Unable to Register Win98SE online...

July 8, 2007

I installed Windows 98 SE yesterday and have been trying to Register it via

the online process. I run the registration wizard, fill out all the info,

regwiz dials microsoft, authenticates on the network, and connects to the MSN

Site.

At which point it sits for a few minutes and finally hangs up with the msg:

"The Microsoft Registration web site is currently busy, try registering

again."

The problem is - I've received this message all yesterday afternoon, all

last night, and now today too.

My Question is - Is Msft currently allowing Win98SE registrations?, did

that go away with the dropping of Win98 support?, or is the registration web

site just down for now and will be back up at some point?

Thanks!

July 8, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

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<JWBDolphins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

news:1C162EFE-F66E-4140-871A-6503F229E1D3@microsoft.com:

> I installed Windows 98 SE yesterday and have been trying to

> Register it via the online process. I run the registration

> wizard, fill out all the info, regwiz dials microsoft,

> authenticates on the network, and connects to the MSN Site.

>

> At which point it sits for a few minutes and finally hangs

> up with the msg:

>

> "The Microsoft Registration web site is currently busy, try

> registering again."

>

> The problem is - I've received this message all yesterday

> afternoon, all last night, and now today too.

>

> My Question is - Is Msft currently allowing Win98SE

> registrations?, did that go away with the dropping of Win98

> support?, or is the registration web site just down for now

> and will be back up at some point?

>

> Thanks!

Here's a question for YOU:

WHY bother registering ANYTHING from ANY software company let

alone a no-longer supported product from someone like Microsoft?

--

Any mental activity is easy if it need not be subjected to

reality.

July 8, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

"thanatoid" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?SldCRG9scGhpbnM=?=

> <JWBDolphins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> news:1C162EFE-F66E-4140-871A-6503F229E1D3@microsoft.com:

>

> > I installed Windows 98 SE yesterday and have been trying to

> > Register it via the online process. I run the registration

> > wizard, fill out all the info, regwiz dials microsoft,

> > authenticates on the network, and connects to the MSN Site.

> >

> > At which point it sits for a few minutes and finally hangs

> > up with the msg:

> >

> > "The Microsoft Registration web site is currently busy, try

> > registering again."

> >

> > The problem is - I've received this message all yesterday

> > afternoon, all last night, and now today too.

> >

> > My Question is - Is Msft currently allowing Win98SE

> > registrations?, did that go away with the dropping of Win98

> > support?, or is the registration web site just down for now

> > and will be back up at some point?

> >

> > Thanks!

>

> Here's a question for YOU:

> WHY bother registering ANYTHING from ANY software company let

> alone a no-longer supported product from someone like Microsoft?

>

> --

> Any mental activity is easy if it need not be subjected to

> reality.

>

Good question - here's the answer (and what would be my follow-up question

depending on what response I got back). I have a WinXP Home Upgrade that I

want to do. I've not yet opened the box, though, because I can't return it

unopened (supposedly) and it says I need a registered version of Win98

installed first. IE, save me the cost of a full-blown version of WinXP vs

the Upgrade. So - if I can get Win98 registered, I should be good for the

WinXP upgrade.

My follow-up question is then - DO I really need to get Win98 registered to

do this?, or will the WinXP Upgrade just ask to "see" the Win98 Install CD -

which I obviously have - and it will then install correctly? I'm 95% sure

that Will work - but before I open it, I'd like as much assurance as I can

that this Will work. Otherwise I may have to go fight with Best Buy! :-)

July 8, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

"JWBDolphins" wrote:

>

> "thanatoid" wrote:

>

> > =?Utf-8?B?SldCRG9scGhpbnM=?=

> > <JWBDolphins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> > news:1C162EFE-F66E-4140-871A-6503F229E1D3@microsoft.com:

> >

> > > I installed Windows 98 SE yesterday and have been trying to

> > > Register it via the online process. I run the registration

> > > wizard, fill out all the info, regwiz dials microsoft,

> > > authenticates on the network, and connects to the MSN Site.

> > >

> > > At which point it sits for a few minutes and finally hangs

> > > up with the msg:

> > >

> > > "The Microsoft Registration web site is currently busy, try

> > > registering again."

> > >

> > > The problem is - I've received this message all yesterday

> > > afternoon, all last night, and now today too.

> > >

> > > My Question is - Is Msft currently allowing Win98SE

> > > registrations?, did that go away with the dropping of Win98

> > > support?, or is the registration web site just down for now

> > > and will be back up at some point?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> >

> > Here's a question for YOU:

> > WHY bother registering ANYTHING from ANY software company let

> > alone a no-longer supported product from someone like Microsoft?

> >

> > --

> > Any mental activity is easy if it need not be subjected to

> > reality.

> >

Good question - here's the answer (and what would be my follow-up question

depending on what response I got back). I have a WinXP Home Upgrade that I

want to do. I've not yet opened the box, though, because I can't return it

once opened (supposedly) and it says I need a registered version of Win98

installed first. IE, save me the cost of a full-blown version of WinXP vs

the Upgrade. So - if I can get Win98 registered, I should be good for the

WinXP upgrade.

My follow-up question is then - DO I really need to get Win98 registered to

do this?, or will the WinXP Upgrade just ask to "see" the Win98 Install CD -

which I obviously have - and it will then install correctly? I'm 95% sure

that Will work - but before I open it, I'd like as much assurance as I can

that this Will work. Otherwise I may have to go fight with Best Buy! :-)

July 8, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

You don't need to register the software, not even to use it as an Upgrade

eligibility. Note that I do not recommend an Upgrade in place (install WinXP

over Win98.) Do a "clean" install and when asked to prove eligibility,

insert the Win98 installation CD. That's all you need to do.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"JWBDolphins" <JWBDolphins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A1C8DF20-F695-4D07-BD97-F2B58E7493F9@microsoft.com...

