PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

[Guest Brusso]

I was just wondering if you can please tell me if these programs are OK to

install and run on Windows 98 and will they work or cause any problems at

all?

 

Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool

 

What type of Firewall for Windows 98 (preferably a free one that won't add

spyware, adware, or other crap without you knowing it to your system)?

 

Firefox

 

Firefox Extensions

 

Set Your Virtual Memory On A 2nd Hard Drive

 

CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)

 

Power Defragmenter GUI

 

Contig (Works along with the Power Defragmenter GUI)

 

Desktop Cleaner (a zip file that puts a folder on your desktop that calls

itself "Tidy" and puts all unnessary icons and files in there that don't

belong on the desktop)

 

--

Thank you and have a great day!!!

 

BRUSSO!!!

[Guest glee]

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Replies inline....

"Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:21E2D4E8-CF99-46DD-91ED-43ABA5D09561@microsoft.com...

>I was just wondering if you can please tell me if these programs are OK to

> install and run on Windows 98 and will they work or cause any problems at

> all?

>

> Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool

 

That only installs on and works with Windows XP, Windows 2000, and Windows Server

2003.

 

> What type of Firewall for Windows 98 (preferably a free one that won't add

> spyware, adware, or other crap without you knowing it to your system)?

 

Ones that I know work well with Win98 are Kerio v.2.1.5:

http://download.oldversion.com/keriopf215.exe

 

and Tiny Personal Firewall 2.1.5a:

http://download.oldversion.com/tpfirewall2015a.exe

 

You might also try one of the older versions of Zone Alarm:

http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=zalarm

 

As I'm not a ZA fan, I'm not sure which version works best with Win98, but it has to

be earlier than v.6.5.

 

ZoneAlarm stopped support of Windows 98/98SE/Me with the introduction of version 6.5

 

"Note about pre-6.5 products:

Pre-6.5 products will continue to run on the Windows 98/98SE/Me operating system.

However, there are a few new and advanced protection features in ZoneAlarm products

that will not run due to technical limitations of this operating system."

 

> Firefox

 

Works fine here and at work with Win98SE. The issue to contend with is that on

older systems (those that often are still running Win98/98SE), the processor may be

slower and the amount of installed memory (RAM) may be low for Firefox's needs.

What this will cause mostly is somewhat slow loading of Firefox when you first open

it.....like, click the Firefox shortcut, hand-roll a cigarette, and it will be open

when you're done. ;-)

 

There are a couple of ways around that though. One is, if you plan to use Firefox

extensively, to load it when Windows starts and leave it open for your Windows

session. I find that Firefox still creates some issues with CPU usage if left open

and unused for long periods, only in Win9x, so I prefer to use the Firefox Preloader

on older systems, which is the second method I refer to:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffpreloader/

 

You don't need it if your system is speedy enough.....what processor and how much

RAM is installed?

 

> Firefox Extensions

 

You should not have any more trouble with them that folks may have in another

operating system. Read the details of each one before installijg to be sure it does

not state a particular OS as a system requirement, and always downlaod extensions

from a trusted source, usually the offical Mozilla Add-ons pages.

 

> Set Your Virtual Memory On A 2nd Hard Drive

 

I suggest setting the swap file partition as the first partition on the second

drive.

 

Go here and scroll down to the heading "Dedicated Swap File Partition" for a good

read on that:

http://aumha.org/a/parts.htm

 

Also have a read here:

http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm

 

> CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)

 

It is supposed to work in Win98. I do *not* recommend using all of its features.

Read carefully before you enable something, lest you remove something you wanted to

keep. I do NOT recommend using the Registry cleaner module of this or any other

utility.

 

> Power Defragmenter GUI

>

> Contig (Works along with the Power Defragmenter GUI)

 

I don't use them, but this page suggests they are not for use in Win9x:

http://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=722

 

"System Requirements: WinNT / Win2K / WinXP"

 

Perhaps someone who uses them can verify or refute.

