XP cannot load

[Guest a]

Hi all,

 

My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk

light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not

detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at

POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will cause this problem? VGA

card?

 

Thanks

[Guest Kelly]

Re: XP cannot load

 

Try another monitor and/or card.

 

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"a" <a@no.com> wrote in message

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> Hi all,

>

> My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk

> light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not

> detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at

> POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will cause this problem?

> VGA card?

>

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

 

"a" <a@no.com> wrote:

>My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk

>light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not

>detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at

>POST stage.

 

Not necessarily. Is the hard drive light SOLID ON like the computer

is locked up or is blinking as if normal processes are being run.

 

If the latter, then it's either the monitor or the video card.

[Guest a]

Re: XP cannot load

 

"Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net>

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> "a" <a@no.com> wrote:

>

> >My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk

> >light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not

> >detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at

> >POST stage.

>

> Not necessarily. Is the hard drive light SOLID ON like the computer

> is locked up or is blinking as if normal processes are being run.

>

> If the latter, then it's either the monitor or the video card.

 

Thank you very much for your reply.

The harddisk light is solid on like the computer is locked up.

Now, it works fine, after a few more try.

But, the BIOS prompt to reconfigure the CPU speed during the bootup.

Is it indicating anything?

 

Thanks

[Guest Vanguard]

Re: XP cannot load

 

"a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the

> harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all.

> It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that

> my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will

> cause this problem? VGA card?

 

 

Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and

memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is

black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing

beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

 

"a" <a@mail.com> wrote:

>> Not necessarily. Is the hard drive light SOLID ON like the computer

>> is locked up or is blinking as if normal processes are being run.

>>

>> If the latter, then it's either the monitor or the video card.

>

>Thank you very much for your reply.

>The harddisk light is solid on like the computer is locked up.

>Now, it works fine, after a few more try.

>But, the BIOS prompt to reconfigure the CPU speed during the bootup.

>Is it indicating anything?

 

Only that for some reason that setting in the BIOS was lost. If it

was ONLY that setting that needed fixing, then your CPU might be going

on the blink, but I don't recall seeing a situation where it went out,

then came back.

 

How old is the computer?

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

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"Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote:

>Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and

>memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is

>black, just how are you seeing those error messages?

 

The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error

messages.

 

You're sounding like Plato.

[Guest a]

Re: XP cannot load

 

 

"Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid>

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> "a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the

> > harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all.

> > It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that

> > my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will

> > cause this problem? VGA card?

>

>

> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and

> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is

> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing

> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?

>

 

I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at all. I

have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up,

finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure the CPU

speed. My PC is around 7 year old.

[Guest Vanguard]

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"Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message

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> "Vanguard" wrote:

>

>>Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and

>>memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is

>>black, just how are you seeing those error messages?

>

> The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error

> messages.

>

> You're sounding like Plato.

 

 

So YOU are saying the OP is an idiot because he really hasn't a clue as

to the cause of the problem and is making up even more problems.

 

Close your eyes and cover with duct tape. Now manage to wander outside

and walk down the street. How many people were on the street? How many

cars were travelling down that busy downtown street? How many store

signs were lighted versus printed? Well, duh, if you can't see then you

can make all the worthless guesses you want.

 

I don't need to bother stating what you are soundling like.

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: XP cannot load

 

Sounds like your motherboard is going bad. It's trying, even to the point of

resetting CMOS (if that's even "intentional" and not the result of some

major foul-up.) It might be another component (hard drive, video card, etc.)

but I don't think so. I think it's the mobo itself.

 

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MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"a" <a@mail.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid>

> ???????:eegZQSMwHHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> "a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the

>> > harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all.

>> > It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that

>> > my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will

>> > cause this problem? VGA card?

>>

>>

>> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and

>> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is

>> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing

>> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?

>>

>

> I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at all.

> I

> have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up,

> finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure the

> CPU

> speed. My PC is around 7 year old.

>

>

>

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

 

"Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote:

>> The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error

>> messages.

>>

>> You're sounding like Plato.

>

>So YOU are saying the OP is an idiot because he really hasn't a clue as

>to the cause of the problem and is making up even more problems.

 

Never said that at all. In fact, his "guess" was better than what you

came up with. I'm saying that YOU are the "idiot".

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>I think it's the mobo itself.

 

That's a good probability. Better than thinking that the CPU is

failing.

[Guest Vanguard]

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"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message

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>

> "a" wrote ...

>>

>> "Vanguard" ...

>>>

>>> "a" wrote ...

>>>>

>>>> My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the

>>>> harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at

>>>> all.

>>>> It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect

>>>> that

>>>> my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will

>>>> cause this problem? VGA card?

>>>

>>> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor

>>> and

>>> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is

>>> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you

>>> hearing

>>> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?

>>

>> I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at

>> all. I

>> have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up,

>> finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure

>> the CPU

>> speed. My PC is around 7 year old.

>

> Sounds like your motherboard is going bad. It's trying, even to the

> point of resetting CMOS (if that's even "intentional" and not the

> result of some major foul-up.) It might be another component (hard

> drive, video card, etc.) but I don't think so. I think it's the mobo

> itself.

 

Other possibilities:

 

- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table

won't hold and look corrupted. But that wouldn't explain why "there is

no monitor signal at all" (which could mean the monitor is always black

or it shows an "out of sync" or "no sync" message).