>

> "thanatoid" wrote:

>

>> =?Utf-8?B?SldCRG9scGhpbnM=?=

>> <JWBDolphins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> news:1C162EFE-F66E-4140-871A-6503F229E1D3@microsoft.com:

>>

>> > I installed Windows 98 SE yesterday and have been trying to

>> > Register it via the online process. I run the registration

>> > wizard, fill out all the info, regwiz dials microsoft,

>> > authenticates on the network, and connects to the MSN Site.

>> >

>> > At which point it sits for a few minutes and finally hangs

>> > up with the msg:

>> >

>> > "The Microsoft Registration web site is currently busy, try

>> > registering again."

>> >

>> > The problem is - I've received this message all yesterday

>> > afternoon, all last night, and now today too.

>> >

>> > My Question is - Is Msft currently allowing Win98SE

>> > registrations?, did that go away with the dropping of Win98

>> > support?, or is the registration web site just down for now

>> > and will be back up at some point?

>> >

>> > Thanks!

>>

>> Here's a question for YOU:

>> WHY bother registering ANYTHING from ANY software company let

>> alone a no-longer supported product from someone like Microsoft?

>>

>> --

>> Any mental activity is easy if it need not be subjected to

>> reality.

>>

>

> Good question - here's the answer (and what would be my follow-up question

> depending on what response I got back). I have a WinXP Home Upgrade that

> I

> want to do. I've not yet opened the box, though, because I can't return

> it

> unopened (supposedly) and it says I need a registered version of Win98

> installed first. IE, save me the cost of a full-blown version of WinXP vs

> the Upgrade. So - if I can get Win98 registered, I should be good for the

> WinXP upgrade.

>

> My follow-up question is then - DO I really need to get Win98 registered

> to

> do this?, or will the WinXP Upgrade just ask to "see" the Win98 Install

> CD -

> which I obviously have - and it will then install correctly? I'm 95% sure

> that Will work - but before I open it, I'd like as much assurance as I can

> that this Will work. Otherwise I may have to go fight with Best Buy! :-)

July 8, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

Registration is and always was optional. I have never seen an upgrade that required

a registered product. You need a licensed product, but that has nothing to do with

registering.

I doubt the Win98 registration process works any longer. It is no longer a

supported operating system, so registration would not serve any purpose any longer

AFAIK.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"JWBDolphins" <JWBDolphins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>

> "thanatoid" wrote:

>

>> =?Utf-8?B?SldCRG9scGhpbnM=?=

>> <JWBDolphins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> news:1C162EFE-F66E-4140-871A-6503F229E1D3@microsoft.com:

>>

>> > I installed Windows 98 SE yesterday and have been trying to

>> > Register it via the online process. I run the registration

>> > wizard, fill out all the info, regwiz dials microsoft,

>> > authenticates on the network, and connects to the MSN Site.

>> >

>> > At which point it sits for a few minutes and finally hangs

>> > up with the msg:

>> >

>> > "The Microsoft Registration web site is currently busy, try

>> > registering again."

>> >

>> > The problem is - I've received this message all yesterday

>> > afternoon, all last night, and now today too.

>> >

>> > My Question is - Is Msft currently allowing Win98SE

>> > registrations?, did that go away with the dropping of Win98

>> > support?, or is the registration web site just down for now

>> > and will be back up at some point?

>> >

>> > Thanks!

>>

>> Here's a question for YOU:

>> WHY bother registering ANYTHING from ANY software company let

>> alone a no-longer supported product from someone like Microsoft?

>>

>> --

>> Any mental activity is easy if it need not be subjected to

>> reality.

>>

>

> Good question - here's the answer (and what would be my follow-up question

> depending on what response I got back). I have a WinXP Home Upgrade that I

> want to do. I've not yet opened the box, though, because I can't return it

> unopened (supposedly) and it says I need a registered version of Win98

> installed first. IE, save me the cost of a full-blown version of WinXP vs

> the Upgrade. So - if I can get Win98 registered, I should be good for the

> WinXP upgrade.

>

> My follow-up question is then - DO I really need to get Win98 registered to

> do this?, or will the WinXP Upgrade just ask to "see" the Win98 Install CD -

> which I obviously have - and it will then install correctly? I'm 95% sure

> that Will work - but before I open it, I'd like as much assurance as I can

> that this Will work. Otherwise I may have to go fight with Best Buy! :-)

July 8, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

You probably hit the nail on the head there, Glen. The requirement is that

the copy of 98 be properly licensed, not registered. Proper license simply

means that you legitimately own the copy, that it's a legitimate copy, and

that you use it in accordance with the EULA. No interaction with MS is

required.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

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> Registration is and always was optional. I have never seen an upgrade

> that required a registered product. You need a licensed product, but that

> has nothing to do with registering.

>

> I doubt the Win98 registration process works any longer. It is no longer

> a supported operating system, so registration would not serve any purpose

> any longer AFAIK.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> http://dts-l.org/

> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

> "JWBDolphins" <JWBDolphins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:A1C8DF20-F695-4D07-BD97-F2B58E7493F9@microsoft.com...

>>

>> "thanatoid" wrote:

>>

>>> =?Utf-8?B?SldCRG9scGhpbnM=?=

>>> <JWBDolphins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>>> news:1C162EFE-F66E-4140-871A-6503F229E1D3@microsoft.com:

>>>

>>> > I installed Windows 98 SE yesterday and have been trying to

>>> > Register it via the online process. I run the registration

>>> > wizard, fill out all the info, regwiz dials microsoft,

>>> > authenticates on the network, and connects to the MSN Site.

