!0 Minutes Internet Stops

[Guest Terry Smythe]

A friend, still running WinME, has suddenly experienced a stoppage of his

internet connection after ~10 minutes. The computer does not freeze up,

still able to run applications. In order to regain internet connection,

must reboot.

 

Suspiciously like an overheating CPU, we swapped over his components into

another functionally similar computer. Surprise! Surprise! Same

problem. Then we swapped his USB-LAN adapter for a PCI LAN card. Same

problem.

 

He's run all his housekeeping utilities, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, Registray

mechanic, et al....., but problem persists.

 

Suggestions?

 

Regards,

 

Terry Smythe

Winnipeg, Canada

smythe@shaw.ca

[Guest webster72n]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

You may be in need of "A-Squared Anti-Dialer".

It's Freeware.

 

 

"Terry Smythe" <smythe@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:WKfki.99664$xq1.38375@pd7urf1no...

> A friend, still running WinME, has suddenly experienced a stoppage of his

> internet connection after ~10 minutes. The computer does not freeze

up,

> still able to run applications. In order to regain internet connection,

> must reboot.

>

> Suspiciously like an overheating CPU, we swapped over his components into

> another functionally similar computer. Surprise! Surprise! Same

> problem. Then we swapped his USB-LAN adapter for a PCI LAN card.

Same

> problem.

>

> He's run all his housekeeping utilities, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, Registray

> mechanic, et al....., but problem persists.

>

> Suggestions?

>

> Regards,

>

> Terry Smythe

> Winnipeg, Canada

> smythe@shaw.ca

>

>

[Guest Heather]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

First of all, ignore Harry......then wait for the MVP's in England to

surface. Sounds like you are probably on the right track. I seriously

doubt it is malware.

 

Heather (from the best part of Canada.....cough, lol)

 

"Terry Smythe" <smythe@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:WKfki.99664$xq1.38375@pd7urf1no...

>A friend, still running WinME, has suddenly experienced a stoppage of

>his internet connection after ~10 minutes. The computer does not

>freeze up, still able to run applications. In order to regain

>internet connection, must reboot.

>

> Suspiciously like an overheating CPU, we swapped over his components

> into another functionally similar computer. Surprise! Surprise!

> Same problem. Then we swapped his USB-LAN adapter for a PCI LAN

> card. Same problem.

>

> He's run all his housekeeping utilities, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, Registray

> mechanic, et al....., but problem persists.

>

> Suggestions?

>

> Regards,

>

> Terry Smythe

> Winnipeg, Canada

> smythe@shaw.ca

>

>

[Guest webster72n]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

We are awfully smart again, aren't we?

You may ignore me personally, but to tell everyone else to do the same, is

overstepping your boundary. <H>.

 

 

"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

news:u7rEf$cwHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> First of all, ignore Harry......then wait for the MVP's in England to

> surface. Sounds like you are probably on the right track. I seriously

> doubt it is malware.

>

> Heather (from the best part of Canada.....cough, lol)

>

> "Terry Smythe" <smythe@shaw.ca> wrote in message

> news:WKfki.99664$xq1.38375@pd7urf1no...

> >A friend, still running WinME, has suddenly experienced a stoppage of

> >his internet connection after ~10 minutes. The computer does not

> >freeze up, still able to run applications. In order to regain

> >internet connection, must reboot.

> >

> > Suspiciously like an overheating CPU, we swapped over his components

> > into another functionally similar computer. Surprise! Surprise!

> > Same problem. Then we swapped his USB-LAN adapter for a PCI LAN

> > card. Same problem.

> >

> > He's run all his housekeeping utilities, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, Registray

> > mechanic, et al....., but problem persists.

> >

> > Suggestions?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Terry Smythe

> > Winnipeg, Canada

> > smythe@shaw.ca

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest Heather]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

Not "we"......but I am. And you answer made absolutely no earthly

sense!!

 

And drop the religious kick as well. This is not alt.religion.

 

H.

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> We are awfully smart again, aren't we?

> You may ignore me personally, but to tell everyone else to do the

> same, is

> overstepping your boundary. <H>.

>

>

> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:u7rEf$cwHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> First of all, ignore Harry......then wait for the MVP's in England to

>> surface. Sounds like you are probably on the right track. I

>> seriously

>> doubt it is malware.

>>

>> Heather (from the best part of Canada.....cough, lol)

>>

>> "Terry Smythe" <smythe@shaw.ca> wrote in message

>> news:WKfki.99664$xq1.38375@pd7urf1no...

