Guest Plato Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista =?Utf-8?B?c2NvdHQ=?= wrote: > > I have XP running on my pc which has been activated and im going to format > and install Vista. http://www.theeldergeekvista.com/vista_clean_installation.htm http://www.theeldergeekvista.com/vista_upgrade_installation.htm http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista You really are pitiful. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message news:ObUtSjbwHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> If you don't agree to the EULA, you have no license to use the software. >> "Pretending" to agree, or reneging, do not constitute agreement. If you >> are relying upon other laws that govern the EULA in your locale, then you >> are presumably still party to the EULA -- you still agree to it and abide >> by it. It's also irrelevant to any of your argument thus far. >> > > It's the only way to install it. It's not my fault that it's a > unconscionable EULA. > > Alias
Guest Alias Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista Gary S. Terhune wrote: > You really are pitiful. > I love you too. Nonetheless, I have paid for three licenses that I have on three machines and don't feel one iota of guilt that one of the computers died and I bought a new one and installed the generic copy of XP that the dead computer had on it. Nor do I feel that I lack integrity for using what I paid for. Alias
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista We weren't speaking of your specific case. You were making general claims about integrity, claims which indicate you have none. Even your debating technique is pitiful. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message news:u1PQmLhwHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> You really are pitiful. >> > > I love you too. Nonetheless, I have paid for three licenses that I have on > three machines and don't feel one iota of guilt that one of the computers > died and I bought a new one and installed the generic copy of XP that the > dead computer had on it. Nor do I feel that I lack integrity for using > what I paid for. > > Alias
Guest Alias Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista Gary S. Terhune wrote: > We weren't speaking of your specific case. I used that as an example. > You were making general claims > about integrity, claims which indicate you have none. Your opinion. My opinion is that the EULA has no integrity and nor does WPA or WGA. > Even your debating > technique is pitiful. Ad hominens attacks like you use are universally accepted as an amateur way of debating. Alias
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista You are the one that brought your "integrity" (or lack thereof) into the debate, i.e., you made it about yourself. My comments are simply following that train of thought. A person with no integrity is pitiful, therefore you are pitiful. Even your "example" is pitiful. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message news:uW19dTkwHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> We weren't speaking of your specific case. > > I used that as an example. > >> You were making general claims about integrity, claims which indicate you >> have none. > > Your opinion. My opinion is that the EULA has no integrity and nor does > WPA or WGA. > >> Even your debating technique is pitiful. > > Ad hominens attacks like you use are universally accepted as an amateur > way of debating. > > Alias
Guest Alias Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista Gary S. Terhune wrote: > You are the one that brought your "integrity" (or lack thereof) into the > debate, i.e., you made it about yourself. No, Bruce brought my integrity up, not me. > My comments are simply following > that train of thought. A person with no integrity is pitiful, therefore you > are pitiful. Even your "example" is pitiful. Your opinion. Meanwhile, I am happily using the software I paid for. Alias
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message news:eUK4knkwHHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> You are the one that brought your "integrity" (or lack thereof) into the >> debate, i.e., you made it about yourself. > > No, Bruce brought my integrity up, not me. Not that I can see. You are the one who raised your own actions as some kind of example of "relative integrity". >> My comments are simply following that train of thought. A person with no >> integrity is pitiful, therefore you are pitiful. Even your "example" is >> pitiful. > > Your opinion. Meanwhile, I am happily using the software I paid for. According to you, the EULA (including applicable laws) does not prevent you from doing so. Fact is, I'm not clear that your actions violate the EULA, laws or not. Thus, it isn't a decent example of your argument that integrity is subjective. I, at least, recognize that I fall short in the department at times, but I have sufficient integrity left to admit it instead of rationalizing it away. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com
Guest Alias Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista Gary S. Terhune wrote: > "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message > news:eUK4knkwHHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>> You are the one that brought your "integrity" (or lack thereof) into the >>> debate, i.e., you made it about yourself. >> No, Bruce brought my integrity up, not me. > > Not that I can see. You are the one who raised your own actions as some kind > of example of "relative integrity". He accused me of having no integrity and that's how it started. > >>> My comments are simply following that train of thought. A person with no >>> integrity is pitiful, therefore you are pitiful. Even your "example" is >>> pitiful. >> Your opinion. Meanwhile, I am happily using the software I paid for. > > According to you, the EULA (including applicable laws) does not prevent you > from doing so. Fact is, I'm not clear that your actions violate the EULA, > laws or not. Thus, it isn't a decent example of your argument that integrity > is subjective. I, at least, recognize that I fall short in the department at > times, but I have sufficient integrity left to admit it instead of > rationalizing it away. What I did was install a generic OEM copy of XP that was on a computer that died on a new computer. Being as it was over 120 days since the last activation, it activated on line and passed all the WGA tests. Saint Bruce said that because I did that, I have no integrity: Alias wrote: > > If it's been over 120 days, it doesn't matter if it's a generic OEM .... It would matter if the OP has any integrity. Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell Alias
