Guest thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: COMPLETE backup of harddrive contents Yep, makes sense to me... although, I don't think it IS as closely related to the drive as you might think. It looks exactly like an external h/d with the casing and all, but its shaped to go into this pocket that has a little hatch on the tower, in where it plugs into some sort of socket. But the drive also has a USB and AC power connection for use on other computers. But I will definately take your advice,backing it up when I make system cahnges... I don't hink I will be making anymore unless they find a whole list of NEW XP tweaks and post htem on the net. Thanks! "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > OK, you've convinced me, <s>. For a one-time or occasional clone of the OS > partition or the entire drive, your scheme seems OK. Just remember to > refresh it (replace it) whenever you make changes to your system -- tweaks, > installations, uninstalls, etc. And, perhaps, make one *before* making such > changes, or before major maintenance. > > I would not consider that drive to be "external" since it still depends on > the main box's power supply, and thence come power surges that are the death > of drives. IOW, that drive is too closely associated with the main drive to > be considered a decent backup. Be sure to pull it before making major > changes, only putting it back when the system is "right". > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" > <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:D15C2D09-530D-4228-AF3E-A9123882E39E@microsoft.com... > > Setting up a backup strategy, on a regular basis, would be a lot of work > > because this external that I have, like I mentioned before, is an HP Media > > Drive, and it plugs into the desktop. It's got this whole compartement > > made > > JUST for it right in the tower. PLUS, I moved taht desktop's pagin file to > > it > > so I'd had to shut down that computer, take it out, gather the cords, set > > it > > all up, and for what? Absolutley none of my files are that critical. I > > always > > have ONe copy on my hard drive, and one on my thumb drive and I think it > > is > > VERY unlikely that both of them might corrupt on me in one day. > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > > > >> Ignore the troll. He never has anything nice to say about anyone (well, > >> almost never). > >> > >> Only you can determine what's worth the time and money to keep backed up. > >> Personally, a thumb drive is near or maybe at the top of my list of flaky > >> places to store data. If the files on the external HD aren't critical and > >> you can make enough room, now that you have Acronis, why not set up a > >> regular backup strategy? > >> > >> -- > >> Gary S. Terhune > >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> > >> "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" > >> <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:053378D5-F483-49BA-9C7D-5DA88B3DE6A3@microsoft.com... > >> > Anyone want to back me up here? I'm sorry UNCLE GRUMPY, if my priority > >> > isn't > >> > backing up hundreds of gigs of p0rn that I download every day. The only > >> > files > >> > that I PRODUCE on my computer are photoshop, illustrator, Word, > >> > publisher, > >> > excel, and powerpoint documents. Those are all saved to my thumb drive, > >> > as > >> > is > >> > my Itunes downloads to my Ipod. so, I'm sorry if I don't have the need > >> > to > >> > back up my hard drive everyday, but that doesn't make me a moron. > >> > > >> > And since when does "simplicity" include disassembling an external hard > >> > drive and a laptop, and transplanting the drives inside, even if they > >> > are > >> > most likely not the same types (Most likely being the key term here) ? > >> > In > >> > this case, I think it's YOU that is the moron because that is not as > >> > "simple" > >> > as you say. > >> > > >> > I have different needs than perhaps you do. I have different files that > >> > I > >> > am > >> > aiming to backup, and a different budget to stick with so, PLEASe, > >> > anyone > >> > here gonna back me up? I was not angry until this UNCLE GRUMPY started > >> > coming > >> > on here and calling me a moron. Heck, all my messages were typed i na > >> > happy > >> > mood and context. > >> > > >> > > >> > "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" wrote: > >> > > >> >> And to Gary here: I see your point of view, but, for #1, I don't care > >> >> about > >> >> backing those up. Those bideo files on the hard drive can go if they > >> >> want. > >> >> It's just a WHOLE lot of video tutorials for using photoshop and > >> >> illustrator. > >> >> The HD came free with the computer, so I used it to save videos that I > >> >> otherwise would not have downloaded. > >> >> > >> >> For #2, like I tried to point out earlier, I only REALLY care that all > >> >> those > >> >> registry tweaks and transformations, and user settings tht I applied > >> >> stay > >> >> the > >> >> same if I had to do a hard drive switch, and I've done enough tweaks > >> >> to > >> >> my > >> >> system to make me happy... It took HOURs of research to find out how > >> >> to > >> >> do > >> >> them, what one's to do, etc. So now, I just want to have them setup if > >> >> my > >> >> H/D > >> >> ever fails, and I'll just continue to use my disk and page file > >> >> defragmenter > >> >> to keep my computer moving quickly. > >> >> > >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Yes, you can use the existing external HD to house your Acronis > >> >> > backups, > >> >> > with the following serious drawbacks. > >> >> > > >> >> > 1. Makes no sense to use it to backup the other files on that same > >> >> > drive. > >> >> > Those files aren't worth backing up? > >> >> > > >> >> > 2. You have to make your backups fairly regularly in order to have > >> >> > any > >> >> > sane > >> >> > result when you have to restore them. Really, just how many days or > >> >> > weeks > >> >> > worth of work, installations and tweaks are you willing to lose? I'm > >> >> > thinking that a decent backup strategy will require more disk space > >> >> > than > >> >> > you'll want to lose on that 100GB external drive. Set up a decent > >> >> > backup > >> >> > strategy using that disk and then see how much space it consumes. > >> >> > And > >> >> > let > >> >> > number 1, above, haunt you all the while, <s>. > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Gary S. Terhune > >> >> > MS-MVP Shell/User > >> >> > http://www.grystmill.com > >> >> > > >> >> > "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" > >> >> > <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> > message > >> >> > news:BDF31E8C-801D-4398-AD3F-B5306D6DF522@microsoft.com... > >> >> > > WOW! I think you have taken my question WAY out of context there > >> >> > > buddy. I > >> >> > > only put that question to mkae my point as to why I am not going > >> >> > > to > >> >> > > take > >> >> > > the > >> >> > > hard drive out of the case. Many people are suggesting it as an > >> >> > > option, I > >> >> > > made my point as to why I won't use that option (using hte form of > >> >> > > a > >> >> > > question) and suddenly you turn to nasty words. Ignoring you, > >> >> > > UNCLE > >> >> > > GRUMPY: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > So, Gary, are you saying that for me to put that image file > >> >> > > created > >> >> > > by > >> >> > > Acronis, onto my External hard drive that houses movies as well, > >> >> > > it > >> >> > > would > >> >> > > not > >> >> > > work? See, my goal here is not to have a day-to-day backup of all > >> >> > > my > >> >> > > files. > >> >> > > In fact, one backup of all of my files would satisfy me just fine, > >> >> > > as > >> >> > > long > >> >> > > as > >> >> > > all of my user settings and Window settings are still there, along > >> >> > > with > >> >> > > all > >> >> > > of my Registry edits. So, is this going to work with Acronis this > >> >> > > way? > >> >> > > > >> >> > > "Uncle Grumpy" wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com > >> >> > >> <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >Ya, lots of people suggested that, but what good would that be > >> >> > >> >if I > >> >> > >> >wanted to > >> >> > >> >have an external drive still? > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> If you have to ask that, then it would be NO good. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> WHY???... because you're a moron and can't understand the > >> >> > >> simplicity > >> >> > >> of what folks have been telling you. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 RE: COMPLETE backup of harddrive contents To lil' dave, about the Hard drive types. I dont quite know what Sata 6 is... Until now, I didn't know htat 150 meant 150MB/s... But I can guarantee my laptop is moving faster htan 6MB/s, lol. I would just like to know if 150 would work on my laptop because I have an upgrade h/d in mind, but hte only spec that doesnt match up with my current h/d is the number of SATA. Mine is currently 6, but I'd like to purchase this one that is SATA150. "mike_302" wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to do the right hting by completely backing up my harddrive to a > removable hard drive. What I am aiming for is a complete and total back of > the files that I currently have on the computer so that if my laptop hard > drive finally took a crap on me, I could simply get a new hard drive for it, > install XP on it again, and drag and drop the files onto the hard drive... I > don;t know if what I said made much sense, but I think some of you > understand. See, waht I've done to my computer is tweaked the he|| out of it > to make it go REALLY fast, and I've got quite a few prgrams on it that I > would prefer NOT to have to reinstall because I would be here for days or > even weeks, one of those prorgams including Windows Vista Transformation Pack > 7 by Windows X-- a prorgam that transformed many of my system files to make > my GUI look a LOT like vista. Some of you may disapprove of this for your own > reasons, but I like the speed my desktop is at right now, the amount of space > it is taking up, and what it looks like. > > anywyas, does anyone know how to do what I'm describing? So I don't have to > reinstall anything-- just drag and rop the files in C:/ back to any new > harddrive I might have to get? > > Thakns in advance!