>> >A friend, still running WinME, has suddenly experienced a stoppage

>> >of

>> >his internet connection after ~10 minutes. The computer does not

>> >freeze up, still able to run applications. In order to regain

>> >internet connection, must reboot.

>> >

>> > Suspiciously like an overheating CPU, we swapped over his

>> > components

>> > into another functionally similar computer. Surprise!

>> > Surprise!

>> > Same problem. Then we swapped his USB-LAN adapter for a PCI LAN

>> > card. Same problem.

>> >

>> > He's run all his housekeeping utilities, Ad-Aware, SpyBot,

>> > Registray

>> > mechanic, et al....., but problem persists.

>> >

>> > Suggestions?

>> >

>> > Regards,

>> >

>> > Terry Smythe

>> > Winnipeg, Canada

>> > smythe@shaw.ca

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest oops!!]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

Terry,

 

How does your friend connect to the internet, a modem?

 

Is it an USB modem? Do you know if the modem is ON or OFF when the internet

access is interrupted?

 

Zee

 

 

 

"Terry Smythe" <smythe@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:WKfki.99664$xq1.38375@pd7urf1no...

>A friend, still running WinME, has suddenly experienced a stoppage of his

>internet connection after ~10 minutes. The computer does not freeze up,

>still able to run applications. In order to regain internet connection,

>must reboot.

>

> Suspiciously like an overheating CPU, we swapped over his components into

> another functionally similar computer. Surprise! Surprise! Same

> problem. Then we swapped his USB-LAN adapter for a PCI LAN card.

> Same problem.

>

> He's run all his housekeeping utilities, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, Registray

> mechanic, et al....., but problem persists.

>

> Suggestions?

>

> Regards,

>

> Terry Smythe

> Winnipeg, Canada

> smythe@shaw.ca

>

>

[Guest Mart]

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Terry wrote :-

> Suspiciously like an overheating CPU ...

> ..... The computer does not freeze up,

 

Which would certainly appear to negate the suspicion of an overheating CPU.

 

However, as both USB and PCI Lan adapters suffer the same fate - again, that

would appear to eliminate the PC.

> we swapped over his components into another functionally similar

> computer.

 

You don't say what components - but you do seem to imply (to me) that

problem occurs on a second PC, again eliminating the 'original' PC.

 

So .. What about the Lan router/modem or the ISP itself? Very odd though,

that a 're-boot' is necessary, - Has he tried resetting the router/modem

when this occurs, rather than a re-boot of the PC? What happens when the

Lan plug is pulled? - any warnings? Do the status lights on the router/modem

tell you anything?

 

Is it possible to substitute a different router/modem or even try it (the

whole kit - including router/modem) on another ISP/line?

 

Mart

 

 

 

"Terry Smythe" <smythe@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:WKfki.99664$xq1.38375@pd7urf1no...

>A friend, still running WinME, has suddenly experienced a stoppage of his

>internet connection after ~10 minutes. The computer does not freeze up,

>still able to run applications. In order to regain internet connection,

>must reboot.

>

> Suspiciously like an overheating CPU, we swapped over his components into

> another functionally similar computer. Surprise! Surprise! Same

> problem. Then we swapped his USB-LAN adapter for a PCI LAN card.

> Same problem.

>

> He's run all his housekeeping utilities, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, Registray

> mechanic, et al....., but problem persists.

>

> Suggestions?

>

> Regards,

>

> Terry Smythe

> Winnipeg, Canada

> smythe@shaw.ca

>

>

[Guest Heirloom]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

Have you had your ISP monitor your connection? Sounds to me more like

trouble at their end. If a dial-up connection, you may very well have

trouble on your phone line. Have them both checked.

Heirloom, old and worked for me

 

"Terry Smythe" <smythe@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:WKfki.99664$xq1.38375@pd7urf1no...

>A friend, still running WinME, has suddenly experienced a stoppage of his

>internet connection after ~10 minutes. The computer does not freeze up,

>still able to run applications. In order to regain internet connection,

>must reboot.

>

> Suspiciously like an overheating CPU, we swapped over his components into

> another functionally similar computer. Surprise! Surprise! Same

> problem. Then we swapped his USB-LAN adapter for a PCI LAN card.

> Same problem.

>

> He's run all his housekeeping utilities, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, Registray

> mechanic, et al....., but problem persists.

>

> Suggestions?