>>> >

>>> > At which point it sits for a few minutes and finally hangs

>>> > up with the msg:

>>> >

>>> > "The Microsoft Registration web site is currently busy, try

>>> > registering again."

>>> >

>>> > The problem is - I've received this message all yesterday

>>> > afternoon, all last night, and now today too.

>>> >

>>> > My Question is - Is Msft currently allowing Win98SE

>>> > registrations?, did that go away with the dropping of Win98

>>> > support?, or is the registration web site just down for now

>>> > and will be back up at some point?

>>> >

>>> > Thanks!

>>>

>>> Here's a question for YOU:

>>> WHY bother registering ANYTHING from ANY software company let

>>> alone a no-longer supported product from someone like Microsoft?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Any mental activity is easy if it need not be subjected to

>>> reality.

>>>

>>

>> Good question - here's the answer (and what would be my follow-up

>> question

>> depending on what response I got back). I have a WinXP Home Upgrade that

>> I

>> want to do. I've not yet opened the box, though, because I can't return

>> it

>> unopened (supposedly) and it says I need a registered version of Win98

>> installed first. IE, save me the cost of a full-blown version of WinXP

>> vs

>> the Upgrade. So - if I can get Win98 registered, I should be good for

>> the

>> WinXP upgrade.

>>

>> My follow-up question is then - DO I really need to get Win98 registered

>> to

>> do this?, or will the WinXP Upgrade just ask to "see" the Win98 Install

>> CD -

>> which I obviously have - and it will then install correctly? I'm 95%

>> sure

>> that Will work - but before I open it, I'd like as much assurance as I

>> can

>> that this Will work. Otherwise I may have to go fight with Best Buy!

>> :-)

>

July 9, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

"JWBDolphins" <JWBDolphins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:1C162EFE-F66E-4140-871A-6503F229E1D3@microsoft.com...

| I installed Windows 98 SE yesterday and have been trying to Register it

via

| the online process. I run the registration wizard, fill out all the info,

| regwiz dials microsoft, authenticates on the network, and connects to the

MSN

| Site.

|

| At which point it sits for a few minutes and finally hangs up with the

msg:

|

| "The Microsoft Registration web site is currently busy, try registering

| again."

|

| The problem is - I've received this message all yesterday afternoon, all

| last night, and now today too.

|

| My Question is - Is Msft currently allowing Win98SE registrations?, did

| that go away with the dropping of Win98 support?, or is the registration

web

| site just down for now and will be back up at some point?

|

| Thanks!

|

I suppose the reason no one has answered is that no one knows how to

exactly answer that question without opening the door to the people who will

point to this as some form of authorization to pirate the OS..

The registration process for 98 has ended as far as I know. As you note,

support ended. If you bought a legal copy, then the EULA still binds you to

the law as effectively as it did when it was supported. The EULA would also

bind you even without a legal copy since you unlawfully installed it. Though

support ended, the EULA never will unless legally retracted by Microsoft

[and agreed to by the other parties].

If you're actually interested in whether you have a legal product, search

for 98 downloads on Microsoft Downloads Center for ones requiring Genuine

Advantage to download. Instead of clicking the *Verify Now* button, right

click on the button to download the file [GenuineCheck.exe]. Another way to

obtain the file is to click the button [while Explorer is open to Temporary

Internet Files, and "catch"/copy the file, while the file is there, and copy

to another folder].

Install/run the file after you download it, highlight the verification

number [copy to clipboard], shutdown the IE browser [to allow the ActiveX to

install and Genuine Check to run] restart the browser, go that page again,

click *Verify Now*, paste the code into it, and it will check for validity.

If you try to do so directly from the page without using this technique, it

will pop-up as an unsupported product. Doing it this way pops-up the Thank

You and the ability to sign up for Genuine Advantage extras, which no longer

apply to your product, and to download the file/update.

[For those suggesting Microsoft does know or can't check the legality of

your product, this will verify one way in which Microsoft can.].

As for what to do generally:

You will need IE 5.01 {at least, some say 5.5} installed to access

WindowsUpdate.

Go to WindowsUpdate and update the product, or otherwise update the product

to the extent you need. Pay particular attention to the system file updates

[many of which may not be found on WindowsUpdate] and PARTICULARLY IE 6

updates if you intend to attempt using it.

Just be glad you have Win98 and not XP or VISTA, when support ends there

will apparently be no legal way to activate the product, should it be

necessary to do so.

And for the interested, here are key elements from Gary Terhune's [MVP]

[re-posted without his permission though I'm sure he won't mind] exploration

into the updates issues for 98FE/Gold and SE [when was that? January 2006?]:

WINDOWS 98 UPDATES part 1

Several people have asked recently about various Windows Updates. Like how

many have been issued since the Windows Updates Security CD was released,

how many of Win98 Gold's patches were subsumed into Win98SE, etc.

There are two major difficulties in this experiment. First, you can't get to

Windows Updates using Win98 Gold right out of the box. It requires a minimum

of IE 5.01; secondly, Internet Explorer is further an issue because which

updates you are offered depends in great part on what version of IE you have

installed. But it's very difficult to say, "Ignore the IE Updates and only

focus on the non-IE updates," since IE is an integral part of Windows 9x,

especially since the advent of IE 5. A similar issue applies to Windows

Media Player. In a similar vein, many updates that were previously offered

to Win98 users have been made obsolete by newer versions. For instance,

there is no IE 5 version of any kind offered at Windows Updates these days,

only IE6SP1. Thus, the only IE Updates I see before installing IE 6.1 are

those offered to IE 5.01.