 

> Desktop Cleaner (a zip file that puts a folder on your desktop that calls

> itself "Tidy" and puts all unnessary icons and files in there that don't

> belong on the desktop)

 

I know nothing about this app, but can't imagine why anyone would need, or want, it.

 

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

[Guest Brusso]

RE: PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98 as

well and if there will be any problems running it at all?

--

Thank you and have a great day!!!

 

BRUSSO!!!

 

 

"Brusso" wrote:

> I was just wondering if you can please tell me if these programs are OK to

> install and run on Windows 98 and will they work or cause any problems at

> all?

>

> Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool

>

> What type of Firewall for Windows 98 (preferably a free one that won't add

> spyware, adware, or other crap without you knowing it to your system)?

>

> Firefox

>

> Firefox Extensions

>

> Set Your Virtual Memory On A 2nd Hard Drive

>

> CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)

>

> Power Defragmenter GUI

>

> Contig (Works along with the Power Defragmenter GUI)

>

> Desktop Cleaner (a zip file that puts a folder on your desktop that calls

> itself "Tidy" and puts all unnessary icons and files in there that don't

> belong on the desktop)

>

> --

> Thank you and have a great day!!!

>

> BRUSSO!!!

[Guest MEB]

Re: PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

 

"Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...

| Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98 as

| well and if there will be any problems running it at all?

| --

| Thank you and have a great day!!!

|

| BRUSSO!!!

 

Yes you can install AVAST! in 98, but there are issues. Two discussions are

or were recently held in here related to icon issues and other anomilies...

myself I installed it and had several issues, so I went back to AVG. Either

will likely perform sufficiently for you, both provide the same style of

protections [though AVAST! does seem to have the ability to create recovery

files like the old DOS AV progs] just understand that there are issues

related to AVAST!.

[Guest glee]

Re: PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

As MEB mentioned, there are some "cosmetic" issues with the release of Avast 4.7,

that causes the icons to disappear on the Start Menu and in Windows Explorer and

folder windows, after selecting folders to scan in the Avast A-V window. The system

must be rebooted to get the icons back.

 

See the recent thread by PCR on the issue, in this group....Subject: "Avast! loses

program icons!", posted June 29.

 

You will also find some info on this in the Avast support forums:

http://forum.avast.com/

 

Search the forums and you will find some posts like this:

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=23914.0

although the Avast evangelists on the forums have not provided a lot of help with

this issue.

 

I have used Avast on Win98SE for several years, and think it one of the best free

anti-virus apps. This new display issue does not seem to hurt anything, but it is

disconcerting and annoying, at best.

 

Other free anti-virus apps that work in Win98 include Grisoft's AVG:

http://free.grisoft.com/doc/5390/us/frt/0

 

ActiveVirus Shield (powered by Kaspersky) may work also...I have not tried it:

http://www.activevirusshield.com

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

"Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...

> Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98 as

> well and if there will be any problems running it at all?

> --

> Thank you and have a great day!!!

>

> BRUSSO!!!

>

>

> "Brusso" wrote:

>

>> I was just wondering if you can please tell me if these programs are OK to

>> install and run on Windows 98 and will they work or cause any problems at

>> all?

>>

>> Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool

>>

>> What type of Firewall for Windows 98 (preferably a free one that won't add

>> spyware, adware, or other crap without you knowing it to your system)?

>>

>> Firefox

>>

>> Firefox Extensions

>>

>> Set Your Virtual Memory On A 2nd Hard Drive

>>

>> CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)

>>

>> Power Defragmenter GUI

>>

>> Contig (Works along with the Power Defragmenter GUI)

>>

>> Desktop Cleaner (a zip file that puts a folder on your desktop that calls

>> itself "Tidy" and puts all unnessary icons and files in there that don't

>> belong on the desktop)

>>

>> --

>> Thank you and have a great day!!!

>>

>> BRUSSO!!!

[Guest PCR]

Re: PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

Brusso wrote:

| Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows

| 98 as well and if there will be any problems running it at all?