>

> Regards,

>

> Terry Smythe

> Winnipeg, Canada

> smythe@shaw.ca

>

>

[Guest N. Miller]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:23:08 -0400, Heather wrote:

> Heather (from the best part of Canada.....cough, lol)

 

The best part of Canada is in the West: British Columbia, east to Lake

Louise. No farther east, though. Manitoba and Saskatchewan are just too

flat, Quebec is too Continental (as in European), and Ontario is too pink.

The Maritimes are okay, though.

 

--

Norman

~Shine, bright morning light,

~now in the air the spring is coming.

~Sweet, blowing wind,

~singing down the hills and valleys.

[Guest N. Miller]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:58:30 GMT, Terry Smythe wrote:

> A friend, still running WinME, has suddenly experienced a stoppage of his

> internet connection after ~10 minutes. The computer does not freeze up,

> still able to run applications. In order to regain internet connection,

> must reboot.

>

> Suspiciously like an overheating CPU, we swapped over his components into

> another functionally similar computer. Surprise! Surprise! Same

> problem. Then we swapped his USB-LAN adapter for a PCI LAN card. Same

> problem.

>

> He's run all his housekeeping utilities, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, Registray

> mechanic, et al....., but problem persists.

>

> Suggestions?

 

10 minutes. Sounds a bit like an IP address lease renewal issue. I've seen

similar on cascaded NAT, where there is a NAPT router behind a DSL modem in

NAT mode, sharing the public IP address with the router. If the modem

changes IP address, it sometimes fails to pass the change to the router,

necessitating a router reboot. If there is a computer directly connected

with this configuration, it would be the computer needing a reboot.

 

--

Norman

~Shine, bright morning light,

~now in the air the spring is coming.

~Sweet, blowing wind,

~singing down the hills and valleys.

[Guest Heather]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

 

"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message

news:1przrzxt18x0i$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...

> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:23:08 -0400, Heather wrote:

>

>> Heather (from the best part of Canada.....cough, lol)

>

> The best part of Canada is in the West: British Columbia, east to Lake

> Louise. No farther east, though. Manitoba and Saskatchewan are just

> too

> flat, Quebec is too Continental (as in European), and Ontario is too

> pink.

> The Maritimes are okay, though.

>

Gee Norman......you are going to half hate yourself. LOL.

 

1. Daughter Elayne lives in downtown Vancouver, overlooking Stanley

Park and English Bay.

 

2. My father and his forebears are from Prince Edward Island. I have

the red hair and freckles to prove it.

 

3. We LOVE Quebec....for precisely the reason you don't. It is so

European. But we go there every year or so for a holiday.

 

4. Ontario has become too ethnic.....all those middle Europeans, lol.

And the other provinces are not really of much interest to me except

that part of Calgary is named after my grand uncle. He seemed to like

it, I understand.

 

Ball is now in your court....chuckle.

[Guest N. Miller]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:15:39 -0400, Heather wrote:

> "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message

> news:1przrzxt18x0i$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...

>> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:23:08 -0400, Heather wrote:

>>> Heather (from the best part of Canada.....cough, lol)

>> The best part of Canada is in the West: British Columbia, east to Lake

>> Louise. No farther east, though. Manitoba and Saskatchewan are just

>> too

>> flat, Quebec is too Continental (as in European), and Ontario is too

>> pink.

>> The Maritimes are okay, though.

> Gee Norman......you are going to half hate yourself. LOL.

 

I don't know why you would say that.

> 1. Daughter Elayne lives in downtown Vancouver, overlooking Stanley

> Park and English Bay.

 

I don't think it is much different from Seattle, in most respects.

> 2. My father and his forebears are from Prince Edward Island. I have

> the red hair and freckles to prove it.

 

If it wasn't for the Royal Navy, Maine would probably also be amongst the

Maritime Province. They are called "Down East" because they are down, and

east of the rest of Canada. Stupid Brits kept pressing the Main fisher crews

into service in the Royal Navy, which drove the "Down Easters" into our

campe.

> 3. We LOVE Quebec....for precisely the reason you don't. It is so

> European. But we go there every year or so for a holiday.

 

Two of the worlds bloodiest wars were starte by those Europeans. And they

consider themselves "civilized".

> 4. Ontario has become too ethnic.....all those middle Europeans, lol.

> And the other provinces are not really of much interest to me except

> that part of Calgary is named after my grand uncle. He seemed to like

> it, I understand.

 

The best part of Calgary was the stampede. But we *are* all cowboys down

here, after all. Well almost...

> Ball is now in your court....chuckle.

 

My family is from Scotland, and Germany, by way of Canada. So, if the

liberal wusses disarm us, I'd head off to...

 

Japan.

 

--

Norman

~Shine, bright morning light,

~now in the air the spring is coming.

