newbie question about terminal server

[Guest DAXU@HOTMAIL.COM]

Hi,

>From windows components wizard, I see that I can add "Terminal Server"

component.

But I already has terminal service runing on the server by default and

people (limit is 2+1, isn't it?) can use remote desktop to connect to

this server.

Can someone tell me what I will get from adding this "terminal server"

component?

 

Many Thanks

Jerry

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: newbie question about terminal server

 

What you are using now is Remote Desktop for Administration, which

is limited to 2 + 1 connections, by default only available for

Administrators, and withour extra licensing requirements.

You can use this to remotely manage any type of server, i.e. a

Domain Controller, Print Server, SQL server, Exchange server, etc.

 

When you install the Terminal Services component, you turn the

server into a "proper" Terminal Server. This enables multiple

normal users to connect to the server and run their desktop

applications on the server itself. You basically turn the server

into a multiple-user desktop.

It requires additional licensing (a TS CAL for every user or

device). The number of connecting users is only limited by the

number of licenses and the hardware.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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DAXU@HOTMAIL.COM wrote on 09 jul 2007 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Hi,

>>From windows components wizard, I see that I can add "Terminal

>>Server"

> component.

> But I already has terminal service runing on the server by

> default and people (limit is 2+1, isn't it?) can use remote

> desktop to connect to this server.

> Can someone tell me what I will get from adding this "terminal

> server" component?

>

> Many Thanks

> Jerry

[Guest DAXU@HOTMAIL.COM]

Re: newbie question about terminal server

 

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

I am thinking of make this server an application server so that users

who has the access right to this machine will be able to use these

softwares.

Are there any compatiability issues with software(such as office,

spss, matlab etc)? Is it right for me to assume that if an application

can run under windows 2003/2000, then it will be able to run under

this windows terminal server (basically just a windows 2003 with

terminal service component installed)?

Many thanks

Jerry

 

On 9 Jul, 16:34, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-

this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:

> What you are using now is Remote Desktop for Administration, which

> is limited to 2 + 1 connections, by default only available for

> Administrators, and withour extra licensing requirements.

> You can use this to remotely manage any type of server, i.e. a

> Domain Controller, Print Server, SQL server, Exchange server, etc.

>

> When you install the Terminal Services component, you turn the

> server into a "proper" Terminal Server. This enables multiple

> normal users to connect to the server and run their desktop

> applications on the server itself. You basically turn the server

> into a multiple-user desktop.

> It requires additional licensing (a TS CAL for every user or

> device). The number of connecting users is only limited by the

> number of licenses and the hardware.

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> D...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote on 09 jul 2007 in

> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > Hi,

> >>From windows components wizard, I see that I can add "Terminal

> >>Server"

> > component.

> > But I already has terminal service runing on the server by

> > default and people (limit is 2+1, isn't it?) can use remote

> > desktop to connect to this server.

> > Can someone tell me what I will get from adding this "terminal

> > server" component?

>

> > Many Thanks

> > Jerry

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: newbie question about terminal server

 

Before you go ahead and install Terminal Services, make sure to do

some reading, planning and testing.

Terminal Services itself is trivial to install, but it's not

trivial to install and manage applications and printers in a TS

environment.

Note that any applications that are currently installed on the

server will not work correctly in a multi-user environment. So if

you want to install Terminal Services, you must first uninstall all

user applications, then install TS, and then install the

applications again. The server has to be in "install mode" during

the installation, in order to capture changes to the registry and

make them available to multiple users.

 

You also have to think about performance. As far as I know,

MatLab, SPSS and Office are all resource-hungry applications.

Make sure that your server has the hardware to support the number

of concurrent users that you anticipate (and then some more...)

If users produce a lot of graphics in MatLab and SPSS and they are

connecting over a WAN link, then you have to check if the network

speed and latency allow for reasonably fast screen updates.

 

No, you cannot assume that an application which runs under Windows

200x runs in a Terminal Services environment.

The challenge is the multi-user support. The application must be

Terminal-Services aware and be able to handle multiple instances of

the application running on the same server, with separate

configurations for all instances.

 

Here are some starting points:

 

How Terminal Services Works

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/2cb5c8c9-

cadc-44a9-bf39-856127f4c8271033.mspx?mfr=true

 

Checklist: Plan your Terminal Server deployment

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/2ff3d1b1-

1af2-48c8-b266-e10914a593051033.mspx

 

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

 

DAXU@HOTMAIL.COM wrote on 10 jul 2007 in

microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Hi,

> Thanks for your reply.

> I am thinking of make this server an application server so that

> users who has the access right to this machine will be able to

> use these softwares.

> Are there any compatiability issues with software(such as

> office, spss, matlab etc)? Is it right for me to assume that if

> an application can run under windows 2003/2000, then it will be

> able to run under this windows terminal server (basically just a

> windows 2003 with terminal service component installed)?

> Many thanks

> Jerry

>

> On 9 Jul, 16:34, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-

> this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:

>> What you are using now is Remote Desktop for Administration,

>> which is limited to 2 + 1 connections, by default only

>> available for Administrators, and withour extra licensing

>> requirements. You can use this to remotely manage any type of

>> server, i.e. a Domain Controller, Print Server, SQL server,

>> Exchange server, etc.

>>

>> When you install the Terminal Services component, you turn the

>> server into a "proper" Terminal Server. This enables multiple

>> normal users to connect to the server and run their desktop

>> applications on the server itself. You basically turn the

>> server into a multiple-user desktop.

>> It requires additional licensing (a TS CAL for every user or

>> device). The number of connecting users is only limited by the

>> number of licenses and the hardware.

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

>> D...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote on 09 jul 2007 in

>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>> > Hi,

>> >>From windows components wizard, I see that I can add

>> >>"Terminal Server"

>> > component.

>> > But I already has terminal service runing on the server by

>> > default and people (limit is 2+1, isn't it?) can use remote

>> > desktop to connect to this server.

>> > Can someone tell me what I will get from adding this

>> > "terminal server" component?

>>

>> > Many Thanks

>> > Jerry