Guest Shane Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) I thought you were about to introduce Parmaynu there George! Shane George Gee wrote: > Heather > > Better tread carefully here, after all Harry is a known expert > with Java, he does have 3386 versions of it in Add/Remove programs. > > George Gee > > > "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:%23SdUlOlxHHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:eQGVnLkxHHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message >>> news:OZAHfBkxHHA.404@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> webster72n wrote: >>>>> For AMD based windows systems they recommend to use 1.5.0_11, >>>>> TomV. >>>> >>>> Who are "they"? >>> >>> "They" are: http://www.java.com. >>> Just look under :"instructions" for download and installation. >>> Thought you might summarize that, Alias. >> >> Damned if I can find these people.......the "theys" he refers to. I >> checked under Download and Installation and no Theys there. >> >> You into the cooking sherry again, Harry??
Guest webster72n Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) "George Gee" <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote in message news:%23Ld4EhmxHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Harry > > I would've thought "Thank you Tom for pointing out my error" what error??? Tom is the one to give me the wrong link. And I still think, Tom is sneaking some "scherry" in his "Java". > would've been more appropriate. > > George Gee > > > "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:e5qRvPmxHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > 're you on the binge too, Tom? > > As long as you're having fun... > > > > "TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:ePZOUGmxHHA.404@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> It may help to explain the reason there are 3386 versions of it in > >> Add/Remove programs. ;) > >> > >> George Gee wrote: > >> > You mean Harry got it wrong? > >> > Well, well, well, fancy that, tisk, tisk, tisk. > >> > > >> > Can't find that blasted corkscrew! Only had it > >> > half an hour ago ........ > >> > > >> > George Gee > >> > > >> > > > > > > >
Guest TomV Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Harry, You're just not getting it. You're using the Java version for 64 bit systems. I told you where to check...enough said. If what you're using is working for you, great. Ignorance is bliss, eh? Tom webster72n wrote: > > what error??? > Tom is the one to give me the wrong link. > And I still think, Tom is sneaking some "scherry" in his "Java". >
Guest Alias Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) webster72n wrote: > "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message > news:OZAHfBkxHHA.404@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> webster72n wrote: >>> For AMD based windows systems they recommend to use 1.5.0_11, TomV. >> Who are "they"? > > "They" are: http://www.java.com. > Just look under :"instructions" for download and installation. > Thought you might summarize that, Alias. What do you mean by "AMD"? Alias > >>> I already have that version installed and will keep it, accordingly. >>> >>> Harry. >> I have an AMD processor (XP 2200, XP 3000+ and AMD2 4600) on three >> computers and all three have the latest Java RE 6, Update 2 with no >> problems whatsoever. Two are running XP Pro in English and the dual core >> is running XP Home in Spanish. >> >> Alias >>> >>> "TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message >>> news:OKGjbYjxHHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi, Heather, >>>> >>>> If you're going to stay with JRE 1.5.0, it's probably best to use >>>> 1.5.0_12. IIRC there were a number of security vulnerabilites fixed in >>>> this release. >>>> >>>> http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp >>>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/ReleaseNotes.html >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Tom (not David Lipman ;)) >>>> >>>> >>>> Heather wrote: >>>>> And I will stick with version 5.....11. Does the job. Don't like the >>>>> version 6 ones. (looking over my shoulder to see if Lipman catches my >>>>> statements, lol). >>>>> >>>>> Heather >>>>> >>>>> "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:uqHMT0gxHHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>> I can give that a miss, I don't have Sun Java on here <g> >>>>>> Joan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alias wrote: >>>>>>> Get it at http://www.java.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alias >>> > >