- PSU is going bad and can't supply the required amperage or voltage

regulation has become too poor or with too much ripple.

- The OP says he hears no beeps. Assuming he has the internal speaker

attached, there should be beeps when the POST completes. That there are

no beeps means the computer isn't even starting the POST. So I'm back

to BIOS corruption or PSU.

- Possibly the CPU. As part of the POST, the BIOS tells the CPU to

issue a Reset signal to all devices to put them into a known starting

state (this is when you do a cold power start). The OP should see the

Caps, Scroll, and Numlock LEDs flash on his keyboard during the POST as

that is the reset signal. If he is using a USB keyboard, connect it via

adapter to the PS/2 port if the LED flash isn't seen.

[Guest Vanguard]

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"Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message

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> "Vanguard" wrote:

>

>>> The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error

>>> messages.

>>>

>>> You're sounding like Plato.

>>

>>So YOU are saying the OP is an idiot because he really hasn't a clue

>>as

>>to the cause of the problem and is making up even more problems.

>

> Never said that at all. In fact, his "guess" was better than what you

> came up with. I'm saying that YOU are the "idiot".

 

 

So I infer that you claim the OP is lying. "there is no monitor signal

at all" yet "It does not detect the processor and memory." Since no

beep codes were mentioned (and the OP claims in another post that none

are ever heard) then instead of guessing what would be shown if the

monitor actually worked he is instead lying about the monitor not

working?

 

I didn't have to guess. Monitor not working. That means he will never

see any error messages so there was no basis for his guesses. Gee,

monitor is blank so it must be the vacuum cleaner over at my neighbor's

house isn't running. Makes as much sense.

[Guest nass]

Re: XP cannot load

 

 

Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the MOBO?.

By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not able

to retain the Settings and keep losing it.

Did you added any thing recently to make this issue occur?.

HTH.

nass

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"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Sounds like your motherboard is going bad. It's trying, even to the point of

> resetting CMOS (if that's even "intentional" and not the result of some

> major foul-up.) It might be another component (hard drive, video card, etc.)

> but I don't think so. I think it's the mobo itself.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "a" <a@mail.com> wrote in message

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> >

> > "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid>

> > ???????:eegZQSMwHHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> "a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the

> >> > harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all.

> >> > It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that

> >> > my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will

> >> > cause this problem? VGA card?

> >>

> >>

> >> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and

> >> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is

> >> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing

> >> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?

> >>

> >

> > I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at all.

> > I

> > have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up,

> > finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure the

> > CPU

> > speed. My PC is around 7 year old.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

 

"Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote:

>Other possibilities:

>

>- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table

>won't hold and look corrupted.

 

I'll stop with that one since it's completely absurd (I'm sure the

rest of your post had equally absurd statements)..

 

If that battery was going bad and caused a loss of the CMOS settings,

then more than CPU speed would have needed resetting.

 

You're a hazard here to anyone who accepts your advice.

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

 

nass <nass@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the MOBO?.

>By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not able

>to retain the Settings and keep losing it.

 

You're a loser too. A bad CMOS battery would result in the loss of

ALL CMOS settings.

 

And the OP wouldn't have eventually been able to boot without setting

ALL of those.

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: XP cannot load

 

I will accept that a bad PSU might be a decent candidate.

 

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"Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote in message

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> "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote:

>

>>Other possibilities:

>>

>>- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table

>>won't hold and look corrupted.

>

> I'll stop with that one since it's completely absurd (I'm sure the

> rest of your post had equally absurd statements)..

>

> If that battery was going bad and caused a loss of the CMOS settings,

> then more than CPU speed would have needed resetting.

>

> You're a hazard here to anyone who accepts your advice.

[Guest nass]

Re: XP cannot load

 

 

 

"Uncle Grumpy" wrote:

> nass <nass@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

> >Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the MOBO?.

> >By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not able

> >to retain the Settings and keep losing it.

>

> You're a loser too. A bad CMOS battery would result in the loss of

> ALL CMOS settings.

>

> And the OP wouldn't have eventually been able to boot without setting

> ALL of those.

 

Something for you to think about it, if the OP Computer that Old then the

CMOS Battery is too old and causing this issue.

 

Then there is no need to argue just prove your point with technical advice

to the OP.

You done no more answers to your Posts in the future???????<G>

HTH.

nass

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[Guest Vanguard]

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"Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message

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> "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote:

>

>>Other possibilities:

>>

>>- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table

>>won't hold and look corrupted.

>

> I'll stop with that one since it's completely absurd (I'm sure the

> rest of your post had equally absurd statements)..

 

You may be Grumpy but you are obviously not old enough to have seen the

"CRC error" message when the contents of the CMOS table don't generate

the hash that was saved in it to validate the settings.

[Guest Vanguard]

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"Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message

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> nass wrote:

>

>>Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the

>>MOBO?.

>>By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not

>>able

>>to retain the Settings and keep losing it.

>

> You're a loser too. A bad CMOS battery would result in the loss of

> ALL CMOS settings.

>

> And the OP wouldn't have eventually been able to boot without setting

> ALL of those.

 

 

Well, we've got ourselves another troll. Time to update the killfile.

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

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nass <nass@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Something for you to think about it, if the OP Computer that Old then the

>CMOS Battery is too old and causing this issue.

 

Is English your first language?