In short, there are no simple answers to the questions posed -- no single

answer to the question, "How many updates (and which) were offered to Win98

Gold that were subsumed into Win98SE," because SE included IE 5.01 and WMP

6.4 (I think), thus obviating all IE4 and earlier WMP updates. So, I will do

my best to chronicle and document the steps I'm taking and let others decide

what's important to them. Note: I did *not* return to the bad old days and

peruse the Corporate Updates site for pre-IE5 Updates. Someone else can do

that. I do recall at one time being an expert jockey of said site, but my

mind is fragile these days...

First thing I did was to install Windows 98 Gold (MSDN version which is

essentially the same as retail.) I installed all optional components. I then

installed Service Pack 1, which includes the following:

--Both Y2K Updates

--Active Accessibility update

--Q189591 Computer Does Not Resume To Recognize USB Device From Standby

--Q222600 Bulk Transfer URLs Can Specify More Than 64 Bytes

--Q220586 Computer with Plug and Play Network Adapter Is Not Found (only

affects Win98 systems that were upgraded from Win95)

--Q178979 System Policy to Require Validation by Network May Not Work

--Q216641 Computer Hangs After 49.7 Days

--Q216565 New Dialing Rules for Spain and Italy Require TAPI Update

I did *not* install any Service Packs for IE 4.1 or patches depending on IE4

or it's SPs. Q234680, for instance, is a patch to OE 4SP2.

I then installed IE 5.01, all optional components selected except specific

languages in the Multi-language section. Now I'm able to access Windows

Updates. Upon doing so, there are seven Optional and 20 Critical Updates

offered. One, of course, is IE6SP1. In earlier times, that one would have

been some earlier version of IE. (Note: The Criticals list is mostly in

reverse chronological order because that's the way Windows Updates lists

them.)

-----Optional Components-----

--DirectX 9.0c End-User Runtime

--Registration Wizard Update

--Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1

--Windows Critical Update Notification 4.0

--Internet Explorer Navigation Sound Update

--Euro Conversion Tool

--Agent 2.0

--------Critical Updates--------

--IE6.1 Note: Because this is offered, no other updates for IE 5.01 are

offered.

--Security Update, February 14, 2002 (note: this is MS02-009)

--Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)

--Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891781)

--823559: Security Update for Microsoft Windows

--816093: Security Update for Microsoft Virtual Machine (Microsoft VM)

--814078: Security Update (Microsoft JScript version 5.1, Windows 98 and

Windows NT 4.0)

--Q329414: Security Update (MDAC 2.1)

--Q329115: Security Update (Windows 98)

--Windows Share Level Password Update

--Q323172 Security Update (Windows 98)

--Q323255 Security Update (Windows 98)

--Security Update, May 19, 2000 (note: this is MS00-029)

--Security Update, March 17, 2000 (note: this is MS00-017)

--Q320920 Security Update (Windows Media Player 6.4)

--Security Update 2, November 29, 1999 (note: this is MS99-052

--Security Update November 12, 1999 (note: this is MS99-049)

--Security Update March 7, 1999 (note: the Security Bulletin for this was

updated to MS02-14)

--Security Update November 20, 2001 (note: this is MS01-056)

--Security Update April 2, 2001 (note: this is MS01-017)

Next, without installing any of the above Updates, I installed the Microsoft

Windows Security Update CD. Upon returning to Windows Updates, I discover

the following:

Optional Updates: The same seven optional updates are offered as before.

While the Security CD included DirectX9, it wasn't the latest version,

DirectX 9.0c. An additional thirty-four Updates are offered, all of them

Language Support.

Critical Updates: 10 are offered, of which

--905915 (IE 6.1)

--837009 (OE 6.1)

--833989 (IE 6.1)

--908519 (a recently discovered networking issue, "Embedded Web Font

Vulnerability", that affects all 9x and NT systems.)

--904706 (DX 9)

--896358 (HTML Help vulnerability)

--888113 (Hyperlink Object Library vuln.)

--891711 (Cursor & Icon Format vuln.)

--891781 (DHTML Editing Component ActiveX vuln.)

--816093 (Security Update for Microsoft Virtual Machine)

That last one for VM is the only one remaining from the previous list. The

rest are either more recently discovered vulnerabilities or are patches to

the software installed by the Security CD.

I then installed all ten Critical Updates. Upon returning to Windows

Updates, no further Critical Updates are offered. The same seven optional

Updates are offered. I then installed DirectX 9.0c (which must be installed

separately.) Upon returning to Windows Updates, no further Critical Updates

were offered. I proceeded to install the remaining six Optional Updates.

Returning to Windows Updates yet again, I find two additional Critical

Updates.

--873374 (GDI+ Detection Tool -- Why I wasn't offered this earlier, I don't

know.)

--.NET Framework SP1

I installed both, and ran the GDI+ Detection tool. It seemed to say that I

had some kind of vulnerability, but I found no useful remedies, nor am I

sure what app it was flagging. This is a clean install. Anyway, after

installing the .NET Framework SP1, that was it. No more Updates offered.

Now, there remains at least one variation to try: What happens when I

install the Security CD right after installing WIn98. Are *all* of the

earlier issues I patched with most of Windows 98 Service Pack 1 covered?

Furthermore, there is WIn98SE to research, and finally, we'll see if we can

positively identify the specific patches from Win98 Gold that were subsumed

into SE -- besides the IE-specific ones. Stay tuned...