 

Avast! Home Edition v.4.7 has a lot of good to it & some bad. Here is

the bad I've discovered so far...

 

(a) Certain icons can get lost (the little ones left of folder & file

names) or changed to the "flying windows" icon (like in the Control

Panel) after avast! displays icons in certain screens (Folder Selection

& Browse screens) & the interface is then closed. (You could leave the

interface open & not mess the icons, looks like.) Everything still works

in/out of avast!, but certain screens will look WEIRD. Or, you could

avoid those avast! screens that display a lot of icons. A reboot is the

only thing that restores the icons once lost. It is the ShellIconCache

that is getting mussed.

 

(b) Avast!'s scan reports are lacking certain information. They don't

say what folders/files were selected to be scanned or the scan

settings...

 

.......Quote a report............

*

* avast! Report

* This file is generated automatically

*

* Task 'Simple user interface' used

* Started on Sunday, June 24, 2007 01:22:13 PM

* VPS: 000751-4, 06/23/2007

*

 

Infected files: 0

Total files: 10660

Total folders: 787

Total size: 1.0 GB

.......EOQ............................

 

In that one, I think I scanned C:\, Thorough, & not its archives.

 

© When choosing to include archives, I believe avast! does open & scan

all .zip files, but it doesn't get into every extractable .exe file--

even some that WinZip CAN get into, like the MS *user8.exe's. On the

plus side, avast! does get into some .exe's that WinZip will not. Also,

it gets into .chm files-- & WinZip will not!

 

(d) The menu items that show scan results are apparently only available

directly after doing a scan. After that, you have to open the reports in

Explorer to read them.

 

Other than that, I think avast! is doing well. There IS a lot to like!

 

| --

| Thank you and have a great day!!!

|

| BRUSSO!!!

|

|

| "Brusso" wrote:

|

|> I was just wondering if you can please tell me if these programs are

|> OK to install and run on Windows 98 and will they work or cause any

|> problems at all?

|>

|> Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool

|>

|> What type of Firewall for Windows 98 (preferably a free one that

|> won't add spyware, adware, or other crap without you knowing it to

|> your system)?

|>

|> Firefox

|>

|> Firefox Extensions

|>

|> Set Your Virtual Memory On A 2nd Hard Drive

|>

|> CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)

|>

|> Power Defragmenter GUI

|>

|> Contig (Works along with the Power Defragmenter GUI)

|>

|> Desktop Cleaner (a zip file that puts a folder on your desktop that

|> calls itself "Tidy" and puts all unnessary icons and files in there

|> that don't belong on the desktop)

|>

|> --

|> Thank you and have a great day!!!

|>

|> BRUSSO!!!

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest Brusso]

Re: PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

What do you mean when you say: "I went back to AVG"? What is AVG?

--

Thank you and have a great day!!!

 

BRUSSO!!!

 

 

"MEB" wrote:

>

> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...

> | Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98 as

> | well and if there will be any problems running it at all?

> | --

> | Thank you and have a great day!!!

> |

> | BRUSSO!!!

>

> Yes you can install AVAST! in 98, but there are issues. Two discussions are

> or were recently held in here related to icon issues and other anomilies...

> myself I installed it and had several issues, so I went back to AVG. Either

> will likely perform sufficiently for you, both provide the same style of

> protections [though AVAST! does seem to have the ability to create recovery

> files like the old DOS AV progs] just understand that there are issues

> related to AVAST!.

>

>

>

>

[Guest paper]

Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

PCR... and all Avast! curios.

 

I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my experience as

it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of suppositions.

 

In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my icons were

changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was .TXT files.

When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go on the computer,

because every single .TXT icon will be the one currently assigned. (by

whatever is causing it.)

The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....

1)firefox browser icon

2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.

3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to

my computer. )

 

As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.

 

The text files show just fine. I imagine anyone else who has had their

icons

changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still function.

(I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter what icon was

being offered by the offending problem-causer.)

