Guest BinaryConverted Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do? This is actually 'John' but I changed my profile name to 'BinaryConverted'. Either way, repeatedly pressing or holding the F10 key down will cause the machine to constantly beep. And it is not going into BIOS/CMOS setup. Yes, cursors when the system boot's, but many different types. The first blinks when I get this damned message which takes up most of the boot time: "****** KB OK" It blinks for more than two seconds. Next one is after the 'Windows 98 Second Edition' logo appears. Again, more than two seconds. After that, I see the wallpaper and suddenly Windows 98 appears. Have to go with you on this one :)) "Compaqs, especially of that era, were downright weird machines." The one I am using now is a completely DUMBFOWL - it is a Compaq aswell. Ok. Yes, I will try one the 'Fn' key on the keyboard before the F10. And one question: Do I need to post a new topic just to make this easier to access? -- Forums - Aren''t they wonderful? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > When you say, "constantly beep", is that when you're pressing the FD10 key > repeatedly, or holding it down? Does it quit when you stop pressing any key? > If so, that's just the "stuck-key" error. > > The cursor we're talking about is similar to a DOS cursor, just a plain > horizontal line fragment that blinks. IIRC, it might even be at the upper > right instead of upper left. Do you see any blinking cursor at all? If so, > as noted, it only appears for a short time, and you only want to try F10 > when it appears, not before or after (so as to avoid the "stuck key" error.) > > Only other way I know to force BIOS is to replace the CMOS battery, and with > Compaq, I'm not even sure that would work. Compaqs, especially of that era, > were downright weird machines. Did a lot of things very differently from the > rest of the crowd. > > Hmmm... Not sure about that machine, but seems to me that at least some > laptops, if not most, have/had a Fn or F-lock key that you have to press > before the F keys will work... I think... Not really too familiar with the > things, not like I am with desktops. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com... > > Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer > > will > > constantly beep and I then have to shut it down. > > > > What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)? > > --------- > > "Brian A." wrote: > > > >> From the manual: > >> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf > >> To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu, > >> follow these > >> steps: > >> 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu. > >> (Or turn on > >> power.) > >> 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of > >> the screen. > >> > >> IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds. > >> If you do not > >> press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } > >> Conflicts start where information lacks. > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > >> > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > >> > >> > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com... > >> > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some > >> > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into > >> > BIOS/CMOS > >> > setup... > >> > > >> > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't! > >> > > >> > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and > >> > reply. > >> > Thank you for the link. > >> > > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Maybe this will help you. > >> >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap > >> >> > >> >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work? > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Gary S. Terhune > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> >> > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com... > >> >> > Model Number? Sure! > >> >> > > >> >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT > >> >> > > >> >> > Hope it helps! > >> >> > > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know > >> >> >> what > >> >> >> model > >> >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for replacing > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> BIOS > >> >> >> battery that I came across: > >> >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy, > >> >> >> but has > >> >> >> some interesting hints. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you disconnect > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> main > >> >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge, > >> >> >> there's > >> >> >> not > >> >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up -- > >> >> >> those > >> >> >> things are NOT fun to work on. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune > >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key > >> >> >> > combination! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no > >> >> >> > instructions, > >> >> >> > no > >> >> >> > recovery disk etc. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see > >> >> >> > if my > >> >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large > >> >> >> > amounts > >> >> >> > of > >> >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into > >> >> >> > BIOS/CMOS > >> >> >> > Setup. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >| > >> >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the battery > >> >> >> >> >in > >> >> >> >> >the > >> >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new defect* > >> >> >> >> > rather > >> >> >> >> > than > >> >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication > >> >> >> >> > that the > >> >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset to > >> >> >> >> its > >> >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g > >> >> >> >> different > >> >> >> >> hard > >> >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly > >> >> >> >> assumed > >> >> >> >> to > >> >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped > >> >> >> >> working. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the > >> >> >> >> settings are > >> >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead then > >> >> >> >> it > >> >> >> >> will > >> >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the > >> >> >> >> BIOS > >> >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the > >> >> >> >> problem > >> >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having > >> >> >> >> checked > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly > >> >> >> >> you'd > >> >> >> >> want > >> >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's diagnostics > >> >> >> >> program > >> >> >> >> if > >> >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and see > >> >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors > >> >> >> >> etc). > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest Brian A. Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do? "BinaryConverted" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in message news:1BB273C9-8624-4570-851B-AB523805649E@microsoft.com... > This is actually 'John' but I changed my profile name to 'BinaryConverted'. > > Either way, repeatedly pressing or holding the F10 key down will cause the > machine to constantly beep. And it is not going into BIOS/CMOS setup. > > Yes, cursors when the system boot's, but many different types. > > The first blinks when I get this damned message which takes up most of the > boot time: > > "****** KB OK" > > It blinks for more than two seconds. Do you see the POST or the Compaq logo at boot? The POST screen shows the memory count, drive detection, kb/mouse detection and a few other things. If you see the POST, as soon as it appears press the PAUSE key immediately. Look for anything that mentions "To Enter Setup - Press (key)". Press any key to resume boot and immediately press the key noted to enter setup. If it gets by then you'll have to reboot and try again. > > Next one is after the 'Windows 98 Second Edition' logo appears. Once you get to the Windows logo it's to late and passed being able to enter the BIOS. > > Again, more than two seconds. > After that, I see the wallpaper and suddenly Windows 98 appears. > > Have to go with you on this one :)) > > "Compaqs, especially of that era, were downright weird machines." > The one I am using now is a completely DUMBFOWL - it is a Compaq aswell. > > Ok. Yes, I will try one the 'Fn' key on the keyboard before the F10. > > And one question: Do I need to post a new topic just to make this easier to > access? No. > -- > Forums - Aren''t they wonderful? Yes, they're a great resource for help and information. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > >> When you say, "constantly beep", is that when you're pressing the FD10 key >> repeatedly, or holding it down? Does it quit when you stop pressing any key? >> If so, that's just the "stuck-key" error. >> >> The cursor we're talking about is similar to a DOS cursor, just a plain >> horizontal line fragment that blinks. IIRC, it might even be at the upper >> right instead of upper left. Do you see any blinking cursor at all? If so, >> as noted, it only appears for a short time, and you only want to try F10 >> when it appears, not before or after (so as to avoid the "stuck key" error.) >> >> Only other way I know to force BIOS is to replace the CMOS battery, and with >> Compaq, I'm not even sure that would work. Compaqs, especially of that era, >> were downright weird machines. Did a lot of things very differently from the >> rest of the crowd. >> >> Hmmm... Not sure about that machine, but seems to me that at least some >> laptops, if not most, have/had a Fn or F-lock key that you have to press >> before the F keys will work... I think... Not really too familiar with the >> things, not like I am with desktops. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> <snipped>
Guest BinaryConverted Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do? I don't see a Compaq logo at boot. I am just not sure about these blinking cursors. After more than two seconds it shows another cursor again (as if I press the 'ENTER' key after it says '****** OK') -- Forums - Aren't they wonderful? "Brian A." wrote: > "BinaryConverted" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote > in message news:1BB273C9-8624-4570-851B-AB523805649E@microsoft.com... > > This is actually 'John' but I changed my profile name to 'BinaryConverted'. > > > > Either way, repeatedly pressing or holding the F10 key down will cause the > > machine to constantly beep. And it is not going into BIOS/CMOS setup. > > > > Yes, cursors when the system boot's, but many different types. > > > > The first blinks when I get this damned message which takes up most of the > > boot time: > > > > "****** KB OK" > > > > It blinks for more than two seconds. > > Do you see the POST or the Compaq logo at boot? The POST screen shows the memory > count, drive detection, kb/mouse detection and a few other things. > If you see the POST, as soon as it appears press the PAUSE key immediately. > Look for anything that mentions "To Enter Setup - Press (key)". > Press any key to resume boot and immediately press the key noted to enter setup. > If it gets by then you'll have to reboot and try again. > > > > > Next one is after the 'Windows 98 Second Edition' logo appears. > > Once you get to the Windows logo it's to late and passed being able to enter the > BIOS. > > > > > Again, more than two seconds. > > After that, I see the wallpaper and suddenly Windows 98 appears. > > > > Have to go with you on this one :)) > > > > "Compaqs, especially of that era, were downright weird machines." > > The one I am using now is a completely DUMBFOWL - it is a Compaq aswell. > > > > Ok. Yes, I will try one the 'Fn' key on the keyboard before the F10. > > > > And one question: Do I need to post a new topic just to make this easier to > > access? > > No. > > > -- > > Forums - Aren''t they wonderful? > > Yes, they're a great resource for help and information. > > > -- > > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } > Conflicts start where information lacks. > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > > > > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > > > >> When you say, "constantly beep", is that when you're pressing the FD10 key > >> repeatedly, or holding it down? Does it quit when you stop pressing any key? > >> If so, that's just the "stuck-key" error. > >> > >> The cursor we're talking about is similar to a DOS cursor, just a plain > >> horizontal line fragment that blinks. IIRC, it might even be at the upper > >> right instead of upper left. Do you see any blinking cursor at all? If so, > >> as noted, it only appears for a short time, and you only want to try F10 > >> when it appears, not before or after (so as to avoid the "stuck key" error.) > >> > >> Only other way I know to force BIOS is to replace the CMOS battery, and with > >> Compaq, I'm not even sure that would work. Compaqs, especially of that era, > >> were downright weird machines. Did a lot of things very differently from the > >> rest of the crowd. > >> > >> Hmmm... Not sure about that machine, but seems to me that at least some > >> laptops, if not most, have/had a Fn or F-lock key that you have to press > >> before the F keys will work... I think... Not really too familiar with the > >> things, not like I am with desktops. > >> > >> -- > >> Gary S. Terhune > >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> > <snipped> > >
Guest PCR Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com | "MEB spewed: | |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you |> as semi-intelligent,,, | | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy | | "Well, let's review your history here... | | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... | | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... | | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities | to understand... | | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? | | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... | | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- | | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup Diskette...?... http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest 98 Guy Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! PCR wrote: > So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup > Diskette...?... His hard drive was pooched, but he doesn't want to say that I was right, so he just let the thread die.
Guest PCR Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:46C39F2E.A3B20E67@Guy.com | PCR wrote: | |> So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup |> Diskette...?... | | His hard drive was pooched, but he doesn't want to say that I was | right, so he just let the thread die. I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't his battery or power supply that was pooched. But I'm outa here! I don't want to get between you & MEB anymore than between Angel & thanatoid! -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Angel Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! ROFL!! LOL!! Angel "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:uITxm6C4HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:46C39F2E.A3B20E67@Guy.com > | PCR wrote: > | > |> So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup > |> Diskette...?... > | > | His hard drive was pooched, but he doesn't want to say that I was > | right, so he just let the thread die. > > I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't his battery or power supply that was > pooched. But I'm outa here! I don't want to get between you & MEB > anymore than between Angel & thanatoid! > > > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, > There may be humor in this post, and, > Naturally, you will not sue, > Should things get worse after this, > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net > >