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS MVP Shell/User

WINDOWS 98SE PART 2 update cycle

OK, here's the results from Windows 98SE. I first clean-installed Win98SE

(MSDN), installed a couple of drivers, then visited Windows Updates. Here's

what I found:

Optional Updates (8):

--DirectX 9.0c

--Windows Critical Update Notification 4.0

--Internet Explorer Navigation Sound Update

--Euro Conversion Tool

--Agent 2.0

--Windows IDE Hard Drive Cache Package (Win98SE-specific)

--Mapped Drives Shutdown Update

--Media Player 9 Series

Critical Updates (14):

--IE 6 SP1

--Security Update, September 7, 1999 (MS99-032, the so-called "eyedog"

patch.)

--891711 (Cursor & Icon Format)

--891781 (DHTML Editing Component ActiveX Control)

--816093 (MS Virtual Machine)

--Q329414 (MDAC 2.1)

--Share Level Password vuln.

--Q323255 (MS00-029Unchecked Buffer in HTML Help)

--MS99-049 IP Fragment Reassembly patch

--Security Update, March 7, 2002 (MS02-014 Unchecked buffer in Windows

Shell)

--Security Update, April 2, 2001 (MS01-017 Erroneous Verisign spoofing vuln)

--Security Update, March 17, 2000 (MS00-017)

--Security Update November 29, 1999 (MS99-038 Spoofed pointer and Fragmented

IGMP package)

At this point, I installed IE 6SP1, to see if any of the other Updates were

also taken care of.

Optional Updates (not including Language Packs) (9, not including Language

packs)

To the previous list, add .NET Framework. Not sure why this wasn't offered

last time, unless it has to do with the version of IE (see below.)

Critical Updates (22):

--905915 (Cumulative Update for IE 6SP1)

--837009 (Cumulative Update for OE 6SP1)

--833989 (MS04-028 IE 6SP1 Buffer Overrun in JPEG Processing -- GDI+)

--908519 (MS06-002 Embedded Web Fonts vuln)

--896358 (MS05-026 HTML Help vuln.)

--888113 (MS05-015 Hyperlink Object Library vuln.)

--891711 (MS05-002 Cursor & Icon Format vuln.)

--891781 (MS05-013 DHTML Editing Component ActiveX Control vuln.)

--823559 (MS03-023 Buffer Overrun in HTML converter vuln.)

--816093 (MS03-011 Microsoft VM vuln.)

--814078 (MS03-008 JScript 5.6 update)

--Q329414 (MSDAC 2.1 Update)

--Q329115 (Certificate Validation Flaw...)

--Windows Share Level Password Update

--Q323172 (Flaw in Digital Cert. Enrollment Component)

--Q323255 (Unchecked buffer in HTML Help)

--Security Update, May 19, 2000 (IP Fragment Reassembly issue)

--Security Update November 12, 1999 (File Access URL vuln.)

--Security Update, March 7, 2002 (MS02-014 Unchecked buffer in Windows

Shell)

--Security Update, March 17, 2000 (MS00-017 DOS Device in Path Name vuln.)

--Security Update 1, November 29, 1999 (MS99-038 Spoofed Route Pointer and

Fragmented IGMP Packet)

--811630 (Puts HTML Help into Restricted Zone)

It would appear that only the following two patches from pre-IE6

installation were made unnecessary by first upgrading to IE 6SP1:

--Security Update, September 7, 1999 (MS99-032, the so-called "eyedog"

patch.)

--Security Update, April 2, 2001 (MS01-017 Erroneous Verisign spoofing vuln)

OK, so I installed all of the above patches. Went back to Windows Update and

was offered the following Critical Updates:

--911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch)

--904706 (MS05-050 DirectX 9.0c patch)

--.NET Framework Service Pack 1)

--GDI+ detection tool

I installed all four, though the GDI+ Detection tool still frustrated me

until I figured out that whenever I've run into this during this experiment,

the GDI+ Detection tool ran before the .NET Framework SP1 was installed, and

that pre-SP1 .NET Framework is apparently one of the products that is

susceptible to the GDI+ vulnerability. I'll remember to install the SP1

*before* running the Detection tool next time. See if that fixes things.

Anyway, I went back to Windows Updates and no more Updates were offered.

Next on my list is to once again clean-install both OSes and then

immediately apply the entire Security Updates CD to each, then see what

remains to be gotten. Last of all, I'll discuss the various questions that

prompted this experiment in the first place. Once again, I must point out

that innumerable patches/updates were not part of this experiment since they

have earlier versions of DirectX, IE and WMP as their prerequisites,

versions which are no longer available. Yes, I could sort through my MSDN

and TechNet stuff and probably come up with a month-by-month chronology of

Updates, but I'm not going to. I'm just not that bored.

WINDOWS UPDATES PART 3

OK, in the first two parts of this thread, I went through the currently

available progression of Updates available at Windows Updates for Windows 98

Gold and for Windows 98 Second Edition. I then went back and clean-installed

both OSes (I'm using separate partitions), including all optional components

in both cases. I then immediately ran the Windows Security Updates CD on

each. (Noting that the default installation of IE 6 SP1 includes all

optional components except Language support and Additional Web Fonts. I

added in the Web Fonts option afterwards. I then went to Windows Updates and

noted which Updates are offered.)

-----------------Windows 98 Gold-------------

---Optional Updates---

--DirectX 9.0c End-User Runtime

--Registration Wizard Update

--Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1

--Windows Critical Update Notification 4.0

--Internet Explorer Navigation Sound Update

--Euro Conversion Tool

--Agent 2.0

---Critical Updates---

--905915 (IE 6.1)

--837009 (OE 6.1)

--833989 (IE 6.1)

--908519 (a recently discovered networking issue, "Embedded Web Font

Vulnerability", that affects all 9x and NT systems.)