Guest Shane Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) webster72n wrote: > "George Gee" <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote in message > news:%23Ld4EhmxHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Harry >> >> I would've thought "Thank you Tom for pointing out my error" > > what error??? > Tom is the one to give me the wrong link. He didn't really need to give you a link, Harry. Your own demonstrates his point. Look at the *x64.exe* at the end of it. That means for 64-bit operating systems. It seems extremely unlikely that your AMD processor is a 64-bit model, given past discussions here re upgrading. It is doubly certain (that the file is not the one you're using) because you are using Windows Millennium Edition. I have a 64-bit AMD processor - but the XP version it's running is a 32-bit one and even I couldn't install the x64 JSE. It requires a 64-bit operating system and XP and later come in 64-bit versions, but not Millennium, nor - of course - will it, not ever. So, yes, basically, with the x64 in the filename, it is a different file to what you have. I would further presume - given Tom's point of questioning their recommending a version with a security flaw - assuming that version does indeed have such - that the x64 version does not have it. Meanwhile, either the old x86 (32-bit Intel compatible) JSE build has the flaw and you're still using it, or it doesn't have the flaw and so what? I, however, am with Joan on Java. Except that my coffee machine doesn't work anymore. Shane
Guest Shane Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Tom, I don't think Harry is using it - not least from my own experience that x64 versions of anything (almost?) never install on 32-bit systems. I rather think he hasn't noticed the x64 in the filename or not attached any significance to it. I may be wrong of course - and right or wrong I think I must finally be a fully qualified pedant for even caring! Shane TomV wrote: > Harry, > > You're just not getting it. You're using the Java version for 64 bit > systems. I told you where to check...enough said. If what you're > using is working for you, great. Ignorance is bliss, eh? > > Tom > > webster72n wrote: >> >> what error??? >> Tom is the one to give me the wrong link. >> And I still think, Tom is sneaking some "scherry" in his "Java".
Guest Heather Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Sigh.....is this what I have to look forward to when I hit "old age"?? Memory Loss......lack of comprehension.......alzheimers?? Think I will stay "young". H. "TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message news:%23i3WSPnxHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Harry, > > You're just not getting it. You're using the Java version for 64 bit > systems. I told you where to check...enough said. If what you're > using is working for you, great. Ignorance is bliss, eh? > > Tom > > webster72n wrote: >> >> what error??? >> Tom is the one to give me the wrong link. >> And I still think, Tom is sneaking some "scherry" in his "Java". >>
Guest TomV Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Hi, Heather, Have you ever heard the term "stunod"? It's sort of an Americanized version of the Italian "testa dura", which literally translated means "hard head". It's the only description that comes to mind for the discussion with Harry. Except I (and others) may have a sense of banging one's head against the wall. ;) Stay young...it's the only way to go. :) Tom Heather wrote: > Sigh.....is this what I have to look forward to when I hit "old age"?? > Memory Loss......lack of comprehension.......alzheimers?? Think I will > stay "young". > > H. > "TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message > news:%23i3WSPnxHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Harry, >> >> You're just not getting it. You're using the Java version for 64 bit >> systems. I told you where to check...enough said. If what you're >> using is working for you, great. Ignorance is bliss, eh? >> >> Tom >> >> webster72n wrote: >>> what error??? >>> Tom is the one to give me the wrong link. >>> And I still think, Tom is sneaking some "scherry" in his "Java". >>> > >
Guest TomV Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Hey, Shane, You're probably right about not being able to install the 64 bit version on a 32 bit system. I can't profess to have any firsthand experience with it. However, the reverse is possible. As for feeling somewhat pedantic, I can relate to that, except that my head hurts. ;) Tom Shane wrote: > Tom, I don't think Harry is using it - not least from my own experience that > x64 versions of anything (almost?) never install on 32-bit systems. I rather > think he hasn't noticed the x64 in the filename or not attached any > significance to it. I may be wrong of course - and right or wrong I think I > must finally be a fully qualified pedant for even caring! > > > Shane >