Guest BinaryConverted Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! Ooops... Yes, a laptop. -- A story of success always has a beginning. "PCR" wrote: > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com > | "MEB spewed: > | > |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you > |> as semi-intelligent,,, > | > | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy > | > | "Well, let's review your history here... > | > | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was > | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't > | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... > | > | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we > | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and > | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of > | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... > | > | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in > | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and > | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities > | to understand... > | > | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? > | > | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for > | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... > | > | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to > | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply > | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- > | > | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? > > Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup > Diskette...?... > > http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control > Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the > diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. > > At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? > > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, > There may be humor in this post, and, > Naturally, you will not sue, > Should things get worse after this, > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net > > >
Guest BinaryConverted Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! You really need a kick in the ass 98 Guy. -- A story of success always has a beginning. "98 Guy" wrote: > PCR wrote: > > > So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup > > Diskette...?... > > His hard drive was pooched, but he doesn't want to say that I was > right, so he just let the thread die. >
Guest BinaryConverted Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do? Thank's MEB. I will try to install the drivers as soon as possible. -- A story of success always has a beginning. "MEB" wrote: > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=96537&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 - > Download drivers and software > > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/ProductList.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 - > Armada general - locate files > > > Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to. > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com... > | Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer > will > | constantly beep and I then have to shut it down. > | > | What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)? > | --------- > | "Brian A." wrote: > | > | > From the manual: > | > > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf > | > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu, > follow these > | > steps: > | > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu. > (Or turn on > | > power.) > | > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of > the screen. > | > > | > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds. > If you do not > | > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again. > | > > | > > | > -- > | > > | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } > | > Conflicts start where information lacks. > | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > | > > | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > | > > | > > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com... > | > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some > | > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into > BIOS/CMOS > | > > setup... > | > > > | > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't! > | > > > | > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and > reply. > | > > Thank you for the link. > | > > > | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > | > > > | > >> Maybe this will help you. > | > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap > | > >> > | > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work? > | > >> > | > >> -- > | > >> Gary S. Terhune > | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | > >> http://www.grystmill.com > | > >> > | > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com... > | > >> > Model Number? Sure! > | > >> > > | > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT > | > >> > > | > >> > Hope it helps! > | > >> > > | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > | > >> > > | > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know > what > | > >> >> model > | > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for > replacing the > | > >> >> BIOS > | > >> >> battery that I came across: > | > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy, > but has > | > >> >> some interesting hints. > | > >> >> > | > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you > disconnect the > | > >> >> main > | > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge, > there's > | > >> >> not > | > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up -- > those > | > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on. > | > >> >> > | > >> >> -- > | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune > | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > | > >> >> > | > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com... > | > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key > | > >> >> > combination! > | > >> >> > > | > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no > instructions, > | > >> >> > no > | > >> >> > recovery disk etc. > | > >> >> > > | > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see > if my > | > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large > amounts > | > >> >> > of > | > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into > | > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS > | > >> >> > Setup. > | > >> >> > > | > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000. > | > >> >> > > | > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote: > | > >> >> > > | > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote: > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> >| > | > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the > battery in > | > >> >> >> >the > | > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all. > | > >> >> >> > > | > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new > defect* > | > >> >> >> > rather > | > >> >> >> > than > | > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication > that the > | > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked. > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset > to its > | > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g > different > | > >> >> >> hard > | > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly > assumed > | > >> >> >> to > | > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped > working. > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the > settings are > | > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what > the > | > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead > then it > | > >> >> >> will > | > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the > BIOS > | > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the > problem > | > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced. > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having > checked > | > >> >> >> the > | > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly > you'd > | > >> >> >> want > | > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's > diagnostics > | > >> >> >> program > | > >> >> >> if > | > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and > see > | > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors > etc). > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> > | > >> >> > | > >> >> > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> > | > > | > > > >
Guest 98 Guy Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! BinaryConverted wrote: > You really need a kick in the ass 98 Guy. You need a kick in the ass for being a top-poster.