--904706 (DX 9)

--896358 (HTML Help vulnerability)

--888113 (Hyperlink Object Library vuln.)

--891711 (Cursor & Icon Format vuln.)

--891781 (DHTML Editing Component ActiveX vuln.)

--816093 (Security Update for Microsoft Virtual Machine)

(Note that this is exactly the same list that I obtained during my first

experiment with Win98 Gold, indicating that none of the earlier updates I'd

installed before running the Security Updates CD are not covered by that

CD.)

After installing the above Optional and Critical Updates, the following were

made available. After installing them, no more Updates are offered.

-----Windows 98 Second Edition-----

---Optional Updates---

--DirectX 9.0c

--.NET Framework version 1.1

--Windows Critical Update Notification 4.0

--Internet Explorer Navigation Sound Update

--Euro Conversion Tool

--Agent 2.0

--Windows IDE Hard Drive Cache Package (Win98SE-specific)

--Mapped Drives Shutdown Update

A slight change here from the previous experiment. .NET Framework is offered

because IE6 was installed by the SecUp CD. However, WMP 9 is no longer

offered because it was installed by the Updates CD.

---Critical Updates (11) ---

--905915 (Cumulative Update for IE 6SP1)

--837009 (Cumulative Update for OE 6SP1)

--833989 (MS04-028 IE 6SP1 Buffer Overrun in JPEG Processing -- GDI+)

--911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch)

--908519 (MS06-002 Embedded Web Fonts vuln) (Note: There's a typo in Part 2

that lists this as 908510. Should be 908519)

--904706 (DX 9.0c Patch)

--896358 (MS05-026 HTML Help vuln.)

--888113 (MS05-015 Hyperlink Object Library vuln.)

--891711 (Cursor & Icon Format)

--891781 (DHTML Editing Component ActiveX Control)

--816093 (MS Virtual Machine)

After installing the above Optional and Critical Updates, the following were

made available. After installing them, no more Updates are offered.

--.NET 1.1 Update

--GDI+ Detection Tool (Note: Installing the .NET Framework patch did not

stop the GDI+ Detection Tool from suggesting that something on the machine

might be vulnerable. So I still don't know what it might be referring to

unless it's still the .NET Framework (even though patched) or Paint or

FrontPage Express.

Note that in neither OS are any additional Optional (Recommended) Updates

made available after installing the Security Updates CD. IOW, it has no

effect at all. Yes, the SecUp CD installs a DX9.0 version, but not version

9.0c, thus it isn't removed from the list by installing the CD. However, in

the case of Windows 98SE, WMP 9 is installed by the SecUp CD and is thus

removed from the Optional (Recommended) list. The latest version of WMP that

can be installed to Win98 Gold is WMP 7, and that is installed by the SecUp

CD, but strangely enough, it is never offered at Windows Updates, presumably

because no version of WMP was installed during the original installation so

no "update" is available.

OK, we'll come back and discuss whatever needs to be discussed tomorrow.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS MVP Shell/User

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org>

UPDATE TO UPDATES 3

Note: In the previous, Part 3 of this series, I inadvertently left out some

of the final data on Win98 Gold -- what happens after I install all of the

Updates that are offered after installing the Security Update CD. There were

no surprises. On that last visit to Windows Updates, the patch to .Net

Framework, the GDI+ Detection Tool were the last items offered.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS MVP Shell/User

CONTINUED WITH IE 5.01

OK, I ran into that Windows Updates error (0x80072F89) with a clean install

of SE, just like the last three times (but not the first two times). But, I

installed IE 5.01 (v 5.00.3105.0106) and that let me into WU. *Now* what I

show is nine Optional (aka Recommended) Updates because this version now

accepts .NET Framework 1.1. And *twenty* Critical Updates! I won't bother to

list the Optionals again, but here's the twenty:

X--IE 6 SP1

--Security Update February 14, 2002 (IE 5.01)

X--891711

X--891781

--823559 (MS03-023 Buffer Overrun in HTML Converter)

X--816093 (MS Virtual Machine)

--814078 (MS03-008, JScript 5.1)

X--Q329414 (MDAC 2.1)

--Q329115 (Certification Validation Flaw Could Enable Identity Spoofing)

X--Windows Share Level Password Update

--Q323172 (Flaw in Digital Certificate Enrollment)

X--Q323255 (Unchecked Buffer in HTML Help) Note: I misidentified this as

MS00-029 in the previous

X--Security Update, May 19, 2000 (MS00-029 IP Fragment Reassembly flaw)

--Q320920 (Updated WMP 6.4 Cumulative patch)

--Security Update, November 12, 1999 (File Access URL)

X--Security Update, March 7, 2002 (Unchecked Buffer in Windows Shell)

--Security Update, November 20, 2001 (WMP 6.4 .ASF Processor contains an

unchecked buffer)

X--Security Update, April 2, 2001 (Erroneous VeriSign-issued Certificates

Pose Spoofing Hazard)

X--Security Update, March 17, 2000 (DOS Device in Path Name)

X--Security Update, November 29, 1999 (Spoofed Route Pointer and Fragmented

IGMP Packet)

The "Eyedog" patch of Sept. 7, 1999 is no longer offered, as it was for a

clean install of SE. As noted above, I've made mistakes in previous posts. I

think I'm going to have to do this again, probably put the results on my

website. I got flustered by errors at Windows Updates and by other life

events.

I *think* the item that was missing from the previous list of Updates made

available right after a clean install of 98SE is the "November 12, 1999,

File Access URL" issue, or possibly Q323172.

______

Thanks again for the work Gary, as you can see, it was appreciated...