Guest Heather Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Well...."bonehead" does come to mind. And I can certainly empathize with banging one's head against the wall. "Hellooooo, is there anyone in there??" A question I often want to ask Harry. I am endeavouring to "stay young"......but Mother Nature is fighting me on that one, grin. Cheers......Heather "TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message news:uPmNgzpxHHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Hi, Heather, > > Have you ever heard the term "stunod"? It's sort of an Americanized > version of the Italian "testa dura", which literally translated means > "hard head". It's the only description that comes to mind for the > discussion with Harry. Except I (and others) may have a sense of > banging one's head against the wall. ;) > > Stay young...it's the only way to go. :) > > Tom > > > Heather wrote: >> Sigh.....is this what I have to look forward to when I hit "old >> age"?? Memory Loss......lack of comprehension.......alzheimers?? >> Think I will stay "young". >> >> H. >> "TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message >> news:%23i3WSPnxHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Harry, >>> >>> You're just not getting it. You're using the Java version for 64 >>> bit systems. I told you where to check...enough said. If what >>> you're using is working for you, great. Ignorance is bliss, eh? >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> webster72n wrote: >>>> what error??? >>>> Tom is the one to give me the wrong link. >>>> And I still think, Tom is sneaking some "scherry" in his "Java". >>>> >>
Guest George Gee Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Hi Shane I didn't know you were into Robin Cooper! Goes some way to explaining your sense of humour. George Gee "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e$LzhtmxHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I thought you were about to introduce Parmaynu there George! > > > Shane > > > George Gee wrote: >> Heather >> >> Better tread carefully here, after all Harry is a known expert >> with Java, he does have 3386 versions of it in Add/Remove programs. >> >> George Gee > >
Guest Joan Archer Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) <lol> What have you done to it then, we can't have you going without your caffeine <g> Joan Shane wrote: > > I, however, am with Joan on Java. Except that my coffee machine > doesn't work anymore. > > Shane
Guest webster72n Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Thank you for your explicit descriptions, Shane. They show you care and that's being appreciated. Of course I noticed ignoring the "64" along the way, but when I installed the new version referred to by Alias, through the built-in update feature, I received an error message and that threw me off. Everything fell into place when I uninstalled the older version and replaced it with the latest. Now I'm up-to-date, thanks to Tom, also. As you might have noticed already, "they" don't have to worry about "getting old", it's "automatic", sooner or later. If you play your cards right, it may even be fun. Just for informational purposes, last Wednesday I had my right hand carpal tunnel surgery done (the left hand was done about 6 weeks ago) and I am performing most of the tasks here left-handed. Harry. "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uM3MQTnxHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > webster72n wrote: > > "George Gee" <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote in message > > news:%23Ld4EhmxHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> Harry > >> > >> I would've thought "Thank you Tom for pointing out my error" > > > > what error??? > > Tom is the one to give me the wrong link. > > > He didn't really need to give you a link, Harry. Your own demonstrates his > point. Look at the *x64.exe* at the end of it. That means for 64-bit > operating systems. It seems extremely unlikely that your AMD processor is a > 64-bit model, given past discussions here re upgrading. It is doubly certain > (that the file is not the one you're using) because you are using Windows > Millennium Edition. I have a 64-bit AMD processor - but the XP version it's > running is a 32-bit one and even I couldn't install the x64 JSE. It requires > a 64-bit operating system and XP and later come in 64-bit versions, but not > Millennium, nor - of course - will it, not ever. > > So, yes, basically, with the x64 in the filename, it is a different file to > what you have. I would further presume - given Tom's point of questioning > their recommending a version with a security flaw - assuming that version > does indeed have such - that the x64 version does not have it. Meanwhile, > either the old x86 (32-bit Intel compatible) JSE build has the flaw and > you're still using it, or it doesn't have the flaw and so what? > > I, however, am with Joan on Java. Except that my coffee machine doesn't work > anymore. > > Shane > >
