Guest a Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Hi all, My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will cause this problem? VGA card? Thanks
Guest Kelly Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load Try another monitor and/or card. -- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm "a" <a@no.com> wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi all, > > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk > light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not > detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at > POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will cause this problem? > VGA card? > > Thanks > >
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "a" <a@no.com> wrote: >My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk >light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not >detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at >POST stage. Not necessarily. Is the hard drive light SOLID ON like the computer is locked up or is blinking as if normal processes are being run. If the latter, then it's either the monitor or the video card.
Guest a Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> ???????:pllv83lk7ie9p6ugfucduinlfs47gulr1o@4ax.com... > "a" <a@no.com> wrote: > > >My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk > >light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not > >detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at > >POST stage. > > Not necessarily. Is the hard drive light SOLID ON like the computer > is locked up or is blinking as if normal processes are being run. > > If the latter, then it's either the monitor or the video card. Thank you very much for your reply. The harddisk light is solid on like the computer is locked up. Now, it works fine, after a few more try. But, the BIOS prompt to reconfigure the CPU speed during the bootup. Is it indicating anything? Thanks
Guest Vanguard Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the > harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. > It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that > my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will > cause this problem? VGA card? Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "a" <a@mail.com> wrote: >> Not necessarily. Is the hard drive light SOLID ON like the computer >> is locked up or is blinking as if normal processes are being run. >> >> If the latter, then it's either the monitor or the video card. > >Thank you very much for your reply. >The harddisk light is solid on like the computer is locked up. >Now, it works fine, after a few more try. >But, the BIOS prompt to reconfigure the CPU speed during the bootup. >Is it indicating anything? Only that for some reason that setting in the BIOS was lost. If it was ONLY that setting that needed fixing, then your CPU might be going on the blink, but I don't recall seeing a situation where it went out, then came back. How old is the computer?
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote: >Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and >memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is >black, just how are you seeing those error messages? The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error messages. You're sounding like Plato.
Guest a Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> ???????:eegZQSMwHHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > "a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the > > harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. > > It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that > > my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will > > cause this problem? VGA card? > > > Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and > memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is > black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing > beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post? > I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at all. I have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up, finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure the CPU speed. My PC is around 7 year old.
Guest Vanguard Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message news:dpqv831m1smctcq61osl4vbqpr00lmptnv@4ax.com... > "Vanguard" wrote: > >>Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and >>memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is >>black, just how are you seeing those error messages? > > The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error > messages. > > You're sounding like Plato. So YOU are saying the OP is an idiot because he really hasn't a clue as to the cause of the problem and is making up even more problems. Close your eyes and cover with duct tape. Now manage to wander outside and walk down the street. How many people were on the street? How many cars were travelling down that busy downtown street? How many store signs were lighted versus printed? Well, duh, if you can't see then you can make all the worthless guesses you want. I don't need to bother stating what you are soundling like.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load Sounds like your motherboard is going bad. It's trying, even to the point of resetting CMOS (if that's even "intentional" and not the result of some major foul-up.) It might be another component (hard drive, video card, etc.) but I don't think so. I think it's the mobo itself. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "a" <a@mail.com> wrote in message news:%23xDqTONwHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> > ???????:eegZQSMwHHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> "a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the >> > harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. >> > It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that >> > my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will >> > cause this problem? VGA card? >> >> >> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and >> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is >> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing >> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post? >> > > I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at all. > I > have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up, > finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure the > CPU > speed. My PC is around 7 year old. > > >
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote: >> The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error >> messages. >> >> You're sounding like Plato. > >So YOU are saying the OP is an idiot because he really hasn't a clue as >to the cause of the problem and is making up even more problems. Never said that at all. In fact, his "guess" was better than what you came up with. I'm saying that YOU are the "idiot".
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: >I think it's the mobo itself. That's a good probability. Better than thinking that the CPU is failing.
Guest Vanguard Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message news:ekM9bcNwHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > "a" wrote ... >> >> "Vanguard" ... >>> >>> "a" wrote ... >>>> >>>> My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the >>>> harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at >>>> all. >>>> It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect >>>> that >>>> my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will >>>> cause this problem? VGA card? >>> >>> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor >>> and >>> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is >>> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you >>> hearing >>> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post? >> >> I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at >> all. I >> have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up, >> finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure >> the CPU >> speed. My PC is around 7 year old. > > Sounds like your motherboard is going bad. It's trying, even to the > point of resetting CMOS (if that's even "intentional" and not the > result of some major foul-up.) It might be another component (hard > drive, video card, etc.) but I don't think so. I think it's the mobo > itself. Other possibilities: - CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table won't hold and look corrupted. But that wouldn't explain why "there is no monitor signal at all" (which could mean the monitor is always black or it shows an "out of sync" or "no sync" message). - PSU is going bad and can't supply the required amperage or voltage regulation has become too poor or with too much ripple. - The OP says he hears no beeps. Assuming he has the internal speaker attached, there should be beeps when the POST completes. That there are no beeps means the computer isn't even starting the POST. So I'm back to BIOS corruption or PSU. - Possibly the CPU. As part of the POST, the BIOS tells the CPU to issue a Reset signal to all devices to put them into a known starting state (this is when you do a cold power start). The OP should see the Caps, Scroll, and Numlock LEDs flash on his keyboard during the POST as that is the reset signal. If he is using a USB keyboard, connect it via adapter to the PS/2 port if the LED flash isn't seen.