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: COMPLETE backup of harddrive contents Theoretically, your drive would be safer if you left it out of its enclosure and used the USB and AC connectors. That "plug of some kind" is directly connected to the same power supply that supports the rest of your system, and if a zap happens, it will get zapped along with the rest of your system. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8812CAC7-5040-403E-B360-E1FD723B69F4@microsoft.com... > Yep, makes sense to me... although, I don't think it IS as closely related > to > the drive as you might think. It looks exactly like an external h/d with > the > casing and all, but its shaped to go into this pocket that has a little > hatch > on the tower, in where it plugs into some sort of socket. But the drive > also > has a USB and AC power connection for use on other computers. But I will > definately take your advice,backing it up when I make system cahnges... I > don't hink I will be making anymore unless they find a whole list of NEW > XP > tweaks and post htem on the net. > > Thanks! > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > >> OK, you've convinced me, <s>. For a one-time or occasional clone of the >> OS >> partition or the entire drive, your scheme seems OK. Just remember to >> refresh it (replace it) whenever you make changes to your system -- >> tweaks, >> installations, uninstalls, etc. And, perhaps, make one *before* making >> such >> changes, or before major maintenance. >> >> I would not consider that drive to be "external" since it still depends >> on >> the main box's power supply, and thence come power surges that are the >> death >> of drives. IOW, that drive is too closely associated with the main drive >> to >> be considered a decent backup. Be sure to pull it before making major >> changes, only putting it back when the system is "right". >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" >> <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:D15C2D09-530D-4228-AF3E-A9123882E39E@microsoft.com... >> > Setting up a backup strategy, on a regular basis, would be a lot of >> > work >> > because this external that I have, like I mentioned before, is an HP >> > Media >> > Drive, and it plugs into the desktop. It's got this whole compartement >> > made >> > JUST for it right in the tower. PLUS, I moved taht desktop's pagin file >> > to >> > it >> > so I'd had to shut down that computer, take it out, gather the cords, >> > set >> > it >> > all up, and for what? Absolutley none of my files are that critical. I >> > always >> > have ONe copy on my hard drive, and one on my thumb drive and I think >> > it >> > is >> > VERY unlikely that both of them might corrupt on me in one day. >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: >> > >> >> Ignore the troll. He never has anything nice to say about anyone >> >> (well, >> >> almost never). >> >> >> >> Only you can determine what's worth the time and money to keep backed >> >> up. >> >> Personally, a thumb drive is near or maybe at the top of my list of >> >> flaky >> >> places to store data. If the files on the external HD aren't critical >> >> and >> >> you can make enough room, now that you have Acronis, why not set up a >> >> regular backup strategy? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" >> >> <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> message >> >> news:053378D5-F483-49BA-9C7D-5DA88B3DE6A3@microsoft.com... >> >> > Anyone want to back me up here? I'm sorry UNCLE GRUMPY, if my >> >> > priority >> >> > isn't >> >> > backing up hundreds of gigs of p0rn that I download every day. The >> >> > only >> >> > files >> >> > that I PRODUCE on my computer are photoshop, illustrator, Word, >> >> > publisher, >> >> > excel, and powerpoint documents. Those are all saved to my thumb >> >> > drive, >> >> > as >> >> > is >> >> > my Itunes downloads to my Ipod. so, I'm sorry if I don't have the >> >> > need >> >> > to >> >> > back up my hard drive everyday, but that doesn't make me a moron. >> >> > >> >> > And since when does "simplicity" include disassembling an external >> >> > hard >> >> > drive and a laptop, and transplanting the drives inside, even if >> >> > they >> >> > are >> >> > most likely not the same types (Most likely being the key term here) >> >> > ? >> >> > In >> >> > this case, I think it's YOU that is the moron because that is not as >> >> > "simple" >> >> > as you say. >> >> > >> >> > I have different needs than perhaps you do. I have different files >> >> > that >> >> > I >> >> > am >> >> > aiming to backup, and a different budget to stick with so, PLEASe, >> >> > anyone >> >> > here gonna back me up? I was not angry until this UNCLE GRUMPY >> >> > started >> >> > coming >> >> > on here and calling me a moron. Heck, all my messages were typed i >> >> > na >> >> > happy >> >> > mood and context. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> And to Gary here: I see your point of view, but, for #1, I don't >> >> >> care >> >> >> about >> >> >> backing those up. Those bideo files on the hard drive can go if >> >> >> they >> >> >> want. >> >> >> It's just a WHOLE lot of video tutorials for using photoshop and >> >> >> illustrator. >> >> >> The HD came free with the computer, so I used it to save videos >> >> >> that I >> >> >> otherwise would not have downloaded. >> >> >> >> >> >> For #2, like I tried to point out earlier, I only REALLY care that >> >> >> all >> >> >> those >> >> >> registry tweaks and transformations, and user settings tht I >> >> >> applied >> >> >> stay >> >> >> the >> >> >> same if I had to do a hard drive switch, and I've done enough >> >> >> tweaks >> >> >> to >> >> >> my >> >> >> system to make me happy... It took HOURs of research to find out >> >> >> how >> >> >> to >> >> >> do >> >> >> them, what one's to do, etc. So now, I just want to have them setup >> >> >> if >> >> >> my >> >> >> H/D >> >> >> ever fails, and I'll just continue to use my disk and page file >> >> >> defragmenter >> >> >> to keep my computer moving quickly. >> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes, you can use the existing external HD to house your Acronis >> >> >> > backups, >> >> >> > with the following serious drawbacks. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > 1. Makes no sense to use it to backup the other files on that >> >> >> > same >> >> >> > drive. >> >> >> > Those files aren't worth backing up? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > 2. You have to make your backups fairly regularly in order to >> >> >> > have >> >> >> > any >> >> >> > sane >> >> >> > result when you have to restore them. Really, just how many days >> >> >> > or >> >> >> > weeks >> >> >> > worth of work, installations and tweaks are you willing to lose? >> >> >> > I'm >> >> >> > thinking that a decent backup strategy will require more disk >> >> >> > space >> >> >> > than >> >> >> > you'll want to lose on that 100GB external drive. Set up a decent >> >> >> > backup >> >> >> > strategy using that disk and then see how much space it consumes. >> >> >> > And >> >> >> > let >> >> >> > number 1, above, haunt you all the while, <s>. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> > MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> > http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" >> >> >> > <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> > message >> >> >> > news:BDF31E8C-801D-4398-AD3F-B5306D6DF522@microsoft.com... >> >> >> > > WOW! I think you have taken my question WAY out of context >> >> >> > > there >> >> >> > > buddy. I >> >> >> > > only put that question to mkae my point as to why I am not >> >> >> > > going >> >> >> > > to >> >> >> > > take >> >> >> > > the >> >> >> > > hard drive out of the case. Many people are suggesting it as an >> >> >> > > option, I >> >> >> > > made my point as to why I won't use that option (using hte form >> >> >> > > of >> >> >> > > a >> >> >> > > question) and suddenly you turn to nasty words. Ignoring you, >> >> >> > > UNCLE >> >> >> > > GRUMPY: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > So, Gary, are you saying that for me to put that image file >> >> >> > > created >> >> >> > > by >> >> >> > > Acronis, onto my External hard drive that houses movies as >> >> >> > > well, >> >> >> > > it >> >> >> > > would >> >> >> > > not >> >> >> > > work? See, my goal here is not to have a day-to-day backup of >> >> >> > > all >> >> >> > > my >> >> >> > > files. >> >> >> > > In fact, one backup of all of my files would satisfy me just >> >> >> > > fine, >> >> >> > > as >> >> >> > > long >> >> >> > > as >> >> >> > > all of my user settings and Window settings are still there, >> >> >> > > along >> >> >> > > with >> >> >> > > all >> >> >> > > of my Registry edits. So, is this going to work with Acronis >> >> >> > > this >> >> >> > > way? >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > "Uncle Grumpy" wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com >> >> >> > >> <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >Ya, lots of people suggested that, but what good would that >> >> >> > >> >be >> >> >> > >> >if I >> >> >> > >> >wanted to >> >> >> > >> >have an external drive still? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> If you have to ask that, then it would be NO good. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> WHY???... because you're a moron and can't understand the >> >> >> > >> simplicity >> >> >> > >> of what folks have been telling you. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: COMPLETE backup of harddrive contents SATA-6 stands for 6GB/sec. SATA-1, SATA-3, and SATA-6 do not refer to the same thing as SATA-150 and SATA-300. See ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA for a decent discussion of the topic, though it's a bit dated. As far as I can tell, there is no problem with what you want to do. What I would make sure is that the new drive is SATA-6. SATA-150 refers to the controller, and should be compatible with all SATA drives, though the later models show some incompatibilities according to the article. SATA-1, -3 and -6 all work on a SATA-150 controller. SATA-300 is more recent and backwards compatible. Make sure you get a SATA-6 drive. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4C82DB08-08C0-4928-9951-8855F8507F85@microsoft.com... > To lil' dave, about the Hard drive types. I dont quite know what Sata 6 > is... > Until now, I didn't know htat 150 meant 150MB/s... But I can guarantee my > laptop is moving faster htan 6MB/s, lol. I would just like to know if 150 > would work on my laptop because I have an upgrade h/d in mind, but hte > only > spec that doesnt match up with my current h/d is the number of SATA. Mine > is > currently 6, but I'd like to purchase this one that is SATA150. > > "mike_302" wrote: > >> Hi, >> I am trying to do the right hting by completely backing up my harddrive >> to a >> removable hard drive. What I am aiming for is a complete and total back >> of >> the files that I currently have on the computer so that if my laptop hard >> drive finally took a crap on me, I could simply get a new hard drive for >> it, >> install XP on it again, and drag and drop the files onto the hard >> drive... I >> don;t know if what I said made much sense, but I think some of you >> understand. See, waht I've done to my computer is tweaked the he|| out of >> it >> to make it go REALLY fast, and I've got quite a few prgrams on it that I >> would prefer NOT to have to reinstall because I would be here for days or >> even weeks, one of those prorgams including Windows Vista Transformation >> Pack >> 7 by Windows X-- a prorgam that transformed many of my system files to >> make >> my GUI look a LOT like vista. Some of you may disapprove of this for your >> own >> reasons, but I like the speed my desktop is at right now, the amount of >> space >> it is taking up, and what it looks like. >> >> anywyas, does anyone know how to do what I'm describing? So I don't have >> to >> reinstall anything-- just drag and rop the files in C:/ back to any new >> harddrive I might have to get? >> >> Thakns in advance!
Guest thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: COMPLETE backup of harddrive contents See, that's the thing,. When looking for a drive on Tigerdirect, I only found the specs saying SATA-150 or SATA-300. Can you search for me on there... You cort through all the drives pretty quickly if you click the links on the side. Go Harddrives, External USB/Firewire, 2.5", SATA and then you're left with 9, only about 2 of them are 160 GB and those are the two I'm talking about. Thanks! "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > SATA-6 stands for 6GB/sec. SATA-1, SATA-3, and SATA-6 do not refer to the > same thing as SATA-150 and SATA-300. See > ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA for a decent discussion of the > topic, though it's a bit dated. As far as I can tell, there is no problem > with what you want to do. What I would make sure is that the new drive is > SATA-6. SATA-150 refers to the controller, and should be compatible with all > SATA drives, though the later models show some incompatibilities according > to the article. SATA-1, -3 and -6 all work on a SATA-150 controller. > SATA-300 is more recent and backwards compatible. > > Make sure you get a SATA-6 drive. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" > <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4C82DB08-08C0-4928-9951-8855F8507F85@microsoft.com... > > To lil' dave, about the Hard drive types. I dont quite know what Sata 6 > > is... > > Until now, I didn't know htat 150 meant 150MB/s... But I can guarantee my > > laptop is moving faster htan 6MB/s, lol. I would just like to know if 150 > > would work on my laptop because I have an upgrade h/d in mind, but hte > > only > > spec that doesnt match up with my current h/d is the number of SATA. Mine > > is > > currently 6, but I'd like to purchase this one that is SATA150. > > > > "mike_302" wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> I am trying to do the right hting by completely backing up my harddrive > >> to a > >> removable hard drive. What I am aiming for is a complete and total back > >> of > >> the files that I currently have on the computer so that if my laptop hard > >> drive finally took a crap on me, I could simply get a new hard drive for > >> it, > >> install XP on it again, and drag and drop the files onto the hard > >> drive... I > >> don;t know if what I said made much sense, but I think some of you > >> understand. See, waht I've done to my computer is tweaked the he|| out of > >> it > >> to make it go REALLY fast, and I've got quite a few prgrams on it that I > >> would prefer NOT to have to reinstall because I would be here for days or > >> even weeks, one of those prorgams including Windows Vista Transformation > >> Pack > >> 7 by Windows X-- a prorgam that transformed many of my system files to > >> make > >> my GUI look a LOT like vista. Some of you may disapprove of this for your > >> own > >> reasons, but I like the speed my desktop is at right now, the amount of > >> space > >> it is taking up, and what it looks like. > >> > >> anywyas, does anyone know how to do what I'm describing? So I don't have > >> to > >> reinstall anything-- just drag and rop the files in C:/ back to any new > >> harddrive I might have to get? > >> > >> Thakns in advance! > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: COMPLETE backup of harddrive contents You need to determine what speed the SATA controller is on your machine. SATA-150 or SATA-300. You do that from the laptop manufacturer's spec sheet. My *guess* is that you need a SATA-150 drive, and that it will most likely be a SATA6 drive, since that is the stage SATA-150 drives are at these days. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:36E15250-B218-4F26-9A1E-7D958B0746AE@microsoft.com... > See, that's the thing,. When looking for a drive on Tigerdirect, I only > found > the specs saying SATA-150 or SATA-300. Can you search for me on there... > You > cort through all the drives pretty quickly if you click the links on the > side. Go Harddrives, External USB/Firewire, 2.5", SATA > and then you're left with 9, only about 2 of them are 160 GB and those are > the two I'm talking about. > > Thanks! > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > >> SATA-6 stands for 6GB/sec. SATA-1, SATA-3, and SATA-6 do not refer to the >> same thing as SATA-150 and SATA-300. See >> ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA for a decent discussion of the >> topic, though it's a bit dated. As far as I can tell, there is no problem >> with what you want to do. What I would make sure is that the new drive is >> SATA-6. SATA-150 refers to the controller, and should be compatible with >> all >> SATA drives, though the later models show some incompatibilities >> according >> to the article. SATA-1, -3 and -6 all work on a SATA-150 controller. >> SATA-300 is more recent and backwards compatible. >> >> Make sure you get a SATA-6 drive. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" >> <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:4C82DB08-08C0-4928-9951-8855F8507F85@microsoft.com... >> > To lil' dave, about the Hard drive types. I dont quite know what Sata 6 >> > is... >> > Until now, I didn't know htat 150 meant 150MB/s... But I can guarantee >> > my >> > laptop is moving faster htan 6MB/s, lol. I would just like to know if >> > 150 >> > would work on my laptop because I have an upgrade h/d in mind, but hte >> > only >> > spec that doesnt match up with my current h/d is the number of SATA. >> > Mine >> > is >> > currently 6, but I'd like to purchase this one that is SATA150. >> > >> > "mike_302" wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to do the right hting by completely backing up my >> >> harddrive >> >> to a >> >> removable hard drive. What I am aiming for is a complete and total >> >> back >> >> of >> >> the files that I currently have on the computer so that if my laptop >> >> hard >> >> drive finally took a crap on me, I could simply get a new hard drive >> >> for >> >> it, >> >> install XP on it again, and drag and drop the files onto the hard >> >> drive... I >> >> don;t know if what I said made much sense, but I think some of you >> >> understand. See, waht I've done to my computer is tweaked the he|| out >> >> of >> >> it >> >> to make it go REALLY fast, and I've got quite a few prgrams on it that >> >> I >> >> would prefer NOT to have to reinstall because I would be here for days >> >> or >> >> even weeks, one of those prorgams including Windows Vista >> >> Transformation >> >> Pack >> >> 7 by Windows X-- a prorgam that transformed many of my system files to >> >> make >> >> my GUI look a LOT like vista. Some of you may disapprove of this for >> >> your >> >> own >> >> reasons, but I like the speed my desktop is at right now, the amount >> >> of >> >> space >> >> it is taking up, and what it looks like. >> >> >> >> anywyas, does anyone know how to do what I'm describing? So I don't >> >> have >> >> to >> >> reinstall anything-- just drag and rop the files in C:/ back to any >> >> new >> >> harddrive I might have to get? >> >> >> >> Thakns in advance! >> >> >>