Guest webster72n Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message news:eopXdSnxHHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > webster72n wrote: > > "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message > > news:OZAHfBkxHHA.404@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> webster72n wrote: > >>> For AMD based windows systems they recommend to use 1.5.0_11, TomV. > >> Who are "they"? > > > > "They" are: http://www.java.com. > > Just look under :"instructions" for download and installation. > > Thought you might summarize that, Alias. > > What do you mean by "AMD"? "Advanced Micro Devices", with reference to my motherboard. Meanwhile things are "squared away" and I am "up-to-date". Thanks for the "alert". <H>. > > Alias > > > >>> I already have that version installed and will keep it, accordingly. > >>> > >>> Harry. > >> I have an AMD processor (XP 2200, XP 3000+ and AMD2 4600) on three > >> computers and all three have the latest Java RE 6, Update 2 with no > >> problems whatsoever. Two are running XP Pro in English and the dual core > >> is running XP Home in Spanish. > >> > >> Alias > >>> > >>> "TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message > >>> news:OKGjbYjxHHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >>>> Hi, Heather, > >>>> > >>>> If you're going to stay with JRE 1.5.0, it's probably best to use > >>>> 1.5.0_12. IIRC there were a number of security vulnerabilites fixed in > >>>> this release. > >>>> > >>>> http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp > >>>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/ReleaseNotes.html > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Tom (not David Lipman ;)) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Heather wrote: > >>>>> And I will stick with version 5.....11. Does the job. Don't like the > >>>>> version 6 ones. (looking over my shoulder to see if Lipman catches my > >>>>> statements, lol). > >>>>> > >>>>> Heather > >>>>> > >>>>> "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:uqHMT0gxHHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >>>>>> I can give that a miss, I don't have Sun Java on here <g> > >>>>>> Joan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Alias wrote: > >>>>>>> Get it at http://www.java.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Alias > >>> > > > >
Guest Joan Archer Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) I always thought AMD was the processor not the motherboard. Joan webster72n wrote: >> >> What do you mean by "AMD"? > > "Advanced Micro Devices", with reference to my motherboard. >
Guest Shane Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) I believe they do make them these days, Joan (as, of course, have Intel for donkeys. I hope they appreciate them). They certainly make graphics cards, having merged/swallowed ATI. In fact AMD are making a high-end processor that integrates the graphics too, which I eagerly await. Shane Joan Archer wrote: > I always thought AMD was the processor not the motherboard. > Joan > > > webster72n wrote: >>> >>> What do you mean by "AMD"? >> >> "Advanced Micro Devices", with reference to my motherboard.
Guest Heather Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Just a minor detail......and he plans on dual booting? Bwa ha ha!! "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:OQTXyZxxHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I always thought AMD was the processor not the motherboard. > Joan > > > webster72n wrote: >>> >>> What do you mean by "AMD"? >> >> "Advanced Micro Devices", with reference to my motherboard. >> > >
Guest Shane Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) George Gee wrote: > Hi Shane > I didn't know you were into Robin Cooper! > Goes some way to explaining your sense of humour. > And why I'm always exhausted from Ping Pong! Actually I asked Parmaynu a question on behalf of someone, but he never answered. It was severely anticipated - but alas, and alack! And Aladdin. Alas and aladdin. I miss my Aladdin paraffin heater. It is alack. Possibly the childhood of breathing those fumes explains something too. Shane > George Gee > > "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:e$LzhtmxHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I thought you were about to introduce Parmaynu there George! >> >> >> Shane >> >> >> George Gee wrote: >>> Heather >>> >>> Better tread carefully here, after all Harry is a known expert >>> with Java, he does have 3386 versions of it in Add/Remove programs. >>> >>> George Gee
Guest Alias Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Joan Archer wrote: > I always thought AMD was the processor not the motherboard. > Joan Me too. It says it right on the side of the box ;-) Alias > > > webster72n wrote: >>> What do you mean by "AMD"? >> "Advanced Micro Devices", with reference to my motherboard. >> > >