 

Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in

someone here figuring out what is going on.

 

(btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast will drop

in here and find that it really has become an issue and that their

reputation

may be at stake.)

 

Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2 years, so

why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??

Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3 months,

just a thought?

The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

Google is your friend...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=AVG

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:34DBBD21-CD1C-467C-86E2-4B31205EC5BD@microsoft.com...

> What do you mean when you say: "I went back to AVG"? What is AVG?

> --

> Thank you and have a great day!!!

>

> BRUSSO!!!

>

>

> "MEB" wrote:

>

>>

>> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...

>> | Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98

>> as

>> | well and if there will be any problems running it at all?

>> | --

>> | Thank you and have a great day!!!

>> |

>> | BRUSSO!!!

>>

>> Yes you can install AVAST! in 98, but there are issues. Two discussions

>> are

>> or were recently held in here related to icon issues and other

>> anomilies...

>> myself I installed it and had several issues, so I went back to AVG.

>> Either

>> will likely perform sufficiently for you, both provide the same style of

>> protections [though AVAST! does seem to have the ability to create

>> recovery

>> files like the old DOS AV progs] just understand that there are issues

>> related to AVAST!.

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest MEB]

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

 

"paper" <page@paper.com> wrote in message

news:uXYQu3HyHHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| PCR... and all Avast! curios.

|

| I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my experience as

| it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of suppositions.

|

| In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my icons were

| changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was .TXT files.

| When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go on the computer,

| because every single .TXT icon will be the one currently assigned. (by

| whatever is causing it.)

| The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....

| 1)firefox browser icon

| 2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.

| 3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to

| my computer. )

|

| As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.

|

| The text files show just fine. I imagine anyone else who has had their

| icons

| changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still function.

| (I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter what icon was

| being offered by the offending problem-causer.)

|

| Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in

| someone here figuring out what is going on.

|

| (btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast will

drop

| in here and find that it really has become an issue and that their

| reputation

| may be at stake.)

|

| Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2 years,

so

| why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??

| Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3 months,

| just a thought?

| The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.

|

|

 

Along these lines,, has anyone tried adjusting the max icon cache size in

the registry or the other icon fixes, or did I miss that in those

discussions?

[Guest PCR]

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

MEB wrote:

| "paper" <page@paper.com> wrote in message

| news:uXYQu3HyHHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

|| PCR... and all Avast! curios.

||

|| I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my experience

|| as it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of

|| suppositions.

||

|| In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my

|| icons were changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was .TXT

|| files.

|| When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go on the

|| computer, because every single .TXT icon will be the one currently

|| assigned. (by whatever is causing it.)

|| The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....

|| 1)firefox browser icon

|| 2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.

|| 3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to

|| my computer. )

||

|| As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.

||

|| The text files show just fine. I imagine anyone else who has had

|| their icons

|| changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still

|| function. (I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter

|| what icon was being offered by the offending problem-causer.)

||

|| Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in

|| someone here figuring out what is going on.

||

|| (btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast

|| will drop in here and find that it really has become an issue and

|| that their reputation

|| may be at stake.)

||

|| Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2

|| years, so why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??

|| Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3

|| months, just a thought?

|| The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.

||

||

|

| Along these lines,, has anyone tried adjusting the max icon cache

| size in the registry or the other icon fixes, or did I miss that in

| those discussions?

 

I think paper's problem is a different one. I see nothing special

happening to .txt icons. Also, nothing happens to Desktop, QuickLauch,

Taskbar, OR Tray icons, that I have seen.

 

It is NO CURE to increase the size of the ShellIconCache to 8192, both

glee & I have discovered. It is NO CURE to play with avast! settings,

either-- such as disabling skins. Those who think so probably did not

shut the main avast! interface after triggering the problem (by for

instance clicking the Folder Selection button)-- the icons won't

disappear until they do! Finally, it is NO CURE to exclude

"C:\Windows\ShellIconCache" from Avast!'s virus checking consideration.