Guest thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com Posted July 8, 2007 Posted July 8, 2007 Re: COMPLETE backup of harddrive contents when I used tech support a couple days back, from Gateway, the said my laptop had a SATA6, and that SATA-150 was just another version of SATA, like 6 was (which they obviously had wrong, and proved they know nothing really). All I know for sure based on the specs of my system and what gateway could tell me, is that it IS SATA6. As for 150 or 300, you're prob right about 150. The laptop is a year and a a hlaf old. Someone on here said earlier that 300 is fairly new. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > You need to determine what speed the SATA controller is on your machine. > SATA-150 or SATA-300. You do that from the laptop manufacturer's spec sheet. > My *guess* is that you need a SATA-150 drive, and that it will most likely > be a SATA6 drive, since that is the stage SATA-150 drives are at these days. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" > <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:36E15250-B218-4F26-9A1E-7D958B0746AE@microsoft.com... > > See, that's the thing,. When looking for a drive on Tigerdirect, I only > > found > > the specs saying SATA-150 or SATA-300. Can you search for me on there... > > You > > cort through all the drives pretty quickly if you click the links on the > > side. Go Harddrives, External USB/Firewire, 2.5", SATA > > and then you're left with 9, only about 2 of them are 160 GB and those are > > the two I'm talking about. > > > > Thanks! > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > > > >> SATA-6 stands for 6GB/sec. SATA-1, SATA-3, and SATA-6 do not refer to the > >> same thing as SATA-150 and SATA-300. See > >> ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA for a decent discussion of the > >> topic, though it's a bit dated. As far as I can tell, there is no problem > >> with what you want to do. What I would make sure is that the new drive is > >> SATA-6. SATA-150 refers to the controller, and should be compatible with > >> all > >> SATA drives, though the later models show some incompatibilities > >> according > >> to the article. SATA-1, -3 and -6 all work on a SATA-150 controller. > >> SATA-300 is more recent and backwards compatible. > >> > >> Make sure you get a SATA-6 drive. > >> > >> -- > >> Gary S. Terhune > >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> > >> "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" > >> <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:4C82DB08-08C0-4928-9951-8855F8507F85@microsoft.com... > >> > To lil' dave, about the Hard drive types. I dont quite know what Sata 6 > >> > is... > >> > Until now, I didn't know htat 150 meant 150MB/s... But I can guarantee > >> > my > >> > laptop is moving faster htan 6MB/s, lol. I would just like to know if > >> > 150 > >> > would work on my laptop because I have an upgrade h/d in mind, but hte > >> > only > >> > spec that doesnt match up with my current h/d is the number of SATA. > >> > Mine > >> > is > >> > currently 6, but I'd like to purchase this one that is SATA150. > >> > > >> > "mike_302" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, > >> >> I am trying to do the right hting by completely backing up my > >> >> harddrive > >> >> to a > >> >> removable hard drive. What I am aiming for is a complete and total > >> >> back > >> >> of > >> >> the files that I currently have on the computer so that if my laptop > >> >> hard > >> >> drive finally took a crap on me, I could simply get a new hard drive > >> >> for > >> >> it, > >> >> install XP on it again, and drag and drop the files onto the hard > >> >> drive... I > >> >> don;t know if what I said made much sense, but I think some of you > >> >> understand. See, waht I've done to my computer is tweaked the he|| out > >> >> of > >> >> it > >> >> to make it go REALLY fast, and I've got quite a few prgrams on it that > >> >> I > >> >> would prefer NOT to have to reinstall because I would be here for days > >> >> or > >> >> even weeks, one of those prorgams including Windows Vista > >> >> Transformation > >> >> Pack > >> >> 7 by Windows X-- a prorgam that transformed many of my system files to > >> >> make > >> >> my GUI look a LOT like vista. Some of you may disapprove of this for > >> >> your > >> >> own > >> >> reasons, but I like the speed my desktop is at right now, the amount > >> >> of > >> >> space > >> >> it is taking up, and what it looks like. > >> >> > >> >> anywyas, does anyone know how to do what I'm describing? So I don't > >> >> have > >> >> to > >> >> reinstall anything-- just drag and rop the files in C:/ back to any > >> >> new > >> >> harddrive I might have to get? > >> >> > >> >> Thakns in advance! > >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 8, 2007 Posted July 8, 2007 Re: COMPLETE backup of harddrive contents I've gone as far as I can with your case. The specs provided by Gateway do not mention the motherboard or its components. I think you're down to the point of trying the drive you've got in mind. SATA technology is *supposed* to be backwards and forwards compatible, though as that article notes, it isn't always the case. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:33C2EA88-7C65-45ED-BF67-CBA2F243739E@microsoft.com... > when I used tech support a couple days back, from Gateway, the said my > laptop > had a SATA6, and that SATA-150 was just another version of SATA, like 6 > was > (which they obviously had wrong, and proved they know nothing really). All > I > know for sure based on the specs of my system and what gateway could tell > me, > is that it IS SATA6. As for 150 or 300, you're prob right about 150. The > laptop is a year and a a hlaf old. Someone on here said earlier that 300 > is > fairly new. > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > >> You need to determine what speed the SATA controller is on your machine. >> SATA-150 or SATA-300. You do that from the laptop manufacturer's spec >> sheet. >> My *guess* is that you need a SATA-150 drive, and that it will most >> likely >> be a SATA6 drive, since that is the stage SATA-150 drives are at these >> days. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" >> <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:36E15250-B218-4F26-9A1E-7D958B0746AE@microsoft.com... >> > See, that's the thing,. When looking for a drive on Tigerdirect, I only >> > found >> > the specs saying SATA-150 or SATA-300. Can you search for me on >> > there... >> > You >> > cort through all the drives pretty quickly if you click the links on >> > the >> > side. Go Harddrives, External USB/Firewire, 2.5", SATA >> > and then you're left with 9, only about 2 of them are 160 GB and those >> > are >> > the two I'm talking about. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: >> > >> >> SATA-6 stands for 6GB/sec. SATA-1, SATA-3, and SATA-6 do not refer to >> >> the >> >> same thing as SATA-150 and SATA-300. See >> >> ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA for a decent discussion of >> >> the >> >> topic, though it's a bit dated. As far as I can tell, there is no >> >> problem >> >> with what you want to do. What I would make sure is that the new drive >> >> is >> >> SATA-6. SATA-150 refers to the controller, and should be compatible >> >> with >> >> all >> >> SATA drives, though the later models show some incompatibilities >> >> according >> >> to the article. SATA-1, -3 and -6 all work on a SATA-150 controller. >> >> SATA-300 is more recent and backwards compatible. >> >> >> >> Make sure you get a SATA-6 drive. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> "thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com" >> >> <thunderstruck302hotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> message >> >> news:4C82DB08-08C0-4928-9951-8855F8507F85@microsoft.com... >> >> > To lil' dave, about the Hard drive types. I dont quite know what >> >> > Sata 6 >> >> > is... >> >> > Until now, I didn't know htat 150 meant 150MB/s... But I can >> >> > guarantee >> >> > my >> >> > laptop is moving faster htan 6MB/s, lol. I would just like to know >> >> > if >> >> > 150 >> >> > would work on my laptop because I have an upgrade h/d in mind, but >> >> > hte >> >> > only >> >> > spec that doesnt match up with my current h/d is the number of SATA. >> >> > Mine >> >> > is >> >> > currently 6, but I'd like to purchase this one that is SATA150. >> >> > >> >> > "mike_302" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> I am trying to do the right hting by completely backing up my >> >> >> harddrive >> >> >> to a >> >> >> removable hard drive. What I am aiming for is a complete and total >> >> >> back >> >> >> of >> >> >> the files that I currently have on the computer so that if my >> >> >> laptop >> >> >> hard >> >> >> drive finally took a crap on me, I could simply get a new hard >> >> >> drive >> >> >> for >> >> >> it, >> >> >> install XP on it again, and drag and drop the files onto the hard >> >> >> drive... I >> >> >> don;t know if what I said made much sense, but I think some of you >> >> >> understand. See, waht I've done to my computer is tweaked the he|| >> >> >> out >> >> >> of >> >> >> it >> >> >> to make it go REALLY fast, and I've got quite a few prgrams on it >> >> >> that >> >> >> I >> >> >> would prefer NOT to have to reinstall because I would be here for >> >> >> days >> >> >> or >> >> >> even weeks, one of those prorgams including Windows Vista >> >> >> Transformation >> >> >> Pack >> >> >> 7 by Windows X-- a prorgam that transformed many of my system files >> >> >> to >> >> >> make >> >> >> my GUI look a LOT like vista. Some of you may disapprove of this >> >> >> for >> >> >> your >> >> >> own >> >> >> reasons, but I like the speed my desktop is at right now, the >> >> >> amount >> >> >> of >> >> >> space >> >> >> it is taking up, and what it looks like. >> >> >> >> >> >> anywyas, does anyone know how to do what I'm describing? So I don't >> >> >> have >> >> >> to >> >> >> reinstall anything-- just drag and rop the files in C:/ back to any >> >> >> new >> >> >> harddrive I might have to get? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thakns in advance! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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