Guest Vanguard Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message news:9lvv839attku1e7l78flilb0r6fb8v61fn@4ax.com... > "Vanguard" wrote: > >>> The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error >>> messages. >>> >>> You're sounding like Plato. >> >>So YOU are saying the OP is an idiot because he really hasn't a clue >>as >>to the cause of the problem and is making up even more problems. > > Never said that at all. In fact, his "guess" was better than what you > came up with. I'm saying that YOU are the "idiot". So I infer that you claim the OP is lying. "there is no monitor signal at all" yet "It does not detect the processor and memory." Since no beep codes were mentioned (and the OP claims in another post that none are ever heard) then instead of guessing what would be shown if the monitor actually worked he is instead lying about the monitor not working? I didn't have to guess. Monitor not working. That means he will never see any error messages so there was no basis for his guesses. Gee, monitor is blank so it must be the vacuum cleaner over at my neighbor's house isn't running. Makes as much sense.
Guest nass Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the MOBO?. By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not able to retain the Settings and keep losing it. Did you added any thing recently to make this issue occur?. HTH. nass ------- http://www.nasstec.co.uk "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > Sounds like your motherboard is going bad. It's trying, even to the point of > resetting CMOS (if that's even "intentional" and not the result of some > major foul-up.) It might be another component (hard drive, video card, etc.) > but I don't think so. I think it's the mobo itself. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "a" <a@mail.com> wrote in message > news:%23xDqTONwHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> > > ???????:eegZQSMwHHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> "a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the > >> > harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. > >> > It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that > >> > my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will > >> > cause this problem? VGA card? > >> > >> > >> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and > >> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is > >> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing > >> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post? > >> > > > > I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at all. > > I > > have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up, > > finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure the > > CPU > > speed. My PC is around 7 year old. > > > > > > > > >
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote: >Other possibilities: > >- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table >won't hold and look corrupted. I'll stop with that one since it's completely absurd (I'm sure the rest of your post had equally absurd statements).. If that battery was going bad and caused a loss of the CMOS settings, then more than CPU speed would have needed resetting. You're a hazard here to anyone who accepts your advice.
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load nass <nass@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the MOBO?. >By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not able >to retain the Settings and keep losing it. You're a loser too. A bad CMOS battery would result in the loss of ALL CMOS settings. And the OP wouldn't have eventually been able to boot without setting ALL of those.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load I will accept that a bad PSU might be a decent candidate. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:hg1093h5utsgbjc86a5uc262viivqvf2rj@4ax.com... > "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote: > >>Other possibilities: >> >>- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table >>won't hold and look corrupted. > > I'll stop with that one since it's completely absurd (I'm sure the > rest of your post had equally absurd statements).. > > If that battery was going bad and caused a loss of the CMOS settings, > then more than CPU speed would have needed resetting. > > You're a hazard here to anyone who accepts your advice.
Guest nass Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Uncle Grumpy" wrote: > nass <nass@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the MOBO?. > >By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not able > >to retain the Settings and keep losing it. > > You're a loser too. A bad CMOS battery would result in the loss of > ALL CMOS settings. > > And the OP wouldn't have eventually been able to boot without setting > ALL of those. Something for you to think about it, if the OP Computer that Old then the CMOS Battery is too old and causing this issue. Then there is no need to argue just prove your point with technical advice to the OP. You done no more answers to your Posts in the future???????<G> HTH. nass ------- http://www.nasstec.co.uk
Guest Vanguard Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message news:hg1093h5utsgbjc86a5uc262viivqvf2rj@4ax.com... > "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote: > >>Other possibilities: >> >>- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table >>won't hold and look corrupted. > > I'll stop with that one since it's completely absurd (I'm sure the > rest of your post had equally absurd statements).. You may be Grumpy but you are obviously not old enough to have seen the "CRC error" message when the contents of the CMOS table don't generate the hash that was saved in it to validate the settings.
Guest Vanguard Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load "Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message news:bm1093dq5ektvsdmcg4r2q42qvrc7f54dv@4ax.com... > nass wrote: > >>Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the >>MOBO?. >>By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not >>able >>to retain the Settings and keep losing it. > > You're a loser too. A bad CMOS battery would result in the loss of > ALL CMOS settings. > > And the OP wouldn't have eventually been able to boot without setting > ALL of those. Well, we've got ourselves another troll. Time to update the killfile.
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Re: XP cannot load nass <nass@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Something for you to think about it, if the OP Computer that Old then the >CMOS Battery is too old and causing this issue. Is English your first language?
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