Guest BinaryConverted Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. That one resolved itself. But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. Is there any way at all? -- A story of success always has a beginning. "PCR" wrote: > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com > | "MEB spewed: > | > |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you > |> as semi-intelligent,,, > | > | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy > | > | "Well, let's review your history here... > | > | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was > | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't > | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... > | > | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we > | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and > | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of > | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... > | > | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in > | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and > | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities > | to understand... > | > | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? > | > | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for > | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... > | > | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to > | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply > | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- > | > | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? > > Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup > Diskette...?... > > http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control > Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the > diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. > > At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? > > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, > There may be humor in this post, and, > Naturally, you will not sue, > Should things get worse after this, > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you want to? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "BinaryConverted" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. > > That one resolved itself. > > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. > Is there any way at all? > -- > A story of success always has a beginning. > > > "PCR" wrote: > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com >> | "MEB spewed: >> | >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, >> | >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy >> | >> | "Well, let's review your history here... >> | >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... >> | >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... >> | >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities >> | to understand... >> | >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? >> | >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... >> | >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply >> | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- >> | >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? >> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup >> Diskette...?... >> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. >> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? >> >> -- >> Thanks or Good Luck, >> There may be humor in this post, and, >> Naturally, you will not sue, >> Should things get worse after this, >> PCR >> pcrrcp@netzero.net >> >> >>
Guest MEB Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do? Your welcome, let us know how it turns out.. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________ "BinaryConverted" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in message news:0CF21860-1380-4F56-B7E1-3B0E24D5AC14@microsoft.com... | Thank's MEB. | | I will try to install the drivers as soon as possible. | -- | A story of success always has a beginning. | | | "MEB" wrote: | | > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=96537&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 - | > Download drivers and software | > | > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/ProductList.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 - | > Armada general - locate files | > | > | > Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to. | > | > -- | > MEB | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > ________ | > | > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com... | > | Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer | > will | > | constantly beep and I then have to shut it down. | > | | > | What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)? | > | --------- | > | "Brian A." wrote: | > | | > | > From the manual: | > | > | > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf | > | > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu, | > follow these | > | > steps: | > | > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu. | > (Or turn on | > | > power.) | > | > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of | > the screen. | > | > | > | > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds. | > If you do not | > | > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again. | > | > | > | > | > | > -- | > | > | > | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } | > | > Conflicts start where information lacks. | > | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ | > | > | > | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | > | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 | > | > | > | > | > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > | > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com... | > | > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some | > | > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into | > BIOS/CMOS | > | > > setup... | > | > > | > | > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't! | > | > > | > | > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and | > reply. | > | > > Thank you for the link. | > | > > | > | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | > | > > | > | > >> Maybe this will help you. | > | > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap | > | > >> | > | > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work? | > | > >> | > | > >> -- | > | > >> Gary S. Terhune | > | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User | > | > >> http://www.grystmill.com | > | > >> | > | > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > | > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com... | > | > >> > Model Number? Sure! | > | > >> > | > | > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT | > | > >> > | > | > >> > Hope it helps! | > | > >> > | > | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | > | > >> > | > | > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know | > what | > | > >> >> model | > | > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for | > replacing the | > | > >> >> BIOS | > | > >> >> battery that I came across: | > | > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy, | > but has | > | > >> >> some interesting hints. | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you | > disconnect the | > | > >> >> main | > | > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge, | > there's | > | > >> >> not | > | > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up -- | > those | > | > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on. | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> -- | > | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune | > | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User | > | > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > | > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com... | > | > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key | > | > >> >> > combination! | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no | > instructions, | > | > >> >> > no | > | > >> >> > recovery disk etc. | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see | > if my | > | > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large | > amounts | > | > >> >> > of | > | > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into | > | > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS | > | > >> >> > Setup. | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000. | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote: | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote: | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> >> >| | > | > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the | > battery in | > | > >> >> >> >the | > | > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all. | > | > >> >> >> > | > | > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new | > defect* | > | > >> >> >> > rather | > | > >> >> >> > than | > | > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication | > that the | > | > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked. | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset | > to its | > | > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g | > different | > | > >> >> >> hard | > | > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly | > assumed | > | > >> >> >> to | > | > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped | > working. | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the | > settings are | > | > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what | > the | > | > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead | > then it | > | > >> >> >> will | > | > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the | > BIOS | > | > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the | > problem | > | > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced. | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having | > checked | > | > >> >> >> the | > | > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly | > you'd | > | > >> >> >> want | > | > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's | > diagnostics | > | > >> >> >> program | > | > >> >> >> if | > | > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and | > see | > | > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors | > etc). | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
Guest PCR Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message news:O4K7RHG4HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl | ROFL!! LOL!! Ah, ha, ha-- BUT, careful! Don't put a dent into those wings! | Angel | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:uITxm6C4HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... |> "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:46C39F2E.A3B20E67@Guy.com |> | PCR wrote: |> | |> |> So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup |> |> Diskette...?... |> | |> | His hard drive was pooched, but he doesn't want to say that I was |> | right, so he just let the thread die. |> |> I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't his battery or power supply that was |> pooched. But I'm outa here! I don't want to get between you & MEB |> anymore than between Angel & thanatoid! |> |> |> -- |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> Should things get worse after this, |> PCR |> pcrrcp@netzero.net -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest PCR Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! "BinaryConverted" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com | Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. | | That one resolved itself. OK. Good enough. | But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. | Is there any way at all? There is no normal way for you to get to BIOS once in Windows. Terhune might know an abnormal one. Here is what I normally post for getting into BIOS... You must press a key at boot to enter BIOS Setup. If you don't know the key to press, try "Esc" at the manufacturer's logo. Then, the key to press to enter BIOS setup will show up. Quickly press it. For my Compaq Presario 7470, it is F10. In BIOS, use TAB & the arrow keys to navigate, & ENTER to select. (Well, there may be a legend showing your keys are different.) While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot down the settings. If they are not set to defaults, and somehow, someday, they are cleared, all these settings may need to be input again. ......Quote of Candlin about............... ......keystrokes to get to BIOS Setup.... Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common. Other keystrokes which might work are: AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard, and power up again, as some older systems will default to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found. .......End of Quote............................ And here are WEB sites I've collected here at this NG, but haven't recently clicked... http://sysopt.earthweb.com/biosbmc.html BIOS beeps http://www.amptron.com/html/bios.beepcodes.html http://www.comptechdoc.org/hardware/beepcodes/1.htm http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm http://www.tcwo.com/support/new/beeps.htm BIOS beeps http://www.bioscentral.com/ BIOS Central http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,2299,s%3D1005%26a%3D1614,00.asp BIOS Info http://www.itcp.net/~awsh/ BIOS & hardware Optimization Guide ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/ctbios15.zip ctbios Identify BIOS http://www.cgsecurity.org/ BIOS manipulator, Password recoverer | -- | A story of success always has a beginning. | | | "PCR" wrote: | |> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message |> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com |> | "MEB spewed: |> | |> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you |> |> as semi-intelligent,,, |> | |> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy |> | |> | "Well, let's review your history here... |> | |> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I |> | was the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you |> | didn't apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... |> | |> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, |> | we all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to |> | understand and consider for your presentation... glad you picked |> | up on SOME of that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... |> | |> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in |> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and |> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities |> | to understand... |> | |> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? |> | |> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for |> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... |> | |> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to |> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, |> | apply them." - MBE |> | ----------------------------------------------------- |> | |> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? |> |> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup |> Diskette...?... |> |> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from |> "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect |> the diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. |> |> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? |> |> -- |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> Should things get worse after this, |> PCR |> pcrrcp@netzero.net -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest PCR Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! "BinaryConverted" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in message news:3F4B91F7-FD43-42AA-B8AC-4EE98556B8BD@microsoft.com | Ooops... | | Yes, a laptop. I see. Does it have a floppy drive? If you can boot a floppy, it might prove you are not having a power problem. I've posted elsewhere on how to get into BIOS. On my Compaq 7470, there is a square, blinking cursor that jumps from the top left to the top right corners of the screen-- that is when to hit F10 to get into BIOS. But on laptops it may be altogether different! Really, I think Brian A.'s instructions should have gotten you there! | -- | A story of success always has a beginning. | | | "PCR" wrote: | |> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message |> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com |> | "MEB spewed: |> | |> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you |> |> as semi-intelligent,,, |> | |> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy |> | |> | "Well, let's review your history here... |> | |> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I |> | was the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you |> | didn't apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... |> | |> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, |> | we all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to |> | understand and consider for your presentation... glad you picked |> | up on SOME of