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

July 9, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

Well I see that information really wasn't what was wanted, so much for the

attempt AND the late post [forgot to upload earlier]

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

July 9, 2007

RE: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

"JWBDolphins" wrote:

> I installed Windows 98 SE yesterday and have been trying to Register it via

> the online process. I run the registration wizard, fill out all the info,

> regwiz dials microsoft, authenticates on the network, and connects to the MSN

> Site.

>

> At which point it sits for a few minutes and finally hangs up with the msg:

>

> "The Microsoft Registration web site is currently busy, try registering

> again."

>

> The problem is - I've received this message all yesterday afternoon, all

> last night, and now today too.

>

> My Question is - Is Msft currently allowing Win98SE registrations?, did

> that go away with the dropping of Win98 support?, or is the registration web

> site just down for now and will be back up at some point?

>

> Thanks!

>

Thanks to all for all the great information and clarifications! The

licensed copy of Win98 worked and I now have WinXP on that PC. Thanks again!!

July 9, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in

news:#4xCtYcwHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> And for the interested, here are key elements

That IS a lot of very useful and painstakingly assembled

information (I saved it, thank you) but it's also a pretty damn

good invitation to switch to Linux!

--

Any mental activity is easy if it need not be subjected to

reality.

July 9, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

--911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch)

You installed --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch).

Does the Media Guide tab in WMP still take you to the guide? In the past a

patch to WMP has broken Media Guide so I didn't install --911565 (MS06-005

Media Player 9 patch) last month when I did a clean install etc.

July 10, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

"John" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message

news:%23MXgFsjwHHA.3796@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch)

|

| You installed --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch).

|

| Does the Media Guide tab in WMP still take you to the guide? In the past

a

| patch to WMP has broken Media Guide so I didn't install --911565 (MS06-005

| Media Player 9 patch) last month when I did a clean install etc.

|

Ah, I'd hoped someone else would answer, I didn't install the player this

last install,,, but now I have [dang], okay the base install does... have to

go to updates and see what's offered and see what kills it..

BTW, did you ever monitor the player with your firewall? Had about 3 dozen

pop-ups from the prog...

Back later with the info I guess...

July 10, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uF%232lOtwHHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|

| "John" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message

| news:%23MXgFsjwHHA.3796@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| | --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch)

| |

| | You installed --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch).

| |

| | Does the Media Guide tab in WMP still take you to the guide? In the

past

| a

| | patch to WMP has broken Media Guide so I didn't install --911565

(MS06-005

| | Media Player 9 patch) last month when I did a clean install etc.

| |

|

| Ah, I'd hoped someone else would answer, I didn't install the player this

| last install,,, but now I have [dang], okay the base install does... have

to

| go to updates and see what's offered and see what kills it..

|

| BTW, did you ever monitor the player with your firewall? Had about 3

dozen

| pop-ups from the prog...

|

| Back later with the info I guess...

|

Okay then, nothing offered but the Flash update [have other flash

installed], so the media player update WAS really applied already, even

without *authorizing* Media Player use... so from a fresh base install with

the updates, Media Guide worked [except for the dang firewall pop-ups]

Here's the last installation history [after applying the Sec CD] which

includes the rest of the updates beyond Gary's Jan-Feb 2005 presentation [

Also VERIFIED per a prior discussion, the root certificates are NOT

updated.]:

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Update, December 22, 1999 Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Mapped Drives Shutdown Update

Read more... Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 816093: Security Update Microsoft Virtual

Machine (Microsoft VM) Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Microsoft GDI+ Detection Tool (KB873374)

Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891781)

Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)

Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB888113)

Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB896358)

Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for DirectX 9 (KB904706)

Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB908519)

Web site

Failed Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Flash Player (KB913433) Web

site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Microsoft Data Access

Components 2.8 (KB911562) Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows Media Player 9

for Windows 98 and Windows ME (KB917734) Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB917344)

Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB918547)

Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Internet Explorer 6

Service Pack 1 (KB833989) Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Cumulative Security Update for Outlook

Express 6 Service Pack 1 (KB837009) Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Cumulative Security Update for Internet

Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB916281) Web site

Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Internet Explorer 6

Service Pack 1 (KB918439) Web site

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

July 10, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

Thanks for all the info. I've been tempted to take this ME system back to

OOBE. Actually, I then need to apply the XP upgrade I have waiting but I

didn't want to lose 768kbps capture in MovieMaker. Now I know I can still

have it.

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:eO9XHitwHHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>

> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:uF%232lOtwHHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> |

> | "John" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message

> | news:%23MXgFsjwHHA.3796@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | | --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch)

> | |

> | | You installed --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch).

> | |

> | | Does the Media Guide tab in WMP still take you to the guide? In the

> past

> | a

> | | patch to WMP has broken Media Guide so I didn't install --911565

> (MS06-005

> | | Media Player 9 patch) last month when I did a clean install etc.

> | |

> |

> | Ah, I'd hoped someone else would answer, I didn't install the player

this

> | last install,,, but now I have [dang], okay the base install does...

have

> to

> | go to updates and see what's offered and see what kills it..

> |

> | BTW, did you ever monitor the player with your firewall? Had about 3

> dozen

> | pop-ups from the prog...

> |

> | Back later with the info I guess...