Guest Shane Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) No. No, Joan. Not without my caffeine. God but it's a sad, sordid business! It still froths the milk, just won't force the water through the coffee - so now I'm frothing milk and adding a little boiling water to Gold Blend (which makes it like Camp, except not made from spit) and pouring that in. I can't take more than one a day though! It's a come down from about half a dozen! Shane Joan Archer wrote: > <lol> What have you done to it then, we can't have you going without > your caffeine <g> > Joan > > Shane wrote: >> >> I, however, am with Joan on Java. Except that my coffee machine >> doesn't work anymore. >> >> Shane
Guest Shane Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Is that the 'claw hand' thing, Harry (that Maggie Thatcher had)? Though I thought she only had it in one hand. I doesn't suppose it's pleasant in one - in both must be rough! Good luck, Harry. I hope you're feeling better than you were yesterday (regardless of how you were feeling yesterday!). Shane webster72n wrote: > Thank you for your explicit descriptions, Shane. > They show you care and that's being appreciated. > Of course I noticed ignoring the "64" along the way, but when I > installed the new version referred to by Alias, through the built-in > update feature, I received an error message and that threw me off. > Everything fell into place when I uninstalled the older version and > replaced it with the latest. Now I'm up-to-date, thanks to Tom, also. > As you might have noticed already, "they" don't have to worry about > "getting old", it's "automatic", sooner or later. If you play your > cards right, it may even be fun. > Just for informational purposes, last Wednesday I had my right hand > carpal tunnel surgery done (the left hand was done about 6 weeks ago) > and I am performing most of the tasks here left-handed. > > Harry. > > > "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uM3MQTnxHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> webster72n wrote: >>> "George Gee" <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23Ld4EhmxHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Harry >>>> >>>> I would've thought "Thank you Tom for pointing out my error" >>> >>> what error??? >>> Tom is the one to give me the wrong link. >> >> >> He didn't really need to give you a link, Harry. Your own >> demonstrates his point. Look at the *x64.exe* at the end of it. That >> means for 64-bit operating systems. It seems extremely unlikely that >> your AMD processor is a 64-bit model, given past discussions here re >> upgrading. It is doubly certain (that the file is not the one you're >> using) because you are using Windows Millennium Edition. I have a >> 64-bit AMD processor - but the XP version it's running is a 32-bit >> one and even I couldn't install the x64 JSE. It requires a 64-bit >> operating system and XP and later come in 64-bit versions, but not >> Millennium, nor - of course - will it, not ever. >> >> So, yes, basically, with the x64 in the filename, it is a different >> file to what you have. I would further presume - given Tom's point >> of questioning their recommending a version with a security flaw - >> assuming that version does indeed have such - that the x64 version >> does not have it. Meanwhile, either the old x86 (32-bit Intel >> compatible) JSE build has the flaw and you're still using it, or it >> doesn't have the flaw and so what? >> >> I, however, am with Joan on Java. Except that my coffee machine >> doesn't work anymore. >> >> Shane
Guest webster72n Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Don't know about "claw hand", but it makes your hand(s) tingle and in severe cases, like mine, almost feel numb. I am recovering nicely and should be allright in a few weeks. "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ev6YV1$xHHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Is that the 'claw hand' thing, Harry (that Maggie Thatcher had)? Though I > thought she only had it in one hand. I doesn't suppose it's pleasant in > one - in both must be rough! > > Good luck, Harry. I hope you're feeling better than you were yesterday > (regardless of how you were feeling yesterday!). > > > Shane > > webster72n wrote: > > Thank you for your explicit descriptions, Shane. > > They show you care and that's being appreciated. > > Of course I noticed ignoring the "64" along the way, but when I > > installed the new version referred to by Alias, through the built-in > > update feature, I received an error message and that threw me off. > > Everything fell into place when I uninstalled the older version and > > replaced it with the latest. Now I'm up-to-date, thanks to Tom, also. > > As you might have noticed already, "they" don't have to worry about > > "getting old", it's "automatic", sooner or later. If you play your > > cards right, it may even be fun. > > Just for informational purposes, last Wednesday I had my right hand > > carpal tunnel surgery done (the left hand was done about 6 weeks ago) > > and I am performing most of the tasks here