~Sweet, blowing wind,

~singing down the hills and valleys.

[Guest Shane]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

N. Miller wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:15:39 -0400, Heather wrote:

>

>> "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message

>> news:1przrzxt18x0i$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...

>

>>> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:23:08 -0400, Heather wrote:

>

>>>> Heather (from the best part of Canada.....cough, lol)

>

>>> The best part of Canada is in the West: British Columbia, east to

>>> Lake Louise. No farther east, though. Manitoba and Saskatchewan are

>>> just too

>>> flat, Quebec is too Continental (as in European), and Ontario is too

>>> pink.

>>> The Maritimes are okay, though.

>

>> Gee Norman......you are going to half hate yourself. LOL.

>

> I don't know why you would say that.

>

>> 1. Daughter Elayne lives in downtown Vancouver, overlooking Stanley

>> Park and English Bay.

>

> I don't think it is much different from Seattle, in most respects.

>

>> 2. My father and his forebears are from Prince Edward Island. I

>> have the red hair and freckles to prove it.

>

> If it wasn't for the Royal Navy, Maine would probably also be amongst

> the Maritime Province. They are called "Down East" because they are

> down, and east of the rest of Canada. Stupid Brits kept pressing the

> Main fisher crews into service in the Royal Navy, which drove the

> "Down Easters" into our campe.

>

>> 3. We LOVE Quebec....for precisely the reason you don't. It is so

>> European. But we go there every year or so for a holiday.

>

> Two of the worlds bloodiest wars were starte by those Europeans. And

> they consider themselves "civilized".

>

 

It's just 'people', Norm. The real problem is people who don't see the

reality, that it is so short a time since torture and murder were so much a

part of daily existence that it was 'the way of the world'. Medieval times

were only 'yesterday', the time of The Inquisition - to mention merely the

most notorious phase - was only yesterday. Just as WWII ended a mere 15

years before I was born, a time I grew up thinking of as 'a lifetime ago',

but as you get older and realise for instance, The Falklands, was longer ago

now, than WWII was when *I* entered the world!

 

Children here - of my generation anyway - grew up with tank traps as part of

the landscape. You know something, Norm? Yes, Americans grow up differently

to the British simply by virtue of the size of landmass about them. It has a

psychological effect that incorporates into their development. There are

still pillboxes, here, that never got used because Hitler didn't invade

(they tend to smell like latrines). There is a big difference in growing up

in the shadow of war *where you play your games of 'cowboys and indians'*

(lol!) as opposed to where the only threats you're aware of are handed down

to you by lying, stinking politicians and other bigots.

 

It was all 'only yesterday' - and the driving purpose of the EEC was to make

sure France and Germany would not go to war against each other again.

 

We English spent most of our existence at war with the French, but all my

life we've been allies and the idea of war between us is absurd. I go to

France, I enjoy it, I get on well with the French. I am very far from the

only one.

 

It isn't 'Europeans', Norm, it's 'People'. Most of the Europeans have learnt

the lesson. The problem is the people who don't - the bigots, the bounders

in their refuge. 'Patriotism' is the problem. It is an expression of that

within us that attempts to justify all of our greed and small-mindedness,

our jealousy and covetousness, to instead of making an effort to become

better people, to deceive ourselves that everything we do is noble so we can

just carry on as we've always done, pointing the finger at those who are

different (and *what* a bonanza, eh?, if they happen to *look* different

too!). You seem to be championing the cause of not making any effort and

just continue talking the simple-minded out of their money, which *is* the

sole alternative. The way you talk, Norm, at every opportunity, you come

across - except to the ones just like you - as the type who really wouldn't

have minded if slavery had never been abolished, if women had never got the

vote, if the poor were still put in workhouses. After all, that is the

world - that you imply we're still in over here - that invading other

nations belongs in.

 

Yes, most of us *are* civilised. Blair isn't, which is how come he's popular

with that imbecile and the liars and thieves who pull those strings you

can't see. It's you lot who are still children and haven't learnt. It does

show how misleading 'Common Sense' can be, though! Intelligent people would

have thought you'd be capable of recognising mass murder in the name of

naked greed cheered on by the supposedly Christian (who do the work of the

devil, ROFL!). Unless you're a liar who doesn't care as long as there's

money in it.

 

Shane

[Guest N. Miller]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:05:46 +0100, Shane wrote:

> N. Miller wrote:

>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:15:39 -0400, Heather wrote:

>>> "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message

>>> news:1przrzxt18x0i$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...