 

Once the main avast! interface... "C:\Program Files\Alwil

Software\Avast4\ashAvast.exe"... is closed the ShellIconCache is

wrecked-- if the Folder Selection button had been pressed. So, even if

you wait until shut down before closing it, the cache needs to be

regenerated at the next boot. Therefore, the icons will draw a tad more

slowly at that boot, & it takes a 2nd boot to actually recreate the

ShellIconCache file itself. I guess that's no big deal-- but I do wish

avast! would actually fix it. I wonder whether the problem exists in the

Professional Edition too, or only in the Home Edition.

[Guest PCR]

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Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

paper wrote:

| PCR... and all Avast! curios.

|

| I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my experience

| as

| it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of

| suppositions.

|

| In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my icons

| were changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was .TXT files.

| When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go on the computer,

| because every single .TXT icon will be the one currently assigned. (by

| whatever is causing it.)

| The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....

| 1)firefox browser icon

| 2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.

| 3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to

| my computer. )

|

| As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.

 

That's a common denominator, but I think your problem is a different

one-- if only .txt files are concerned. Also, I haven't noticed a change

to Desktop, QuickLauch, Taskbar, OR Tray icons. Also the 1st layer of

START menu icons are all good. After the 1st layer, such as in the

Programs sub menu, the icons are gone-- but folder & file names are

STILL there. It is the same in Explorer, both in the right & left panes.

Also, all file selection requestors will be like that. The icons in

Control Panel ALL are present-- BUT have changed to the "flying windows"

icon. I'm sure there are additional screen that are mussed.

 

To get that...

 

(a) R-Clk Avast! in the tray, & select "Start avast! Antivirus".

That is... "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashAvast.exe"

(b) Close the little help window after the memory scan.

© Click the "Folder Selection" button, & cancel it's requestor.

(d) Close Avast!.

 

After you have done BOTH © & (d)-- the icons will be MUSSED, until a

reboot is done!

 

| The text files show just fine.

 

Even with the problem I've described, all does work fine, both in & out

of avast!, it seems.

 

| I imagine anyone else who has had

| their icons

| changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still

| function. (I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter

| what icon was being offered by the offending problem-causer.)

|

| Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in

| someone here figuring out what is going on.

|

| (btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast

| will drop in here and find that it really has become an issue and

| that their reputation

| may be at stake.)

 

At least for this while they are sticking with Win98 when others have

abandoned us. But, yea, I'd like to see it fixed. In the meantime,

there's no pressing need to use the Folder Selection button-- just R-Clk

drives & folders in Explorer to do specific ones one at a time. Only if

you need to do a SET of specific folders all at once would you need that

button. If you want to scan EVERY drive & folder, there is the Local

Disks button for that, & it doesn't lose icons.

 

| Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2

| years, so why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??

 

I think you are describing a different problem. Maybe start a new thread

on it.

 

| Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3

| months, just a thought?

 

Do you have avast! Home Edition v.4.7? That's the one!

 

| The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.

 

Nothing precisely like what you describe is happening to me.

[Guest Brusso]

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Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

When you say "flying windows icon", could you please explain what you mean by

that!

--

Thank you and have a great day!!!

 

BRUSSO!!!

 

 

"PCR" wrote:

> paper wrote:

> | PCR... and all Avast! curios.

> |

> | I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my experience

> | as

> | it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of

> | suppositions.

> |

> | In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my icons

> | were changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was .TXT files.

> | When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go on the computer,

> | because every single .TXT icon will be the one currently assigned. (by

> | whatever is causing it.)

> | The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....

> | 1)firefox browser icon

> | 2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.

> | 3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to

> | my computer. )

> |

> | As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.

>

> That's a common denominator, but I think your problem is a different

> one-- if only .txt files are concerned. Also, I haven't noticed a change

> to Desktop, QuickLauch, Taskbar, OR Tray icons. Also the 1st layer of

> START menu icons are all good. After the 1st layer, such as in the

> Programs sub menu, the icons are gone-- but folder & file names are

> STILL there. It is the same in Explorer, both in the right & left panes.