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista Alias wrote: > > > Your opinion. My opinion is that the EULA has no integrity and nor does > WPA or WGA. > This makes no sense, whatsoever. How can inanimate objects, documents, or computer programs possibly have integrity, except in the technical sense by functioning as designed? -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista This has gone on way too long. Time to finish the job and plonk you. Sorry, but I'm just no longer bored enough to continue. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message news:uW5Kd7kwHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message >> news:eUK4knkwHHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>> You are the one that brought your "integrity" (or lack thereof) into >>>> the debate, i.e., you made it about yourself. >>> No, Bruce brought my integrity up, not me. >> >> Not that I can see. You are the one who raised your own actions as some >> kind of example of "relative integrity". > > He accused me of having no integrity and that's how it started. Quote, please? >> >>>> My comments are simply following that train of thought. A person with >>>> no integrity is pitiful, therefore you are pitiful. Even your "example" >>>> is pitiful. >>> Your opinion. Meanwhile, I am happily using the software I paid for. >> >> According to you, the EULA (including applicable laws) does not prevent >> you from doing so. Fact is, I'm not clear that your actions violate the >> EULA, laws or not. Thus, it isn't a decent example of your argument that >> integrity is subjective. I, at least, recognize that I fall short in the >> department at times, but I have sufficient integrity left to admit it >> instead of rationalizing it away. > > What I did was install a generic OEM copy of XP that was on a computer > that died on a new computer. Being as it was over 120 days since the last > activation, it activated on line and passed all the WGA tests. Saint Bruce > said that because I did that, I have no integrity: > > Alias wrote: > > > > If it's been over 120 days, it doesn't matter if it's a generic OEM .... > > > It would matter if the OP has any integrity. > > > > > Bruce Chambers > > Help us help you: > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin > > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand > Russell > > Alias
Guest Alias Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista Saint Bruce Chambers wrote: > Alias wrote: >> >> >> Your opinion. My opinion is that the EULA has no integrity and nor >> does WPA or WGA. >> > > > This makes no sense, whatsoever. How can inanimate objects, > documents, or computer programs possibly have integrity, except in the > technical sense by functioning as designed? > > Picky, picky and here I was thinking you're a saint. The people who approved the EULA have no integrity, of course! Alias
Guest Alias Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista Gary S. Terhune wrote: > This has gone on way too long. Time to finish the job and plonk you. Sorry, > but I'm just no longer bored enough to continue. > Suit yourself. Alias
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Re: going from XP to Vista On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:36:31 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: > This has gone on way too long. Time to finish the job and plonk you. Yep! Join the rest of us who did it long ago. I wish everyone would do it. Then I not only wouldn't have to read his messages, but I wouldn't have to see the replies to him either. I wish newsreaders had kill files that let you check the attribution lines of messages. > Sorry, > but I'm just no longer bored enough to continue. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message > news:uW5Kd7kwHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: > >> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message > >> news:eUK4knkwHHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: > >>>> You are the one that brought your "integrity" (or lack thereof) into > >>>> the debate, i.e., you made it about yourself. > >>> No, Bruce brought my integrity up, not me. > >> > >> Not that I can see. You are the one who raised your own actions as some > >> kind of example of "relative integrity". > > > > He accused me of having no integrity and that's how it started. > > Quote, please? > > >> > >>>> My comments are simply following that train of thought. A person with > >>>> no integrity is pitiful, therefore you are pitiful. Even your "example" > >>>> is pitiful. > >>> Your opinion. Meanwhile, I am happily using the software I paid for. > >> > >> According to you, the EULA (including applicable laws) does not prevent > >> you from doing so. Fact is, I'm not clear that your actions violate the > >> EULA, laws or not. Thus, it isn't a decent example of your argument that > >> integrity is subjective. I, at least, recognize that I fall short in the > >> department at times, but I have sufficient integrity left to admit it > >> instead of rationalizing it away. > > > > What I did was install a generic OEM copy of XP that was on a computer > > that died on a new computer. Being as it was over 120 days since the last > > activation, it activated on line and passed all the WGA tests. Saint Bruce > > said that because I did that, I have no integrity: > > > > Alias wrote: > > > > > > If it's been over 120 days, it doesn't matter if it's a generic OEM .... > > > > > > It would matter if the OP has any integrity. > > > > > > > > > > Bruce Chambers > > > > Help us help you: > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin > > > > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand > > Russell > > > > Alias > -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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