lose everything, but at that point I had no computer at all. Opened the disk from its original packaging, turned on the computer and - everything started just as it was supposed to. Of course, I still have the Kodak EasyShare problem, but heck, I'll just buy a new camera. Thank you all. cf
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