> |

>

> Okay then, nothing offered but the Flash update [have other flash

> installed], so the media player update WAS really applied already, even

> without *authorizing* Media Player use... so from a fresh base install

with

> the updates, Media Guide worked [except for the dang firewall pop-ups]

>

> Here's the last installation history [after applying the Sec CD] which

> includes the rest of the updates beyond Gary's Jan-Feb 2005 presentation [

> Also VERIFIED per a prior discussion, the root certificates are NOT

> updated.]:

>

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Update, December 22, 1999 Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Mapped Drives Shutdown Update

> Read more... Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Windows IDE Hard Drive Cache Package

> Read more... Web site

> Failed Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Flash Player (KB913433)

Web

> site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update, February 13, 2002 (MSXML

> 2.6)

> Read more... Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 816093: Security Update Microsoft Virtual

> Machine (Microsoft VM) Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Microsoft GDI+ Detection Tool (KB873374)

> Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891781)

> Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)

> Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB888113)

> Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB896358)

> Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for DirectX 9 (KB904706)

> Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB908519)

> Web site

> Failed Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Flash Player (KB913433)

Web

> site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Microsoft Data Access

> Components 2.8 (KB911562) Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows Media Player

9

> for Windows 98 and Windows ME (KB917734) Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB917344)

> Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98 (KB918547)

> Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Internet Explorer 6

> Service Pack 1 (KB833989) Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Cumulative Security Update for Outlook

> Express 6 Service Pack 1 (KB837009) Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Cumulative Security Update for Internet

> Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB916281) Web site

> Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Internet Explorer 6

> Service Pack 1 (KB918439) Web site

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

July 10, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

Forgot to mention, I don't have a software firewall to monitor. I've never

had popups from WMP and the Media Guide.

I'm behind a router with NAT, for what it's worth.

The clean install I did last month was 98SE on a rummage sale purchase.

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uF%232lOtwHHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>

> "John" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message

> news:%23MXgFsjwHHA.3796@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch)

> |

> | You installed --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch).

> |

> | Does the Media Guide tab in WMP still take you to the guide? In the

past

> a

> | patch to WMP has broken Media Guide so I didn't install --911565

(MS06-005

> | Media Player 9 patch) last month when I did a clean install etc.

> |

>

> Ah, I'd hoped someone else would answer, I didn't install the player this

> last install,,, but now I have [dang], okay the base install does... have

to

> go to updates and see what's offered and see what kills it..

>

> BTW, did you ever monitor the player with your firewall? Had about 3

dozen

> pop-ups from the prog...

>

> Back later with the info I guess...

>

July 10, 2007

Re: Unable to Register Win98SE online...

"John" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message

news:OvT4IYwwHHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| Thanks for all the info. I've been tempted to take this ME system back to

| OOBE. Actually, I then need to apply the XP upgrade I have waiting but I

| didn't want to lose 768kbps capture in MovieMaker. Now I know I can still

| have it.

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:eO9XHitwHHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| >

| > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > news:uF%232lOtwHHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > |

| > | "John" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message

| > | news:%23MXgFsjwHHA.3796@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | | --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch)

| > | |

| > | | You installed --911565 (MS06-005 Media Player 9 patch).

| > | |

| > | | Does the Media Guide tab in WMP still take you to the guide? In the

| > past

| > | a

| > | | patch to WMP has broken Media Guide so I didn't install --911565

| > (MS06-005

| > | | Media Player 9 patch) last month when I did a clean install etc.

| > | |

| > |

| > | Ah, I'd hoped someone else would answer, I didn't install the player

| this

| > | last install,,, but now I have [dang], okay the base install does...

| have

| > to

| > | go to updates and see what's offered and see what kills it..

| > |

| > | BTW, did you ever monitor the player with your firewall? Had about 3

| > dozen

| > | pop-ups from the prog...

| > |

| > | Back later with the info I guess...

| > |

| >

| > Okay then, nothing offered but the Flash update [have other flash

| > installed], so the media player update WAS really applied already, even

| > without *authorizing* Media Player use... so from a fresh base install

| with

| > the updates, Media Guide worked [except for the dang firewall pop-ups]

| >

| > Here's the last installation history [after applying the Sec CD] which

| > includes the rest of the updates beyond Gary's Jan-Feb 2005 presentation

[

| > Also VERIFIED per a prior discussion, the root certificates are NOT

| > updated.]:

| >

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Update, December 22, 1999 Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Mapped Drives Shutdown Update

| > Read more... Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Windows IDE Hard Drive Cache Package

| > Read more... Web site

| > Failed Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Flash Player (KB913433)

| Web

| > site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update, February 13, 2002

(MSXML

| > 2.6)

| > Read more... Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 816093: Security Update Microsoft

Virtual

| > Machine (Microsoft VM) Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Microsoft GDI+ Detection Tool

(KB873374)

| > Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98

(KB891781)

| > Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98

(KB891711)

| > Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98

(KB888113)

| > Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98

(KB896358)

| > Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for DirectX 9

(KB904706)

| > Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98

(KB908519)

| > Web site

| > Failed Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Flash Player (KB913433)

| Web

| > site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Microsoft Data

Access

| > Components 2.8 (KB911562) Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows Media

Player

| 9

| > for Windows 98 and Windows ME (KB917734) Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98

(KB917344)

| > Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Windows 98

(KB918547)

| > Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Internet Explorer 6

| > Service Pack 1 (KB833989) Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Cumulative Security Update for Outlook

| > Express 6 Service Pack 1 (KB837009) Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Cumulative Security Update for Internet

| > Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB916281) Web site

| > Successful Friday, June 15, 2007 Security Update for Internet Explorer 6

| > Service Pack 1 (KB918439) Web site

| >

| > --

| > MEB

Just remember this: Each system may perform differently depending upon

other software and configurations.

AND make sure you install a firewall on that SE system [actually any

OS/version]. I use Kerio PFW [last free version] and monitor ALL activity

[which also catches attempts to circumvent/shut-off the firewall], though

that is usually more information than the common user needs [in addition to

several other monitoring and sniffing progs].

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/spyware.htm

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/certs_install.htm

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/firewalls.htm

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/antivirus.htm

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MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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