that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... |> | |> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in |> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and |> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities |> | to understand... |> | |> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? |> | |> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for |> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... |> | |> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to |> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, |> | apply them." - MBE |> | ----------------------------------------------------- |> | |> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? |> |> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup |> Diskette...?... |> |> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from |> "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect |> the diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. |> |> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? |> |> -- |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> Should things get worse after this, |> PCR |> pcrrcp@netzero.net -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest John Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! Well, it doesn't look like you have being top-poster. Such a 'computer techinician' should know how to diagnose really REALLY old computers, even with Windows Vista already released. So I can tell you what - Next time you post in another topic, wax lyrical about the title of the post or the skill of the user before your big mouth opens. Go back to your graveyard. -- A story of success always has a beginning. "98 Guy" wrote: > BinaryConverted wrote: > > > You really need a kick in the ass 98 Guy. > > You need a kick in the ass for being a top-poster. >
Guest John Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS setup program. And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup. -- A story of success always has a beginning. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you want > to? > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "BinaryConverted" > <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in > message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... > > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. > > > > That one resolved itself. > > > > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. > > Is there any way at all? > > -- > > A story of success always has a beginning. > > > > > > "PCR" wrote: > > > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com > >> | "MEB spewed: > >> | > >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you > >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, > >> | > >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy > >> | > >> | "Well, let's review your history here... > >> | > >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was > >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't > >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... > >> | > >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we > >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and > >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of > >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... > >> | > >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in > >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and > >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities > >> | to understand... > >> | > >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? > >> | > >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for > >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... > >> | > >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to > >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply > >> | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- > >> | > >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? > >> > >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup > >> Diskette...?... > >> > >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control > >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the > >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. > >> > >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? > >> > >> -- > >> Thanks or Good Luck, > >> There may be humor in this post, and, > >> Naturally, you will not sue, > >> Should things get worse after this, > >> PCR > >> pcrrcp@netzero.net > >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next? Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an old man with a brain like Swiss cheese.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com... >I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS >setup > program. > > And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup. > -- > A story of success always has a beginning. > > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > >> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you >> want >> to? >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "BinaryConverted" >> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in >> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... >> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. >> > >> > That one resolved itself. >> > >> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. >> > Is there any way at all? >> > -- >> > A story of success always has a beginning. >> > >> > >> > "PCR" wrote: >> > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com >> >> | "MEB spewed: >> >> | >> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you >> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, >> >> | >> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy >> >> | >> >> | "Well, let's review your history here... >> >> | >> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was >> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't >> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... >> >> | >> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, >> >> we >> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand >> >> and >> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of >> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... >> >> | >> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in >> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and >> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities >> >> | to understand... >> >> | >> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? >> >> | >> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for >> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... >> >> | >> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to >> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, >> >> apply >> >> | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- >> >> | >> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? >> >> >> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup >> >> Diskette...?... >> >> >> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control >> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the >> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. >> >> >> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Thanks or Good Luck, >> >> There may be humor in this post, and, >> >> Naturally, you will not sue, >> >> Should things get worse after this, >> >> PCR >> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest Brian A. Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do? "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com... > Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer will > constantly beep and I then have to shut it down. > > What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)? > --------- > "Brian A." wrote: > >> From the manual: >> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf >> To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu, follow >> these >> steps: >> 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu. (Or turn >> on >> power.) >> 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of the >> screen. >> >> IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds. If you do >> not >> press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again. <snipped> The cursor they mention appears in the Upper Right-hand Corner. Do you see that cursor or only ones on the left? From reading the manual, it's mentioned that: <quote> The Compaq Utilities menu will appear immediately after the computer has been turned on and the Power-On Self-Test (POST) has been completed. </quote> Have you tried a continual tapping of F10 from the moment you power up? Also the manual states: <quote> You can also view most of the same information in Compaq Diagnostics for Windows in the Control Panel. </quote> If they are not available in CP the only way I find to enter "Setup" aka BIOS is with F10. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