>>>> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:23:08 -0400, Heather wrote:

>>>>> Heather (from the best part of Canada.....cough, lol)

>>>> The best part of Canada is in the West: British Columbia, east to

>>>> Lake Louise. No farther east, though. Manitoba and Saskatchewan are

>>>> just too

>>>> flat, Quebec is too Continental (as in European), and Ontario is too

>>>> pink.

>>>> The Maritimes are okay, though.

>>> Gee Norman......you are going to half hate yourself. LOL.

>> I don't know why you would say that.

>>> 1. Daughter Elayne lives in downtown Vancouver, overlooking Stanley

>>> Park and English Bay.

>> I don't think it is much different from Seattle, in most respects.

>>> 2. My father and his forebears are from Prince Edward Island. I

>>> have the red hair and freckles to prove it.

>> If it wasn't for the Royal Navy, Maine would probably also be amongst

>> the Maritime Province. They are called "Down East" because they are

>> down, and east of the rest of Canada. Stupid Brits kept pressing the

>> Main fisher crews into service in the Royal Navy, which drove the

>> "Down Easters" into our campe.

>>> 3. We LOVE Quebec....for precisely the reason you don't. It is so

>>> European. But we go there every year or so for a holiday.

>> Two of the worlds bloodiest wars were starte by those Europeans. And

>> they consider themselves "civilized".

> It's just 'people', Norm...

 

I don't know where to begin. You say you've "learnt your lesson"; yet your

words convey otherwise. You denigrate bigots, yet such denigration is a form

of bigotry. You make unwarranted assumptions about what I am like, and in

your prejudice you get it wrong. It seems to me you have learned nothing at

all.

 

I gather that you really have no sense of your history. You seem to lump all

the evil in with the good, and treat your past as something to be ashamed

of. I see it here, as well; as if I should fall on my sword over the ill

treatment of people of African decent, just because my ancestor committed

evil acts. Patriotism, like anything else, is neutral, and how people use it

determine whether good, or ill will come of it. You will accomplish nothing

by lying down and letting the Saracens slaughter you: Except to become

extinct.

 

I am not responsible for what has happened before, I am only responsible for

what will happen next. I can do nothing to mitigate what happened to Dred

Scott, all that I can do is try to ensure that the same thing won't happen

to his great-grandchildren.

 

However, sitting so high on your fine, pompous horse, and talking down to me

as you have, you exemplify my complaint about the attitude of the Europeans.

 

--

Norman

どこにもないその場所へ

今始まる歌声が

届いている、導いてる

高らかにto heaven

[Guest Mike M]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

> down to me as you have, you exemplify my complaint about the attitude

> of the Europeans.

 

As does your post exemplify why so many Europeans detest Americans,

especially those who consider themselves righteous and above all criticism

such as yourself whilst being at the same time displaying true ignorance

of many of the relevant facts.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

N. Miller <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote:

> I don't know where to begin. You say you've "learnt your lesson"; yet

> your words convey otherwise. You denigrate bigots, yet such

> denigration is a form of bigotry. You make unwarranted assumptions

> about what I am like, and in your prejudice you get it wrong. It

> seems to me you have learned nothing at all.

>

> I gather that you really have no sense of your history. You seem to

> lump all the evil in with the good, and treat your past as something

> to be ashamed of. I see it here, as well; as if I should fall on my

> sword over the ill treatment of people of African decent, just

> because my ancestor committed evil acts. Patriotism, like anything

> else, is neutral, and how people use it determine whether good, or

> ill will come of it. You will accomplish nothing by lying down and

> letting the Saracens slaughter you: Except to become extinct.

>

> I am not responsible for what has happened before, I am only

> responsible for what will happen next. I can do nothing to mitigate

> what happened to Dred Scott, all that I can do is try to ensure that

> the same thing won't happen to his great-grandchildren.

>

> However, sitting so high on your fine, pompous horse, and talking

> down to me as you have, you exemplify my complaint about the attitude

> of the Europeans.

[Guest N. Miller]

Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops

 

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:00:15 +0100, Mike M wrote:

>> down to me as you have, you exemplify my complaint about the attitude

>> of the Europeans.

> As does your post exemplify why so many Europeans detest Americans,

> especially those who consider themselves righteous and above all criticism

> such as yourself whilst being at the same time displaying true ignorance

> of many of the relevant facts.

 

So you claim. But you're just as ignorant and prejudiced as any other folk

on the face of this Earth.

 

--

Norman

~Where is the place I'm going to?

~Now a voice is beginning to sing

~It's reaching me, leading me...

~Raising me to heaven