> Also, all file selection requestors will be like that. The icons in

> Control Panel ALL are present-- BUT have changed to the "flying windows"

> icon. I'm sure there are additional screen that are mussed.

>

> To get that...

>

> (a) R-Clk Avast! in the tray, & select "Start avast! Antivirus".

> That is... "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashAvast.exe"

> (b) Close the little help window after the memory scan.

> © Click the "Folder Selection" button, & cancel it's requestor.

> (d) Close Avast!.

>

> After you have done BOTH © & (d)-- the icons will be MUSSED, until a

> reboot is done!

>

> | The text files show just fine.

>

> Even with the problem I've described, all does work fine, both in & out

> of avast!, it seems.

>

> | I imagine anyone else who has had

> | their icons

> | changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still

> | function. (I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter

> | what icon was being offered by the offending problem-causer.)

> |

> | Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in

> | someone here figuring out what is going on.

> |

> | (btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast

> | will drop in here and find that it really has become an issue and

> | that their reputation

> | may be at stake.)

>

> At least for this while they are sticking with Win98 when others have

> abandoned us. But, yea, I'd like to see it fixed. In the meantime,

> there's no pressing need to use the Folder Selection button-- just R-Clk

> drives & folders in Explorer to do specific ones one at a time. Only if

> you need to do a SET of specific folders all at once would you need that

> button. If you want to scan EVERY drive & folder, there is the Local

> Disks button for that, & it doesn't lose icons.

>

> | Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2

> | years, so why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??

>

> I think you are describing a different problem. Maybe start a new thread

> on it.

>

> | Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3

> | months, just a thought?

>

> Do you have avast! Home Edition v.4.7? That's the one!

>

> | The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.

>

> Nothing precisely like what you describe is happening to me.

>

>

>

[Guest PCR]

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

Brusso wrote:

| When you say "flying windows icon", could you please explain what you

| mean by that!

 

(a) "Control Panel, Display, Screen Saver tab"

(b) Select "Flying Windows", & hit the Preview button.

 

When that avast! phenomenon is triggered, EVERY icon in Control Panel is

one of those!

 

| --

| Thank you and have a great day!!!

|

| BRUSSO!!!

|

|

| "PCR" wrote:

|

|> paper wrote:

|> | PCR... and all Avast! curios.

|> |

|> | I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my

|> | experience as

|> | it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of

|> | suppositions.

|> |

|> | In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my

|> | icons were changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was

|> | .TXT files. When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go

|> | on the computer, because every single .TXT icon will be the one

|> | currently assigned. (by whatever is causing it.)

|> | The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....

|> | 1)firefox browser icon

|> | 2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.

|> | 3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to

|> | my computer. )

|> |

|> | As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.

|>

|> That's a common denominator, but I think your problem is a different

|> one-- if only .txt files are concerned. Also, I haven't noticed a

|> change to Desktop, QuickLauch, Taskbar, OR Tray icons. Also the 1st

|> layer of START menu icons are all good. After the 1st layer, such as

|> in the Programs sub menu, the icons are gone-- but folder & file

|> names are STILL there. It is the same in Explorer, both in the right

|> & left panes. Also, all file selection requestors will be like that.

|> The icons in Control Panel ALL are present-- BUT have changed to the

|> "flying windows" icon. I'm sure there are additional screen that are

|> mussed.

|>

|> To get that...

|>

|> (a) R-Clk Avast! in the tray, & select "Start avast! Antivirus".

|> That is... "C:\Program Files\Alwil

|> Software\Avast4\ashAvast.exe" (b) Close the little help window after

|> the memory scan. © Click the "Folder Selection" button, & cancel

|> it's requestor. (d) Close Avast!.

|>

|> After you have done BOTH © & (d)-- the icons will be MUSSED, until

|> a reboot is done!

|>

|> | The text files show just fine.