Guest Brian A. Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next? > > Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's only used > on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with you recently, or was > that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the make/model? Have we been thorough > all this already? (Have pity on an old man with a brain like Swiss cheese.) > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in message > news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com... >>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS setup >> program. >> >> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup. >> -- >> A story of success always has a beginning. >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: >> >>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you want >>> to? >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://www.grystmill.com >>> >>> "BinaryConverted" >>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in >>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... >>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. >>> > >>> > That one resolved itself. >>> > >>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. >>> > Is there any way at all? >>> > -- >>> > A story of success always has a beginning. >>> > >>> > >>> > "PCR" wrote: >>> > >>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com >>> >> | "MEB spewed: >>> >> | >>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you >>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, >>> >> | >>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy >>> >> | >>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here... >>> >> | >>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was >>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't >>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... >>> >> | >>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we >>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and >>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of >>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... >>> >> | >>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in >>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and >>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities >>> >> | to understand... >>> >> | >>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? >>> >> | >>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for >>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... >>> >> | >>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to >>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply >>> >> | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- >>> >> | >>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? >>> >> >>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup >>> >> Diskette...?... >>> >> >>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control >>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the >>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. >>> >> >>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Thanks or Good Luck, >>> >> There may be humor in this post, and, >>> >> Naturally, you will not sue, >>> >> Should things get worse after this, >>> >> PCR >>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the mobo battery? Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder if the manual mentions it... -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop: > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf > > From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I > may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned. > > -- > > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } > Conflicts start where information lacks. > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next? >> >> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's >> only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with >> you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the >> make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an old >> man with a brain like Swiss cheese.) >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote >> in message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com... >>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS >>>setup >>> program. >>> >>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup. >>> -- >>> A story of success always has a beginning. >>> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: >>> >>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you >>>> want >>>> to? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://www.grystmill.com >>>> >>>> "BinaryConverted" >>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in >>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... >>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. >>>> > >>>> > That one resolved itself. >>>> > >>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. >>>> > Is there any way at all? >>>> > -- >>>> > A story of success always has a beginning. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > "PCR" wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com >>>> >> | "MEB spewed: >>>> >> | >>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you >>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, >>>> >> | >>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy >>>> >> | >>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here... >>>> >> | >>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I >>>> >> was >>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't >>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... >>>> >> | >>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, >>>> >> we >>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand >>>> >> and >>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of >>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... >>>> >> | >>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but >>>> >> in >>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and >>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your >>>> >> abilities >>>> >> | to understand... >>>> >> | >>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? >>>> >> | >>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for >>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... >>>> >> | >>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need >>>> >> to >>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, >>>> >> apply >>>> >> | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> | >>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? >>>> >> >>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup >>>> >> Diskette...?... >>>> >> >>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from >>>> >> "Control >>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the >>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. >>>> >> >>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck, >>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and, >>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue, >>>> >> Should things get worse after this, >>>> >> PCR >>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >
Guest MEB Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the mobo | battery? Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder if | the manual mentions it... | | -- | Gary S. Terhune | MS-MVP Shell/User | http://www.grystmill.com Batteries? Yep first response. Apparently too difficult [CMOS/BIOS]. And the main battery is dead... From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> References: <FA0DFC70-F25E-4665-A5C9-319EEF1A5B5E@microsoft.com> Message-ID: <u#gdvR4xHHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________ | | "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message | news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... | > I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop: | > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf | > | > From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I | > may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned. | > | > -- | > | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } | > Conflicts start where information lacks. | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ | > | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message | > news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | >> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next? | >> | >> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's | >> only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with | >> you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the | >> make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an old | >> man with a brain like Swiss cheese.) | >> | >> -- | >> Gary S. Terhune | >> MS-MVP Shell/User | >> http://www.grystmill.com | >> | >> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote | >> in message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com... | >>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS | >>>setup | >>> program. | >>> | >>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup. | >>> -- | >>> A story of success always has a beginning. | >>> | >>> | >>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | >>> | >>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you | >>>> want | >>>> to? | >>>> | >>>> -- | >>>> Gary S. Terhune | >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User | >>>> http://www.grystmill.com | >>>> | >>>> "BinaryConverted" | >>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in | >>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... | >>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. | >>>> > | >>>> > That one resolved itself. | >>>> > | >>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. | >>>> > Is there any way at all? | >>>> > -- | >>>> > A story of success always has a beginning. | >>>> > | >>>> > | >>>> > "PCR" wrote: | >>>> > | >>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | >>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com | >>>> >> | "MEB spewed: | >>>> >> | | >>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you | >>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, | >>>> >> | | >>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy | >>>> >> | | >>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here... | >>>> >> | | >>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I | >>>> >> was | >>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't | >>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... | >>>> >> | | >>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, | >>>> >> we | >>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand | >>>> >> and | >>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of | >>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... | >>>> >> | | >>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but | >>>> >> in | >>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and | >>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your | >>>> >> abilities | >>>> >> | to understand... | >>>> >> | | >>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? | >>>> >> | | >>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for | >>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... | >>>> >> | | >>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need | >>>> >> to | >>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, | >>>> >> apply | >>>> >> | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- | >>>> >> | | >>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? | >>>> >> | >>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup | >>>> >> Diskette...?... | >>>> >> | >>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from | >>>> >> "Control | >>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the | >>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. | >>>> >> | >>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? | >>>> >> | >>>> >> -- | >>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck, | >>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and, | >>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue, | >>>> >> Should things get worse after this, | >>>> >> PCR | >>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net | >>>> >> | >>>> >> | >>>> >> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >> | >> | > | |
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! Nope, no mention, and no schematics... Well, F10 ought to do it, and repeatedly tapping the key as soon as the machine is turned on is the way to do it (as you suggested elsewhere. Since mo mention is made of it, I presume there's nothing like an F-Lock key (may they burn in hell for that one!) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the mobo > battery? Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder if > the manual mentions it... > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message > news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop: >> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf >> >> From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I >> may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned. >> >> -- >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } >> Conflicts start where information lacks. >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/ >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next? >>> >>> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's >>> only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with >>> you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the >>> make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an old >>> man with a brain like Swiss cheese.) >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://www.grystmill.com >>> >>> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote >>> in message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com... >>>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS >>>>setup >>>> program. >>>> >>>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup. >>>> -- >>>> A story of success always has a beginning. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you >>>>> want >>>>> to? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>> http://www.grystmill.com >>>>> >>>>> "BinaryConverted" >>>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in >>>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... >>>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. >>>>> > >>>>> > That one resolved itself. >>>>> > >>>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. >>>>> > Is there any way at all? >>>>> > -- >>>>> > A story of success always has a beginning. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > "PCR" wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com >>>>> >> | "MEB spewed: >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you >>>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I >>>>> >> was >>>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't >>>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this >>>>> >> group, we >>>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand >>>>> >> and >>>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of >>>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but >>>>> >> in >>>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and >>>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your >>>>> >> abilities >>>>> >> | to understand... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for >>>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, >>>>> >> apply >>>>> >> | them." - >>>>> >> MBE ----------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a >>>>> >> Startup >>>>> >> Diskette...?... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from >>>>> >> "Control >>>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the >>>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck, >>>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and, >>>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue, >>>>> >> Should things get worse after this, >>>>> >> PCR >>>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Recommended Posts