left-handed. > > > > Harry. > > > > > > "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:uM3MQTnxHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> webster72n wrote: > >>> "George Gee" <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote in message > >>> news:%23Ld4EhmxHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >>>> Harry > >>>> > >>>> I would've thought "Thank you Tom for pointing out my error" > >>> > >>> what error??? > >>> Tom is the one to give me the wrong link. > >> > >> > >> He didn't really need to give you a link, Harry. Your own > >> demonstrates his point. Look at the *x64.exe* at the end of it. That > >> means for 64-bit operating systems. It seems extremely unlikely that > >> your AMD processor is a 64-bit model, given past discussions here re > >> upgrading. It is doubly certain (that the file is not the one you're > >> using) because you are using Windows Millennium Edition. I have a > >> 64-bit AMD processor - but the XP version it's running is a 32-bit > >> one and even I couldn't install the x64 JSE. It requires a 64-bit > >> operating system and XP and later come in 64-bit versions, but not > >> Millennium, nor - of course - will it, not ever. > >> > >> So, yes, basically, with the x64 in the filename, it is a different > >> file to what you have. I would further presume - given Tom's point > >> of questioning their recommending a version with a security flaw - > >> assuming that version does indeed have such - that the x64 version > >> does not have it. Meanwhile, either the old x86 (32-bit Intel > >> compatible) JSE build has the flaw and you're still using it, or it > >> doesn't have the flaw and so what? > >> > >> I, however, am with Joan on Java. Except that my coffee machine > >> doesn't work anymore. > >> > >> Shane > >
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) <AOL> Me, either </AOL> Since Sun does not take security seriously, I'm uninstalling their java runtimes from all of my systems. Since June 29th there have been FIVE security bulletins issued on java, 2 of them highly **Critical**: http://secunia.com/search/?search=Sun+java Sun Java System Web / Application Server XSLT Processing Vulnerability 2007-07-11 Sun Java System Access Manager "message" Debug Level Password Disclosure 2007-07-11 Sun Java JRE/JDK Processing of XSLT Stylesheets in XML Signatures Vulnerability 2007-07-11 **Sun Java Web Start JNLP File Processing Buffer Overflow 2007-07-10** **Sun Java Web Start Untrusted Application Arbitrary File Overwrite 2007-06-29** I've tried for the last 2 and a half years to get them to at least have their autoupdater remove older, vulnerable versions when a newer runtime comes out, but they *refuse* to do it. So, all Sun java will soon be buh-bye and that's one less vulnerability vector to have to deal with. How do they get away with such behavior ? If MS behaved in the same manner it would be all over the media. But since it's Sun, it's OK ? Feh. MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007] =============== *-343-* FDNY Never Forgotten =============== Joan Archer wrote: > I can give that a miss, I don't have Sun Java on here <g> > Joan > > > Alias wrote: > >>Get it at http://www.java.com >> >>Alias > > >
Guest Joan Archer Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) Hi Mow <g> glad to see I'm not on my own with regards Sun Java, I think there have only been a couple of things that wouldn't work because I didn't have it installed and they were not important enough to warrant doing it so I just go on my merry way without it <g> I do still have Microsoft VM installed even though it is no longer supported <g> Joan MowGreen [MVP] wrote: > <AOL> Me, either </AOL> > Since Sun does not take security seriously, I'm uninstalling their > java runtimes from all of my systems. > Since June 29th there have been FIVE security bulletins issued on > java, 2 of them highly **Critical**: > http://secunia.com/search/?search=Sun+java > >snip>
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Java Runtime Environment Update (2) There's no java anything here and so far, so good " There goes the Sun doo dah doo dah ... " MG Joan Archer wrote: > Hi Mow <g> glad to see I'm not on my own with regards Sun Java, I think > there have only been a couple of things that wouldn't work because I > didn't have it installed and they were not important enough to warrant > doing it so I just go on my merry way without it <g> > > I do still have Microsoft VM installed even though it is no longer > supported <g> > Joan > > > MowGreen [MVP] wrote: > >><AOL> Me, either </AOL> >>Since Sun does not take security seriously, I'm uninstalling their >>java runtimes from all of my systems. >>Since June 29th there have been FIVE security bulletins issued on >>java, 2 of them highly **Critical**: >>http://secunia.com/search/?search=Sun+java >> >>snip> > > >
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