|>

|> Even with the problem I've described, all does work fine, both in &

|> out of avast!, it seems.

|>

|> | I imagine anyone else who has had

|> | their icons

|> | changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still

|> | function. (I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter

|> | what icon was being offered by the offending problem-causer.)

|> |

|> | Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in

|> | someone here figuring out what is going on.

|> |

|> | (btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast

|> | will drop in here and find that it really has become an issue and

|> | that their reputation

|> | may be at stake.)

|>

|> At least for this while they are sticking with Win98 when others have

|> abandoned us. But, yea, I'd like to see it fixed. In the meantime,

|> there's no pressing need to use the Folder Selection button-- just

|> R-Clk drives & folders in Explorer to do specific ones one at a

|> time. Only if you need to do a SET of specific folders all at once

|> would you need that button. If you want to scan EVERY drive &

|> folder, there is the Local Disks button for that, & it doesn't lose

|> icons.

|>

|> | Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2

|> | years, so why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??

|>

|> I think you are describing a different problem. Maybe start a new

|> thread on it.

|>

|> | Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3

|> | months, just a thought?

|>

|> Do you have avast! Home Edition v.4.7? That's the one!

|>

|> | The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.

|>

|> Nothing precisely like what you describe is happening to me.

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest Brusso]

Re: PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

Can you please tell me if there is another Anti-Virus Program that will do a

boot time scan like the Avast does?

--

Thank you and have a great day!!!

 

BRUSSO!!!

 

 

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Google is your friend...

> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=AVG

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:34DBBD21-CD1C-467C-86E2-4B31205EC5BD@microsoft.com...

> > What do you mean when you say: "I went back to AVG"? What is AVG?

> > --

> > Thank you and have a great day!!!

> >

> > BRUSSO!!!

> >

> >

> > "MEB" wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...

> >> | Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98

> >> as

> >> | well and if there will be any problems running it at all?

> >> | --

> >> | Thank you and have a great day!!!

> >> |

> >> | BRUSSO!!!

> >>

> >> Yes you can install AVAST! in 98, but there are issues. Two discussions

> >> are

> >> or were recently held in here related to icon issues and other

> >> anomilies...

> >> myself I installed it and had several issues, so I went back to AVG.

> >> Either

> >> will likely perform sufficiently for you, both provide the same style of

> >> protections [though AVAST! does seem to have the ability to create

> >> recovery

> >> files like the old DOS AV progs] just understand that there are issues

> >> related to AVAST!.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest glee]

Re: PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

 

AVG can do a boot scan if you configure it to do so. Again, Google is your friend.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

"Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:5692EC18-DBAB-47F2-8D88-8D4C6AFEEA78@microsoft.com...

> Can you please tell me if there is another Anti-Virus Program that will do a

> boot time scan like the Avast does?

> --

> Thank you and have a great day!!!

>

> BRUSSO!!!

>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>

>> Google is your friend...

>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=AVG

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:34DBBD21-CD1C-467C-86E2-4B31205EC5BD@microsoft.com...

>> > What do you mean when you say: "I went back to AVG"? What is AVG?

>> > --

>> > Thank you and have a great day!!!

>> >

>> > BRUSSO!!!

>> >

>> >

>> > "MEB" wrote:

>> >

>> >>

>> >> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...

>> >> | Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98

>> >> as

>> >> | well and if there will be any problems running it at all?

>> >> | --

>> >> | Thank you and have a great day!!!

>> >> |

>> >> | BRUSSO!!!

>> >>

>> >> Yes you can install AVAST! in 98, but there are issues. Two discussions

>> >> are

>> >> or were recently held in here related to icon issues and other

>> >> anomilies...

>> >> myself I installed it and had several issues, so I went back to AVG.

>> >> Either

>> >> will likely perform sufficiently for you, both provide the same style of

>> >> protections [though AVAST! does seem to have the ability to create

>> >> recovery

>> >> files like the old DOS AV progs] just understand that there are issues

>> >> related to AVAST!.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>>